Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[ON4AOI]

Hi Paul,
I explain some more,
All the programs are starting from WSJT-X (author K1JT) open source and
Make different screens etc. BUT they all use the same HAMLIB rigfiles. 
For instance Yaesu FT-817ND - FT857 - FT897 are not working with these hamlib 
rigfiles
After I complained so many times they finally will look into it deeper.

Check WSJT-X webpage also problems

   Release: WSJT-X 2.1.2
 November 26, 2019
   -

WSJT-X 2.1.2 is a bug fix only release which fixes a major regression
in the Hamlib package bundled with WSJT-X v2.1.1. 

This was for ICOM radio problems

 
   Release: WSJT-X 2.1.1
 November 25, 2019
   -
   
WSJT-X 2.1.1 is a bug fix only release addressing regressions in the
prior v2.1.0 release.

All new radio's are not direct compatible with these third party hamlib files 
so can't work either

This is my point Paul, when you have a rig that works with these hamlib files 
it's ok.
But when it doesn't work and have to wait until they fix it or make a driver 
for it 
You have a problem, If Radio is not connected it can broadcast wrong data to 
DX4WIN.
At this point it's your own mistake and you can correct b4 upload. 
But If it gets automatically uploaded on LoTW etc some could or will write
this garbage is sended out by DX4WIN users .. 

 
Guy  

-Original Message-
From: Paul GRANGER  
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 3:14 PM
To: ON4AOI ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win' 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Updates

Hi Guy, Hi all
I am not a specialist, but what is the problem when the FT8 (to make it
short) programs get the frequency from the rig (therefore is correct), logs it 
into the adif file that everyboidy knows about, and DX4Win can "eat" that 
informlation automatically ?
I see no room for mistakes...
Well, I must admit I see no way how you can make a mistake using ythose 
programs and call o the wrong period, like several people have done. If yoy 
doucble-click on the station you want to call, there is no way you can do a 
mistake,... Anyway, this is another matter...
Which other programs do not have the UDP broadcast ? Anyone here using them ? 
Or just the 3 you mentioned ?

If people's logs have mistakes, whether they auto-upload or they upload later, 
they will both carry the error

My 3 cents !
73
Paul F6EXV

Le 12/01/2020 à 14:13, ON4AOI a écrit :
> Paul (F6EXV) and others HNY 2020,
> Concerning your wish list I have some serious doubts if this be a full 
> idiot prove upgrade.
> With the option "Enable logged contact ADIF broadcast" Paul, I should 
> write the program"DX4WIN" can listen to the UDP broadcasts when using 
> the latest versions of WSJT-X - MHSV - JTDX and log that contact.
> - But what about WSJT or other programs without this option that users 
> may use ?
> - These programs depend on Hamlib radiofiles and I know 100% sure 
> there are Rigs that are not supported or give errors all the time.
> - In this case you have to disable your rig and use the program like 
> it is except for fox-hunt it will work ok, but when you change bands 
> and forget to change to the correct band your log will be incorrect.
> That's why I have been always against auto upload to LoTW-eQSL-Clublog
>
> "IF" Auto upload to LoTW- eQSL - Clublog would be a fact "THEN"  it 
> will create so much garbage and keeping those servers busy all the 
> time like It is already with eQSL.
> Daily I get wrong eQSL's in my inbox, most of the time its wrong band 
> or mode
>
> My point is that grabbing broadcasts from the UDP server and log it 
> would be a nice feature but Never auto upload like some other programs 
> do and create massive garbage.
>
> Manually creating LoTW etc uploads doesn't consume that much time and 
> in case something is wrong With your log you normally will see it b4 
> you upload.
>
> My 2 cents
> Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  
> On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:20 PM
> To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
>
> Hi all
> To the developper team,
> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to 
> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to 
> ClubLog, automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with 
> other logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something 
> equivalent be expected ?
>
> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be 
> imlemented.
>
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
> _

Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Paul GRANGER]

Hi Guy, Hi all
I am not a specialist, but what is the problem when the FT8 (to make it 
short) programs get the frequency from the rig (therefore is correct), 
logs it into the adif file that everyboidy knows about, and DX4Win can 
"eat" that informlation automatically ?
I see no room for mistakes...
Well, I must admit I see no way how you can make a mistake using ythose 
programs and call o the wrong period, like several people have done. If 
yoy doucble-click on the station you want to call, there is no way you 
can do a mistake,... Anyway, this is another matter...
Which other programs do not have the UDP broadcast ? Anyone here using 
them ? Or just the 3 you mentioned ?

If people's logs have mistakes, whether they auto-upload or they upload 
later, they will both carry the error

My 3 cents !
73
Paul F6EXV

Le 12/01/2020 à 14:13, ON4AOI a écrit :
> Paul (F6EXV) and others HNY 2020,
> Concerning your wish list I have some serious doubts if this be a full idiot
> prove upgrade.
> With the option "Enable logged contact ADIF broadcast" Paul, I should write
> the program"DX4WIN" can listen
> to the UDP broadcasts when using the latest versions of WSJT-X - MHSV - JTDX
> and log that contact.
> - But what about WSJT or other programs without this option that users may
> use ?
> - These programs depend on Hamlib radiofiles and I know 100% sure there are
> Rigs that are not supported
> or give errors all the time.
> - In this case you have to disable your rig and use the program like it is
> except for fox-hunt it will work ok,
> but when you change bands and forget to change to the correct band your log
> will be incorrect.
> That's why I have been always against auto upload to LoTW-eQSL-Clublog
>
> "IF" Auto upload to LoTW- eQSL - Clublog would be a fact
> "THEN"  it will create so much garbage and keeping those servers busy all
> the time
> like It is already with eQSL.
> Daily I get wrong eQSL's in my inbox, most of the time its wrong band or
> mode
>
> My point is that grabbing broadcasts from the UDP server and log it would be
> a nice feature
> but
> Never auto upload like some other programs do and create massive garbage.
>
> Manually creating LoTW etc uploads doesn't consume that much time and in
> case something is wrong
> With your log you normally will see it b4 you upload.
>
> My 2 cents
> Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:20 PM
> To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
>
> Hi all
> To the developper team,
> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to ClubLog,
> automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
> logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
> expected ?
>
> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> imlemented.
>
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[ON4AOI]

Paul (F6EXV) and others HNY 2020,
Concerning your wish list I have some serious doubts if this be a full idiot
prove upgrade. 
With the option "Enable logged contact ADIF broadcast" Paul, I should write
the program"DX4WIN" can listen
to the UDP broadcasts when using the latest versions of WSJT-X - MHSV - JTDX
and log that contact.
- But what about WSJT or other programs without this option that users may
use ?
- These programs depend on Hamlib radiofiles and I know 100% sure there are
Rigs that are not supported
or give errors all the time.
- In this case you have to disable your rig and use the program like it is
except for fox-hunt it will work ok,
but when you change bands and forget to change to the correct band your log
will be incorrect.
That's why I have been always against auto upload to LoTW-eQSL-Clublog  

"IF" Auto upload to LoTW- eQSL - Clublog would be a fact 
"THEN"  it will create so much garbage and keeping those servers busy all
the time 
like It is already with eQSL.
Daily I get wrong eQSL's in my inbox, most of the time its wrong band or
mode

My point is that grabbing broadcasts from the UDP server and log it would be
a nice feature
but 
Never auto upload like some other programs do and create massive garbage.

Manually creating LoTW etc uploads doesn't consume that much time and in
case something is wrong
With your log you normally will see it b4 you upload.

My 2 cents
Guy ON4AOI - OT7K

  


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:20 PM
To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
Subject: [Dx4win] Updates

Hi all
To the developper team,
Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to ClubLog,
automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
expected ?

I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
imlemented.

73
Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Raymundo Rodriguez]

> I agree to Paul, Ricardo, Joe, Hamad, etc. about the FT8 update. It could be 
> nice to have.

Raymundo Rodriguez - YS1RR, 
Ingeniero Industrial, mba 

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> El ene. 11, 2020, a la(s) 5:30 a. m., Ricardo Navarrete 
>  escribió:
> 
> Totally agree It coul be a great update!!!
> 
> 
> 
> El sáb., 11 ene. 2020 9:28, Hamad 9K2HN <9k...@9k2hn.com> escribió:
> 
>> I totally agree, and i hope to see this new features soon in dx4win
>> 
>> de 9K2HN
>> Hamad
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 09:12 OZ0J Joe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I agree to Paul about the issues mentioned below. It could be nice to
>> have
>>> these services implemented.
>>> 
>>> 73 Joe, OZ0J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>> Fra: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  På
>>> vegne af n...@vci.net
>>> Sendt: 10. januar 2020 00:34
>>> Til: 'Paul GRANGER' ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win'
>>> 
>>> Emne: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
>>> 
>>> Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
>>> WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Dave, N4QS
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
>>> Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
>>> To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
>>> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> To the developper team,
>>> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
>>> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
>>> ClubLog,
>>> automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
>>> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with
>> other
>>> logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent
>> be
>>> expected ?
>>> 
>>> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
>>> imlemented.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Ricardo Navarrete]

Totally agree It coul be a great update!!!



El sáb., 11 ene. 2020 9:28, Hamad 9K2HN <9k...@9k2hn.com> escribió:

> I totally agree, and i hope to see this new features soon in dx4win
>
> de 9K2HN
> Hamad
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 09:12 OZ0J Joe  wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I agree to Paul about the issues mentioned below. It could be nice to
> have
> > these services implemented.
> >
> > 73 Joe, OZ0J
> >
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  På
> > vegne af n...@vci.net
> > Sendt: 10. januar 2020 00:34
> > Til: 'Paul GRANGER' ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win'
> > 
> > Emne: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
> >
> > Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
> > WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave, N4QS
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> > Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
> > To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
> > Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
> >
> > Hi all
> > To the developper team,
> > Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> > interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
> > ClubLog,
> > automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> > LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with
> other
> > logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent
> be
> > expected ?
> >
> > I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> > imlemented.
> >
> > 73
> > Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Hamad 9K2HN]

I totally agree, and i hope to see this new features soon in dx4win

de 9K2HN
Hamad

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 09:12 OZ0J Joe  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I agree to Paul about the issues mentioned below. It could be nice to have
> these services implemented.
>
> 73 Joe, OZ0J
>
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  På
> vegne af n...@vci.net
> Sendt: 10. januar 2020 00:34
> Til: 'Paul GRANGER' ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win'
> 
> Emne: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
>
> Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
> WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, N4QS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
> To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
>
> Hi all
> To the developper team,
> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
> ClubLog,
> automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
> logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
> expected ?
>
> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> imlemented.
>
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[OZ0J Joe]

Hi

I agree to Paul about the issues mentioned below. It could be nice to have
these services implemented.

73 Joe, OZ0J


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Emne: Re: [Dx4win] Updates

Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.

73,

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
Subject: [Dx4win] Updates

Hi all
To the developper team,
Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to ClubLog,
automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
expected ?

I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
imlemented.

73
Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[n4qs]

Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.

73,

Dave, N4QS

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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
To: REFLECTOR dx4win 
Subject: [Dx4win] Updates

Hi all
To the developper team,
Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to ClubLog,
automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
expected ?

I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
imlemented.

73
Paul F6EXV
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates on the updates !?

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Bob, N5RP wrote:
> Well,
> I run 9.0.3.1160, and that is that !!
> Anything later eludes me.
>
> Somehow, I found:
> http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/

That is not the right way.

Have you tried Help | Check for Updates?

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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Tod]

I think that some of the postings with the subject Updates should really be 
posted with the subject  Additional features I wish were present.


DX4Win started as a logging program as I recall. Operating was up to the person 
who had the amateur license; logging the QSO'S that resulted from the 
operating was the job of the program.

 Over time the intellectual property owner has chosen to add features and 
present new Versions for sale. Some of the added features happen to relate to 
operating things rather than logging of QSO's.

As purchasers and users all we can properly expect is that the features 
declared to be in the Version we purchased work as they are defined to work for 
the equipment environment for which they are declared to be functional. That 
implies that new radios , new rotators or new COM to USB devices are not 
explicitly supported. If the IP owner chooses to modify the Version to expand 
the supported equipment environment, great. The same thing is true for 
logging/operating features. If the IP owner chooses to add them, fine.

It seems a bit unreasonable to use the product user reflector to 'bad mouth' 
the IP owner. 

Of course there is nothing wrong with making suggestions that the product 
planner can consider when ( and if ) a new product or new version is being 
planned. Commenting on what you wish was present or even identifying an 
alternate product that has a feature you 'wish' was present seems reasonable. 

Building a list of features that users wish were present seems reasonable 
too; particularly if maintenance of such a listing is not expected to be the 
job of the IP owner. It would be even nicer if someone had that list on a web 
site so it could be referenced by people. That might reduce duplicate postings 
about certain  not present yet features. 

One of 'The Laws of Life is:

Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the one who has to do the work.

Tod, K0TO



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 1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to my rig at 
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 2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
 3. Easy way to add mode names myself
 
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[n4dsp]

Paul should put a link on the DX4WIN website for owner's to contribute 
their idea's to the Wish List.


I sent an email to Paul 2-3 weeks ago with a suggestion and did not 
receive a response so I resorted

to the DX4WIN Reflector to BE HEARD.

Requesting some attention from the owner's of DX4WIN, the people who 
support the Owner, asking for

continuing improvements is not bad mouthing just to clarify.




On 1/5/2014 12:26 PM, Tod wrote:

I think that some of the postings with the subject Updates should really be posted with the 
subject  Additional features I wish were present.


DX4Win started as a logging program as I recall. Operating was up to the person who had 
the amateur license; logging the QSO'S that resulted from the operating was 
the job of the program.

  Over time the intellectual property owner has chosen to add features and 
present new Versions for sale. Some of the added features happen to relate to 
operating things rather than logging of QSO's.

As purchasers and users all we can properly expect is that the features 
declared to be in the Version we purchased work as they are defined to work for 
the equipment environment for which they are declared to be functional. That 
implies that new radios , new rotators or new COM to USB devices are not 
explicitly supported. If the IP owner chooses to modify the Version to expand 
the supported equipment environment, great. The same thing is true for 
logging/operating features. If the IP owner chooses to add them, fine.

It seems a bit unreasonable to use the product user reflector to 'bad mouth' 
the IP owner.

Of course there is nothing wrong with making suggestions that the product 
planner can consider when ( and if ) a new product or new version is being 
planned. Commenting on what you wish was present or even identifying an 
alternate product that has a feature you 'wish' was present seems reasonable.

Building a list of features that users wish were present seems reasonable too; 
particularly if maintenance of such a listing is not expected to be the job of the IP owner. It 
would be even nicer if someone had that list on a web site so it could be referenced by people. 
That might reduce duplicate postings about certain  not present yet features.

One of 'The Laws of Life is:

Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the one who has to do the work.

Tod, K0TO



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Important to me:

1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to my rig at 
the same time.
2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
3. Easy way to add mode names myself

Ernie W8EH

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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Lou Dietrich]

All,

Great...I think a wish list web page might be a good idea

If the wish list is not acted upon by the developer, will it do any 
good?as some have posted, the author of this software has decided 
not to respond to emails and this groupand therefore the wish list 
web page may just route to the developer's trash bin...and for our own 
edification.


Not to be overly critical here...but that seems to be the situation we 
are in with DX4WIN


As users, we have bought this software, not only for what was initially 
developed,  but for continuing support. In today's world, a logging 
program should do more than just loggingIf we only expected an 
initial release feature package without support, we would be using 
DX4WIN to control aged rigs and logging basic DXCC awards!


Develop a web page...and have it ignoredwrite directly to the 
developer and have it ignored or move off to another platform and 
tell everyone within ear shot why we did it...those are our choices.


Let's face facts here...

Tod, nice adageNothing is impossible as long as you are not the one 
who has to do the work. Tod, this should be restatedNothing IS 
possible as long as you chose NOT to do the work.. That is the 
situation here...the author has chosen NOT to do the work...


73

Lou N2TU


On 1/5/2014 12:44 PM, n4dsp wrote:


Paul should put a link on the DX4WIN website for owner's to contribute 
their idea's to the Wish List.


I sent an email to Paul 2-3 weeks ago with a suggestion and did not 
receive a response so I resorted

to the DX4WIN Reflector to BE HEARD.

Requesting some attention from the owner's of DX4WIN, the people who 
support the Owner, asking for

continuing improvements is not bad mouthing just to clarify.




On 1/5/2014 12:26 PM, Tod wrote:
I think that some of the postings with the subject Updates should 
really be posted with the subject  Additional features I wish were 
present.



DX4Win started as a logging program as I recall. Operating was up to 
the person who had the amateur license; logging the QSO'S that 
resulted from the operating was the job of the program.


  Over time the intellectual property owner has chosen to add 
features and present new Versions for sale. Some of the added 
features happen to relate to operating things rather than logging of 
QSO's.


As purchasers and users all we can properly expect is that the 
features declared to be in the Version we purchased work as they are 
defined to work for the equipment environment for which they are 
declared to be functional. That implies that new radios , new 
rotators or new COM to USB devices are not explicitly supported. If 
the IP owner chooses to modify the Version to expand the supported 
equipment environment, great. The same thing is true for 
logging/operating features. If the IP owner chooses to add them, fine.


It seems a bit unreasonable to use the product user reflector to 
'bad mouth' the IP owner.


Of course there is nothing wrong with making suggestions that the 
product planner can consider when ( and if ) a new product or new 
version is being planned. Commenting on what you wish was present or 
even identifying an alternate product that has a feature you 'wish' 
was present seems reasonable.


Building a list of features that users wish were present seems 
reasonable too; particularly if maintenance of such a listing is not 
expected to be the job of the IP owner. It would be even nicer if 
someone had that list on a web site so it could be referenced by 
people. That might reduce duplicate postings about certain  not 
present yet features.


One of 'The Laws of Life is:

Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the one who has to do 
the work.


Tod, K0TO



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Important to me:

1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to 
my rig at the same time.

2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
3. Easy way to add mode names myself

Ernie W8EH

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Re: [Dx4win] Updates

[Barry]

Well said, Lou.

I am another early adopter of DX4WIN, from back in the early days of 
Windows (3.1?)  I started with DXLOG (for DOS) and after a number of 
empty promises of a Win version from its developer (who lived 5 miles 
from me at the time), I switched to DX4WIN.


There are things DX4WIN could do better and more efficiently.  The only 
reason I'm still with it is I don't actively chase awards or (paper) 
QSLs any more.  If I did, I would have jumped ship a number of years 
ago.  And if it weren't for AD1C's generous support, I don't believe 
there would be many users left today.


Barry W2UP

On 1/5/2014 11:45, Lou Dietrich wrote:

All,

Great...I think a wish list web page might be a good idea

If the wish list is not acted upon by the developer, will it do any 
good?as some have posted, the author of this software has decided 
not to respond to emails and this groupand therefore the wish list 
web page may just route to the developer's trash bin...and for our own 
edification.


Not to be overly critical here...but that seems to be the situation we 
are in with DX4WIN


As users, we have bought this software, not only for what was 
initially developed,  but for continuing support. In today's world, a 
logging program should do more than just loggingIf we only 
expected an initial release feature package without support, we would 
be using DX4WIN to control aged rigs and logging basic DXCC awards!


Develop a web page...and have it ignoredwrite directly to the 
developer and have it ignored or move off to another platform and 
tell everyone within ear shot why we did it...those are our choices.


Let's face facts here...

Tod, nice adageNothing is impossible as long as you are not the 
one who has to do the work. Tod, this should be restatedNothing 
IS possible as long as you chose NOT to do the work.. That is the 
situation here...the author has chosen NOT to do the work...


73

Lou N2TU


On 1/5/2014 12:44 PM, n4dsp wrote:


Paul should put a link on the DX4WIN website for owner's to 
contribute their idea's to the Wish List.


I sent an email to Paul 2-3 weeks ago with a suggestion and did not 
receive a response so I resorted

to the DX4WIN Reflector to BE HEARD.

Requesting some attention from the owner's of DX4WIN, the people who 
support the Owner, asking for

continuing improvements is not bad mouthing just to clarify.




On 1/5/2014 12:26 PM, Tod wrote:
I think that some of the postings with the subject Updates should 
really be posted with the subject  Additional features I wish were 
present.



DX4Win started as a logging program as I recall. Operating was up to 
the person who had the amateur license; logging the QSO'S that 
resulted from the operating was the job of the program.


  Over time the intellectual property owner has chosen to add 
features and present new Versions for sale. Some of the added 
features happen to relate to operating things rather than logging of 
QSO's.


As purchasers and users all we can properly expect is that the 
features declared to be in the Version we purchased work as they are 
defined to work for the equipment environment for which they are 
declared to be functional. That implies that new radios , new 
rotators or new COM to USB devices are not explicitly supported. If 
the IP owner chooses to modify the Version to expand the supported 
equipment environment, great. The same thing is true for 
logging/operating features. If the IP owner chooses to add them, fine.


It seems a bit unreasonable to use the product user reflector to 
'bad mouth' the IP owner.


Of course there is nothing wrong with making suggestions that the 
product planner can consider when ( and if ) a new product or new 
version is being planned. Commenting on what you wish was present or 
even identifying an alternate product that has a feature you 'wish' 
was present seems reasonable.


Building a list of features that users wish were present seems 
reasonable too; particularly if maintenance of such a listing is not 
expected to be the job of the IP owner. It would be even nicer if 
someone had that list on a web site so it could be referenced by 
people. That might reduce duplicate postings about certain  not 
present yet features.


One of 'The Laws of Life is:

Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the one who has to do 
the work.


Tod, K0TO



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Important to me:

1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to 
my rig at the same time.

2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
3. Easy way to add mode names myself

Ernie W8EH

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Re: [Dx4win] Updates - LPB2

[Ernie]

Lou, thanks for the tip about the LPB2 program. I didn't know it was out 
there.


I installed LPB2 and it does exactly what I need it to do. I have it 
running right now with my Yaesu FT-950, DX4Win, HDSDR and N3FJP contest 
program. They all know what the radio is doing now.


Thanks again for the 'tip of the day'.

73 Ernie W8EH


On 1/5/2014 10:59 AM, Lou Dietrich wrote:

Ernie and Group,

I run HDSDR and DX4WIN all the time...simply use LPB2, a free software 
offered by Larry N8LPYou can have HDSDR, DX4WIN, N1MM and anything 
else you want to linked to your rigit works great...


The rest of your post can be added to our joint 'wish list'Hi 
Hi...along with updated rig files or movement to OmniRig...along with 
an update Submission Sheet showing LOTW, Hard QSL or EQSL (EQSL yuck!, 
sorry, editorial comment!)


Even the Report Generator is missing simple drop down indicators under 
Report/ Action, Modes and Bands, showing different selections. This 
was reported and not acted upon by Paul many versions ago...multiple 
rotor controls...two (or more) telnet sessions...WWV numbers on the 
Map Screen or on top of the QSO windows...simple integration of 
digital programs, MMTTY/2Tone, better PSK31 integration...


DX4WIN is a remarkably simple, stable but outdated piece of software. 
Paul did a great job with it many years ago but alas, now it just 
flounders in limbo with little support or enhancement from him. If it 
wasn't for Jim AD1C's tremendous support, I would have moved off this 
archaic platform a long time ago.  There is little or no reason why 
AD1C's enhancements were not embraced, supported and incorporated by 
Paul.


We, dear fellow DX4WIN users, are 'caught' in an trap...move off to 
another and abandon what we have learned ...or stick with DX4WIN and 
hope someone will get this platform back on the track.


Flaming each other does little or nothing to enhance or move this 
topic forward.


73/ Regards

Lou N2TU


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Important to me:

1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to my 
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2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
3. Easy way to add mode names myself

Ernie W8EH

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Re: [Dx4win] Updates to TrustedQSL

[Rick Murphy]

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Mel ve...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Great. I assume this is a beta for what will become the official
 version? I'll give it a try next upload.

It's been through a workout for a couple of weeks now with several
bugs fixed. At this point, I'm looking for more testing before I push
it towards the ARRL as an official release.
73,
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Re: [Dx4win] Updates to the DX Summit address

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

Thanks for the reminder.  Already done and released at least a week ago, 
download DX4WIN.TCP from http://dx4win.ad1c.us/


73 - Jim AD1C

On 11/22/2008 7:19 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG wrote:

Effective Nov 19, the web address has changed.

Jim, I am sure you are already on top of this, I wanted to share with the
group in case they wanted to mod their cluster data file (cannot remember
how to do that, but I saw it in the past and it's not difficult.)

http://www.dxsummit.fi/

Mark Lunday
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