Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-08-31 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof

* Hadrien Lacour  [2021-08-31 15:43]:

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 03:49:43PM +0200, Maarten van Gompel wrote:


dwm -> sway (granted, not the same thing)
svkbd -> wvkbd  (see https://github.com/jjsullivan5196/wvkbd/pull/2)
st -> foot
dmenu -> bemenu



If only there was an equivalent to lemonbar and bspwm+sxhkd (not possible from
what I understand; unless the compositor launches the binary, maybe?).

https://github.com/majestrate/wterm looks like a better concept but foot is
maintained and doesn't bundle wld, at least.


There is also

https://github.com/deadlyshoes/st-wl

Which has a wl.c, similar to the x.c in st and is thus easy to rebase on 
the current st master.


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Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-08-31 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 03:49:43PM +0200, Maarten van Gompel wrote:
> Hi Nick et al,
>
> With Sxmo we're currently also moving towards wayland (we'll have to
> reinvent what the X in our name means then).  We found that, especially
> on the Pinephone, the performance under Wayland is simply superior to
> that on X11. We settled on sway to replace dwm, as dwl still lacks the
> maturity we need and sway has that going for it. I agree it comes with
> maybe a few too many bells & whistles as we'd like. Though of course, by
> definition a wayland compositor has a considerably higher complexity
> than an X11 window manager anyway.
>
> We will also keep supporting X and the suckless stack, but
> Wayland will become the default in the very near future for us.
> Unfortunately this means we had to look for comparable alternatives for
> the suckless software stack we've grown attached to. But fortunately
> there are people taking up wayland-focused initiatives with a similar
> philosophy. Thus far we have:
>
> dwm -> sway (granted, not the same thing)
> svkbd -> wvkbd  (see https://github.com/jjsullivan5196/wvkbd/pull/2)
> st -> foot
> dmenu -> bemenu
>

If only there was an equivalent to lemonbar and bspwm+sxhkd (not possible from
what I understand; unless the compositor launches the binary, maybe?).

https://github.com/majestrate/wterm looks like a better concept but foot is
maintained and doesn't bundle wld, at least.



Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-08-31 Thread Maarten van Gompel
Hi Nick et al,

With Sxmo we're currently also moving towards wayland (we'll have to
reinvent what the X in our name means then).  We found that, especially
on the Pinephone, the performance under Wayland is simply superior to
that on X11. We settled on sway to replace dwm, as dwl still lacks the
maturity we need and sway has that going for it. I agree it comes with
maybe a few too many bells & whistles as we'd like. Though of course, by
definition a wayland compositor has a considerably higher complexity
than an X11 window manager anyway.

We will also keep supporting X and the suckless stack, but
Wayland will become the default in the very near future for us.
Unfortunately this means we had to look for comparable alternatives for
the suckless software stack we've grown attached to. But fortunately
there are people taking up wayland-focused initiatives with a similar
philosophy. Thus far we have:

dwm -> sway (granted, not the same thing)
svkbd -> wvkbd  (see https://github.com/jjsullivan5196/wvkbd/pull/2)
st -> foot
dmenu -> bemenu

Regards,

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Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-08-31 Thread Страхиња Радић
On 21/08/31 02:28, Nick wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm thinking it would be fun to play around with Wayland, so was 
> looking at different compositors (which do window management plus 
> other stuff). Has anyone else on the list taken Wayland for a spin 
> and had any experience with them?
> 
> From a search around the 3 that look interesting to me, a dwm user 
> for many years, are:
> - velox - written by Michael Forney, described as "inspired by dwm 
>   and xmonad"
> - sway - i3 for Wayland, undoubtedly mature, undoubtedly more 
>   features than I'd prefer
> - dwl - "dwm for Wayland", looks nicely dwm-ish, though no built-in 
>   status bar so I guess I'd have to find some external software to 
>   provide that.
> 
> Any thoughts, experiences, recommendations?
> 
> Nick
> 

https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277



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[dev] Wayland compositors

2021-08-31 Thread Nick
Hi all,

I'm thinking it would be fun to play around with Wayland, so was 
looking at different compositors (which do window management plus 
other stuff). Has anyone else on the list taken Wayland for a spin 
and had any experience with them?

>From a search around the 3 that look interesting to me, a dwm user 
for many years, are:
- velox - written by Michael Forney, described as "inspired by dwm 
  and xmonad"
- sway - i3 for Wayland, undoubtedly mature, undoubtedly more 
  features than I'd prefer
- dwl - "dwm for Wayland", looks nicely dwm-ish, though no built-in 
  status bar so I guess I'd have to find some external software to 
  provide that.

Any thoughts, experiences, recommendations?

Nick