Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Hi Andy, Is there any likelihood of future MixW development, for example adding Patrick's RSID or CALL-ID features? I get asked this myself and can't answer as I'm not on any MixW mailing lists. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@gmail.com I should mention that this is an UPDATE with new web cluster link, you need the full version already installed. DX Summit is now used as the basis for the web cluster interface in MixW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Nothing that I have heard. Nick is somewhat more active, as his health has improved, but I hear that the focus of Mixw improvement is on the logging aspect. Andy On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Simon (HB9DRV)simon.br...@kns.ch wrote: Hi Andy, Is there any likelihood of future MixW development, for example adding Patrick's RSID or CALL-ID features? I get asked this myself and can't answer as I'm not on any MixW mailing lists. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@gmail.com I should mention that this is an UPDATE with new web cluster link, you need the full version already installed. DX Summit is now used as the basis for the web cluster interface in MixW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Hi, It's good to hear Nick is better - long time no news. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Nothing that I have heard. Nick is somewhat more active, as his health has improved, but I hear that the focus of Mixw improvement is on the logging aspect.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73, Rick, KV9U Andy obrien wrote: Nothing that I have heard. Nick is somewhat more active, as his health has improved, but I hear that the focus of Mixw improvement is on the logging aspect. Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Rick W wrote: What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73, Rick, KV9U Rick, nearly all members of Texas Army MARS and Region 6, are using MixW. idly curious, what else is out there that can even almost compete with Nick's software?? look and feel is not a consideration but what else has all the features of or even is better than, MixW? special interest in an OS-X ported version?? thanks chas, k5dam
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
MixW has (I think) support for the data modes used by satellites - that's one thing I would like to support. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net What am I missing?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
jhaynesatalumni wrote: No, let's get back to Rick's question and ask what it is about MixW that you find to be superior to everything else out there. I downloaded a trial version of MixW long ago and wasn't impressed enough to want to go further with it. What am I missing? I can't speak for anyone else but I still use and like MIXW. Why? Because I'm just comfortable using it, not because it's necessarily better. When I first tried a digital mode other than RTTY I used Digipan. I liked it so I purchased MIXW. Since then I've tried others and they work just fine, they just aren't what's burned into my head. I think it's pretty common for people to stick with a tool that we first get comfortable with unless it really has some deficiency. If I were selecting a program for the first time now I imagine HRD would be my personal choice. Tim, N9PUZ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
chas, What are the MARS operators using MixW for? Are there modes that are not available on other programs that they find compelling? I downloaded MixW again today, but it looks about the same as it did in past years. It is a fairly clean interface (albeit, that is a subjective thing for an individual user to determine), but maybe not quite as nice as fldigi, which I think has the best interface in terms of simplicity and understandability of all the multimode digital programs. The font rendering in the text windows is terrible. but I have not looked into the details of whether this can be changed. I would be surprised if it could not, but the default is very poor. MixW is nowhere near as polished as Ham Radio Deluxe, and yet they expect substantial payment for MixW. The world has completely changed in terms of readily available free and often open source software. MixW does not have the FAE 400 ARQ modes only available in Multipsk. That is one mode that I would think MARS might find useful. The one thing MixW can do over all other software is add in the Q15X25 mode, but unfortunately that mode has not been practical on most HF circuits. Does MARS even use the Q15X25 mode? Some things I like about MixW - provides general logging from the program, some thing that even fldigi can not do for non-digital modes - includes packet, however, this is also available in Multipsk I guess what you have not answered is what does MixW have that the other programs do not have? Is MARS use different than for amateur radio use? 73, Rick, KV9U chas wrote: Rick W wrote: What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73, Rick, KV9U Rick, nearly all members of Texas Army MARS and Region 6, are using MixW. idly curious, what else is out there that can even almost compete with Nick's software?? look and feel is not a consideration but what else has all the features of or even is better than, MixW? special interest in an OS-X ported version?? thanks chas, k5dam Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.70/2177 - Release Date: 06/15/09 05:54:00
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
I think MARS uses MixW mostly for MT63. Here in South Carolina, in Navy MARS, we are standardizing on using fldigi for MT63, and before that some people used MixW and some used Nino's program. It all boils down to whicher user interface is easier to use, or to train people to use. If everyone uses the same program in a traffic net, then training on one single program is much simpler. We have also started introducing a utility we call Wrap (http://w1hkj.com/wrap.html) to South Caroina NAVY MARS, which is used to verify the error-free receipt of the message. Fldigi can automatically parse all the incoming text, extract the wrapped messages, and numerically date stamp and file them for later unwrapping. None of the other MT63 modems do that, of course. 73, Skip KH6TY NNN0VFA Rick W wrote: chas, What are the MARS operators using MixW for? Are there modes that are not available on other programs that they find compelling?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
My 2 cents worth: I have tried them all and still prefer MixW. It is a simple program yet does everything I want it to. It is neat and orderly in layout and appearance. It will use my RAC CD, a lot of logging programs won't. I just click on a callsign and the logging info fills right in. I've tried MultiPSK, and to be honest, it does a lot, but gawd, that is one UGLY looking program. I don't even like to look at it. HRD is nice, but I don't need all those moving screens and options.. again, it is just too busy for me. I don't need a computer program to change frequency for me, I can turn the knob myself. I don't need a program that is packed with a bunch of strange modes that are rarely, if ever, used. Fldigi won't run on my computer, but I notice a few things that would keep it from being my main digital/logging program. We all have our likes and dislikes, none of us are right or wrong, just different in what we like to use. Since MixW is not free, that alone will drive some guys to HRD, etc.MixW's attraction for me is it's simple, and does it all. If the authors of MixW decide to abandon it, I'd keep using it unless another progarm came up with something really great that would entice me to change. 73 de WB4M Buddy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, chas ch...@... wrote: Rick W wrote: What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73,
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
It is all about the visual simplicity of its interface . . . elegant in its minimalism. And I say that truly as a complement. Although I like HRD and MultiPSK both for other reasons, MixW is easier to use. More pleasing to the eyes especially versus MultiPSK. Rick - KH2DF Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2009, at 11:52 AM, jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, chas ch...@... wrote: Rick W wrote: What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73, Rick, KV9U Rick, nearly all members of Texas Army MARS and Region 6, are using MixW. idly curious, what else is out there that can even almost compete with Nick's software?? look and feel is not a consideration but what else has all the features of or even is better than, MixW? No, let's get back to Rick's question and ask what it is about MixW that you find to be superior to everything else out there. I downloaded a trial version of MixW long ago and wasn't impressed enough to want to go further with it. What am I missing? Jim W6JVE
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Hello Buddy, UGLY looking program. I don't even like to look at it. HRD is nice, but I PSE, say that you don't like the interface and ignore this program. No need to be excessive. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: F.R. Ashley gda...@clearwire.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw My 2 cents worth: I have tried them all and still prefer MixW. It is a simple program yet does everything I want it to. It is neat and orderly in layout and appearance. It will use my RAC CD, a lot of logging programs won't. I just click on a callsign and the logging info fills right in. I've tried MultiPSK, and to be honest, it does a lot, but gawd, that is one UGLY looking program. I don't even like to look at it. HRD is nice, but I don't need all those moving screens and options.. again, it is just too busy for me. I don't need a computer program to change frequency for me, I can turn the knob myself. I don't need a program that is packed with a bunch of strange modes that are rarely, if ever, used. Fldigi won't run on my computer, but I notice a few things that would keep it from being my main digital/logging program. We all have our likes and dislikes, none of us are right or wrong, just different in what we like to use. Since MixW is not free, that alone will drive some guys to HRD, etc.MixW's attraction for me is it's simple, and does it all. If the authors of MixW decide to abandon it, I'd keep using it unless another progarm came up with something really great that would entice me to change. 73 de WB4M Buddy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, chas ch...@... wrote: Rick W wrote: What is the attraction of MixW now that we have so many other multimode digital programs that are freely available with one program even open source and cross platform? 73, Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
I think that as a digital mode application, MixW is good , but it has lagged seriously behind other applications in the past 2-3 years. The DX cluster operations are no-where near as good as Winwarbler affords via the Spotcollector interface, or the opportunities DM780 has provides via HRD's cluster interface. Logging interfacing in MixW is light-years behind DM780 , Multipsk, or Winwarbler (the latter two seamlessly interface with DX Keeper), although Nick is reportedly planning a major improvementt to Mixw's logger . Multipsk and Fldigi have many 'advanced: features for the digital mode enthusiast that are not contained within MixW. I remember when Skip and Nick combined to take MixW to a level that had not been seen before, so maybe Nick will achieve something similar in future versions. At the moment, in my opinion, it is an app that has past its time. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Buddy and Rick, What you are describing seems to be flidigi more than any other program. Have you tried this program? And unlike Windows-only programs, fldigi works on more platforms than any other program of its type. Maybe the RAC CD won't work on fldigi though. Fldigi is ultra clean and very simple compared to the eye candy type of programs. Most all the programs now can do rig control but you don't have to use it. But if you are letting the program do the logging of frequency and mode, it is very hard to give up, HI. What are the strange modes? MixW has at least one orphan mode compared with other programs, but fldigi only has very common modes, plus modes like THOR which are an enhanced type of IFK with FEC and mostly to be used with ARQ transmissions for those sending messages or files. I am not sure, but MixW may not directly support Olivia without a separate set up. Fldigi, HRD/DM780, and Multipsk work out of the box. But since the other programs are at least as good, or, even better in some respects, at least the ones you indicate you prefer, it is hard to pay for one product when the others are freely available (but you can donate). 73, Rick, KV9U F.R. Ashley wrote: My 2 cents worth: I have tried them all and still prefer MixW. It is a simple program yet does everything I want it to. It is neat and orderly in layout and appearance. It will use my RAC CD, a lot of logging programs won't. I just click on a callsign and the logging info fills right in. I've tried MultiPSK, and to be honest, it does a lot, but gawd, that is one UGLY looking program. I don't even like to look at it. HRD is nice, but I don't need all those moving screens and options.. again, it is just too busy for me. I don't need a computer program to change frequency for me, I can turn the knob myself. I don't need a program that is packed with a bunch of strange modes that are rarely, if ever, used. Fldigi won't run on my computer, but I notice a few things that would keep it from being my main digital/logging program. We all have our likes and dislikes, none of us are right or wrong, just different in what we like to use. Since MixW is not free, that alone will drive some guys to HRD, etc.MixW's attraction for me is it's simple, and does it all. If the authors of MixW decide to abandon it, I'd keep using it unless another progarm came up with something really great that would entice me to change. 73 de WB4M Buddy and It is all about the visual simplicity of its interface . . . elegant in its minimalism. And I say that truly as a complement. Although I like HRD and MultiPSK both for other reasons, MixW is easier to use. More pleasing to the eyes especially versus MultiPSK. Rick - KH2DF
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Not quite true...MultiPSK does have the KISS option, but it has a glitch in it so that it passes unacceptable information back to the BBS at the ending of a message. Patrick will no doubt get around to fixing this but there is little demand for it as compared to other mods he is making to the program. 73 Mark KQ0I --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Charles Brabham n5...@uspacket.org wrote: From: Charles Brabham n5...@uspacket.org Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 7:51 PM MixW has the vitual KISS TNC option that other programs lack. This allows you to use MixW's AX25 modes ( Packet, Q15x25 ) with any software that looks for a KISS TNC. In my case, I run MixW as a KISS HF Packet TNC with waterfall display in the same computer with G8BPQ node software ( BPQ32 ) and F6FBB BBS software ( WinFBB32) . While the BBS runs, I can bring up RX windows in any MixW supported mode in order to copy other signals in the passband. You can see a screenshot of this setup running at: http://n5pvl.rgvham.com/stxbbs/screen.htm No other multimode software offers the vitual KISS TNC option - unfortunately. 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
