Re: [Drakelist] Hum in audio

2012-08-12 Thread Mike Williams

Carey,

I had the same issue with my T4X; it turned out to be the AC-4.  As 
Richard mentioned, use a scope or have a ham with a spectrum scope watch 
your signal on key down.  I installed the Heathkit shop PS kit since it 
was long overdue anyway.


73,  Mike   W4DL

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2. Re: hum in audio (Richard Knoppow)
3. TR4C Project unit for Sale (Pinholster Chris)


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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:43:35 -0500
From: Carey Lockhart, KC5GTTkc5...@gmail.com
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Subject: [Drakelist] hum in audio
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Hello All

I have developed a hum in the audio of my t4x. on am it completely wipes out 
the audio and pushes the output up. on ssb it is there but not near as bad. you 
can actully understand the audio. i have checked power supply voltages and all 
is well. before i started poking and hacking i figured it was best to seek your 
opinions.

Carey
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:00:27 -0700
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- Original Message -
From: Carey Lockhart, KC5GTTkc5...@gmail.com
To:drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:43 AM
Subject: [Drakelist] hum in audio


Hello All

I have developed a hum in the audio of my t4x. on am it
completely wipes out the audio and pushes the output up. on
ssb it is there but not near as bad. you can actully
understand the audio. i have checked power supply voltages
and all is well. before i started poking and hacking i
figured it was best to seek your opinions.

Carey
 Make sure this is not power supply hum by checking the
supply with an AC meter or scope. There should be little
ripple. However, I suspect that you have an audio hum due to
a loose ground.  The hum will be worse in AM because in AM
mode the side-band filters are bypassed. The audio goes to
the modulator which connects directly to the output tubes so
there is much more low end.  If the hum is from the audio
stage there should be none in CW.  Begin with the microphone
and its cable and connector and if not there with the
connector in the transmitter.  One standard bit of voodoo in
much old equipment is to go through and work and tighten all
the screws.  Very often ground connections are made through
them and they become slightly corroded in the same way as
the contacts on switches do. Working them will clean the
connection and often get rid of pernicious problems.




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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:43:21 -0400
From: Pinholster Chrisk4...@mac.com
To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject: [Drakelist] TR4C Project unit for Sale
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To those interested in a TR4C project.

I powered up this TR4C today using one of my AC4 power supplies. All the tubes including 
the finals appeared to light up. I got sound but from the headphone jack. I wouldn't 
attempt to try the transmitter except on a modified heathkit AC4., which I do not have. I 
consider the unit as lights up but non working.
The outside cabinet looks like it was repainted. There are decals on the 
various jacks and side controls. The inside I would consider rough and dirty. I 
think the unit could be refurbed. It might be a nice project.

I am attaching a website with some pictures I took with my iphone . The serial 
number is visible in the rear photo.

I am pricing this at $150 as is, plus actual fedex shipping cost to your 
location.
I am in Belleair Beach Fl 33786. If you have any questions you can call me at 
727 409-9492

Chris Pinholster   K4WIN


http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/Lgk1ewt4/1/5706677

Re: [Drakelist] Hum in audio

2012-08-12 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Williams mj...@bellsouth.net

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Hum in audio



Carey,

I had the same issue with my T4X; it turned out to be the 
AC-4.  As Richard mentioned, use a scope or have a ham 
with a spectrum scope watch your signal on key down.  I 
installed the Heathkit shop PS kit since it was long 
overdue anyway.


73,  Mike   W4DL


I suspect this is not the power supply but its always 
worth checking it.  I have two AC-4s with the Heathkit shop 
kit in them.  Both work fine.  I suspect that just replacing 
the caps with some from Hayseed Hamfest would do as well. 
The Heathkit shop kit replaces all the caps plus the 
rectifiers and resistors but usually its only the caps that 
go bad. When I did my AC-4 I removed the unused can caps 
from the chassis.  I suppose some people leave them on for 
cosmetic purposes but I don't see any sense to that plus the 
openings in the chassis from the old caps are convenient for 
wiring.
Note that there is a fair amount of ripple on the HV 
line especially under load. I also found the voltages given 
in the Heathkit instructions were optimistic.



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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com 



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[Drakelist] hum in audio

2012-08-11 Thread Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT
Hello All

I have developed a hum in the audio of my t4x. on am it completely wipes out 
the audio and pushes the output up. on ssb it is there but not near as bad. you 
can actully understand the audio. i have checked power supply voltages and all 
is well. before i started poking and hacking i figured it was best to seek your 
opinions.

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Re: [Drakelist] hum in audio

2012-08-11 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT kc5...@gmail.com

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:43 AM
Subject: [Drakelist] hum in audio


Hello All

I have developed a hum in the audio of my t4x. on am it 
completely wipes out the audio and pushes the output up. on 
ssb it is there but not near as bad. you can actully 
understand the audio. i have checked power supply voltages 
and all is well. before i started poking and hacking i 
figured it was best to seek your opinions.


Carey
   Make sure this is not power supply hum by checking the 
supply with an AC meter or scope. There should be little 
ripple. However, I suspect that you have an audio hum due to 
a loose ground.  The hum will be worse in AM because in AM 
mode the side-band filters are bypassed. The audio goes to 
the modulator which connects directly to the output tubes so 
there is much more low end.  If the hum is from the audio 
stage there should be none in CW.  Begin with the microphone 
and its cable and connector and if not there with the 
connector in the transmitter.  One standard bit of voodoo in 
much old equipment is to go through and work and tighten all 
the screws.  Very often ground connections are made through 
them and they become slightly corroded in the same way as 
the contacts on switches do. Working them will clean the 
connection and often get rid of pernicious problems.





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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com


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