Re: [digitalradio] NEWBIE OLIVIA QUESTION
Are there common places on each band to look for Olivia QSO's? The 20 and 80 meter bands are quite active Tim - try 3583~3586, 14073~14075. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NEWBIE OLIVIA QUESTION Are there common places on each band to look for Olivia QSO's? Tim, N9PUZ Tony wrote: Hello George, It's best to adjust Olivia to suit the conditions at hand. Sensitivity goes up as you increase the number of tones... Mode Minimum SNR Olivia 500/64-19db Olivia 500/32-17db Olivia 500/16-14db Olivia 500/8..-12db Olivia 500/4..-10db The word-per-minute rate will become slower as the tones are increased, but as you can see, there's a lot to be gained by going a bit slow when signals are weak. The most common mode is 500/16. Hope this helps. Tony -K2MO BE DOING SOME READING UP ON THE 'OLIVIA MODE' I HEAR IT ON 17M SOMEWHAT . MY QUESTION IS WHAT MODE IS USED THE MOST ? LIKE 16/500 ? OR DO YOU CHANGE IT IT UP AND DOWN IN DIFFERENT BANDS? THANK YOU AC5JV,GEORGE
[digitalradio] Olivia Frequencies and Modes Re: NEWBIE QUESTION FROM AC5JV
Hi George, http://hflink.com/olivia The most common flavor of Olivia is 500/16 and for DXing, you can find it on one of the following USB VFO Dial frequencies: 7042.5 USB 7072.5 USB 10142.5 USB 14075.65 USB 14074.65 USB 14077.65 USB 18102.65 USB When Olivia first began, the 1000/32 flavor was much more common, and it is still fairly active in europe and some other parts of the world on these USB VFO Dial Frequencies: 14105.5 kHz USB 14106.5 kHz USB For more complete information on Olivia Frequencies and modes please see the website: http://hflink.com/olivia 73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA AC5JV,GEORGE wrote: MY QUESTION IS WHAT MODE IS USED THE MOST ? LIKE 16/500 ? OR DO YOU CHANGE IT IT UP AND DOWN IN DIFFERENT BANDS?
Re: [digitalradio] NEWBIE OLIVIA QUESTION
has anyone tryied to push the max tones to 256, like 2000/256? What is the SNR on that I wonder? I saw on FLDigi you can do this. K5WGM --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NEWBIE OLIVIA QUESTION To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:12 PM Are there common places on each band to look for Olivia QSO's? Tim, N9PUZ Tony wrote: Hello George, It's best to adjust Olivia to suit the conditions at hand. Sensitivity goes up as you increase the number of tones... Mode Minimum SNR Olivia 500/64.. . .-19db Olivia 500/32.. . .-17db Olivia 500/16.. . .-14db Olivia 500/8... . ..-12db Olivia 500/4... . ..-10db The word-per-minute rate will become slower as the tones are increased, but as you can see, there's a lot to be gained by going a bit slow when signals are weak. The most common mode is 500/16. Hope this helps. Tony -K2MO BE DOING SOME READING UP ON THE 'OLIVIA MODE' I HEAR IT ON 17M SOMEWHAT . MY QUESTION IS WHAT MODE IS USED THE MOST ? LIKE 16/500 ? OR DO YOU CHANGE IT IT UP AND DOWN IN DIFFERENT BANDS? THANK YOU AC5JV,GEORGE
[digitalradio] Olivia Modes/Flavors/Bandwidths/Speed Re: NEWBIE OLIVIA QUESTION
Hi Warren, When Olivia first became somewhat popular, it was mode of the month... there was a lot of experimentation with tones and bandwidths. Operators found advantages for various conditions and needs, with extremes of each flavor. The 2000/64 is quite good for interference rejection. We used it on 40 metres to work through strong shortwave AM broadcast stations that used to be around 7105-7125 kHz. You can QSO with Olivia 2000/64 signals in the midst of S9+ broadcast music interference, without using a narrow passband filter. Just tune your VFO dial to about 500Hz above the broadcast station's carrier frequency. Not many digi modes are capable of that level of performance, even with a lot of help from narrow filters. But, the 500Hz 16-tone flavor of Olivia ended up becoming popular... not really because of its technical superiority over the other flavors... it is mainly because it is the best compromise for weak signal and fast enough keyboarding speed, and still fits within the IARU regions' bandplans 500Hz bandwidth segments. Operating near where RTTY/PSK/other modes are normally found increases the chances for random QSOs and responses to CQs. 73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA K5WGM Warren wrote: has anyone tryied to push the max tones to 256, like 2000/256? What is the SNR on that I wonder? ./
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Contesters and DXers should use busy detectors
W8Rit I wish we had more hams with your attitudeWV8BU
RE: [digitalradio] Re: 7036kHz Digital ops
hmmm could it possibly be that the ARRL are out of step with the rest of the world? Maybe the ARRL might consider changing to match what the rest of us are doing. Mind you , I've never known the ARRL to be wrong before J John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Wallen Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:58 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: 7036kHz Digital ops a lot of phone QRM from Canada on 7.070, IARU and ARRL Band Plans do not jive with each other to well.
[digitalradio] Re: 7036kHz Digital ops
But it's not ARRL vs. IARU in this case; it's FCC versus the rest of the world. 7070 is not in a phone band in the U.S., but is in some other countries. If it were in a phone band in the U.S. then U.S. hams would not be able to operate digital modes there.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: 7036kHz Digital ops
In this case, its the rest o the world versus ARRL. The darn band is now wide enuff, they wshould stop transmitting SSB in the lower half of it. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: jhaynesatalumni To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: 7036kHz Digital ops But it's not ARRL vs. IARU in this case; it's FCC versus the rest of the world. 7070 is not in a phone band in the U.S., but is in some other countries. If it were in a phone band in the U.S. then U.S. hams would not be able to operate digital modes there.
[digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
3598.0...vfo freq? On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
3598.0...vfo freq? Phil, Yes, VFO 3598.0 USB / CF + 1000Hz. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air 3598.0...vfo freq? On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
thanks will try in a few. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: 3598.0...vfo freq? Phil, Yes, VFO 3598.0 USB / CF + 1000Hz. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air 3598.0...vfo freq? On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
Nope. Tried connecting via PAX/PAX2 - no cigar. Condx not great tonight. philw de ka1gmn On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks will try in a few. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: 3598.0...vfo freq? Phil, Yes, VFO 3598.0 USB / CF + 1000Hz. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air 3598.0...vfo freq? On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air
System still up? Making another attempt. philw de ka1gmn On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com wrote: No probem at all. Will try later. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: Nope. Tried connecting via PAX/PAX2 - no cigar. Condx not great tonight. philw de ka1gmn Yes, I was watching Phil - condx are poor between us. The RS ID is very sensitive so you did cause Multipsk to switch from PAX2 to PAX when you called. Thanks for trying. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com ka1gmn%40gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air Nope. Tried connecting via PAX/PAX2 - no cigar. Condx not great tonight. philw de ka1gmn On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.comka1gmn%40gmail.com wrote: thanks will try in a few. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tony d...@optonline.netDXDX%40optonline.net wrote: 3598.0...vfo freq? Phil, Yes, VFO 3598.0 USB / CF + 1000Hz. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com ka1gmn%40gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Experimental Multipsk Mailbox on-air 3598.0...vfo freq? On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tony d...@optonline.netDXDX%40optonline.net wrote: All, I have Multipsk's responder setup as an experimental pseudo mailbox on 3598.0 USB. The beacon is running in PAX2 mode and will accept connects in both PAX and PAX2 (Multipsk will switch modes automatically if you enable your RS ID). The responder also works in PSK63/250 ARQ and 300 baud HF Packet. It does not work like your typical PBBS, but it does allow stations to connect and read the messages that the user posts in the responder. The menu system is limited to L for LIST messages and Rx for READ message number x. To connect, switch Multipsk to PAX/PAX2 modes and make sure UNPROTO is clicked. Put your call in the SENDER box and set the DESTINATION to K2MO. Click CONNECT. The system will respond with a greeting and how to use the menu. All of these items are on left just above the waterfall. PAX is sensitive MFSK mode based on Olivia. Please give it try. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
