RE: [DX-NEWS] P5
Maybe you should return your P5/4L4FN QSL card! Bernie McClenny, W3UR Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up with the DX news from around the globe! Editor of - The Daily DX -- two free weeks http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm - The Weekly DX -- free sample http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html - How's DX http://www.dailydx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mome Z32ZM Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 22:20 To: NJDXA DXR Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] P5 HI OC FRED, You touch the main point (and mni others on QAP too). Just to remaind all DX'ers here: YT1AD-Hrane YU7AV-Vojo been in P5 at the time when P5/4L4FN was active. But, ED was not active at all, when this two verry good frends of mine been in his local, He just deseappear so that AD AV was not eable to see him or his permition licence even the antenna was down , (some R7 or R-7000) AD AV , HAVE a radio-amateur licence to operate from P5, but not the military permition to transmit from P5...so, as everybody know this DXPN finished as Touristic-one. Any way, its verry dificult to think about the things like P5/4L4FN vs P5A 7O1YGF vs 7O/OH2YY. which unfortenetely happend Stay Tuned on SIX !!! 73,GLDX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM http://www.qsl.net/z32zm -- From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] KH8ZM Date: Saturday, March 05, 2005 21:35 PM No Tom. P5 - No written permission, legal in the country accepted by DXCC without any papers. 7O1YGF - As far as I know they presented written permission they was there invited by local authorities. Not accepted by DXCC because written permission was signed by the wrong person I don't think a large group of operators (experiented ops with already several expeditions to a lot of spots around the world) can enter in a country like 7O without any authorization and operate for a week. If they was invited to stop the operation and leave the country, THE SAME THING HAPPENNED TO THE P5 OPERATOR ! If P5 was accepted without any papers why 7O1YGF wasn't accepted too with or without papers ??? I'm inclined to agree with Mal when he said: The ARRL criteria is wholly solely based on who is/is not asking for the change.(period) Or in other words for the friends the haven; for the others the hell ... BTW if I'm wrong please show me the point ! Fred - PY7ZZ -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --
Re: [DX-NEWS] P5
1. Many of the existing entities are historical. A complete restructure of the DXCC list would be confusing and bring discredit to the whole set up. 2. Adding new entities to DXCC will make it like IOTA - you will never have anything to aim for because the list is ever growing. 3. If you've worked all the existing entities, well done. There are plenty more challenges in ham radio. Tried QRP DXCC? 4. Its only a hobby, don't get so worked up. If you're bored, find another interest. So, let go back on the begining: KH8SI vs other similars at present time (OH0,OJ0,R1MV,GD,GU,1A,etc...) IF other obeid rules to be DELETED then KH8SI is not new-one (is about 230 km from main land) - But If others stay on the list then KH8SI-Swain island MUST be NEW-ONE. By the LAW of DEMOCRACY, ALL of them must be equal to the present rules at the time. By now, deleting of some entities was only because of political changes, but not by any other criteria !!! -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --
Re: [DX-NEWS] P5
Forwarded to DX-CHAT for continued discussion If approve truth that P5/4L4FN operation was ILEGAL without papers, -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --
RE: [DX-NEWS] P5
I would like to make an observation about IOTA: It is NOT ever growing. There are only 1200 islands/island groups on the list. Some islands/island groups are yet to be activated and therefore do not have a number. Eventually, someone will be able to visit all of the islands never activated and theoretically your score could be 1200 (actually somewhat less since some islands/island groups have been deleted and will not be replaced. Your awards are at the 100 thru 700 level, Plaque of Excellence at 750, and the Thousand Islands Trophy which I hope to live long enough to earn. Get a copy of the RSGB IOTA Directory and become acquainted with the rules, see photos of the awards and trophies, and a list of qualifying islands/island groups. 73, Harry IOTA 700 plus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G4IRN Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 19:44 To: Mome Z32ZM; NJDXA DXR Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] P5 1. Many of the existing entities are historical. A complete restructure of the DXCC list would be confusing and bring discredit to the whole set up. 2. Adding new entities to DXCC will make it like IOTA - you will never have anything to aim for because the list is ever growing. 3. If you've worked all the existing entities, well done. There are plenty more challenges in ham radio. Tried QRP DXCC? 4. Its only a hobby, don't get so worked up. If you're bored, find another interest. So, let go back on the begining: KH8SI vs other similars at present time (OH0,OJ0,R1MV,GD,GU,1A,etc...) IF other obeid rules to be DELETED then KH8SI is not new-one (is about 230 km from main land) - But If others stay on the list then KH8SI-Swain island MUST be NEW-ONE. By the LAW of DEMOCRACY, ALL of them must be equal to the present rules at the time. By now, deleting of some entities was only because of political changes, but not by any other criteria !!! -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --
RE: [DX-NEWS] P5
Note the CAPS LETS REPEAT THIS ONE LAST TIME AND I'LL TYPE SLOW SO EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING WRITTEN. This thread is over on this reflector. I agree with all who have complained about holding their typing fingers and responding through the reflector, please note it was appreciated. To all those that can't or won't head the requests will be moved to the Digest format where they'll be able to see all the previous 24 hours posts but be unable to post themselves. This is now the 3rd or 4th request I have made to be condiserate, my patience is at an end If you want to continue this on our DX-CHAT, then do so I would like to make an observation about IOTA: Now back to Upper andd lower case as the need sees fit I remain as always, though a little more frazzled 73, Steven - KF2TI Systems Administrator NJDXA DXR Reflector outgoing mail scanned with Norton's NAV2005 -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --