Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 12:34:23AM -0400, Larry Stone wrote: FWIW, some of the lists to which I subscribe mung the reply-to header to force replies to go to the list, and some don't -- I'm invariably annoyed by the ones that _do_ mung headers. So take this as a vote NOT to change the behavior of the DSpace lists. My mail user agent is a certifiable antique, but it has simple, separate commands for reply to sender and reply to all. I prefer to have that option, but it goes away if teh Reply-To header forces a reply to the list even when I choose to write only to sender. I suspect we'll see a bunch of inadvertent posts to the whole lists if this gets changed, too. -- Larry +1 from someone who always hits 'g'. Jim -- James Rutherford | Hewlett-Packard Limited registered Office: Research Engineer | Cain Road, HP Labs | Bracknell, Bristol, UK | Berks +44 117 312 7066 | RG12 1HN. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Registered No: 690597 England The contents of this message and any attachments to it are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received this message in error, you should delete it from your system immediately and advise the sender. To any recipient of this message within HP, unless otherwise stated you should consider this message and attachments as HP CONFIDENTIAL. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Hello, Am 01.08.2007 um 14:05 schrieb James Rutherford: On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 12:34:23AM -0400, Larry Stone wrote: Huh, forgot the g? SCNR. You all helped me that much with this thread to change my habit from r - g. Honestly. Am 31.07.2007 um 22:30 schrieb Hilmar Lapp: It also might be a field-specific preference. I'm on many programming/open-source project mailing lists, and almost universally, and purposefully, they are set to not munge the reply-to header Probably thats the point. Whether dspace-tech community is programmer-centric and should help participants to learn new habits that are expected in this then-new area. I personally still feel, there could be a difference between dspace-general and dspace-tech as user-centric lists and dspace-devel, dspace-manakin and so on as programmer-centric. But after I learned that programmers feel annoyed by munged headers I fear to scare them off this list. This would be exactly the opposite of my original intent. In such a case, either the never change a running system rule applies or the you say no until the day you finally agree. We will see... Christian - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Well, I prefer to have replies to listmail go back to the list by default, but you'll have complaints either way. The best one can do is guess correctly which setup will annoy the fewest and do the least damage. But while we're talking about this, please please please ensure that the List-Foo: headers are not disabled. In Mutt I can hit L to reply-to-list and not send multiple copies to the O.P. as g would. (I hate receiving duplicates -- another religious issue.) -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Typically when a software vendor says that a product is intuitive he means the exact opposite. pgp5pJB0LfEFL.pgp Description: PGP signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: (I hate receiving duplicates -- another religious issue.) Mailman (which runs this list too, I believe) has a per-user (as well as per-list default) option to avoid duplicates. It has worked extremely well for me so far. -hilmar - -- === : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : === -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGsKm5j7KVhnWRsyARAghVAJ47gE8KNNb0j76QH+3eNdd1i4bjxgCcDhAB Jh1XzJQ7NCP9cvCucvbiYss= =nPY4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:41:41AM -0400, Hilmar Lapp wrote: On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: (I hate receiving duplicates -- another religious issue.) Mailman (which runs this list too, I believe) has a per-user (as well as per-list default) option to avoid duplicates. It has worked extremely well for me so far. Likewise. I think it's actually geared to do this in the default settings when you sign up. cheers, Jim -- James Rutherford | Hewlett-Packard Limited registered Office: Research Engineer | Cain Road, HP Labs | Bracknell, Bristol, UK | Berks +44 117 312 7066 | RG12 1HN. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Registered No: 690597 England The contents of this message and any attachments to it are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received this message in error, you should delete it from your system immediately and advise the sender. To any recipient of this message within HP, unless otherwise stated you should consider this message and attachments as HP CONFIDENTIAL. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Folks: I'm currently administering the tech dev lists would gladly reconfigure if the preponderance of opinion is in favor. I'm by no means a mail admin, and was following the recommendations of the GNU mailman docs, which I reproduce here: reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in the original message, it is not stripped. Setting this value to either This list or Explicit address causes Mailman to insert a specific Reply-To: header in all messages, overriding the header in the original message if necessary (Explicit address inserts the value of reply_to_address). There are many reasons not to introduce or override the Reply-To: header. One is that some posters depend on their own Reply-To: settings to convey their valid return address. Another is that modifying Reply-To: makes it much more difficult to send private replies. See `Reply-To' Munging Considered Harmful for a general discussion of this issue. See Reply-To Munging Considered Useful for a dissenting opinion. Some mailing lists have restricted posting privileges, with a parallel list devoted to discussions. Examples are `patches' or `checkin' lists, where software changes are posted by a revision control system, but discussion about the changes occurs on a developers mailing list. To support these types of mailing lists, select Explicit address and set the Reply-To: address below to point to the parallel list. Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. Poster This list Explicit address If anyone has further input, please share with the list. Thanks, Richard R On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 11:38 -0500, Dorothea Salo wrote: The result of a missing reply-to header is that you have to use the reply-all function of your mail client to answer back to the list, which seems unnatural. In most cases, answers seem to be sent in private mail as implied by the missing header. As of my perception, this makes the list *more* noisy as required and renders the list archive less useful. Let me explain. I agree. Useful responses are not publicly archived, which means they are not searchable, which means we get the same questions over and over -- not because there is no answer, but because there is no *public* answer. I would very much appreciate the reconfiguration of dspace-tech to reply-to-list instead of reply-to-sender. Dorothea - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
For those who haven't seen this: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html There's nothing I can add. -hilmar On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Richard Rodgers wrote: Folks: I'm currently administering the tech dev lists would gladly reconfigure if the preponderance of opinion is in favor. I'm by no means a mail admin, and was following the recommendations of the GNU mailman docs, which I reproduce here: reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in the original message, it is not stripped. Setting this value to either This list or Explicit address causes Mailman to insert a specific Reply-To: header in all messages, overriding the header in the original message if necessary (Explicit address inserts the value of reply_to_address). There are many reasons not to introduce or override the Reply-To: header. One is that some posters depend on their own Reply-To: settings to convey their valid return address. Another is that modifying Reply-To: makes it much more difficult to send private replies. See `Reply-To' Munging Considered Harmful for a general discussion of this issue. See Reply-To Munging Considered Useful for a dissenting opinion. Some mailing lists have restricted posting privileges, with a parallel list devoted to discussions. Examples are `patches' or `checkin' lists, where software changes are posted by a revision control system, but discussion about the changes occurs on a developers mailing list. To support these types of mailing lists, select Explicit address and set the Reply-To: address below to point to the parallel list. Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. Poster This list Explicit address If anyone has further input, please share with the list. Thanks, Richard R On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 11:38 -0500, Dorothea Salo wrote: The result of a missing reply-to header is that you have to use the reply-all function of your mail client to answer back to the list, which seems unnatural. In most cases, answers seem to be sent in private mail as implied by the missing header. As of my perception, this makes the list *more* noisy as required and renders the list archive less useful. Let me explain. I agree. Useful responses are not publicly archived, which means they are not searchable, which means we get the same questions over and over -- not because there is no answer, but because there is no *public* answer. I would very much appreciate the reconfiguration of dspace-tech to reply-to-list instead of reply-to-sender. Dorothea -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- === : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : === - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Hello, Am 31.07.2007 um 18:16 schrieb Hilmar Lapp: For those who haven't seen this: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html There's nothing I can add. It is always a bad thing to be the advocate ones own behalf, but I cant resist to do so in this case. Unhappily, the article presenting the opposite view seems to have vanished from the web. At least I couldnt find it in a quick search. I wont go in every detail, because I could argue against every single sentence in this post. It is extremly biased by an extreme kind of guy who should never be allowed to make any decisions that have to do with usability. Hear him talk, all what he has to tell is elm can do it. Well, I can do so too. I actually just do. Yes, and every decent MUA has two different commands. The thing is, in 99.999% of all cases you use hit reply and not reply-all, dont you? Do you ever think about when doing? No, you actually wouldnt use such modernistic stuff like email if you were still thinking about every decision you take within a minute. Command-R is stored in your muscular memory. Yes, email is a rather complicated thing one shouldnt tinker with. But the page count of RFCs cant impress me. Yes, I read them regularly too, when I try to solve a problem. At least, I can confirm that the writer of the pamphlet is as knowledgeable to quote the right RFCs. There is only one single technical argument given. Preexisiting reply- to headers might be overriden. Yes. Who uses them? I did a quick search through 2000 messages I archive locally and could not find a single post using it. It might have been a means of organising your accounts when they were expensive. I havent seen such since the times when everybody has half a dozen of them, using syndication services for free or managing all of them centralized with one client. But yes, this might harm in some rare cases. Please speak up if I anybody would be harmed. The argument that it makes things more complicated and breaks elm might be a hint that elm is actually the kind of brain-dead software he is bashing. With *MY* personal favourite email client that every- body in the world could use as well if he/she was such a wizard as I am, it is really easy to reply to the sender, just point on it and choose reply to sender from the contextual menu. Ok, I stop rant-mode. I think it is quite clear what I meant with a biased view in this post (I enjoy such thing, it gives me a chance to counter it). Some mailing lists have restricted posting privileges, with a parallel list devoted to discussions. I made the difference with discussion lists vs. announcement list which is roughly the same. After having said all of the above, I can also tell, that I start integrating the reply-all habit in my muscular memory and that it is not a matter of live and die for me. Bye, Christian - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
For what it's worth, I re-configure the lists I'm responsible for to reply to both the sender and the list. As Christian said, hitting the reply-all button just isn't a reflex I can train into my users. Ralph - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
On Jul 31, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Christian Voelker wrote: The thing is, in 99.999% of all cases you use hit reply and not reply-all, dont you? No. I almost always hit reply-all. If I don't, it's a conscious decision. Do you ever think about when doing? No, and that's why when I hit reply (and not reply all) I expect it to be a private email. It also might be a field-specific preference. I'm on many programming/ open-source project mailing lists, and almost universally, and purposefully, they are set to not munge the reply-to header (for the simple reasons stated in the article). -hilmar -- === : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : === - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Admittedly, I don't have a strong opinion either way. Most other listservs I'm on do munge the Reply-To header so that you always reply to the list. I'd also admit that annoys me sometimes when I just want to reply only to the sender (and even in Thunderbird, I cannot do that without manually replacing the list's email address with the sender's). All in all, I wonder if Ralph LeVan's suggestion of adding *both* the list and the sender to the Reply-To would be a nice compromise. :) - Tim -- Tim Donohue Research Programmer, Illinois Digital Environment for Access to Learning and Scholarship (IDEALS) 135 Grainger Engineering Library University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.ideals.uiuc.edu phone: (217) 333-4648 fax: (217) 244-7764 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
FWIW, some of the lists to which I subscribe mung the reply-to header to force replies to go to the list, and some don't -- I'm invariably annoyed by the ones that _do_ mung headers. So take this as a vote NOT to change the behavior of the DSpace lists. My mail user agent is a certifiable antique, but it has simple, separate commands for reply to sender and reply to all. I prefer to have that option, but it goes away if teh Reply-To header forces a reply to the list even when I choose to write only to sender. I suspect we'll see a bunch of inadvertent posts to the whole lists if this gets changed, too. -- Larry - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
The result of a missing reply-to header is that you have to use the reply-all function of your mail client to answer back to the list, which seems unnatural. In most cases, answers seem to be sent in private mail as implied by the missing header. As of my perception, this makes the list *more* noisy as required and renders the list archive less useful. Let me explain. I agree. Useful responses are not publicly archived, which means they are not searchable, which means we get the same questions over and over -- not because there is no answer, but because there is no *public* answer. I would very much appreciate the reconfiguration of dspace-tech to reply-to-list instead of reply-to-sender. Dorothea -- Dorothea Salo[EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital Repository Librarian AIM: mindsatuw University of Wisconsin Rm 218, Memorial Library (608) 262-5493 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
[Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Hello, as I am actively following the list these days I am slightly annoyed with the header settings of the list. I have got the feeling that they are misconfigured as they are. Prove me wrong if I havent got the list policy right, but that is how it looks to me right now. Other *discussion* lists (as opposed to *announce- ment* lists) I am actively participating in have the reply-to header set to the list address. Dspace-tech does not have a reply-to header and the from-line is not rewritten to the list address (and should not be). I have searched the list archive whether this had been discussed before and I am really astonished that I couldnt find anything and that everybody seems to be happy. The result of a missing reply-to header is that you have to use the reply-all function of your mail client to answer back to the list, which seems unnatural. In most cases, answers seem to be sent in private mail as implied by the missing header. As of my perception, this makes the list *more* noisy as required and renders the list archive less useful. Let me explain. If I answer simple questions that I feel capable to answer properly right now to help others that start using DSpace, I sometimes get replies such as thank you, but three others told me the same before. So three people have spent time and thought on helping beginners. What a waste. These answers start to discourage me from answering questions older then an hour or two, although I might be one of the few people reading the list at that time because I am living in the european time gap between the user groups in Asia an America. None of the three answers went to the list archive. The same question will pop up on the list again some days later. You cant simply point somebody to the list archive as usual, because it does not contain the knowledge present on the list. If I see a disclosure triangle besides a new post in the threaded view of my mailer, I dont bother to answer or read a question unless I am interested to learn about the subject myself. Most questions seem to remain unheard though. You dont know, whether they are or not. In some cases, they get reposted on dspace-general, which is the time you know that nobody took care of them. Motivation to participate actively in a list might be different, but sometimes philantropy and selfish- ness come along with each other. Being visible on the web in a list archive demonstrates a certain level of knowledge and involvement. This could foster a kind of competition to be the first to answer and help every participant to get quick responses. Last thing. When I forgot to hit reply-all, I sometimes resend it to the list when I feel it is worth it. Today I learned that this doesnt cure the issue as intended. The answer is not contained in the threaded view in the archive then. I would have to reply with reply-all a second time, copying the former answer to the new message to retain the right message id. I hope it was not too lengthy and boring. Please tell me if I have misunderstood some basic concept of this list. Bye, Christian - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Reply-To Header missing - list misconfigured?
Hello! I also found this very strange, but i never complaint because the Horde Webmail has a nice feature, called Reply to List, that i use very often. Marcelo Quoting Christian Voelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, as I am actively following the list these days I am slightly annoyed with the header settings of the list. I have got the feeling that they are misconfigured as they are. Prove me wrong if I havent got the list policy right, but that is how it looks to me right now. Other *discussion* lists (as opposed to *announce- ment* lists) I am actively participating in have the reply-to header set to the list address. Dspace-tech does not have a reply-to header and the from-line is not rewritten to the list address (and should not be). I have searched the list archive whether this had been discussed before and I am really astonished that I couldnt find anything and that everybody seems to be happy. The result of a missing reply-to header is that you have to use the reply-all function of your mail client to answer back to the list, which seems unnatural. In most cases, answers seem to be sent in private mail as implied by the missing header. As of my perception, this makes the list *more* noisy as required and renders the list archive less useful. Let me explain. If I answer simple questions that I feel capable to answer properly right now to help others that start using DSpace, I sometimes get replies such as thank you, but three others told me the same before. So three people have spent time and thought on helping beginners. What a waste. These answers start to discourage me from answering questions older then an hour or two, although I might be one of the few people reading the list at that time because I am living in the european time gap between the user groups in Asia an America. None of the three answers went to the list archive. The same question will pop up on the list again some days later. You cant simply point somebody to the list archive as usual, because it does not contain the knowledge present on the list. If I see a disclosure triangle besides a new post in the threaded view of my mailer, I dont bother to answer or read a question unless I am interested to learn about the subject myself. Most questions seem to remain unheard though. You dont know, whether they are or not. In some cases, they get reposted on dspace-general, which is the time you know that nobody took care of them. Motivation to participate actively in a list might be different, but sometimes philantropy and selfish- ness come along with each other. Being visible on the web in a list archive demonstrates a certain level of knowledge and involvement. This could foster a kind of competition to be the first to answer and help every participant to get quick responses. Last thing. When I forgot to hit reply-all, I sometimes resend it to the list when I feel it is worth it. Today I learned that this doesnt cure the issue as intended. The answer is not contained in the threaded view in the archive then. I would have to reply with reply-all a second time, copying the former answer to the new message to retain the right message id. I hope it was not too lengthy and boring. Please tell me if I have misunderstood some basic concept of this list. Bye, Christian - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
