[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-03-04 Thread ..k.b.ananda..


- Original Message -
From: "Elwyn Jenkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 05:46
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!


 We have amongst the large companies, five who have accounts today in
 Standard Reserve. They are leading the charge to encouraging us to rename
 ourselves "Standard Transactions" and to become an offshore company
 providing services to the world.

A worthy goal.

 It will come. Not this month. Not next month. But between here and 18
 months. What we need are people who will move their entire balances to
 Standard Reserve who will use it as their USD current account, use the
Debit
 Card as their method of payment in supermarkets, and withdraw cash from
the
 ATM as needed. Get your employer to pay your total income into your SR
 account. Connect your employer with a professional market maker such as
 Eric. Get your employer to give you a benefit -- ask for your salary in
gold
 and have him/her bear the in-exchange fee.In turn this will encourage the
 likes of GM to connect with and become a major user of the system.

Not being nor having the resources and/or perspective of a market-maker, I
am more of a general user of e-gold. Compared to various "offshore" debit
card offerings (w/o e-gold linkage) the $75 annual fee plus $3 month fee for
SR Instant Anywhere personal account initially seems reasonable in an arena
void of competitive services. However the $3.50 ATM withdrawl fee is still
relatively high for small transactions. In order to use at supermarkets,
etc. some nominal or no transactional charge should be there to encourage
acceptance such a consumer-oriented ATM gold debit payment method.

Another type of interest-bearing Standard Reserve savings account feature
linked to Instant Anywhere would likely encourage customers to maintain
larger gold holdings.

Best regards,

k.b.ananda
ICQ# 20645708






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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread David Hillary


we need some telecos accepting e-gold asap.

given that its a competitive market and most bills have around 5
different ways of being paid (BPAY, credit card, direct debit, mail, in
person (post office) etc.), it seems that e-gold could find a willing
merchant. 

I really think there is a need for a privacy oriented teleco, given the
extent to which government can use telephone records to observe both who
was contacted, when for how long and at what cost, and to intercept
actual communication.

You cannot even get a prepaid mobile phone in oz without providing ID. 

digiplus will install a device in customers house which automatically
adds the digiplus override code to calls so that customers can use
digiplus by default. Why not have a telephone company that installed
such a device but which also encrypted the call. The calls would all be
to a 1800 number, the company would then connect the call through to the
desired destination and accept e-gold for payment. In this way the
places called cannot be detected, neither can the cost or the
communications be intercepted, except between the company and the call
destination. When two customers called each other, the encryption would
secure the call from caller to caller.

Getting prepayed mobile phones to accept e-gold must be the easiest
thing though.

David Hillary


David Hillary

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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 11:45 PM 2/28/2001 +1100, David Hillary wrote:

we need some telecos accepting e-gold asap.

We are working on that right now at Standard Reserve.  We are in 
a testing phase with a large wireless teleco based in Atlanta, GA 
with pops in 27 countries.

And this week I had dinner with two others who may also link into 
this operation.  One company is based in Canada and the other in Germany.

Stay tuned.

George


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World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web
http://www.standardreserve.com
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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Eric Gaither

Khurram,

   Once again, I applaud your rationalizations!  Too little effort appears
to be aimed at attracting the larger merchant organizations to accept
e-gold.  As a fellow Market Maker, it appears that the bulk of e-gold use is
still limited to the many investment games/ponzis/pyramid programs out
there.

The list of accepting merchants DOES appear to be growing on the
directory page, however, I have yet to see a major household name brand
merchant added:  J.C. Penny, Sears, Maytag, Calgon, GM, Ford, etc.

 Perhaps this will soon change as it appears the G. Matyjewicz and the
SR team are pushing to get these merchants on board.  While they are
promoting SR-AUG, it is backed by e-gold, therefore indirectly e-gold use is
being promoted.

  I have always been a believer that the MM's should focus on the act of
the exchange.  "IMHO" it should be those that developed the currency that
negotiate with the merchants to accept it.

 You are a wise man far beyond your years, Mr. Khan!

 With Great Respect,

  Eric


- Original Message -
From: "Khurram Khan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:29 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!






 --- Douglas Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  wrote:

 I'll bet well over 100 people on this list send money to TimeWarner

 Communications every month too. Imagine TWC's (and other utilities')

 overhead relating to acceptance of mailed checks:

 - latency for check to arrive via mail,

 - human beings to open envelopes and manually transcribe posting

 information into operator interface,

 - prepare deposits and take to bank,

 - deal with overdraft checks...

 



   I wonder if this means that some marketing dollars are going to be spent
to attract some large businesses.  e-gold/ GSR's main marketing objective
seems to be to attract Market Makers who will go out and attract people to
use the currency.

   This just doesn't work.  While MM's may be able to attract small mom and
pop shops and individuals, they can not attract large business.

   Coming from a MM, is sounds like a sales pitch.  "Hey I sell this stuff,
so can you accept it"  Coming from the company that issues the stuff can be
a little different then the everyday telemarketing sales pitch.

 Khurram Khan



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread SnowDog


Once again, I applaud your rationalizations!  Too little effort appears
 to be aimed at attracting the larger merchant organizations to accept
 e-gold.  As a fellow Market Maker, it appears that the bulk of e-gold use
is
 still limited to the many investment games/ponzis/pyramid programs out
 there.


I believe there will always be two kinds of money in this world, because
there are two fundamental types of transactions:

1) Consumer controlled transactions, where the Consumer will demand the
final say in the transaction;

2) Seller controlled transactions, where the Seller will demand the final
say in the transaction.

Transactions which are driven by consumers include relatively small value
items with large price mark-ups. With consumer merchandise, sellers can
accept some charge-backs and bounced checks, and still make a profit,
because their mark-up is high, and their sales increase substantially when
they allow the consumer to use his credit card. For these types of 'soft
money' transactions, people can use credit cards, personal checks, money
orders, and the new third party payment services, like PayPal.

However, one would never consider using a credit card to purchase a new car,
or a house, or to make a payroll, or make a B-2-B payment. These types of
high-dollar transactions, where the seller cannot afford to have a payment
reversed, will be controlled by the seller, and he has a need for 'hard
money' which he can rely on to fulfill the transaction without the
possibility of a reversal. This is where e-gold comes in. E-gold is TOO
expensive to be used to purchase consumer merchandise, and will probably
NEVER be used for this purpose. However, it is PERFECT for a large-value,
low-markup transaction, and will probably find its niche here. A consumer
will not want to spend his e-gold on a new toy, but he will be glad to use
it for a new car, a vacation, perhaps a new house, to make a payroll, and
perform other business transactions.

Do you realize that the average number of listings on eBay, which accept
e-gold, have FALLEN in the past year, even though e-gold is now 5 to 10
times larger than when I started counting the number of eBay auctions which
take e-gold?

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Eric Gaither

Craig,

   I agree with your points.  And it appears, even so if indirectly, you are
also supportive of the notion that the effort to promote e-gold's acceptance
for big ticket items seems to have stalled.

 No wait: ..."patient appears to be in a state of non-response to verbal
stimuli.  Life supportive interventions have been implemented.  Vent support
initiated. IV fluids with a gtt rate 150 cc's per hour. Nourishment via Peg
tube 250 cc bolus q 6 hours. Foley cath. Ted hose. Oral care q 2 hours.  At
this point, we have done all we can.  It is up to the patient now..."

There comes a point when outside efforts do well to maintain, but an
internal desire to thrive and grow must come from the "patient".  Once a
"patient gives up the will to live, imminent death is soon to follow.
E-gold "users" are growing, "accounts" are growing, but as you pointed out,
there is a backsliding in people ACCEPTING e-gold.  That is, until you
consider the games/schemes/ponzis.  Like a virus, they seem to multiply at
an alarming speed.

 Perhaps a new desire for growth WILL come from within now that some
competitors have joined the field.  GoldMoney, Wise Assets, who is next?

 Eric


- Original Message -
From: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:16 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!



 Once again, I applaud your rationalizations!  Too little effort
appears
  to be aimed at attracting the larger merchant organizations to accept
  e-gold.  As a fellow Market Maker, it appears that the bulk of e-gold
use
 is
  still limited to the many investment games/ponzis/pyramid programs out
  there.


 I believe there will always be two kinds of money in this world, because
 there are two fundamental types of transactions:

 1) Consumer controlled transactions, where the Consumer will demand the
 final say in the transaction;

 2) Seller controlled transactions, where the Seller will demand the final
 say in the transaction.

 Transactions which are driven by consumers include relatively small value
 items with large price mark-ups. With consumer merchandise, sellers can
 accept some charge-backs and bounced checks, and still make a profit,
 because their mark-up is high, and their sales increase substantially when
 they allow the consumer to use his credit card. For these types of 'soft
 money' transactions, people can use credit cards, personal checks, money
 orders, and the new third party payment services, like PayPal.

 However, one would never consider using a credit card to purchase a new
car,
 or a house, or to make a payroll, or make a B-2-B payment. These types of
 high-dollar transactions, where the seller cannot afford to have a payment
 reversed, will be controlled by the seller, and he has a need for 'hard
 money' which he can rely on to fulfill the transaction without the
 possibility of a reversal. This is where e-gold comes in. E-gold is TOO
 expensive to be used to purchase consumer merchandise, and will probably
 NEVER be used for this purpose. However, it is PERFECT for a large-value,
 low-markup transaction, and will probably find its niche here. A consumer
 will not want to spend his e-gold on a new toy, but he will be glad to use
 it for a new car, a vacation, perhaps a new house, to make a payroll, and
 perform other business transactions.

 Do you realize that the average number of listings on eBay, which accept
 e-gold, have FALLEN in the past year, even though e-gold is now 5 to 10
 times larger than when I started counting the number of eBay auctions
which
 take e-gold?

 Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Elwyn Jenkins

I have been personally selling to GM for a number of months. Something like
this does not happen overnight. We have yet several developments to make
this attractive. They include the release of the Debit Card which started
this week.

Selling cycle to these giants is about 9 to 12 months and then we have to be
written into their mode of operation. They also want to see that we are not
a temporary dotcom and so have held off for awhile.

We have amongst the large companies, five who have accounts today in
Standard Reserve. They are leading the charge to encouraging us to rename
ourselves "Standard Transactions" and to become an offshore company
providing services to the world.

So far, the Standard Reserve project has taken 12 months to get going. This
has been because we have laid foundations for dealing with very large
corporate clients. In essence, however, before we can actually provide
services for them we need a source of more than USD5m as a trading balance
to cope with their volume of transactions.

It will come. Not this month. Not next month. But between here and 18
months. What we need are people who will move their entire balances to
Standard Reserve who will use it as their USD current account, use the Debit
Card as their method of payment in supermarkets, and withdraw cash from the
ATM as needed. Get your employer to pay your total income into your SR
account. Connect your employer with a professional market maker such as
Eric. Get your employer to give you a benefit -- ask for your salary in gold
and have him/her bear the in-exchange fee.In turn this will encourage the
likes of GM to connect with and become a major user of the system.

The believers must demonstrate their belief in use of this, and not just toy
with it as a game. Before we get the GMs we need 200,000 believers who will
use Standard Transactions and E-Gold as their financial center.

This all starts with us.
Dr Elwyn Jenkins
Standard Transactions
Standard Reserve
The Gold Economy
++


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Gaither
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:55 AM
To: e-gold Discussion
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!


Craig,

   I agree with your points.  And it appears, even so if indirectly, you are
also supportive of the notion that the effort to promote e-gold's acceptance
for big ticket items seems to have stalled.

 No wait: ..."patient appears to be in a state of non-response to verbal
stimuli.  Life supportive interventions have been implemented.  Vent support
initiated. IV fluids with a gtt rate 150 cc's per hour. Nourishment via Peg
tube 250 cc bolus q 6 hours. Foley cath. Ted hose. Oral care q 2 hours.  At
this point, we have done all we can.  It is up to the patient now..."

There comes a point when outside efforts do well to maintain, but an
internal desire to thrive and grow must come from the "patient".  Once a
"patient gives up the will to live, imminent death is soon to follow.
E-gold "users" are growing, "accounts" are growing, but as you pointed out,
there is a backsliding in people ACCEPTING e-gold.  That is, until you
consider the games/schemes/ponzis.  Like a virus, they seem to multiply at
an alarming speed.

 Perhaps a new desire for growth WILL come from within now that some
competitors have joined the field.  GoldMoney, Wise Assets, who is next?

 Eric


- Original Message -
From: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:16 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!



 Once again, I applaud your rationalizations!  Too little effort
appears
  to be aimed at attracting the larger merchant organizations to accept
  e-gold.  As a fellow Market Maker, it appears that the bulk of e-gold
use
 is
  still limited to the many investment games/ponzis/pyramid programs out
  there.


 I believe there will always be two kinds of money in this world, because
 there are two fundamental types of transactions:

 1) Consumer controlled transactions, where the Consumer will demand the
 final say in the transaction;

 2) Seller controlled transactions, where the Seller will demand the final
 say in the transaction.

 Transactions which are driven by consumers include relatively small value
 items with large price mark-ups. With consumer merchandise, sellers can
 accept some charge-backs and bounced checks, and still make a profit,
 because their mark-up is high, and their sales increase substantially when
 they allow the consumer to use his credit card. For these types of 'soft
 money' transactions, people can use credit cards, personal checks, money
 orders, and the new third party payment services, like PayPal.

 However, one would never consider using a credit card to purchase a new
car,
 or a house, or to make a payroll, or make a B-2-B paymen

[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread SnowDog

 The believers must demonstrate their belief in use of this, and not just
toy
 with it as a game. Before we get the GMs we need 200,000 believers who
will
 use Standard Transactions and E-Gold as their financial center.

How soon before we have immediate liquidity between SR and e-gold?

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Elwyn Jenkins

A few weeks.

ej
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-Original Message-
From: SnowDog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:08 AM
To: Elwyn Jenkins; e-gold Discussion

Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!


 The believers must demonstrate their belief in use of this, and not just
toy
 with it as a game. Before we get the GMs we need 200,000 believers who
will
 use Standard Transactions and E-Gold as their financial center.

How soon before we have immediate liquidity between SR and e-gold?

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread gary

I meant to post my original reply to Snowdog to the list,
forgot it is set to reply to sender so here is the whole
exchange.

Without getting into why government snooping into private
business transactions bothers me, my point was, such a
transaction requires the receiving business to do work that
they normally would not have to do, would they want to do
that when they could just say, "Just write us a check"?

Just to see the reaction, go around to the car dealers in
your area and tell them you want to buy a new car but, you
will be paying in cash, not by check and see how they react.
Or, try paying cash for a large piece of industrial
equipment.  I'm not saying that it couldn't be done, I just
don't think it is going to be received with open arms.

Gary

- Original Message -
From: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "gary" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die
for!


 Why does it matter? Thousands of businesses, everyday,
follow US government
 regulations. Why does this bother you?

 Craig

 - Original Message -
 From: "gary" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die
for!


  Assuming that you could find a dealer to take e-gold for
the purchase of
  a car or a business that would sell your business some
expensive
  equipment and take e-gold for payment. would the
receivers of that
  payment and/or e-gold now be required (at least in the
US) to file a
  government report of a $10,000+ cash transaction?  If
so, would they
  want to bother with that type of business?
 
  Gary
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:16 AM
  Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die
for!
 
 
  
   Once again, I applaud your rationalizations!  Too
little effort
  appears
to be aimed at attracting the larger merchant
organizations to
  accept
e-gold.  As a fellow Market Maker, it appears that
the bulk of
  e-gold use
   is
still limited to the many investment
games/ponzis/pyramid programs
  out
there.
  
  
   I believe there will always be two kinds of money in
this world,
  because
   there are two fundamental types of transactions:
  
   1) Consumer controlled transactions, where the
Consumer will demand
  the
   final say in the transaction;
  
   2) Seller controlled transactions, where the Seller
will demand the
  final
   say in the transaction.
  
   Transactions which are driven by consumers include
relatively small
  value
   items with large price mark-ups. With consumer
merchandise, sellers
  can
   accept some charge-backs and bounced checks, and still
make a profit,
   because their mark-up is high, and their sales
increase substantially
  when
   they allow the consumer to use his credit card. For
these types of
  'soft
   money' transactions, people can use credit cards,
personal checks,
  money
   orders, and the new third party payment services, like
PayPal.
  
   However, one would never consider using a credit card
to purchase a
  new car,
   or a house, or to make a payroll, or make a B-2-B
payment. These types
  of
   high-dollar transactions, where the seller cannot
afford to have a
  payment
   reversed, will be controlled by the seller, and he has
a need for
  'hard
   money' which he can rely on to fulfill the transaction
without the
   possibility of a reversal. This is where e-gold comes
in. E-gold is
  TOO
   expensive to be used to purchase consumer merchandise,
and will
  probably
   NEVER be used for this purpose. However, it is PERFECT
for a
  large-value,
   low-markup transaction, and will probably find its
niche here. A
  consumer
   will not want to spend his e-gold on a new toy, but he
will be glad to
  use
   it for a new car, a vacation, perhaps a new house, to
make a payroll,
  and
   perform other business transactions.
 




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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Viking Coder

Gary wrote
 Just to see the reaction, go around to the car dealers in
 your area and tell them you want to buy a new car but, you
 will be paying in cash, not by check and see how they react.
 Or, try paying cash for a large piece of industrial
 equipment.  I'm not saying that it couldn't be done, I just
 don't think it is going to be received with open arms.
 

The main reason that many large ticket merchants, such as car dealers or
industrial equipment dealers or apartment complexes, won't accept cash is
that they don't want the associated security costs/risks.

If you're a thief which would prefer?

"Let's go knock over the local liquor store and make off with several
hundred dollars."
or...
"Let's go knock over the local car dealer and make off with tens of
thousands of dollars."

I don't think many large ticket merchants would allow their merchandise to
leave on the basis of a check they received from some random person off
the street. However, they should have no problem doing this after
receiving an e-gold payment.

The only real problem I see with major corporations accepting e-gold is
something that cannot be changed. That is the fact that e-gold ISN'T
pegged to any fiat currency, namely the USD. It doesn't matter if USD
flucuates against AUG, or the other way around. The amusing anecdote that
an ounce of gold has already bought you a suit is just that, an amusing
anecdote. The whole argument of financial risk vs. fiduciary(?) risk is
only valid for the type of people who mainly use e-gold now (minus the
scammers  scammees).

For the vast majority, it doesn't matter if the USD flucuates wildly
against a set commodity. They view the other way around. The commodity's
value is flucuating wildly against the set USD. The main concern is that
the $100 I had in the account yesterday is no longer $100, it is now only
$97. It doesn't matter that USD aren't stored in the account. That is what
matters to them.


Viking Coder

Worth two cents?
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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Khurram Khan



A concerted effort  to create:



1.Exposure



2.Percieved need



3.Economical application



is required.



Those things may be needed but for a company to pitch to a large corporation, they 
need to create an image that they deal with the big dogs.



The first step is to change the look of the site starting with the main page.  The 
e-gold Front page looks like it was created by an 8th grader.  The Standard Reserve 
main page just looks like there is something missing.  Both of those companies should 
be looking to change their look so they can compete with GoldMoney from an image 
standpoint.  If a person was to just see the mainpage of those three companies, they 
would conclude that GoldMoney is the "big time" appealing to the more "Professional" 
type people.



Step 2: Make sure the sites that you link to look good.  If you link to a site that 
looks like it was created by an amateur, then it shows people that you deal with 
mainly amateurs.



The third thing, somebody please tell Reid that Less is More.  Get rid of most of 
those listings you have under "Merchants and Organizations."  Political Groups, 
Donations, Mom and Pop shops... please get rid of them.  A link to a political party 
should never be on that page.  Multiple links to people accepting donations says that 
e-gold is not a business tool but just a way to donate.  Mom and Pop shops, well.. 
move them to a different site that only has merchant listings.



Four:  Stop talking about how gold is the only real money, and how investing in gold 
is a good thing.  Talk more about the business aspects.



Five:  Create demos that show people how to use the system.  Please!  People will just 
not use it if they don't know how.



  You may higher a big time Marketer and pay them 100K a year but they'll tell you the 
same thing.  There it is free of charge, use it, abuse it.  Have a nice Day.

Khurram Khan

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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-28 Thread Jeff Fitzmyers

 Five:  Create demos that show people how to use the system.  Please!  People will 
just not use it if they don't know how.

http://www.webex.com/home/default.htm
WebEx might be good for this. My employer seems to think they have great value in the 
replay mode to explain. Personally I find it hard to sit through stuff like that 
unless it explains a complex thing.

What would it say? Although the reasons why seem to be hard to grasp, the actions one 
can do on the site are fairly simple. If it is hard to use it should be redesigned.

My main gripe is most pages take a long time to download. Most pages should download 
(via modem 93% of home users) in less then 10 seconds. After that users go somewhere 
else. "...speed must be the overriding design criterion."
http://useit.com/alertbox/9703a.html

The history page is great though -- very functional




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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-27 Thread Khurram Khan





--- Douglas Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:

I'll bet well over 100 people on this list send money to TimeWarner

Communications every month too. Imagine TWC's (and other utilities')

overhead relating to acceptance of mailed checks:

- latency for check to arrive via mail,

- human beings to open envelopes and manually transcribe posting

information into operator interface,

- prepare deposits and take to bank,

- deal with overdraft checks...





  I wonder if this means that some marketing dollars are going to be spent to attract 
some large businesses.  e-gold/ GSR's main marketing objective seems to be to attract 
Market Makers who will go out and attract people to use the currency.  

  This just doesn't work.  While MM's may be able to attract small mom and pop shops 
and individuals, they can not attract large business.

  Coming from a MM, is sounds like a sales pitch.  "Hey I sell this stuff, so can you 
accept it"  Coming from the company that issues the stuff can be a little different 
then the everyday telemarketing sales pitch.

Khurram Khan



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[e-gold-list] Re: and wouldn't TWC be to die for!

2001-02-27 Thread ..k.b.ananda..

Yeah, let's get AOL-TimeWarner on the e-gold band wagon. If it goes well
Cates and family will make their moves to buy out e-gold, StandardReserve,
Omnipay, and family -- or try to create their own to compete! ;-)

Still, sooner or later, e-gold or something like it will go mainstream.
Whether, in that process, the cyber-gold exchange world can be truly global
in scope and free from one country or corporation's dominance or hegemony,
is a question to be considered...

Best regards,

k.b.ananda
ICQ# 20645708

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From: "Douglas Jackson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [e-gold-list] and wouldn't TWC be to die for!


 I'll bet well over 100 people on this list send money to TimeWarner
 Communications every month too. Imagine TWC's (and other utilities')
 overhead relating to acceptance of mailed checks:
 - latency for check to arrive via mail,
 - human beings to open envelopes and manually transcribe posting
 information into operator interface,
 - prepare deposits and take to bank,
 - deal with overdraft checks...

 How much better if some of their remittances were coming in as e-gold,
 via shopping cart that gives authenticated server-to-server notification
 that would enable them to post account as paid, programmatically, with
 minimal human oversight. They could probably offload whatever e-gold
 they receive to the wholesale/secondary exchange market at a higher
 exchange rate than that at which they received it.

 Doug


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