Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-20 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
2010/3/19 Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net:
 Hi.
 I got to understand the differences and limitations.
 personal certificate signed by CA with SHA256 is OK in current firefox.
 the CertificateVerify step of SSL handshaking procedure does not support
 SHA256 in current firefox.
 right?

Yes, that's right.

Does OpenSSL support TLS 1.2 now?  What TLS 1.2 server you are using?
Microsoft IIS?

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010/03/18 19:55  PST, Mountie Lee wrote:
 Hi. all. I'm Mountie Lee of PayGate, Korea.

Welcome.

 in Korea, National PKI is becoming big issue maker. one of good
 considerations is storing National Certificate to Browser KeyStore.

Are you talking about a root CA certificate?
Or a user's own personal certificate?
or both? or ??

 also KISA has planned to upgrade certificate specification using SHA256 
 hash algorithm in next year. but current firefox version does not seem
 to support SHA256 certificate.

I believe that it does.  Why do you think that it does not?


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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010/03/18 20:09 PST, Gen Kanai wrote:
 KISA = Korea Internet Security Agency (a Korean government body that
 manages infosec policy.)

Yeah, the NSS team has had a fair amount of interaction with KISA in the
past, such as when we integrated their implementations of SEED and the TLS
SEED cipher suites.

It looks like Mountie has a good command of English.  That will help a lot.
Language has been a barrier in the past to numerous South Korean efforts to
promote their ciphers and their PKI designs and standards.  I welcome the
participation of those who can and wish to bridge that gap.

Regards,
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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Gen Kanai


On 3/19/10 3:37 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote:
 On 2010/03/18 19:55  PST, Mountie Lee wrote:
   
 Hi. all. I'm Mountie Lee of PayGate, Korea.
 
 Welcome.

   
 in Korea, National PKI is becoming big issue maker. one of good
 considerations is storing National Certificate to Browser KeyStore.
 
 Are you talking about a root CA certificate?
 Or a user's own personal certificate?
 or both? or ??

   
 also KISA has planned to upgrade certificate specification using SHA256 
 hash algorithm in next year. but current firefox version does not seem
 to support SHA256 certificate.
 
 I believe that it does.  Why do you think that it does not?
   
Could we be bumping up against that content handler bug for pkcs client
certs?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542441

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Freitag 19 März 2010 schrieb Mountie Lee:
 May I ask Firefox has plan to support SHA256 in near future or
 URL link for discussion thread?

I have set up a test site with sha256/sha512 certificates and they work pretty 
well within all browsers I've tested including firefox. See here:
http://hboeck.de/archives/730-SSL-Certificates-with-SHA256-signature.html

And here:
https://sha2.hboeck.de/
https://sha512.hboeck.de/


The question is: What do you mean with support SHA256? SSL uses hash 
algorithms at various places, but certificates signed with sha256 + rsa are 
well supported by ff and nss.

But for example it's from my knowledge not posssible to get a sha256-
fingerprint of a certificate in firefox.

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi.
sha256 certificate means
client certificate using sha256 for ssl client authentication.

regards.
mountie.

2010/3/20 Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de

 Am Freitag 19 März 2010 schrieb Mountie Lee:
  May I ask Firefox has plan to support SHA256 in near future or
  URL link for discussion thread?

 I have set up a test site with sha256/sha512 certificates and they work
 pretty
 well within all browsers I've tested including firefox. See here:
 http://hboeck.de/archives/730-SSL-Certificates-with-SHA256-signature.html

 And here:
 https://sha2.hboeck.de/
 https://sha512.hboeck.de/


 The question is: What do you mean with support SHA256? SSL uses hash
 algorithms at various places, but certificates signed with sha256 + rsa are
 well supported by ff and nss.

 But for example it's from my knowledge not posssible to get a sha256-
 fingerprint of a certificate in firefox.

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Mountie Lee
hi.
I read the thread #542441.
that is about mime type handling in firefox.
and has no relation with my question.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Gen Kanai gka...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 3/19/10 3:37 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote:
  On 2010/03/18 19:55  PST, Mountie Lee wrote:
 
  Hi. all. I'm Mountie Lee of PayGate, Korea.
 
  Welcome.
 
 
  in Korea, National PKI is becoming big issue maker. one of good
  considerations is storing National Certificate to Browser KeyStore.
 
  Are you talking about a root CA certificate?
  Or a user's own personal certificate?
  or both? or ??
 
 
  also KISA has planned to upgrade certificate specification using SHA256
  hash algorithm in next year. but current firefox version does not seem
  to support SHA256 certificate.
 
  I believe that it does.  Why do you think that it does not?
 
 Could we be bumping up against that content handler bug for pkcs client
 certs?

 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542441

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
2010/3/19 Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net:
 Hi.
 sha256 certificate means
 client certificate using sha256 for ssl client authentication.

If you mean the signature in the TLS/SSL CertificateVerify message,
then only TLS 1.2 allows you to use a SHA-256 signature, and NSS
doesn't support TLS 1.2 yet.

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Wan-Teh Chang w...@google.com wrote:
 2010/3/19 Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net:
 Hi.
 sha256 certificate means
 client certificate using sha256 for ssl client authentication.

 If you mean the signature in the TLS/SSL CertificateVerify message,
 then only TLS 1.2 allows you to use a SHA-256 signature, and NSS
 doesn't support TLS 1.2 yet.

I should clarify that NSS can still use a client certificate signed by
its CA with a SHA-256 signature to do SSL client authentication.
It's just that the signature in the CertificateVerify message will be
the format specified in TLS 1.0/SSL 3.0.

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-19 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi.
I got to understand the differences and limitations.

personal certificate signed by CA with SHA256 is OK in current firefox.

the CertificateVerify step of SSL handshaking procedure does not support
SHA256 in current firefox.

right?

regards.
mountie.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Wan-Teh Chang w...@google.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Wan-Teh Chang w...@google.com wrote:
  2010/3/19 Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net:
  Hi.
  sha256 certificate means
  client certificate using sha256 for ssl client authentication.
 
  If you mean the signature in the TLS/SSL CertificateVerify message,
  then only TLS 1.2 allows you to use a SHA-256 signature, and NSS
  doesn't support TLS 1.2 yet.

 I should clarify that NSS can still use a client certificate signed by
 its CA with a SHA-256 signature to do SSL client authentication.
 It's just that the signature in the CertificateVerify message will be
 the format specified in TLS 1.0/SSL 3.0.

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-18 Thread Gen Kanai
KISA = Korea Internet Security Agency (a Korean government body that
manages infosec policy.)

http://www.kisa.or.kr/eng/index.jsp

On 3/19/10 11:55 AM, Mountie Lee wrote:
 Hi. all.
 I'm Mountie Lee of PayGate, Korea.

 in Korea, National PKI is becoming big issue maker.
 one of good considerations is 
 storing National Certificate to Browser KeyStore.

 also KISA has planned to upgrade certificate specification using
 SHA256 hash algorithm in next year.
 but current firefox version does not seem to support SHA256 certificate.

 May I ask Firefox has plan to support SHA256 in near future or
 URL link for discussion thread?

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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-18 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi.
thanks for your fast reply.

I understand NSS support SHA256 from 2003 with version 3.8

does the latest firefox use the latest NSS library?

best regards.
mountie.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Kurt Seifried k...@seifried.org wrote:

 Replying off list.

 10 April 2003: NSS 3.8 Release

 The new features and enhancements in NSS 3.8 include the SHA-256,
 SHA-384, and SHA-512 algorithms, enhanced smartcard support, and the
 elliptic curve cryptography code (not compiled by default) contributed
 by Sun Labs. For details, see NSS 3.8 Release Notes.

 NSS claims to support it sine 2003. If it truly doesn't than that
 sounds like a pretty bad bug.


 2010/3/18 Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net:
  Hi. all.
  I'm Mountie Lee of PayGate, Korea.
  in Korea, National PKI is becoming big issue maker.
  one of good considerations is
  storing National Certificate to Browser KeyStore.
  also KISA has planned to upgrade certificate specification using SHA256
 hash
  algorithm in next year.
  but current firefox version does not seem to support SHA256 certificate.
  May I ask Firefox has plan to support SHA256 in near future or
  URL link for discussion thread?
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  E-Mail : moun...@paygate.net
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Re: SHA256 certificate support in Firefox.

2010-03-18 Thread Akira Machida
Hi!

On Mar 19, 12:22 pm, Mountie Lee moun...@paygate.net wrote:
 Hi.
 thanks for your fast reply.

 I understand NSS support SHA256 from 2003 with version 3.8

 does the latest firefox use the latest NSS library?

 best regards.
 mountie.

  Current Firefox 3.5.8 and 3.6.1 seem to include NSS 3.12.5.

regards,
Akira Machida / JCSI
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