Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[Bob, N5RP]

I agree,  as well.
DX4WIN is great, as is, now that the new modes are recognized.
N5RP
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> On Dec 10, 2017, at 08:58, PY2YP  wrote:
> 
> I've also pondered a lot about this and agree with you Zoran. The DX4WIN is 
> just great as it is. It only lacks an integration with WSJT in my opinion.
> 
> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
> 
>> On 20/11/2017 19:16, WA7AA wrote:
>>> On 20-Nov-17 12:27, Chris Sauvageot wrote:
>>> Bruce, give my regards to your friend at ARRL and say him he has mayne no 
>>> idea of modern data management and IT.
>>> 
>>> I think he his not involed in database operation/programming. If he want 
>>> learn a bit then he can contact Michael from Clublog and ask him how he 
>>> solve this as a private person with much less money the the rich ARRL DXCC.
>>> 
>>> As i told before, many progs doit and i never have read or seen any comment 
>>> agaist from ARRL
>> I've been reading comments like this with interest and I have to ask: what 
>> is so great about instant background LOTW uploads and downloads? I may be 
>> old school but I fail to see the big advantage of giving two pieces of 
>> software (not only on the user's end, but on the ARRL end) a complete 
>> control of overwriting my log without my knowledge, especially considering 
>> the complete failure of the TQSL and LOTW software to institute station 
>> information validity check (incorrect CQ, ITU zones, grids, IOTAs, etc).
>> I hope DX4Win never turns into another iTunes garbage interface with their 
>> "libraries", "syncing", inability to tell what file is where and auto 
>> downloads and deletes.
>> But that's just my opinion.
>> 73,
>> Zoran WA7AA
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Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[PY2YP]

I've also pondered a lot about this and agree with you Zoran. The DX4WIN 
is just great as it is. It only lacks an integration with WSJT in my 
opinion.


73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar

On 20/11/2017 19:16, WA7AA wrote:

On 20-Nov-17 12:27, Chris Sauvageot wrote:

Bruce, give my regards to your friend at ARRL and say him he has mayne 
no idea of modern data management and IT.


I think he his not involed in database operation/programming. If he 
want learn a bit then he can contact Michael from Clublog and ask him 
how he solve this as a private person with much less money the the 
rich ARRL DXCC.


As i told before, many progs doit and i never have read or seen any 
comment agaist from ARRL


I've been reading comments like this with interest and I have to ask: 
what is so great about instant background LOTW uploads and downloads? I 
may be old school but I fail to see the big advantage of giving two 
pieces of software (not only on the user's end, but on the ARRL end) a 
complete control of overwriting my log without my knowledge, especially 
considering the complete failure of the TQSL and LOTW software to 
institute station information validity check (incorrect CQ, ITU zones, 
grids, IOTAs, etc).


I hope DX4Win never turns into another iTunes garbage interface with 
their "libraries", "syncing", inability to tell what file is where and 
auto downloads and deletes.


But that's just my opinion.

73,

Zoran WA7AA
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Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[ON4AOI]

I totally agree Zoran
There will be plenty garbage uploaded 
Example 
What If I know a future expedition 
That want be mapped correct?
I fill it in save it . oeps its already uploaded before
I even can delete from my log.

Via eqsl you get sometimes 2 eqsls one for the start time and one for the
end time (: 




Guy ON4AOI  



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On 20-Nov-17 12:27, Chris Sauvageot wrote:

> Bruce, give my regards to your friend at ARRL and say him he has mayne 
> no idea of modern data management and IT.
>
> I think he his not involed in database operation/programming. If he 
> want learn a bit then he can contact Michael from Clublog and ask him 
> how he solve this as a private person with much less money the the 
> rich ARRL DXCC.
>
> As i told before, many progs doit and i never have read or seen any 
> comment agaist from ARRL

I've been reading comments like this with interest and I have to ask: 
what is so great about instant background LOTW uploads and downloads? I may
be old school but I fail to see the big advantage of giving two pieces of
software (not only on the user's end, but on the ARRL end) a complete
control of overwriting my log without my knowledge, especially considering
the complete failure of the TQSL and LOTW software to institute station
information validity check (incorrect CQ, ITU zones, grids, IOTAs, etc).

I hope DX4Win never turns into another iTunes garbage interface with their
"libraries", "syncing", inability to tell what file is where and auto
downloads and deletes.

But that's just my opinion.

73,

Zoran WA7AA
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Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

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On 20-Nov-17 12:27, Chris Sauvageot wrote:

Bruce, give my regards to your friend at ARRL and say him he has mayne 
no idea of modern data management and IT.


I think he his not involed in database operation/programming. If he 
want learn a bit then he can contact Michael from Clublog and ask him 
how he solve this as a private person with much less money the the 
rich ARRL DXCC.


As i told before, many progs doit and i never have read or seen any 
comment agaist from ARRL


I've been reading comments like this with interest and I have to ask: 
what is so great about instant background LOTW uploads and downloads? I 
may be old school but I fail to see the big advantage of giving two 
pieces of software (not only on the user's end, but on the ARRL end) a 
complete control of overwriting my log without my knowledge, especially 
considering the complete failure of the TQSL and LOTW software to 
institute station information validity check (incorrect CQ, ITU zones, 
grids, IOTAs, etc).


I hope DX4Win never turns into another iTunes garbage interface with 
their "libraries", "syncing", inability to tell what file is where and 
auto downloads and deletes.


But that's just my opinion.

73,

Zoran WA7AA
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Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[Chris Sauvageot]

Bruce, give my regards to your friend at ARRL and say him he has mayne 
no idea of modern data management and IT.


I think he his not involed in database operation/programming. If he want 
learn a bit then he can contact Michael from Clublog and ask him how he 
solve this as a private person with much less money the the rich ARRL DXCC.


As i told before, many progs doit and i never have read or seen any 
comment agaist from ARRL


73 Chris


Am 20.11.2017 um 20:47 schrieb Bruce Blackley:

Food for thought.



I spoke to a friend of mine at the ARRL about logging programs that upload
to LoTW after every contact.  He told me that he wished that they wouldn't
do that.  He said that it over worked the servers at the ARRL and kept them
very busy.  He said that he would prefer people to save up several contacts
and then upload them all at once.  Just an observation from the other side.



73



Bruce



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Re: [Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[kostas sv1dpi]

ARRL servers seem to have big problems. Tell them to buy clublog 
servers. It's pitty but the difference is like day and night. It is 
unacceptable to have such problems. But this is another reflector's story...


73 Kostas SV1DPI

Στις 20/11/2017 21:47, ο Bruce Blackley έγραψε:

Food for thought.



I spoke to a friend of mine at the ARRL about logging programs that upload
to LoTW after every contact.  He told me that he wished that they wouldn't
do that.  He said that it over worked the servers at the ARRL and kept them
very busy.  He said that he would prefer people to save up several contacts
and then upload them all at once.  Just an observation from the other side.



73



Bruce



WD4LBR

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[Dx4win] Dx4win] Update DX4Win from LOTW

[Bruce Blackley]

Food for thought.



I spoke to a friend of mine at the ARRL about logging programs that upload
to LoTW after every contact.  He told me that he wished that they wouldn't
do that.  He said that it over worked the servers at the ARRL and kept them
very busy.  He said that he would prefer people to save up several contacts
and then upload them all at once.  Just an observation from the other side.



73



Bruce



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