[freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:54:35AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:52:47PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This > > is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release > > stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, > > I strongly disagree, it is hard enough to get a release out without > adding yet-another precondition (Kaffe working correctly) over which we > have little or no control. Freenet can be used with free JVMs, but I > don't think we should punish ourselves for bugs in those JVMs, if > someone really wants to use Freenet they can pester Kaffe to fix their > bugs. I agree. We do our part to target kaffe, but we cannot be responsible for it's stability. > > but I > > have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's > > plenty to do first (for example ARKs). > > Do we really want to implement every idea we have thought of prior to > 0.5? I don't think so. My criteria for 0.5 release is fixing current > bugs, I think all the features we need are already in-there (not to say > that more can't be added before 0.5, but 0.5 shouldn't be delayed > because of them). We can't go up a number until the datastore issues are resolved, but beyond that I don't think we need to wait for more features. > I have never really understood what is so great about ARKs anyway - > exactly what are the symptoms of the problem ARKs resolve? Most DSL users have IP addresses that change semi-regularly. -- Oskar Sandberg oskar at freenetproject.org ___ devl mailing list devl at freenetproject.org http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] Oskar won't like this...
...but I think everyone else might. Take a look at http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8890/ (or update your snapshot and look at http://localhost:8890/). I have done some work to demonstrate how Templates can be used to give freenet a more pleasing appearance. The relevant templates may be found in freenet/node/http/templates The "box" template, which is used for the menu at the moment may also be used within Infolets reasonably easily. Ian. -- Ian Clarkeian at freenetproject.org Founder & Coordinator, The Freenet Projecthttp://freenetproject.org/ Chief Technology Officer, Uprizer Inc. http://www.uprizer.com/ Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20020830/543c22f0/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:39:25PM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote: > Fred: > Datastore, but we know that already. Is anyone using Native yet? Probably not, since it does not work yet. regards, -- G?ran ___ devl mailing list devl at freenetproject.org http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] Find devrandom or dump the content filter
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:57:03PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Hi. Newly implemented fproxy functionality allows you to fetch an old > edition of a DBR site, like this: > http://127.0.0.1:/SSK at > rBjVda8pC-Kq04jUurIAb8IzAGcPAgM/TFE//?date=20020817 > > A test page with activelinks to the last 90 days of TFE is at > KSK at activehistorytest1.html. > > But this trips the content filter, which is written in impenetrable > jflex generated code, and we don't seem to have the original flex source > (hint hint GPL violation hint hint). Could devrandom please supply it or > point to it, (or even fix the filter to allow ?date=MMDD)? We really need the Parser.flex. Arguably this is a GPL violation (not having the preferred form for editing). Has anyone moved it? Does anyone have any info on devrandom? He hasn't responded to my email. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20020830/2f4f00e3/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:39:25PM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote: > > Net wise, it's the best I've seen in a long time. I can reach freesites, > frost works and hell, I can retrieve splitfiles. I have not been able to retrieve any pieces of any splitfiles in a long, long time. I am not sure if this is a bug, or if they simply are swamped out by Frost, but it's something I want to investigate. What splitfiles have you fetched successfully? Private email if they're illegal, use my public key. > > Current problems: > > Fproxy: > Attempt #1 of downloading a splitfile ALWAYS fails with 'could not retrieve > enough blocks: got Y of X' where Y is always > X. Attempt #2 works. > > This happens occasionally on a non-split CHK (html, jpg, text) where a second > attempt will cause things to Just Work. > > This could be DS related, since the logs are full of failed to store > key/insufficient storage exceptions. > > Fred: > Datastore, but we know that already. Is anyone using Native yet? > > --Dan My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, but I have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's plenty to do first (for example ARKs). -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20020830/41ef7c27/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:52:47PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This > is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release > stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, I strongly disagree, it is hard enough to get a release out without adding yet-another precondition (Kaffe working correctly) over which we have little or no control. Freenet can be used with free JVMs, but I don't think we should punish ourselves for bugs in those JVMs, if someone really wants to use Freenet they can pester Kaffe to fix their bugs. > but I > have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's > plenty to do first (for example ARKs). Do we really want to implement every idea we have thought of prior to 0.5? I don't think so. My criteria for 0.5 release is fixing current bugs, I think all the features we need are already in-there (not to say that more can't be added before 0.5, but 0.5 shouldn't be delayed because of them). I have never really understood what is so great about ARKs anyway - exactly what are the symptoms of the problem ARKs resolve? Ian. -- Ian Clarkeian at freenetproject.org Founder & Coordinator, The Freenet Projecthttp://freenetproject.org/ Chief Technology Officer, Uprizer Inc. http://www.uprizer.com/ Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20020830/1a4ea30d/attachment.pgp>
Re: [freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:39:25PM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote: Fred: Datastore, but we know that already. Is anyone using Native yet? Probably not, since it does not work yet. regards, -- Göran ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:39:25PM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote: Net wise, it's the best I've seen in a long time. I can reach freesites, frost works and hell, I can retrieve splitfiles. I have not been able to retrieve any pieces of any splitfiles in a long, long time. I am not sure if this is a bug, or if they simply are swamped out by Frost, but it's something I want to investigate. What splitfiles have you fetched successfully? Private email if they're illegal, use my public key. Current problems: Fproxy: Attempt #1 of downloading a splitfile ALWAYS fails with 'could not retrieve enough blocks: got Y of X' where Y is always X. Attempt #2 works. This happens occasionally on a non-split CHK (html, jpg, text) where a second attempt will cause things to Just Work. This could be DS related, since the logs are full of failed to store key/insufficient storage exceptions. Fred: Datastore, but we know that already. Is anyone using Native yet? --Dan My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, but I have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's plenty to do first (for example ARKs). msg03702/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[freenet-dev] Find devrandom or dump the content filter
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:57:03PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: Hi. Newly implemented fproxy functionality allows you to fetch an old edition of a DBR site, like this: http://127.0.0.1:/SSK@rBjVda8pC-Kq04jUurIAb8IzAGcPAgM/TFE//?date=20020817 A test page with activelinks to the last 90 days of TFE is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] But this trips the content filter, which is written in impenetrable jflex generated code, and we don't seem to have the original flex source (hint hint GPL violation hint hint). Could devrandom please supply it or point to it, (or even fix the filter to allow ?date=MMDD)? We really need the Parser.flex. Arguably this is a GPL violation (not having the preferred form for editing). Has anyone moved it? Does anyone have any info on devrandom? He hasn't responded to my email. msg03703/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:52:47PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, I strongly disagree, it is hard enough to get a release out without adding yet-another precondition (Kaffe working correctly) over which we have little or no control. Freenet can be used with free JVMs, but I don't think we should punish ourselves for bugs in those JVMs, if someone really wants to use Freenet they can pester Kaffe to fix their bugs. but I have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's plenty to do first (for example ARKs). Do we really want to implement every idea we have thought of prior to 0.5? I don't think so. My criteria for 0.5 release is fixing current bugs, I think all the features we need are already in-there (not to say that more can't be added before 0.5, but 0.5 shouldn't be delayed because of them). I have never really understood what is so great about ARKs anyway - exactly what are the symptoms of the problem ARKs resolve? Ian. -- Ian Clarke[EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder Coordinator, The Freenet Projecthttp://freenetproject.org/ Chief Technology Officer, Uprizer Inc. http://www.uprizer.com/ Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ msg03704/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [freenet-dev] Almost all good.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:54:35AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:52:47PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: My main problem with freenet atm is that it crashes all the time. This is apparently a problem with Kaffe. One could argue that it is a release stopper, since freenet is supposed to work with free software, I strongly disagree, it is hard enough to get a release out without adding yet-another precondition (Kaffe working correctly) over which we have little or no control. Freenet can be used with free JVMs, but I don't think we should punish ourselves for bugs in those JVMs, if someone really wants to use Freenet they can pester Kaffe to fix their bugs. I agree. We do our part to target kaffe, but we cannot be responsible for it's stability. but I have no idea how to fix it. And I don't think 0.5 is close, there's plenty to do first (for example ARKs). Do we really want to implement every idea we have thought of prior to 0.5? I don't think so. My criteria for 0.5 release is fixing current bugs, I think all the features we need are already in-there (not to say that more can't be added before 0.5, but 0.5 shouldn't be delayed because of them). We can't go up a number until the datastore issues are resolved, but beyond that I don't think we need to wait for more features. I have never really understood what is so great about ARKs anyway - exactly what are the symptoms of the problem ARKs resolve? Most DSL users have IP addresses that change semi-regularly. -- Oskar Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Oskar won't like this...
On Friday 30 August 2002 19:52, Ian wrote: ...but I think everyone else might. It's a cool hack, but I don't get it. It seems like a me-too implementation of JSP. Is it complete enough to localize fproxy with? I hear people complaining that the data store gets corrupted. I hear people complaining that the network is too slow. I hear people complaining that it's too hard to find data. But I haven't heard anyone complain that our html isn't pretty enough. --gj Take a look at http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8890/ (or update your snapshot and look at http://localhost:8890/). I have done some work to demonstrate how Templates can be used to give freenet a more pleasing appearance. The relevant templates may be found in freenet/node/http/templates The box template, which is used for the menu at the moment may also be used within Infolets reasonably easily. Ian. ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
