Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID800 data transmission.

2008-09-29 Thread Nate Duehr

On Sep 28, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Steve Bosshard wrote:

 Two other things, Rick:

 1 - Echo on your local repeater works for testing.

... If you have a Gateway that has DPlus installed.

(Non-Gateway equipped repeaters have nothing to do the echo feature  
with, and the stock Icom Gateway doesn't do echo.  Echo from the  
repeater callsign and E in the eighth character field does work for  
bouncing both voice and low-speed data back at yourself for test  
purposes, but only if the above criteria are met.)

Just a small overly-detailed correction for Steve's comment...

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Nate Duehr, WY0X
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Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID800 data transmission.

2008-09-29 Thread Nate Duehr

On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Rick wrote:

 Hi All
 I got it. Here is what I did. Since I am using a Mac I have a  
 program called Parallels. I
 rebooted the Mac and restarted Windows. Before I started Windows I  
 unplugged the
 programming cable and the USB converter. Once I restarted Windows I  
 started the D-Chat
 program,plugged in the cable and and Windows saw it. Now it  
 transmits. I also tried it
 with D-Rats and it worked fine. Not sure if the programming cable  
 was interfering with
 the data cable port but I will check that later. For now I can play  
 with the Data part of D-
 STAR

 Rick/WA6ES


The only radios the programming cable works for sending low-speed  
data with are the HT's.  (Well, I don't know about the 2820.  I don't  
have that rig.)

The programming cable for the ID-800H goes into the SPEAKER  
connection, the data cable goes into the mini-DIN on the back.

(In Icom-friendly circles, this is known as a pain in the ass.  In  
non-Icom friendly circles, this is known as crappy design.)

Either way, you have to carry TWO cables to do stuff with an ID-800H.   
If you have a GPS that expects to be plugged into a DTE device (like a  
PC), gender benders and/or a null modem adapter or a THIRD cable  
must be utilized to send GPS direct into the rig, since the normal  
serial cable for the rig is wired up to go from a DTE device (PC) to  
the rig (DCE).

(I have an old Garmin GPS V that the factory cable is wired to plug  
directly into a PC serial port (DTE), and I have a cable locally made  
that connects the mini-DIN on the ID-800H to a PC (DTE) also.   The TX/ 
RX have to be rolled for the GPS to go direct to the rig.  I leave an  
appropriate gender bender and null modem adapter on the GPS and I can  
just swap the cable coming off the rig between that connection and the  
back of a PC (or a PC USB serial adapter) with no other changes.)

Checklist:

In the Set menu, GPS must be OFF.
In the Set menu, the data transmit mode must be Auto, not PTT.
In the power-up holding Set menu, the Data Speed must be noted (you  
can select 4800 baud or 9600 baud - in my case, my old GPS is 4800, so  
I leave it on 4800 and adjust other software appropriately).
Low speed data MUST be sent through the appropriate pins on the mini- 
DIN connector.

I just went through this again tonight, scratching my head wondering  
why the rig wouldn't transmit, until I remembered I had programmed GPS  
ON via the programming software and the OTHER cable.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
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Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID800 data transmission.

2008-09-29 Thread Nate Duehr
Crud, someone else mentioned it, but I forgot to put it on the  
checklist:

BUSY indication MUST be extinguished on a quiet channel.  (Squelch and/ 
or Attenuator-Squelch mode as needed to get it to stay off when no  
other stations are transmitting on-frequency, or the rig will refuse  
to transmit data in Auto transmit mode.)

Nate WY0X

On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:11 AM, Nate Duehr wrote:


 On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Rick wrote:

 Hi All
 I got it. Here is what I did. Since I am using a Mac I have a  
 program called Parallels. I
 rebooted the Mac and restarted Windows. Before I started Windows I  
 unplugged the
 programming cable and the USB converter. Once I restarted Windows I  
 started the D-Chat
 program,plugged in the cable and and Windows saw it. Now it  
 transmits. I also tried it
 with D-Rats and it worked fine. Not sure if the programming cable  
 was interfering with
 the data cable port but I will check that later. For now I can play  
 with the Data part of D-
 STAR

 Rick/WA6ES


 The only radios the programming cable works for sending low-speed  
 data with are the HT's.  (Well, I don't know about the 2820.  I  
 don't have that rig.)

 The programming cable for the ID-800H goes into the SPEAKER  
 connection, the data cable goes into the mini-DIN on the back.

 (In Icom-friendly circles, this is known as a pain in the ass.  In  
 non-Icom friendly circles, this is known as crappy design.)

 Either way, you have to carry TWO cables to do stuff with an  
 ID-800H.  If you have a GPS that expects to be plugged into a DTE  
 device (like a PC), gender benders and/or a null modem adapter or  
 a THIRD cable must be utilized to send GPS direct into the rig,  
 since the normal serial cable for the rig is wired up to go from a  
 DTE device (PC) to the rig (DCE).

 (I have an old Garmin GPS V that the factory cable is wired to plug  
 directly into a PC serial port (DTE), and I have a cable locally  
 made that connects the mini-DIN on the ID-800H to a PC (DTE) also.
 The TX/RX have to be rolled for the GPS to go direct to the rig.  I  
 leave an appropriate gender bender and null modem adapter on the GPS  
 and I can just swap the cable coming off the rig between that  
 connection and the back of a PC (or a PC USB serial adapter) with no  
 other changes.)

 Checklist:

 In the Set menu, GPS must be OFF.
 In the Set menu, the data transmit mode must be Auto, not PTT.
 In the power-up holding Set menu, the Data Speed must be noted (you  
 can select 4800 baud or 9600 baud - in my case, my old GPS is 4800,  
 so I leave it on 4800 and adjust other software appropriately).
 Low speed data MUST be sent through the appropriate pins on the mini- 
 DIN connector.

 I just went through this again tonight, scratching my head wondering  
 why the rig wouldn't transmit, until I remembered I had programmed  
 GPS ON via the programming software and the OTHER cable.

 --
 Nate Duehr, WY0X
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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