[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold
I remember me suggesting almost this same idea about a year and a half ago... http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09415.html Check out the archives.. it might help the current discussion. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Income tax
There is usually a lot of bashing of taxes on this list but no one is able to suggest a viable alternative. It is silly to argue that government is NOT a necessary to evil because we need some services to be public. Let's take roads for example. If it is not done through the government, usually, people will not build roads because everybody will be waiting for someone else to build it. And once some people do get together to build a road, they will try to limit access to that road to only people that paid for its construction. This would causes hundreds of toll booths to go up, and encourage construction of inefficient detours. Contrary to what has been said, road construction would not be more efficient in the free-market because of the lack of Central planning among other things. Lastly, Taxation is not theft for a few reasons. If you're living in a democracy, then you have the ability to change the current rules. The fact is that the majority of people (through their elected officials) decided that taxes were necessary. The majority of people continue to recognize the need for taxes because of the lack of popular support to change the system. Next, no one is forcing people to live in the US, Europe, or any other country. These countries are like one large deed restricted community, if you don't like the regulations, you can choose to live somewhere else. The value of public services that I have received exceeds the amount that I have paid in taxes. I know I'm about to get a swarm of emails saying You are F***ing wrong but oh-well. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy
Hmmm. 450 to 1453 AD is not exactly known as a time of great progress. It is better known as the dark middle ages. Dark ages in Europe, but a lot of scientific and social advancements were made in the Muslim world during this period. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] New Service - Need testers
Hello, I'm developing a service that produces a Thumbnail of a webpage. This service is currently being used on www.dhund.com. If you run a directory or search engine and want to help me test, please email me. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Danny's 130$
Hello, A PC program's no good to anyone, no one in a web development context ever means, like, a home PC or a mac or a programmable HP calculator ... Actually in this context a program that runs off of a webserver is completely inefficient. If you were trying to crack somebody's e-gold account automatically, you would probably have a program that runs off your PC... because you don't know how much time it will take. For example.. if you wanted to perform a single e-gold spend at a time, you could do it through a web interface.. but if you had a batch of a 1000 spends to do, you would do those through a PC program. I have no idea if your heuristic works, worked, or if any one else got it working, saw it, or anything else but I've no reason to doubt you if you say it works on your PC -- so if you want me to I'm very happy to pay your $100 Danny, since you WON - but you have to tell me your e-gold number! On this note, I can say that I did download the program that Danny Created and it did work quite well. By the way Danny, if you have and images of the old e-gold turing numbers saved, I'll be happy to wrap it with a php script so it can run through the web. You would have to make it a command line program instead, that takes the Image url in as an argument and simply prints out the ascii numbers. I wonder if Jay can provide us with a few of the old e-gold turing numbers. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Transferring Money to Africa
People continue to forget that e-gold or any electro based system cannot thrive in an environment where the internet infrastructure is week. You cannot give e-gold to somebody who does not have the ability to use it. Creating a gold based monetary system in a place like Africa (I'm assuming we are not talking about South Africa) you need two things. 1. You cannot take people who have problems with their countries paper currency and expect them to switch to an electro system. That is like taking a person who has been riding a bike all his life and putting him behind the throttle of a Harrier Jet. Therefore, you must circulate actual hard gold currency. This needs to happen first because people need to once again get used to using gold as money. 2. You have to wait for the commuations and education infrastructures to evolve to the point that people have regular access to computers and they know how to use them. Then you would be able to get them to slowly switch to the electro system. Even in the US, Europe, Korea, and Japan where the internet is readily available we don't see gold based electro currencies taking off because the public is not used to using Gold as money. What we are actually doing is getting people to make two switches. One to use electro currency, and second, to use gold currency. The public may be willing to do one of these at a time, but not both. The first of these is becoming easier to tackle as more and more people pay their bills online, use debit cards, and send wires through online banking. But the second is more difficult. Gold has not been circulated in 100s of years, people are just not used to it. And people do not want to try new things unless there is some superb benefit. Currently, those benefits are just not there. Africa however may find it easier to use gold as money because of its Muslim heritage. Most of the larger economies in Africa are Muslim countries. The recent news coming out of Malaysia seems promising to people that want to see gold circulate. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words
You completely ignored that my primary argument is based on the fact e-gold is descriptive. That's because e-gold is descriptive of exactly ONE company, the one that trademarked both e-gold and egold long ago. If this counts as ignoring your argument, so be it, but your argument flunks the laugh-test IMO!!! I have to disagree with you Jim, The e-anything and eAnything style names are more and more becomming generalized terms to describe anything about the Anything subject that is online. This is like Hormel suing people, because they refer to junk email as SPAM. Also, it seems that the term egold has been trademarked by Resource Holdings, LLC. Is that a GSR affiliated company? (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=5naie7.5.1) Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: arbitrage
Don't get me wrong, but if you had kept the shares wouldn't your profit have been 0.60g? If you buy a share, collect the dividend each month and resell, wouldn't you end up with less grams of profit than if you just keep the share? I think a little thing called Opportunity Loss is acting here. The 0.10g of gold is probably worth what else ISL could be doing with 100 grams for a month. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] ProxyStore now accepts NetPay
Ladies and Gentlemen, Proxy Store is pleased to announce that it now accepts NetPay for payments. Even more reason to shop. http://www.proxystore.com http://www.proxystore.com http://www.proxystore.com http://www.proxystore.com http://www.proxystore.com Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Accessing E-Gold using WAP
Jim, I may not be understanding you correctly here, but you can definitely get a balance with a phone on any phone- enabled account, if you have the passphrase. JMR I think the answer here is yes and no. As far as I am aware, you can do various e-gold things like get a balance, make a spend if you are using an HDML device. Since WAP does not have inherent security (you need to go through a gateway to get SSL) sometimes it will work... and sometimes it will not. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: BananaGold not working?
Not to worry Graham, We (Xivix.net) will be coming out with a solutions soon that will allow you to shop at several online as well as brick and mortal stores using your gold. Stay tuned. Khurram Khan Just when I wanted to buy something at Amazon... I find BananaGold.com is not operational! Waaah! :( GK --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] DGC Bill Pay
Probably the best eCurrency bill pay system out there... Check out the screen shot below: http://www.majestiq.net/pbgshot.gif Where else can you pay all of your bills with just a few clicks of your mouse? Don't need to keep typing in your payee info over and over agian every month, no need to do seperate spends for each payee. Check out http://www.paybygold.com. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: twelve ideas (8 for T)
12. Khurram Khan complains of trademark assignments from GSR to e-gold, Ltd. I think, Khurram, that just because GSR registered the trademarks, they are not necessarily the current owners. Trademarks are property, and if they have assigned those trademarks, or sold them, to e-gold, Ltd., that is well within their authority. Yes Trademarks are property, just like the house you live in and the office you work in. Like buildings, trademarks have an official registry. The name on this registry is the actual entity that owns such property. If these trademarks have been sold to e-gold, Ltd. Then the official registry should reflect these changes. Since, the governing body of said trademarks seems to think that GSR owns them, then GSR does own them. After all, would you buy your house in my name? My point is that the e-gold website was doing fine before they added that line to the bottom on the site. There is already sufficient confusion about the one in the same-ness of e-gold, Ltd. and GSR and this only helps to further that confusion. I consider it a risk to my gold that the e-gold name is actually owned by a second company. Even more than that, I consider it a risk that the access to my gold is actually controlled my a second company that I would rather not have anything to do with. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: trades marks
ask what I would do if the US government was overthrown. I think the odds are a lot better of GSR failing then the government being overthrown. And I'm trying to figure out what I will do when that happens. But, I don't see how your complaint is much more than mere whimsy from the point of view of Doug Jackson, Reid Jackson, Barry Downey, or Jim Ray. I don't think those guys are especially confused about what a government registration is or means. If they take such registration paperwork a bit less seriously than do you, that might be to their credit. They might not be confused but maybe lazy. The e-gold system will be better trusted when they start providing proof for what they put on the website. This trademark issue is just one of the things that are hurting their trustability right now because the statement on the site is just blatantly false. Not to mention the non-existent audits of the numbers provided on the examiner. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] trademarks
Just noticed the following line on the e-gold website: e-gold, e-silver, e-metal, Better Money, AUG, AGG, PTG, PDG, CyberMetal, The Real Gold Card, Real Platinum are trademarks of e-gold Ltd. A quick search on reveals that those trademarks don't belong to e-gold Ltd. But GSR instead. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=fa4067.2.1 Come on Doug and Reid. Whats the point to putting false information on the website? Didn't you guys put a lot of effort into trying to distinguish GSR from e-gold? Makes you wonder what else on there is false? Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Outexchanges
Does any Exchange Providers on this list perform outexchange by sending out a check from either Bank of America, SunTrust, or Wachovia? If so, please contact me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Pecunix website, (and an announcement)
Hello, What we are talking about here is that Pecunix actually has 3 different levels of access. The Full access level allows the account holder to make adjustments to account settings, contact details etc. The Limited access level (recommended -- Quote Rule Breaker for daily use) only allows payments to be made up to a pre-determined daily limit and access to the account history statements. The daily limit is set under full access. Finally there is a read only access level, that allows access only to the account history. This is ideal where businesses need to give access to the account history for bookkeepers etc, who should not have access to funds. This is an excelent idea if I must say so myself. Very often I've run into a problem where I need to hire people to do customer service and need to give them access to payment histories, but can't really let them spend the money thats in that account. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] anybody got some EVOcash
hello, If anybody on this list has about $10 worth of Evocash and is willing to trade for e-gold... please email me. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] FRN vs USN
Hello, Anybody know the difference between the two $2 bills pictured below? One says Federal Reserve Note on it.. and the other says United States Note. The back looks different also. http://www.majestiq.net/front.jpg http://www.majestiq.net/back.jpg Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: PayPalecurrency exchangers?
Guys, Is there any PayPalecureency exchangers out there? I hope not! Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] e-bullion for e-gold trade
Hello, I need about a gram of e-bullion for some testing. I'm willing to trade from e-gold. If you want to trade, please contact me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGold market ?!
JP, Don't you accept OsGold on Banana? What kind of ratio does that use? Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Pd question/contest
Hey Jim, I am interested because I know it's very rare, yet Pd is currently priced at only a bit over Au (also rare, but there's a lot more gold around). I have no idea why their prices do as they do, but seeing numbers on the relative rarity of emetals might be fun. Thanks. JMR In my opinion, the effects of the rarity of a substance on its price is a secondary issue. Price is foremost controlled by whether or not people want it. After all do you really want something only because its rare? Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: spare gold
Hello, Since the trust owns the gold bars for the benefit of the account holders, it means that your e-gold account is roughly 102% backed by gold. No one other than the trust owns the extra gold. But where did the extra gold come from. You can't just create it out of mid-air. Somebody would have to have bailed in a bar and not gotten its full worth in e-gold back. That could be the only explanation. Otherwise, if omnipay bails in a bar of gold that weight 398.76 ounces, they should get that much exactly in e-gold. Unless e-gold charges a fee to bail-in gold. There should be exactly the same amount of gold in reserve as in circulation. One other explanation is that since the bars are 99.99 percent pure, and e-gold is 100 percent pure, there should be 00.01% more gold in reserve then in circulation. However, the gold is reserves is more than this also. Is somebody donating gold to the trust? I wonder how the assets and liabilities section accounts for accounts with negative balances. Say there were three accounts in the system, one with 1.05 gram, the second with 5.43 grams and the third with -2.32 grams. What is the sum of these? Those negative 2.32 should also be counted in circulation for a total of 8.8 grams instead of the arithmatic sum of 4.16 grams. As Jim pointed out, Omnipay has an e-gold account, but e-gold probably doesn't have an e-gold account. Omnipay's e-gold would be included in the figure for all the e-gold on the books. I have no doubt that e-gold also has an e-gold account. Thats where spend and storage fees would go. And e-gold would pay GSR for maintence of the system through that account. Therefore the extra gold is analagous to coins that contain slightly more gold than the face value. I disagree, that coins have extra gold by accident. e-gold is easily divisible and should not have those discrepencies. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Scratch off game
Hey guys, I'm currently working on a little Scratch off lotto game. Would appreciate if some people helped me test it out. You will need the java plug-in in your browser. Each ticket cost 0.25 USD, and the odds of winning are 4 in 10. I would also appreciate some feedback on actual odds of winning scratch offs. The URL is http://www.majestiq.net/scratch/ Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: HYIP's
--- Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like the HYIP's have a real potential to hurt the acceptance of digital gold currencies. Everytime one of these scams gets busted that uses a dgc it gives the whole industry a black eye. Technically that would be what you would expect, but as far as I can see, the ponzi, HYIP activity has only helped the acceptence of DGCs. There is a strong corolation between a new scheme starting up and a surge of e-gold accounts being created. By the way, is there technical difference between a Ponzi scheme, a pyramid scheme and an HYIP? I understand pyramids to work where, you give me a dollar and I'll help you convince ten people to give you a dollar. The system doesn't implode on itself. Pyramids are not all bad. Even e-gold is a small one. Say you buy a book from me for $40, and I say that I'll give you $5 for every person you refer to me. Thats a pyramid, even though it may be legitamite, MLM usually gets a bad name. A lot of people that are involved with these things actually want to be part of it. They understand the risks, and play accordingly. If you're going to shut down all of these, you might as well shut down all casinos that accept DGCs. After all, doesn't the house always win. And at the end of the day, is there a such thing as bad publicity? Khurram Khan 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: trivia question cont.Re: How Penny Per Page Might Work
Trivia question for (at least) a gram! What's the name of the VERY FIRST currency that was based wholly on e-gold, and (this is the hint...) where is it used? First correct answer gets a gram of e-gold! Hmm... lets go with the internal currency of The Gold Casino? Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] great comment on patents
Great! Does anyone happen to have this business plan? It seems to have become something of a cause celebre whether or not e-gold/gsr ever filed for any type of patent! The thing is that any e-based system is so easy to figure out, there is no real need for an offical business plan. Anybody with half a brain and some programming experience can figure out how e-gold/GSR make they're money and program a functional duplicate of e-gold, or any other eCurrency, in about a month. I'm guessing thats why GoldMoney got the patent, because the system is so easy to duplicate that without patent protection, it might not be worth doing. If e-gold is trying to patent something, Good for them! But it seems ironic that first we have a discussion about GM's supposed frivolus patents, and not e-gold is trying to patent the same thing? Perhaps, they are trying to patent some of their trade secrets, if they have any. But again, like I said above, secrets don't exist in the e-world, anybody with half a brain can figure out entire business plans of almost any eBusiness. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this year!
[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold's Mini-Run
--- SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I finally figured out why E-gold has been losing bars while the other GBC have been growing rapidly since the attack. About one half of E-Gold's gold, is in Dubai! How safe will that gold be in the coming months, if the Arab nations become united against the US? Seriously speaking, the odds of this happening are close to Nil. Sometimes I wonder if people are getting completely different news headlines like 2 billion muslims take arms in quest for world domination or Osama Bin Laden deploys 90,000 troops through out the Middle East and North Africa. There is a very simple reason why there has been sale of gold bars. The sept 11 attacks pushed the price of gold up. So the people who had e-gold, including OmniPay and other MMs, and really didn't have a need for holding on to the Gold, probably decided to sell it to make a small profit. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this year!
[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold's Mini-Run
What/where is Dubai? I am lost on this one. I do believe that there is a REAL possibility that the Arab nations will become hostile. Dubai is in the United Arab Emirites (UAE) where part of e-gold's storage of gold is located. Yes there is a possibility of some arab nations becoming hostile like Iran, Syria, and the already hostile Iraq. However, some arab countries have, UAE and Saudi Arabia included, have not been known to be hostile to the US. They may publicly disagree with the US government but have never gone to the extent of freezing all assets of all US individuals and companies. Therefore I do not think that the e-gold Gold is at any more risk now then it was before. I have every reason to think that many Arab nations will quickly break off from the coalition with time, especially when Bush puts it so strongly and from such an ego-based statement, You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. That scares me. I have no doubt that the coalition will fall apart in the future because the US will probably want to attack Iraq. That would count out Russia, China, and France. If e-gold had storage in France, I don't think that the gold would be at any more risk that it was before. Even though UAE is in the middle east, its people are different from some of the other nations because they are richer. Poverty usually creats the perfect recruitment enviornment for any extreme right or left notions. I don't know your belief system Khurram, but mine is based on cause and effect... what you reap you sow, what goes around comes around. So is mine, but I also like to look at the history of the situation. I must also add that I was speaking only for the additional risk that may be attached to the gold storage in Dubai because of recent events. I hope we can do something about terrorism and create peace. Violence is not the answer to violence. I don't know where you live, but this is scary because you just don't know what will be next. I guess that's why they call it terrorism. :-) I live in US, the incredibally hot state of Florida. and I think I know atleast as much as any other american because we get bombarded by it 24/7. Plus my Pakistani background adds to the perspective. Khurram Khan Have a good day... and PEACE! Victoria == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this year!
[e-gold-list] Re: against rationalism
As much as I would like to respond to your utterly ignorant and uneducated comment. I will be the bigger man and stop in favor of Jim's blood pressure. Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: White people were not DANCING IN THE STREETS CELEBRATING btw... look it up and I would just like to say that if you want to illiminate all muslims from the face of the earth (this was what you implied in you disagreement with todd a couple of posts ago) there are 2 billion of us. One of three people is a muslim, just think of what kind of effect that would have on your economy. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Re: against rationalism
At 04:43 PM 9/12/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Essentially half the world missed out on the Enlightenment Death to all tribailists -- save us the nuisance by slaughtering them now. Oh JP... I wonder if you said the same thing when the building in Oklahoma city was bombed, I wonder if you said Death to all white people? I wonder if you said the same thing the day a country killed millions of civilians in one day, think hiroshima and nagasaki. I understand that there may be emotions and tempers flaring at this time, but please think before you speak. People of Isreal consider themselves a tribe, and so do the omish people, death to them also? Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Re: Another Special Offer- 2 left
--- Khurram Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first three people to reply to me personally about this email will receive the xSpender software from xivix(www.xivix.net) at half cost. One has already been claimed, mere seconds after the offer was announced. Only two left ladies and gentlemen. Khurram == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Another Special Offer
The first three people to reply to me personally about this email will receive the xSpender software from xivix(www.xivix.net) at half cost. xSpender is java software that allows for users to make batch e-gold payments. (Rapid Spending) It allows import of a spreadsheet file as well as exporting of data when spending is completed. The normal price of xSpender is 10 grams. For this promotion, the price will be reducted to 5grams. Mere pennies to pay for the amount of work that is reduced by this program. Khurram Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Golden Arcade
After being unavailable for a month or so, the Golden Arcade is back. It now has more games available and is adding more weekly. Until further notice, all games are availble to play absolutely _FREE_ of charge. If you would like to advertise on the site, please contect me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the Arcade at http://www.goldenarcade.com Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: more on the HYIP mystery
And what about the 1000 spends over 100 bucks? I would say that a large number of these spends, maybe a couple hundred, are spends being made, to and from the exchange providers. Back in the day, when I was exchanging gold, I would do about 50 a day, I'm assuming that OmniPay did more then me, and there were a few others that may have done the same amount if not more. Khurram == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Trivia Question
I'll have to throw my vote in for one of the radio-active uranium isotopes. http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/U/key.html Because of its uses in Power and weapons, it would be a usefull commodity. Khurram == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: (very) rapidly increasing professionalism of GBC universe
Look at the professionalism of graphic design of http://www.goldbankone.com/article.php?sid=123mode=nestedorder=0 and http://www.gaithmans.com This is the sort of professionalism that we are now coming to see in the GBC and ERE universe. Fantastic! Lets not forget http://www.xivix.net and http://www.exchangeprovider.net. Yes, the eCTA website is now online. Go ahead and check it out at http://www.exchangeprovider.net. And yes JP, you are getting free advertising for now. :-) Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: A Slice of Cake
Extrapolating from the current numbers of 10879 spends in the last 24 hours, we know the maximum spend fee on each of those spends is 50 cents. So that is $5400 per day. Half of that, or $2700, directly goes to E-gold account holders via the incentive program www.e-gold.com/unsecure/incentive.htm. Actually, its a fourth that goes to account holders via the incentive system. Khurram == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: 3.3 mil velocity
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow - 3.36 million $/day velocity at the moment. Quite an accomplishment.. How much of that do you think is from the Market Makers buying and selling gold? I think it would be nice to have some stats on what sector of the economy has what percentage of the velocity. Not easy to do, but anyone have any ideas? Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Questions?.....
Why do some otherwise ostensibly intelligent GBC dealers trade in highly suspect crap like OSgold? They obviously don't share your taste. Why does everyone and their uncle, including otherwise ostensibly intelligent GBC dealers, continually use this list to promote almost everything in the universe but e-gold? This list is full of people who like the idea of Gold as Money and that is what they will talk about. Just a few months ago, when e-gold was on the only one, people talked about e-gold, but that is no longer the case. There are not various GBCs and people will advertise the ones they like, and point out the downfalls in the others. Also, IMO, its hard to promote something that doesn't promote itself. People on this list have spent 4 years promoting e-gold, what more can we say. e-gold is non-repudiable, instant payments, instant clearing, low fees, hard money, 100% backed... woo-hoo... gooo e-gold but guess what, so is GoldMoney, eBullion, and Standard Reserve. If you look at the various GBCs, you'll notice that e-gold has pretty much been left behind in the industry they started. GoldMoney allows batchpayments, semi-bearer payments, bailing in of metal, and advertising. It seems like GoldMoney has been the one listening to people on the e-gold list. Standard Reserve has a debit card attached to their accounts, and so does eBullion. I personally have promoted the hell out of e-gold. I have started business that relly on it, wrote software to facilitate its payments, wrote software to facilitate its exchange. But its has become harder and harder to promote it when IMO 80% of its circulation goes towards something that I would rather not know about (scams, HYIP, etc..) Just my 2 cents, Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold New Story 7/10/01
First of allf all, please don't take my comments personally. My bottom line was that IMO e-gold is more of a peer-to-peer currency then a peer-to-merchant currency. Furthermore, it would be a tax nightmare. That's why we invented computers. That's why businesses hire accountants and/or purchase tax software such as Quicken. Running a business is already a tax nightmare in and of itself. Business can hire accounts but in most cases, can not write the tax code. They have to accout for one fees in grams instead of USD or whatever. They also have to account for every exchange because of buying and selling of a capital assets. They also have to account for catipal gains. Aside from that, they have to deal with a currency that is already linked by some government agencies to money laundering and so forth. If standard reserve can somehow link SR-AUG directly to the card and not the CARD USD that it is now, they have a big chance. They probably can't. SR-USD SR-AUG are two separate and distinct currencies just like e-gold and e-silver are. SR-USD are not backed by gold. It just like the fact that I can't spend into your e-platinum account with my e-silver. it could happen if you could do a metal-to-metal exchange. If Standard Reserve automatically did a metal to metal when someone wants to withdraw USD from a SR-AUG account, its possible. Standard Reserve can do this because they didn't split up their company like GSR/e-gold. Khurram == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Rapid Spends
Ladies and Gents, I have released version 1.0 of the xSpender program. xSpender allows you to import a batch payments sheet and have all the spends confirmed with the click of a button. It also allows you to export the results in the form of a spreadsheet. The full registered version of the software is 10grams. You can demo the program which would allow you to perform a maximum of 5 spends. The registered version has no maximums. You can find out more by going to http://www.xivix.net Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: DEFENSE FUND
Would one of the e-gold employees on this list (Reid, Jim, Jay, Doug) please make the balance of account number 334574 public viewable. Thank you, Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: DEFENSE FUND
Khurram, seems like you should know about that policy since you worked there for a while. nope.. sorry I didn't know.. They only had me doing customer service. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: Is this evidence ?
| Like I said, you have to open an attachment or voluntarily run an executable | in order to get a trojan. No one can just push one onto your machine. So I don't know who said this, but its true. A Trojan is an application and has to be downloaded onto your computer and then run. It can not magically appear on a computer. To those people that have had trojans appear on their computers, please check your windows sharing. If you have something shared, check the privilages. More often then not, people will have their C drive shared with full privilages. All it takes from there is for someone to type in your ip address, and put something into your startup directory. Next time you restart your computer, the trojan is activiated. On a somewhat different note, my guess is that most of the people that have had their accounts Hacked have entered their passphrase into another site, not because of a trojan. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates
My question is: how easy is it for someone who can gain access to the users computer (either physically or through a trojan) to COPY a security certificate and install it on another browser? Does anyone know? Therefore, the likelyhood of a trojan being able to steal the cert from the browser is very remote, if even possible at all. Here's the thing. I use to work for a company about two years ago where I was asked to move a certificate from one computer to another. The certificates are password protected and the person owning the certificate had logged in not to long ago. Once they enter the password to use the certificate, they are capable of using it continiously until they logout. So I went ahead and exported the certificate from Netscape, saved it on disk, and imported it into MSIE on another computer. Now this may be just an IE thing, but the certificate never asked for a password again. Which allowed anybody to use it. The Moral of the story is, if you suspect somebody is going to rob you, don't let then use your computer first. As far as viruses are concerned, I'm not sure if there are command line arguments for browsers to export certificates. Remember, certificates still need a password to work. So just make sure its a good one. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Even More Gold
Viking Wrote: Anybody know when the eCurrency Association is going to go live? The website for the eCurrency Trade Association will be capable of going live in about a week or so. The website will quickly become a portal for anybody buying and selling gold. However, prior to that, those interested in advertising on the website please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will be instituting trial period from the time we go live to two weeks after. This should allow advertisers to preview before they purchase impressions. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: frederick
Fredrick, keyboard sniffers DEFEAT ALL SECURITY that is keyboard based. Including PGP. Completely, utterly, you're fucked. What about a second password that you didn't type in.. but instead had to select the letters from drop down menus. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts
Also, in paragraph one above, why didn't e-gold/Omni just go with the if the password fits, tough tittie model? What went wrong? Please fill us in Viking! Well.. I'm not viking... but I'll still answer this. e-gold did go with the if the password fits rule and completed the spend as stated in their user agreement. However, when the gold reached omnipay, it was their decision as to what to do with that. At the time the CostaGold website stated something to the affect of Our account has been hacked... and our funds have been stolen The OmniPay user agreement allows them to not fill an order if they don't want to and return the gold. However because of the above stated, they put it into escrow. The OmniPay website does not allow an OutExchange of over 1 million but instead asks for the user to call as far as I know. It is suspicious that Costa did 10 outexchanges instead of calling OmniPay. It is also suspicious that Costa has not provided proper documents to claim the gold as of yet. You'd think that a million USD worth would be some motivation. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Goldchanger and Holidays
--- Terry Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As strange as it might sound, yes, there's a Secret Service involved. During last couple of weeks Goldchanger and E-Gold have been contacted by Secret Service and required to reveal information about a number accounts. This is supposedly due to the investigation by Secret Service. == Do you care to comment on where you obtained this information? === Non believers may want to contact agent Lambert for explanation, you'll see that this story is very much true. I would recommend not to contact the agent involved here. If he IS investigating something then thousands of calls from people who THINK they might have been affected by something they don't know about will definitely slow down the investigation. It appears that E-Gold and market makers recently became a target for Secret Service. = Again, what you state here is pure hearsay. Speaking as a market maker, I have not been the target of the SS or any other agency. I have been the target of a couple of scammers and my guess is that the SS is investigating some wrong-doers instead of the SS. = This is the one very good reason why true offshore companies like Goldmoney or OSgold are gaining more and more parts of this market. E-Gold was supposed to be privacy (not anonymity tho') but from the point they started to cooperate with Secret Service this is no longer true. Being offshore company with physical presence and computer equipment in United States means basicaly nothing. = Some people mistake anonymity, privacy, and Offshore-ness as a ticket to do something wrong and get away with it. I have been one of the most stern critics of e-gold and some of the things they do, However, when it comes to helping somebody catch a bad-guy, no matter what they do, they have to objection from me. For those who think that all government agencies are bad and soliciting the help of law enforement when something wrong has occured will only help another evil, I don't know what to say to you. It just baffels me. Just my two cents however, Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Swiss Gold
--- Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much do you know about JPM?? He is a great guy who established the first automated e-gold proxy shop. I think maybe he meant JP Morgan, but I'm not sure. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Swiss Gold
major bosco wrote NO -- you can only do that with Goldmoney. Bailing in gold is prohibited with e-gold. Where do you come off saying that? Have you tried? Has anybody tried? Again... I don't mean asking the wrong people the wrong questions. To my knowledge, GoldFinger Coin has attempted this, however they were told that they could not bail in gold. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Swiss Gold
major bosco wrote NO -- you can only do that with Goldmoney. Bailing in gold is prohibited with e-gold. Where do you come off saying that? Have you tried? Has anybody tried? Again... I don't mean asking the wrong people the wrong questions. To my knowledge, GoldFinger Coin has attempted this, however they were told that they could not bail in gold. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] The Stats Mystery!
Just a little snapshot of the e-gold stats. Velocity in 24h: 163,810 grams of gold. # of spends in 24h: 5659 Thank would make the average spend somewhere very close to 29 grams. At best, only 9435 acounts have that much gold. That considering that the entire range of people who fall between 10g and 100g have more then 29g in their account. My best guess is that somewhere around 6000 accounts would have atleast that in their account. Is there something wierd here or what? Seems like either one of a few things. 1. The money flows directly fromthe poor to the rich. (not implying that if you have a few centigrams in your account that you are poor). 2. Few people with less then 29g in their accounts make spends. 3. There is a large number of very large spends. Go Figure Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Question re: Metal Savings
Hey guys, I just used he Metal Savings site a few hours ago. https://www.siderea.kz/ms2. Make sure you're putting that https instead of http... Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold
Jim, I'm starting to think that Eric is right about that decaf. Saying something is true (even over-and-over) does not make it so. The governance model insulates e-gold Ltd. from _ANY_ risk associated with activities of GSR, like it or not. Still "0." JMR Exactly, and saying that "0" over and over doesn't make it true either. Natuarally, e-gold Ltd. will always do whats in the best interest of GSR, because of the shared board of directors. And that in itself is risk. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold
Claude Wrote Onthe contrary, James my feeling is that e-gold LTD is very much plain an simple, as it is a recent entity created many years after GSR. The later is more complex because, in the beginning it created e-gold and probably owned in in totality or partially. The fact that GSR operates the e-gold system and also is a market maker makes it even more complicated. I must agree with Claude here. The e-gold governance model may be good but it is not the best. It fails to hold e-gold Ltd. out of risk. GSR is the opperator of the e-gold system, and also its sole bailee (entity that can bail in gold). That being said, we know that GSR is in a competitive market with competition in both the wholesale and retail markets. If GSR was to fail(out of business, bankrupt, etc..) then the e-gold system fails. No other entity would be able to bail in gold so there would be a fixed amount of e-gold in the system, and not only that, no one would be able to access their accounts which would make their "e" version of gold Worthless. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Pay By Gold Public Notice
Ladies and Gentlemen, For those that have not tried it yet, Pay By Gold allows you to pay your bills anywhere in world. Its the easiest, and cheaper way to send a check to your creditors or yourself. In the coming weeks, you will have the ability to send a wire or check anywhere in the world in more then 15 National Currencies. This would make Pay By Gold the furthest reaching Bill Payment system in the world. However, to accomplish these feats PayByGold will be closed for the next two weeks. We will be using this time to correctly set up our corporate structure, establish proper bank accounts and install version 3.0 of our software. We would like to thank our 700+ users for helping us succeed. Khurram Khan Pay By Gold A Division of Majestiq Enterprises == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: html posters
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is NOT a multi-part message in MIME format.. His apologies notwithstanding, Eric Gaithman continues to post to this list in html, and repeatedly blockquotes entire pages of irrelevant previous posts. Ladies and Gentlemen, If history serves us well we should know that it is always easier to change ourseves then change others. If one does not like to see html tags, all they have to do is click a few times and set their email viewer to view HTML messages as HTML. Bank in the day I used to charge my credit card to buy books, then came Bananagold and MetalProxy, just like back in the day there was plain text email, then came HTML email. If you don't choose to use available technology, it your business, but please don't tell people who may have adopted the new techology that they need to ditch the Bananabot and send a check to Amazon to buy a book. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, journalism... - and let's help Parker!
Error: Field name declared in BAGGAGE_FIELDS but not present on form: city state *** 1 error(s) detected on the Entry Form *** I can't seem to figure out what's going wrong, or what changed, but it doesn't work now so I want to fix it. Thanks. JMR It seems to be working fine to me Jim. Usually the error described above would mean that they have entered the name of a field in the "Baggage_field" part but it does not show up on the form. The common couse for this is a typo. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD, Pecunix, etc., etc.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Khurram, if e-gold sucks so badly, why do you continue to use it? Never once have I said e-gold sucks. I think you seem to missunderstand my reasons for point out things that people don't want to hear. I have a lot of my time, energy, and money devoted to projects that utilize e-gold. My interests are in improvements being made so that e-gold attracts a larger customer base among other things that would greatly help all merchants in this industry. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
--- "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are they trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to build another Digital Currency, when E-Gold and GoldMoney did it for only a couple hundred thousand dollars? Seriously, what makes you think that e-gold and GoldMoney started off with just a couple hundred thousand? GoldMoney had advertised on their website at one point that they secured atleast 2million in Seed Funding. e-gold probably needed similar funds or they wouldn't be in business today. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] e-gold flaws Previously: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
--- "GoldDirectory.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously... What flaws does e-gold have? 1. Someone can very easily write a script that continuosly tries to access an account with a bad passphrase and therefore locking any account perpetually. 2. There is no way to show a third party that you've actually sent gold into another account. Maybe a public batchnumber system can work here. 3. Negative Balances! 4. No third party counting the gold in the storage facility. 5. Absolutely no fraud prevention or resolution. PayPal may be horibble but they still have some kind of "Insurance" for its users. It may not be much.. but its something. 6. e-gold doesn't exist. Try calling somebody who works for e-gold. It won't happen. You'll have to call somebody that says they work for e-gold but at the end of the day, they are being paid by GSR. 7. Sole Bailee of metal into the storage facility. 8. Server located in beautiful Melbourne, Florida. 9. Conflict of interest for users because the people that control e-gold also control its sole Bailee. 10. No Marketing! Relying on users to bring in merchants instead of getting merchants that bring in users. 11. Bad website design. 12. Ploy to collect a large amount of precious metals incase Y2K didn't go too well.. - just kidding on that one. There are several pieces of evidence that point to that.. but I might discuss that at a later time. 13. Bad service. 14. Majority of user-base is involved in "questionable" activities. 15. Infringement of patents... from what I've heard. Just to name a few.. Have a nice day. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold 2001 conference date?
--- "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to their website nothing ever took place, so what are you talking about? Dagny What are you talking about? Of course IRS III (Indian River Summit III or e-gold 2001 conference wherever it will be) hasn't happened yet, the last conference was in mid October 2000. As for IRS II, I didn't take a week long trip to Florida just for the beach. I think what Dagny is trying to say is that if you check the e-gold and OmniPay/GSR websites you won't find any thing about the IRS II. On the e-gold site if you check the "What's New" section, you see it going right from buying a new database server in September to e-gold milstones in November. Similar story on the OmniPay website. According to them, its obviously not important enough or it didn't happen. My guess is that since they chose to "Down Size" their business development department, they aren't looking to do these type of things in the future. Even if they were, they wouldn't get too many sponsors. Who would pay a couple thousand to help sponsor something if they can't get some publicity from it a month down the line. I guess the new slogan for e-gold should be... "Brilliant Product not so brilliant business skills..." Have a Nice Day Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Gold Lease Rates? Simple Question
Hello... Claude Cormier Wrote on the GoldEconomy website: gold lease rates (interest rates) are usually very low, most often between 0.5% and 1%. The fact that such low rates are possible should convinced you that gold is the most stable money available. Does that mean that the Yen is almost as stable as gold? Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: spam?
So... I've received just as much spam in my e-gold list mail account as I have in my eBay mail account. What is this? hmm... I wonder how much somebody would pay for a guaranteed spam proof email account? Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site -- a joke from ad-land
jpm wrote: The bottom line and blunt version: if you're not a graphic designer, don't embarass yourself (like I often do) or waste time by thinking you are one. Hey.. Wouldn't have made the suggestion if I was plannin on embarassing myself :) Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold vs. smaller national currencies (Entry for Stats contest)
Bravo! Khurram Khan --- "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll start with known quantities. e-gold in circulation - 44,475.17 oz. gold ($11.7 million) total - 46,400.00 oz. gold ($12.2 million) daily transaction volume - 5700 oz. gold ($1.5 million) US in circulation - $562.949 billion total - $817.577 billion GDP - $8.511 Trillion ($23.32 billion/day) The ten smallest GDPs for countries that have their own currency. STD Dobra (São Tomé) - $164 million TOP Pa'anga (Tonga) - $232 million VUV Vatu (Vanuatu) - $240 million WST Tala (Samoa) - $470 million MVR Maldivian Rufiyaa (Maldives) - $500 million DJF Djibouti Franc (Djibouti) - $530 million SCR Seychelles Rupee (Seychelles) - $550 million CVE Cape Verdean Escudo (Cape Verde) - $581 million BZD Belize Dollar (Belize) - $700 million SBD Solomon Islands Dollar - $1.15 billion (Solomon Islands) An e-gold velocity historical data point. http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg02528.html 9 Jun 1999 daily transaction volume - $6700 This works out to 225x in 20 months or 31%/month. Now on to the mathematical analysis... The GDP isn't the same as the transaction volume. The GDP is the amount of official/logged transactions, i.e. retail, etc... However, we can figure out the neccesary transaction volumes given two assumptions. - The correlation between circulation volume and transaction volume is the same for all currencies. - The correlation between GDP and transaction volume is the same for all currencies. (This isn't true, but we something to work with) We know the circulation of AUG USD, the AUG transaction volume, and the USD GDP. (Don't we just love TLAs :) This gives us... USD daily transaction volume - $72.17 billion Which gives us the daily transaction volumes for the above ten currencies. STD (Dobra) - $1.35 million TOP (Pa'anga) - $1.9 million VUV (Vatu) - $1.97 million WST (Tala) - $3.86 million MVR (Maldivian Rufiyaa) - $4.11 million DJF (Djibouti Franc) - $4.36 million SCR (Seychelles Rupee) - $4.52 million CVE (Cape Verdean Escudo) - $4.78 million BZD (Belize Dollar) - $5.75 million SBD (Solomon Islands Dollar) - $9.45 million Using the given e-gold growth rate, we can determine when e-gold's transaction volume will exceed the listed currencies transaction volume. STD (Dobra) - Already exceeded TOP (Pa'anga) - April VUV (Vatu) - April WST (Tala) - August MVR (Maldivian Rufiyaa) - August DJF (Djibouti Franc) - August SCR (Seychelles Rupee) - September CVE (Cape Verdean Escudo) - September BVD (Belize Dollar) - October SBD (Solomon Islands Dollar) - November Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: need an e-gold central exchange
--- "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]There needs to be a central exchange which works like a stock exchange, where all market maker bids and asks are represented in the same place. [...] Cool! How soon before you start one? Craig shh... don't tell anybody... but its in the works... Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: poor stats contest entries?!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if I set TOO HARD a question at the 2 gram prize level? I think you have definitely set the question to be too hard. Reasons being that no one can figure out how long it will take e-gold to do any transaction volume because we don't have historical figures to draw a regression from. Second, I don't think you can open up a dictionary and come up with how much USD or JPY is traded in a given day because there is no one place to trade it. John and Bob could be sitting at a street corner and passing a 5 dollar bill back and forth and be trading. They could do this a million times and no one would know. However, if they did this in e-gold, they would have to do it through the e-gold website and so e-gold would know and calculate that John and Bob did 5 million in trading. I could say that PayPal claims to do 8 million in trading a day, and e-gold does 1 million. Yet without a way to draw a regression I can't come up with how long it will take e-gold to catch up with PayPal. Maybe e-gold should save the stats figures just like they do with exchange rates. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!
A concerted effort to create: 1.Exposure 2.Percieved need 3.Economical application is required. Those things may be needed but for a company to pitch to a large corporation, they need to create an image that they deal with the big dogs. The first step is to change the look of the site starting with the main page. The e-gold Front page looks like it was created by an 8th grader. The Standard Reserve main page just looks like there is something missing. Both of those companies should be looking to change their look so they can compete with GoldMoney from an image standpoint. If a person was to just see the mainpage of those three companies, they would conclude that GoldMoney is the "big time" appealing to the more "Professional" type people. Step 2: Make sure the sites that you link to look good. If you link to a site that looks like it was created by an amateur, then it shows people that you deal with mainly amateurs. The third thing, somebody please tell Reid that Less is More. Get rid of most of those listings you have under "Merchants and Organizations." Political Groups, Donations, Mom and Pop shops... please get rid of them. A link to a political party should never be on that page. Multiple links to people accepting donations says that e-gold is not a business tool but just a way to donate. Mom and Pop shops, well.. move them to a different site that only has merchant listings. Four: Stop talking about how gold is the only real money, and how investing in gold is a good thing. Talk more about the business aspects. Five: Create demos that show people how to use the system. Please! People will just not use it if they don't know how. You may higher a big time Marketer and pay them 100K a year but they'll tell you the same thing. There it is free of charge, use it, abuse it. Have a nice Day. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!
--- Douglas Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'll bet well over 100 people on this list send money to TimeWarner
Communications every month too. Imagine TWC's (and other utilities')
overhead relating to acceptance of mailed checks:
- latency for check to arrive via mail,
- human beings to open envelopes and manually transcribe posting
information into operator interface,
- prepare deposits and take to bank,
- deal with overdraft checks...
I wonder if this means that some marketing dollars are going to be spent to attract
some large businesses. e-gold/ GSR's main marketing objective seems to be to attract
Market Makers who will go out and attract people to use the currency.
This just doesn't work. While MM's may be able to attract small mom and pop shops
and individuals, they can not attract large business.
Coming from a MM, is sounds like a sales pitch. "Hey I sell this stuff, so can you
accept it" Coming from the company that issues the stuff can be a little different
then the everyday telemarketing sales pitch.
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[e-gold-list] Re: Frozen E-Gold Account?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) their e-gold account was frozen by e-gold Most likely e-gold has put a "Value Limit" on their account. You can verify this by previewing a spend to their account. If you get a message stating "This would exceed target accounts balance limit" then it is indeed a "Value Limit". 2) my question: Is it possible to make a spend to a frozen account? With a value limit, the balance of the account can not increase but the account holder can take the money out or spend it. 3) It has been since early January of the frozen status of their account, hypothetically speaking why would e-gold take this long to unfreeze their account as their claim is they have done everything to comply with e-gold. e-gold will usually take the value limit off as soon as the account holder has provided proper identification. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: More inquiring minds
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] But that issue, and no other issue, is going to mean anything unless e-gold addresses the "immediate issue", that there simply is no egold commerical universe. I completely agree with JP here... In my opinion, part of the problem is that e-gold has no defined niche of where it belongs. It seems to be uncertain of its own market. They want to try to be every thing to every body. All, with may I add, no marketing what so ever. Something with they seem to be very proud of. So far the only niche e-gold has is among Gold Bugs, individuals concerned with "offshore" activities, People who think that the dollar is going to crash and the world is going to come to an end, and the "scam scam scam scam scam scam". Unless e-gold does some marketing like a real company, nothing is going to change. If Napster can be brought to close to shutting down because the are an avenue for people to trade intellectural property. e-gold can pretty much be brought to the same stage because they are an avenue for people to scam others. However, If I must add my two cents here, without a market there is no business. It seems to me that a majority of the e-gold market is the so called "Scam Sites." Dare I say that without the scams there would be no e-gold. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
--- "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I was trying to say was that e-gold seems to attract a larger
proportion of cc fraud than would otherwise occur.
The reason for this is quite simple acutally. The best thing to buy with stolen money
is more money.
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[e-gold-list] Re: Ultimate funding system
hello, Just putting my two cents in. The ultimate funding system is a system that requires no funding. For example, if an e-currency architecture included a bank some interesting things could happen. If for example the SR-USD was an actual bank account, you could use it as your bank account and when you need SR-GOLD you simply do a conversion. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: [GoldBarter] Win some gold!
for an auction system. Is there something you wish eBay would offer that they currently don't, or just plain something done better? Or is there something new you would like to see on an auction system? ya... eBay doesn't have auctions denominated in Grams of Gold, but Pay By Gold does. www.paybygold.com Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Free Visa Card?
This is your new normal, Mr. MLMer. So I guess MLM is automatically associated with Ponzi Schemes now a days. Personaly, I don't find any thing wrong with a company using Multi Level Marketing to promote their business. In the case of this Visa company, Instead of paying $10 million to air a commercial on TV during the super bowl they destribute it to people who are actually promoting their product. Hey even e-gold is an MLM in ways. Instead of spending million + time + energy to promote they have an incentive program. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: BUY ANYTHING ONLINE WITH e-gold
Volume has nothing to do with it. The discount should be based on the savings possible because of our process. Any retailer should be able to offer that - whether they be pure play (online only) or clicks and mortar. I must disagree with you here George. Higher volume means higher savings. A lower volume retailer might not be able to offset the cost of adding a "GOLD" payment option to their system, however, it would be easier for a higher volume retailer. Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Money Withheld Without Explanation
To date, I have two checks ordered to vendors that have not arrived after 10 days. Hello, You may want to try Pay By Gold, similar to OmniPay, you can send a check to any where in the world, but at half the cost. www.paybygold.com Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Negative Balances
On the public balance page there is one account with a balance of negative 7.7 oz of silver. I wonder how many other accounts with negative balances there are and how that is reflected on the examiner. I only explanation I can come up with that would explain a negative balance would be the storage fee. Once a month the e-gold accounts get charged a 1/12% storage fee for the average balance they maintained over the past month. So a person who has a large balance of metal in their account can spend from their account to another one of their own accounts and bypass the storage fee. The metal gets sent to a new account and the old one gets hit with a storage fee. Since the old account now has a 0 balance, after the storage fee it comes down to negative. However, when examiner totals up the amount of metal in circulation, the negative 7 ounces, for example, get crossed out by 7 positive ounces. This results in the examiner showing 7 ounces less in circulation then there actually is. All of a sudden, there can be 7 less ounces of physical metal in reserve then there is e-metal in circulation. It would be interesting to see how much negative metal in circulation there actually is. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??
If you are not going to store your gold, then why are you not holding your assets in Metal Savings or something else that does not cost you anything? Good Point. the 1% storage fee starts to become a killer when you have a large amount of gold in your account. SR maintains a reserve in e-gold for liquidity but sooner or later will probably invest a portion of the gold into Metal Savings or a similar institution to offset their costs. It goes back to one of my previous postings concerning the profit model for a currency. Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Pay By Gold
There are now 150 verified users on the Pay By Gold system. If anyone out there wants to critique the website, I'd appreciate it. Aside from that, a private label of the Pay By Gold system is also available, contact me personally if you want information about that. Khurram Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: why? ~e-gold/GSR
Craig Haynie wrote: GSR has positioned themselves so that they do not act as judge and jury on accusations of fraud and the gold sitting in the questionable account does NOT belong to GSR. They're out. I must disagree with your Craig, GSR does act as judge, jury, and executioner about fraud. For one, when a situation arises you ask GSR to investigate it. GSR will ask you to get a court order and present it to them, not e-gold. If you know of any way of contacting the e-gold people in Nevis, let me know. The problem comes in where there is a claim that some how involves GSR. GSR being the Judge Jury and executioner causes a one sided fact sheet. Aside from that, there isn't a way I know of to present a court order to e-gold. No one knows the executives of the Trust. Secondly, e-gold is a Nevis corporation and if a situation arises where they have to accept a court order to investigate GSR or on behalf of GSR, they don't have to. They are a Nevis corporation and don't have to recognize a US court order. We must not forget that e-gold and GSR are not as independent of each other as we hear. GSR controls the e-gold website and therefore can have a direct impact on any e-gold decisions. In Mr. Moore situation, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is in that if the fraudulent e-gold accounts had Public Histories we would see a spend for the complete balance into the GSR/OmniPay accounts. And also that you could not show me the court order that GSR presented to e-gold to get those funds. Solution: There is a need for an independent arbitrator on Fraud Issues... Maybe an idea for someone to make a business out of. Also, the agreement with the Bank of Nova Scotia and e-gold states that anyone can add a bar to the reserve with a signature from the escrow agent, but don't waste your time trying. GSR will not allow you to do so, if they did I'm sure GoldFinger would be bailing in their own gold. I would assume that e-gold the company didn't care where to bars came from in issueing more e-gold as long as they were the same bars, but obviously only GSR is allowed to bail in 400oz bars. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: congratulations and warning
Second, about the problem with Netscape and Gold Economy. Hello Elwyn, I must agree with Cal about the problem. I am unable to completly load the Gold Economy website using Netscape. Not only that, most of the time I try to access the Standard Reserve website, it completely crashes netscape. The problem might lie in the Active X controls, if you are using any. Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] New Currency
Hello,
Below are the steps needed to start your own currency.
1. Build the website
2. Hold 25% reserve in e-gold
3. Deposit the rest 75% in Metal Savings and earn interest.
Simple huh... look for "nuggets" to be launched early next year.
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[e-gold-list] Real Gold Lotto
Hello, Could anybody give me the contact information for the person who ran / operated the "Real Gold Lotto". www.realgoldlotto.com. Thank you Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-dinar
Hello, So, I opened an e-dinar account. Received an email confirmation. One thing that many people don't realize is that everybody who has an e-gold account already has an e-dinar account and vice versa. Try going to the e-dinar website and put in your e-gold account number and passphrase. Then try going to the e-gold website and put in your e-dinar account number and password. Doesn't have the same functionality that e-gold's site has but it looks like it's coming along. e-dinar should have the same functionality as the old e-gold system. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: GSR to increase OmniPay InExchange Minimums
GSR's choice of raising the inexchange minimums is creating more and more room for market makers to step in and get started. If anybody was thinking about or wants to become a market maker and needs some help, please contact me. Khurram Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Reid Jackson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Effective December 15, 2000, GSR will no longer accept OmniPay exchange orders from national currency to e-metal (InExchange) that are less than the following amounts: USD 3,000 AUD 5,000 GBP 2,000 CAD 4,000 DEM 6,000 FFR 19,000 YEN 278,000 CHF 4,000 e-gold Users who wish to exchange amounts less than these minimums are encouraged to visit the independent market makers listed on the Directory page at the e-gold website: http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/links.htm However, no minimum is applicable to OmniPay exchanges from e-metal to national currency (OutExchange); thus, e-gold users may continue to use OmniPay as a means to pay entities who do not yet have e-gold accounts (i.e. to pay the credit card bill). Reid Jackson Managing Director Gold Silver Reserve, Inc. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: metal to metal conversions?
Hello, e-gold does not handle metal to metal converstions. OmniPay does things like that. The charge for the service is rather high however. When you do a metal to metal conversion from OmniPay, you are converting your metal into dollars and then buying the other metal from OmniPay. You pay the $1.00 (OutExchange) fee and then the 4% spread. Khurram Khan --- "Sidd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I remember something about in now being free to do metal to metal conversions at e-gold. I can find no price for conversions on the fees and commissions page. Is this the case? Thanks, Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: SCI for Standard Gold
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see references to the SCI for Standard Gold, but I cannot find any link on the site. Could someone point me at this or tell me it does/doesn't exist? Thanks Dave Brooks Hello, The Standard Reserve shopping cart is the same as the e-gold shopping cart. Just replace the www.e-gold.com with www.standardreserve.com. Instead of having gold, silver, platinum, and paladium, the standard reserve shopping cart only has gold and dollar. The PAYMENT_METAL_ID for gold is "1" and the id for dollar is "2". Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: How to specify merchant ref number in e-gold?
--- Erich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that e-gold now allows merchants to specify a merchant ref number, and search for it in the history. How do I specify this number? Ther Merchant reference number is the same as the PAYMENT_ID field Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Rapid spending
Hello, For market makers and all those wanting to make spending a little faster. I have put some code together at http://www.paybygold.com/auto to help you out. You can directly specify the account number and amount for any number of spends and confirm them directly. If you have any questions on it, please email me. Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Growth, The Gold Economy
Just some thoughts, All those interested in the growth of The Gold Economy, should seriously look into putting excess capital into savings and loan institutions such as Metal Savings, or any others functioning in a similar manner. The Economy can only grow when there is capital available for existing businesses to invest, or for entrepenuers to start up. Capital is available when people put funds away in savings. Good Luck Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Ton of e-gold..
Theres a ton out there, Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: KMG - MM??
Hello Mr. Barnes, It surprises me that you have such harsh words to say about the my servie, however, every month I get a check for the same amount from you. Khurram Khan --- "Geoff Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In truth, Khurram, emails are rarely, if ever, answered. I have personally sent 11, and have gotten one, maybe two responses. Response to the last one was a single word. Fortunately for me, that word was "funded". No apologies for the delays. Your website states that a phone number is "in progress", and has for some time, yet if one looks hard on the EGold site, they have a phone number for you. Of course, it is only answered by a machine and my two phone calls got no return call. You also whine and make excuses for non-delivery, market conditions, etc. and seem to be willing to only take responsibility for the "easy" transactions. You hold checks beyond a reasonable time. If we take the time to FedEx a check to you, is it silly to expect a short email saying "we've got it! we're on it! Expect to be funded on [date]. And an email to complete the transaction, saying that the account was funded and "thank you very much for your patronage"? We do a very steady business. Almost "free money" for you. We know what Customer Service means. I'm sure you have SOME concept in your head when somebody uses this term, but it certainly seems a far cry from the accepted reality. I've seen you blast people on this list when it is you who are in the wrong. I sympathize with them. Despite the hassles of connecting with a new vendor, we're taking our business elsewhere. Anyplace where "Customer Service" is understood and applied, and where there is some sense that our commerce is appreciated. I'm not the first to tire of you, Khurram, and I'm certain I will not be the last. I suggest that you, your staff(?) and anybody mildly interested in running a business visit, read and understand the materials at www.cluetrain.com. Geoff Barnes - Original Message - From: "Khurram Khan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:35 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: KMG - MM?? hello, Please check your e-gold account before posting to the list. If you provided us with your account number correctly, that check has been funded. If you have problems contact the Kissmygold support first please! All emails are answered and the customer service department of Kissmygold can help you better then I can. Khurram Khan President of Majestiq Enterprises --- "Steve Tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My cheque was sent on 10/08/2000 and it hasn't still been funded to my e-gold account. And it has been cashed on 10/19/2000 - I know it exactly. I have e-mailed KissMyHold and got no reply. As usually, I get no reply from "Market Makers". At least none of my friends got reply from KMG. Does KMG work honestly? Doesn't it cheat? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-today Update
This is reason enough for all market makers to have a strict policy on fraud. There
is a strong need today for an "organization" of market makers and/or merchants. So,
if something like this happens we have a stronger word when it comes to getting e-gold
to freeze accounts and maybe even giving our money back. See you all the the Indian
River Summit.
Khurram Khan
--- "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Folks,/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2An Important Update,/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Due to the prevalence of cheque fraud and the
tardiness of banks in generalnbsp;who improperly clear fraudulent cheques only
to reverse their decision later, nbsp; Gold Today will no longer be accepting
any cheques over 250USD.nbsp; /FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Cheques under 250USD will be subject to a wait
period of 30 days AFTER they are clearednbsp;and PRIOR to funds being spent
into an e-gold account./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2The best way to get your funds into your e-gold
account is to wire the funds direct to the bank.nbsp; No spends will be done
until the bank tells me such wired funds are physically in the account
irregardless./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Go to A
href="https://gold-today.com/egoldusers_cheq.htm"https://gold-today.com/egoldusers_cheq.htm/Anbsp;for
full information on how to do this./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2I regret this as the vast majority of my customers
are honest and deserve the best possible service I can give them. I /FONTFONT
face=Arial size=2will continue to do that within the framework of the
conditions laid down on the Gold Today Site./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Kind regards,/FONT/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Michael MooreBRA
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href="http://www.gold-today.com"http://www.gold-today.com/ABRSign up with
e-gold today and get gramms of e-gold here.BRA
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[e-gold-list] Kissmygold
I've said this before, but I'll say it again. Well serviced customers take their gold
with nothing more then a smile but customers who may have experienced a small delay
break the microphones. In response to recent questions, Kissmygold is alive and well.
KMG is one of the five largest marketmakers with over a thousand return customers.
Because of the large number of business we've experienced, we have also had quite a
bit of fraud. As much as we'd like to believe that every request that comes into us
saying that "I sent you a check but no gold is in my account" is legitimate, our
experience has shown that we can not do that. They are carefully investigated. If
money was sent to us it will surely be funded. If you are dissatisfied with our
service on mailed media, then please use electronic remitance, ie: PayPal, Online
Checks. Or please take your business to another market maker. We have processed over
three thousand individual transaction in the last two and a half months and not all of
them can be completed scratch free.
Khurram Khan
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[e-gold-list] e-gold to paypal.
Hello, Paybygold now provides e-gold to paypal exchange. Check it out www.paybygold.com Khurram Khan _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
