[e-gold-list] 17 million active PayPal accounts?! was Re: Gold economy is stagnant
Um, a couple of years ago I opened two PayPal accounts, but I have never bought anything with either of them, although I did once transfer e-gold to what was supposed to be the no-fees account* and later transferred that to my bank account. * Unfortunately PayPal, having offered people to set up one personal and one premium account (which I did), but they then charged the premium fees on (receiving dollars in) my account, and I know for sure that I used a different e-mail address for the premium account! So, I have never use them again. It rubbed me up the wrong way! Hag Sameach -- say what?! You hear a new one nearly every day! Just last year I got an e-greeting card for an Islamic holiday, for the first and only time. This year, the Jewish New Year, for the first and only time. Yes, I know I could use www.google.com to look it up, but it does startle one when receiving completely unexpected, 'alien' culture greeting. (Well, it's alien outside a few suburbs of Melbourne, Sydney, New York or Israel and such places, anyway.) I don't really think you are an alien! ;) That Mork from Ork guy from a couple of decades ago - well he was a cool alien, wasn't he? :) At 11:56 PM 19/09/2002 +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: The market is those 17 Million Americans and people from other wealthy countries who opened a PayPal account and doing activity through it. Let's focus on them. Thank you and Hag Sameach, Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG http://iangreen.2cw.org/ http://ao.com.au/e-gold.htm --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Dear fellow list member With curled up toes I've been following the paypal thread on this list and I could not resist posting a small comment on this e-gold paypal discussion IMO the big reason paypal is winning the battle is that it allows me to send money to ANYONE with an email address regardless of wheiter they have a Paypal account or not. If the user receiving money does not have a paypal account he clicks a link and from that moment on... The user has a paypal (funded!!!) account. It's called viral marketing and E-gold does not work like this... If e-gold would work like this they would have been a lot bigger (And the person sending gold would have another progeny account) I find it facinating that nobody on this list seems to get this... It's basic internet marketing, learned this trick back in 1995.. I hope e-gold will add this to their system as I do not think they will get mainstream acceptence otherwise... Bon weekend et à bientot! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. This message was typed without any safety nets or spelling checkers. Do not flame me for spelling errors. I've seen that before on this list and think it is sad because the people who do probbably only speak English... I speak four languages and think a mistake in spelling is perfectly acceptable in that case So if you speak / write four languages you can comment on my spelling All others... f*ck off. plz. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
At 07:19 AM 9/20/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's called viral marketing and E-gold does not work like this... If e-gold would work like this they would have been a lot bigger (And the person sending gold would have another progeny account) I find it facinating that nobody on this list seems to get this... It's basic internet marketing, learned this trick back in 1995.. P.S. This message was typed without any safety nets or spelling checkers. Do not flame me for spelling errors. I've seen that before on this list and think it is sad because the people who do probbably only speak English... I speak four languages and think a mistake in spelling is perfectly acceptable in that case So if you speak / write four languages you can comment on my spelling All others... f*ck off. plz. ROFL! Great PS! That give the message to all the condescenders! My only complaint is that you shouldn't send this when I'm drinking coffee - all over my keyboard. g The viral marketing thing is 1000% correct. Simple, intelligent, and it works! So, who's going to allow it to be done with e-Gold? George ___ George Matyjewicz GAP Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.gapent.com/ Book Author and Doctoral Candidate in Training Moderator of E-Tailer's Digest http://www.etailersdigest.com/ Automated Press Releases http://www.automatedpr.com/ Marketing Your Web http://www.gapent.com/myweb/ Board Member AIB #34 http://www.aib-world.org/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Martjin, Ek reken dat jy moontelik kan vestaan wat ek skryf, dit is aangesien my taal sy oorsprong uit jou taal het. Wat die jou opmerking aanbetref - kyk uit vir iets soort gelyks wat eers daags gaan veskyn. Die idea staan op 'n rues van 'n berg en vra om raak gesien te word. En ek stem ek volkome saam met die onderstaande, acceptable in that case So if you speak / write four languages you can comment on my spelling All others... f*ck off. plz. Vriendelike groete uit Suid Afrika, Lourens Human == Find businesses and have your business found: http://www.brabys.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] MM costs. was Re: Gold economy is stagnant
Of course, a market maker might be a retailer, in which case he or she pays no margin for e-gold. I have never purchased e-gold in my life, but I have done some small quantity of trade in e-gold. (Note: I don't have any available right now.) If a (profitable) business does a significant amount of sales for e-gold then it is surely a small matter to become a market maker. Note that I am distinguishing the term market maker from mere exchange provider. Many people may operate as an exchange provider from time to time, but it is only the larger operators who are able to offer exchange on demand at all times. At 11:04 PM 19/09/2002 +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: If a Market Maker margin is 1%, how much does he need to pay E-Gold for buying E-Gold? Is there a contract between Market Makers and E-Gold? Or do they need to operate through Omnipay? If so, what is Omnipay fees? Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG http://iangreen.2cw.org/ http://ao.com.au/e-gold.htm --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Lourens, Soos ek gese het, Pecunix gaan dit doen... en baie meer! Lekker naweek, groete, Sidd. - Original Message - From: Lourens Human [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wat die jou opmerking aanbetref - kyk uit vir iets soort : gelyks wat eers daags gaan veskyn. Die idea staan op 'n : rues van 'n berg en vra om raak gesien te word. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Remember on thing when comparing paypal to e-gold: you can fund your PayPal account instantly using your credit card start sending money. This is not the case with e-gold, where you have to go through a third party to fund you account, waist a lot of time, and on top of this pay prohibitive fees to fund using a credit card. E-gold is great once you have money in the system, but the funding process is just too complicated and expensive in most cases. Viral marketing may not work as you would imagine in such a context. And lets not forget getting money out of the system is not easy either, there is no such thing as instant access to your funds like the paypal debit card provides. The viral marketing thing is 1000% correct. Simple, intelligent, and it works! So, who's going to allow it to be done with e-Gold? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lourens, Sidd, Ek reken dat jy moontelik kan vestaan wat ek skryf, dit is aangesien my taal sy oorsprong uit jou taal het. iga loll oskab ennast hollandi keeles väljendada, aga kas sa ka maameeste jutust aru saad? Sorry for the harsh words, just let us keep this list strictly English speaking, shall we? Regards, Paul Vahur IceGold | http://www.icegold.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: From Paul Vahur's notebook iQA/AwUBPYsfSkkfcBeFLocdEQImKACeLHq9Jmxh+/g8mL78+cC0jrtAWv8AnRge bnM6OpMv71QUW55k/0L9trUr =kZBb -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: MM costs. was Re: Gold economy is stagnant
Of course, a market maker might be a retailer, in which case he or she pays no margin for e-gold. I have never purchased e-gold in my life, but I have done some small quantity of trade in e-gold. (Note: I don't have any available right now.) If a (profitable) business does a significant amount of sales for e-gold then it is surely a small matter to become a market maker. Note that I am distinguishing the term market maker from mere exchange provider. Many people may operate as an exchange provider from time to time, but it is only the larger operators who are able to offer exchange on demand at all times. there are no market makers. MAYBE omnipay. As I've always pointed out, it is unfortunate that e-gold chose that nickname for exchange providers. it is catchy and everyone finds themselves referring to MMs. But it's a meaningless use of the term a market maker is a specific bit of lingo from trading floors, anyone who knows what it means would and does laugh at the usual ERE usage of it, unfortunately -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] rare mac for sale, attn ebayers
i was gonna throw out my 2400 mac laptop but thought someone might want it .. it is this model which is a cult thingy in Japan... http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,51283,00.html here's a pic http://www.interestingsoftware.com/pat/2400withrarekeyboard.jpg it has the extremely rare see through keyboard with caps lock light ONE OUNCE of gold, any major format (coin, e-gold, 1mdcgrams, etc!) gets it including shipping I suppose someone who knows what they're doing could sell it in japan for a grand profit work perfectly, undamaged JP -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Paypaul-E-Gold
Paul - you read my mindnoticed the subject ;) I was thinking, i have to go to see the eye doctor...just imagine...wake up and start the morning/evening with reading some strange messages on the egold list..i was thinking very seriously of getting a new pair of glassesthen 4 cups of espresso later.. i saw that it was a language and was spending 1 hour to get things translated (without results) ;)) just for the curious mind -... what language was it (trying to KNOW what the messages said)...;) Ps. hows the weather in estonia paul ? Ps.2 to everyone on this list - Icegold IS THE fastest exchanger on the planet - from e-gold to my bank account in sweden...- 20 minutesworld speed record...;) anyone think they can beat it ;).. ps3. i DONT get paid to promote icegold - i JUST DO IT...;) ps4. Thank you Nick and Marco at Fidex for the wonderful and productive week in Nice / France..things are rocking at the ST Business Group... Best regards Patrik Isacsson mybizniz.net - E-Business made easy!!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: Paypaul-E-Gold
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, just for the curious mind -... what language was it (trying to KNOW what the messages said)...;) that was Estonian. Ps. hows the weather in estonia paul ? Cold, summer's over. ps3. i DONT get paid to promote icegold - i JUST DO IT...;) Looking at your reply it seems I should start paying? ;-) Regards, Paul Vahur IceGold | http://www.icegold.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: From Paul Vahur's notebook iQA/AwUBPYs+RkkfcBeFLocdEQK5lQCfZnnwHaSFE6+GpY0it14ZURMqFbgAoKJU 5LN57EbdFcUMn9tgD+JPr+3u =l+Fi -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Remember on thing when comparing paypal to e-gold: you can fund your PayPal account instantly using your credit card start sending money. This is not the case with e-gold, where you have to go through a third party to fund you account, waist a lot of time, and on top of this pay prohibitive fees to fund using a credit card. First of all, I agree with you on the matter that paypal is faster to add funds to your account, but that is only the case when the user has an existing account. I know that when you open a new account with paypal it takes a bit of time (days maybe) to activate your account. On the other hand, some exchange providers are able to fund an account in a matter of minutes, so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Secondly, I would not like to see e-gold adopt the credit card method to fund accounts. I am not a market maker, but I know that a lot of them do good business when funding e-gold accounts. I think what e-gold should do is offer special credit facilities to the good exchange providers, so that they would be able to fund e-gold accounts in a matter of minutes. This would certainly attract more business for e-gold (in my humble opinion). Finally, I don't look at paypal as being any better than e-gold or any DGC. Why? Because paypal is not truly global. Some countries are not on the paypal list, which means that they obviously can't use paypal to its full potential. This I know for a fact because my country (St Vincent) is not on the paypal list. M.M.H VirtualGold.net (coming soon) Simply a better payment solution --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: [...] On the other hand, some exchange providers are able to fund an account in a matter of minutes, so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time; I spent awhile staring at the web pages of exchange providers and they all seem to want some variation of a wire transfer or a cash deposit, both of those requiring an in-person trip to a bank during banking hours, or the payment of significant fees someone like Western Union, again, during business hours and away from my comfy chair. If there's another way - where a person can learn about e-gold, open an account, and have it funded and then buy something without leaving their seat at the computer, I'd sure love to hear about it. I don't mean to say that the exchange providers are bad people, when they want known good funds coming in to exchange for their known good funds going out - I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a chargeback, having paid out irrevocably in the meantime - but I'm trying to figure out whether you see a solution here that others have missed, or if you're saying that from your perspective the logistical hurdles involved in funding an e-gold account shouldn't be such a big obstacle. (Which is a nice argument to make, but arguing that a problem isn't very important isn't the same thing as solving it.) I don't think that extending credit to the exchange providers really solves this problem - I don't care if I can borrow money (or gold) cheaply and easily, if I'm still obligated to pay it back even if my customer magically yanks his payment out of my till 60 days down the road. And, if I (wearing a hypothetical exchange provider hat) don't have to pay it back, then who does? Since this is all backed one-for-one by gold bars, someone's gotta pay for that free lunch. -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
I don't mean to say that the exchange providers are bad people, when they want known good funds coming in to exchange for their known good funds going out - I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a chargeback, having paid out irrevocably in the meantime - but I'm trying to figure out whether you see a solution here that others have missed, or if you're saying that from your perspective the logistical hurdles involved in funding an e-gold account shouldn't be such a big obstacle. (Which is a nice argument to make, but arguing that a problem isn't very important isn't the same thing as solving it.)... Right, there will never be an easy way to 'change between' USD and egold. They are different currencies. there will never be an easy wayto change between USD and Euros or between USD and Canadian dollars. there will never be a solution to this problem, the fact the egold is a different currency from USD is what makes it good. -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time; Explanation may be somewhat dated, but when I opened my egold account - I used goldfingercoin and was funded in less than a day. all seem to want some variation of a wire transfer or a cash deposit, both of those requiring an in-person trip to a bank during banking hours, Was not true a while back - I used a credit card. Verified by phone in about an hour. Never left the comfort of my chair. :) Granted - this was quite some time ago - when E-Gold was first starting up, but the process is not painful and the added fraud security many exchangers have implemented is a welcome sight - to keep them in business and allow us to be able to make the necessary deposits and other transfers. I would venture to say that a person could open and fund an E-Gold account in less than 48 hours without any difficulty or heartache. On the other hand - PayPal takes days to verify your bank account with their deposit verification scheme they use - took 5 days for the pennies to show up and then I had to go back and verify the amounts. Now that all the initial set ups are over all is well and both have proved to be useful in certain situations - many folks do not use E-Gold for auctions but accept PayPal - many do not accept PayPal but use E-Gold exclusively. I hapen to accept both for my web hosting business :) Both systems have merits. One of which I use extensively is the PayPal debit card - works like a dream and pays cash back just like Discover but with no annual fees :) Just a users 2 cents worth. John --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
That doesn't help the yanks out there, but any opportunity to stick it to the US I just can't turn down. Ah yes, seeing as the yanks invented digital gold :) oh ... and the internet. oh .. and computers. oh .. and electricty ;-) But yes, it's great sticking it to yanks! And Aussie does have an excellent internet-banking type of infrastructure. It's great!!! bpay and internet banking are all reversible though, just like any bank transaction -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
JP wrote: Right, there will never be an easy way to 'change between' USD and egold. They are different currencies. there will never be an easy wayto change between USD and Euros or between USD and Canadian dollars. That's primarily because of the lack of a firm, reliable, non-repudiable, instantaneous payment system in national currencies, right? The problem is not that they're national currencies, but that the payment system is inadequate, am I right? Bryan mentioned Australia's BPay. If BPay is as solid as Bryan suggests, it sounds like a market maker might be able to set up an automated exchange between Australian currency and e-gold, similar to Metal-Escrow.com and Cambist.net. Of course, BPay may not have the automation features you need for this, but it sounds like Bryan is suggesting that BPay is low risk for market makers. In other words, you could receive a BPayment and feel completely confident in spending gold in return, knowing that the payment was real and non-repudiable. Is that true, Bryan? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Of course, BPay may not have the automation features you need for this, but it sounds like Bryan is suggesting that BPay is low risk for market makers. In other words, you could receive a BPayment and feel completely confident in spending gold in return, knowing that the payment was real and non-repudiable. Is that true, Bryan? I never said anything about non-repudiation, I was merely addressing the fast and convenient funding issue. Not being a merchant, I don't know the ins and outs of the repudiation issue. JP suggests that being a bank tx that it is reversible. I'll take his word for it - again, I'm just talking about speed. If nothing else, look at BPay in comparison to checks. If there is a clearance period for BPay, the fact you don't need to leave a house and send a piece of paper saves time. There are x-er's out there from Oz who can tell us what the real deal is when they wake up later today US time. BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
n other words, you could receive a BPayment .. http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html search on bpay Patrick :) (maybe its a 5 or a 6 rather than a 7) -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Ah yes, seeing as the yanks invented digital gold :) oh ... and the internet. oh .. and computers. oh .. and electricty ...and Jerry Springer ...and WNBA Fortunately the US redeems itself by having a steady supply of southern women who love Australian accents. Oh, and HBO. Where would I be without a steady supply of Sopranos and Oz. American beer is not bad either. It tastes like shit, but it's weak as piss meaning I can drink it for 12 hours at a time and ride a motorbike. BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
Just one quick observation. In the USA, strangely enough, most people buy things using the US dollar. Why? Because a lot of sellers will accept it. So, it would follow, if sellers sold more things for the value of E-gold, it would not be a problem to have all or most of your money in E-gold. If you have E-gold, it is no problem spending it at the grocery store, as long as you have used it to load an offshore debit card. The cheapest and fasted way that I have heard about to fund an E-gold account is with Money Gram. That is the way that I am encouraging people to use when they go to http://zauctionoffshore.com In fact, we have a link to Money Gram on our web-site along with some prefered Market Makers that take Money Gram. The reason for me suggesting Money Gram is that for about $5.95 you can send any amount of money up to $10,000.00 to anyone in the USA. It is slightly higher out-side the USA. Here is my reasoning. If I send $100.00 it has cost me almost 6%. Not too bad? If I sent $1,000.00 the cost is less than 1% at about .01% One might consider that this is a small fee charged for converting US dollars backed by nothing, into E-gold, backed by something. Now that is pretty good. You have paid a small fee to convert nothing to something. :-) You do have to leave your easy chair to go to the nearest Money Gram outlet so, you will want to convert as much as you can each trip. That way, you will only leave your easy chair for a small amount of health giving exercise, once a week. You might equate this with making a bank deposit. Just cut out the bank deposit trip and go to Money Gram instead. Now, if you had a offshore debit card, to make local purchases, and an E-gold account to buy stuff that will be sent to you in the mail, why would you need or want Pay Pal? What I would want is a way to buy more bargin stuff sent by mail. I wonder what that would be? Fred Michaelis Power of Attorney for Zauction Offshore Inc. http://zauctionoffshore.com Patience, my programmer tell me that it will happen soon! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
At 03:49 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Fred Michaelis wrote: Just one quick observation. In the USA, strangely enough, most people buy things using the US dollar. Why? Because a lot of sellers will accept it. So, it would follow, if sellers sold more things for the value of E-gold, it would not be a problem to have all or most of your money in E-gold. If you have E-gold, it is no problem spending it at the grocery store, as long as you have used it to load an offshore debit card. I spend e-Gold at my grocery store - Krogers and Stop Shop, and at BP Gas (petro for our Aussie friends) and this week even at a local hardware store. They have a pin-based POS machine, and I use the debit card with Cash Cards and pay from my account. The only complaint I ever heard from them was how heavy the gold bars were and how they jammed up the ATMs g Getting money out of the system is easy with a debit card. Getting money in the system is still the challenge, and so far nobody has any good answers. The Australian banking system and TechnoCash in Sydney are both viable alternatives, at least if you live down under. The banking system in the US is very fragmented due to antiquated banking laws, which makes it almost impossible to arrange something to have national coverage. Me thinks we need something similar to check cashing services. George ___ George Matyjewicz GAP Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.gapent.com/ Book Author and Doctoral Candidate in Training Moderator of E-Tailer's Digest http://www.etailersdigest.com/ Automated Press Releases http://www.automatedpr.com/ Marketing Your Web http://www.gapent.com/myweb/ Board Member AIB #34 http://www.aib-world.org/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
At 04:21 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, George Matyjewicz wrote: Me thinks we need something similar to check cashing services. I think you're onto something there, George. You have to be the bank, figuratively or maybe someday even literally. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] GoldNow issuing debit cards again, soon! Yeeha!
Guys Gals, Today, we finalised and agreed on a deal with a bank for no name debit cards. (Thank goodness!) Upon request, we will be issuing debit cards to our previous debit card customers for $15 each, including delivery. New card customer pricing should be around $50 per card. We are very comfortable with our new debit card supplier, and we are very determined that this time we will have a long, LONG term relationship! A major plus over the Baltic cards is that all customers will immediately have online access! Also, the actual ATM debit charge is a LOT cheaper than the Baltic card. Normal funding is by way of ecurrencies, or cash. Our site will be updated, as soon as we take delivery of the supply of cards. Cheers! (That means I'm a happy camper again!) Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St US FreeFax +1(866)302-5775 US Phone +1(817)238-9955 UK Phone +44(0)7092337612 Saisissez le jour! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
Here's the thing you guys. There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. Let's say historically over the 20 years 2000-2020 France moves from Euros to e-gold. That will NOT be easy, nothing about it will be easy. (Changing from Francs to Euros was very simple, because .. both are a joke. But changing from Euros to actual GOLD (for god's sake) will be fraught with difficulties at every step.) It will be a challenging, gruelling, grinding process. -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] The MORE challenging, the MORE $$$.
Guys, Yes, I agree with JPM... It will be a challenging, gruelling, grinding non-easy process, and if done properly, it will make you rich. Sorry, guys, I'm playing the optimist today! :) Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St US FreeFax +1(866)302-5775 US Phone +1(817)238-9955 UK Phone +44(0)7092337612 Saisissez le jour! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the thing you guys. There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. Let's say historically --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
: But yes, the Aussie online banking system is top notch -- : surely the best in the world! It rocks! I disagree... NZ is better... same services, less regulations! Sidd --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. I didn't say it would ever be easy. I'm just wondering if it can be easier than it is today. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
: bpay and internet banking are all reversible though, just like any : bank transaction snip On none of these occasions was there any suggestion of reversing the payments without the payee's consent. In fact I still have the 2 fraudulent payments because I had already paid the gold... the bank took the rap. Sidd Also in Australia the same applies. I have had fraudulent payments sent to me via the online banking system and there is no question of returning funds paid that way. The bank again takes the rap. In that situation we managed to recover most of the funds and the bank were rap'd I can tell you even though they did lose some. -- Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
Patrick Chkoreff wrote: At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. One day it will. Profit is a great incentive, almost as high on the scale as survival. 20 years ago one could not imagine transferring money from your chair at home around the world and receiving funds the same way. Now it is commonplace (at least here in Australia and NZ, not sure about the US - grin). Eventually someone will have enough incentive to find a way to make it convienient and easy, just as ways have been found to send mass communications around the globe in seconds. Incentive found a way for us to fly, to drive fancy cars, to improve production in many many ways. This will be no different. Progress will march inexonerably on doomsayers notwithstanding. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Fw: Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Forwarded from JP because he has used up his daily quota!
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.
JP,
: bpay and internet banking are all reversible though, just like any
: bank transaction
This is incorrect for internet banking...
hey man! maybe it's different in NZ. i've seen it, also i asked the
manager of my local rural branch (actually we ended up having a huge
chat about egold, wire transfers and all sorts of stuff!) and he
stated they were reversible, as were bpay etc.
{this makes sense to me since they're just bank payments, no
different from wires or checks, which can relatively easily be
reversed - I see no conceptual reason why internet banking would be
different}
But he may have been wrong -- can you get it in writing that they
can't be reversed?!
It's worth noting that generally in Australia it's much, much less
likely, far harder, to get out of a transaction (wire, check etc)
than in the rest of the world (which is a good thing of course -- or
actually it might be a bad thing as it hits harder when it happens!
:-) )
by the way I used-up the idiot email quota thing, feel free to tell
all this to anyone you think it would be useful to :)
Sidd rocks!
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[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: .. so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time; I spent awhile staring at the web pages of exchange providers and they all seem to want some variation of a wire transfer or a cash deposit, both of those requiring an in-person trip to a bank during banking hours, or the payment of significant fees someone like Western Union, again, during business hours and away from my comfy chair. You seem to forget that there are other digital currencies on the market that would do transfers in a matter of seconds, so ESP can exchange those other currencies for e-gold. We all know the horrors of traditional banking, so I think we can leave that part out. The fact is that there are ways to fund e-gold in a very short period of time. If there's another way - where a person can learn about e-gold, open an account, and have it funded and then buy something without leaving their seat at the computer, I'd sure love to hear about it. Use an Exchange Provider to buy the e-gold with netpay or evocash. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Funding e-gold acct
I live in So. California and would like to know if any MM has a way I can fund my acct by going into a bank in my area and make a cash deposit to their acct. Please let me know the procedure if it is possible. Give me the cost and how fast you can fund my acct once the deposit is made. thanks B Pate = FED UP with the government greenbacks? Check out NORFED alternate gold and silver Liberty Dollar. http://www.norfed.org/default.asp?REFERER=NRC84885 Is this email worth 2 cents? Click on http://www.clicktwocents.com/?109406 Do your banking without giving up your privacy http://www.alfii.com/ref1.cfm?refID=92 __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
JP wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. Patrick wrote: I didn't say it would ever be easy. I'm just wondering if it can be easier than it is today. Let me pose a specific scenario. Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer to direct-deposit my paycheck into a certain bank, and unbeknownst to my employer the funds would actually go to a market maker acting as a bank who would then dump gold into my account. I mean, we're kind of getting there with Gaithman's and other MM's ability to direct deposit funds into their accounts and receive gold in return. All we need is a direct deposit route. Sure, the funding of your gold account would not be easy for the market maker. He would definitely have to confirm receipt of funds, wait the proper number of days, acquire new bars, and all the hard stuff implied by the May Scale. It's just that HE'D have to do it, not YOU. :-) :-) -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Also in Australia the same applies. I have had fraudulent payments sent to me via the online banking system and there is no question of returning funds paid that way. Perhaps it's lack of nutrition today that is causing my inability to understand clearly what is being said here by Sidd and Michael. Perhaps they can answer these questions... Q. If you are sent funds via online banking (including BPay for Australia), can those funds be reversed, and if so, how long after the transaction has taken place does the power to reverse exist? Q. If funds sent to you via online banking (including BPay for Australia) are later found to have come courtesy of some kind of criminal activity, does the bank take the money back from you, or do they eat the cost themselves? (Naturally I don't care about to poor schmuck who was robbed, I care about the merchant) Answers to these questions from Sidd, Michael and any other ANZEAs based on their experience will put an end to my curiosity. Aggh! Damn, Sidd sent a message just as I was about to send this message, which makes this message basically redundant now. Perhaps an Aussie can give his reply though based on first hand experience. (Damn people who beat me to the punch) Oh, ANZEA is something I just made up - (Australian / New Zealand Exchange Agent) BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not..... foreign languages
Sidd, --- Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lourens, Soos ek gese het, Pecunix gaan dit doen... en baie meer! Lekker naweek, groete, Kliptik ogen din platuk omaturik. En biden oblapuk en meer? Kaput en gobledigook. = Regards, Ragnar CFO - http://www.gold-age.net Find a reputable exchange provider here: http://www.libertyimpact.com/ex.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Not related to gold, but it's Friday...
I read about an interesting aspect of the Patriot Act today... http://commondreams.org/views02/0916-06.htm ...and my mind went straight to the ad on Yankvision about the guy who goes to the library and tries to borrow some books and gets nabbed by the parallel universe Feds. The ad is supposed to remind people how fortunate they are to live in a free country. Here is the ad in RealPlay format for those who don't know what I'm talking about, or who doesn't get US TV. (Hopefully the link isn't wrapped) http://boss.streamos.com/real/adcouncil/cff/cff_tv_library_30_rp_v2.smi?siteid=adcouncil ...isn't it ironic... BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
At 02:54 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: .. so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time[...] You seem to forget that there are other digital currencies on the market that would do transfers in a matter of seconds, so ESP can exchange those other currencies for e-gold. We all know the horrors of traditional banking, so I think we can leave that part out. The fact is that there are ways to fund e-gold in a very short period of time. Ok, I see. Turtles all the way down.[1] Right. [1] http://www.xent.com/pipermail/fork/2002-June/013121.html -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
-- From: John A. Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not. Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2002, 12:35 PM I would venture to say that a person could open and fund an E-Gold account in less than 48 hours without any difficulty or heartache. On the other hand - PayPal takes days to verify your bank account with their deposit verification scheme they use - took 5 days for the pennies to show up and then I had to go back and verify the amounts. A customer can buy money orders and send it to us overnight mail and get funding of their gold account. That is less than 48 hours. - John Kyle --- http://cambist.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Funding e-gold acct
Checkout www.gaithmans.com. He has banks all over the US you can go into a local brank and deposit funds there. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' I live in So. California and would like to know if any MM has a way I can fund my acct by going into a bank in my area and make a cash deposit to their acct. Please let me know the procedure if it is possible. Give me the cost and how fast you can fund my acct once the deposit is made. thanks B Pate --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Q. If you are sent funds via online banking (including BPay for Australia), can those funds be reversed, and if so, how long after the transaction has taken place does the power to reverse exist? Bpay can be, online transactions no (however banks can do what they like) Q. If funds sent to you via online banking (including BPay for Australia) are later found to have come courtesy of some kind of criminal activity, does the bank take the money back from you, or do they eat the cost themselves? (Naturally I don't care about to poor schmuck who was robbed, I care about the merchant) I had 3 lots of funds sent to me on an online transaction for three orders all of which were fraudulent. The first one went through and the crim was paid (goddamit). I receive the following two payments and orders a few days later. As there suddenly became an apparent similarity between the orders despite the different names egold accounts etc., it looked suspicious so I held onto to them. Sure enough the bank came to be cap in hand ... 'cough cough,. ahem those funds are fraudulent along with that other one,. can you return them pleaasee'. Well they were happy that I could return the last two but the first one .sorry gone. As each one was for 2k AUD they were happy to get the 4K AUD back. However, if it was 100K AUD it might have been a different story. I have seen two banks on a fraudulent cheques for over 50,000AUD act without compunction and grab the funds from wherever they are notwithstanding. So I guess it depends on the banks perception of what they can stand by way of loss. ANZEAs ... I like that! -- Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not..... foreignlanguages
gobledigook. is right. I recommend english. If you want to talk dutch, afrikaans, spanish, french, et all personal emails are better and don't confuse others. We mainly talk english, US and Aussie on this list and that can cause enough confusion. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Funding
Gold Today has a guarantee to fill any order within 48 hours. I have filled orders within 7 minutes. The Gaithmans Group of Companies traditionally fills orders within 12 hours or less. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Member of the Gaithman Group of Companies An Accredited Founding Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc http://www.gold-today.com 'Always check that gold account before you spend. Go to www.currencyregistry.com it's free!' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
Also in Australia the same applies. I have had fraudulent payments sent to me via the online banking system and there is no question of returning funds paid that way. Perhaps it's lack of nutrition today that is causing my inability to understand clearly what is being said here by Sidd and Michael. Perhaps they can answer these questions... Q. If you are sent funds via online banking (including BPay for Australia), can those funds be reversed, and if so, how long after the transaction has taken place does the power to reverse exist? It seems all transactions can be reversed. Maybe not to easily but they can be and I recall the time frame is up to 5 weeks. Having said that I have tried to reverse myself one bank transfer and one BPAY (2 mistakes) in which both times I was told to contact the account holder and have them send the funds back. Q. If funds sent to you via online banking (including BPay for Australia) are later found to have come courtesy of some kind of criminal activity, does the bank take the money back from you, or do they eat the cost themselves? (Naturally I don't care about to poor schmuck who was robbed, I care about the merchant) I have not had my bank over ride my wishes and take funds out of my accounts (I have refused bank wire reversals only so far). I have had a few chats with the fraud department in which I did get the feeling they would have been more then happy to reverse any transaction if I was not doing my best to protect the innocents (idiots who got scammed - $3k laptop for $1.5k - maybe it's to good to be true :-) - they where quite happy to freeze my bank accounts though. Hope this satisfies. Paul. GoldEx Answers to these questions from Sidd, Michael and any other ANZEAs based on their experience will put an end to my curiosity. Aggh! Damn, Sidd sent a message just as I was about to send this message, which makes this message basically redundant now. Perhaps an Aussie can give his reply though based on first hand experience. (Damn people who beat me to the punch) Oh, ANZEA is something I just made up - (Australian / New Zealand Exchange Agent) BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 4/09/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 4/09/2002 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Tornado hits Indiana
It would appear that a tornado hit Indiana today causing Gaithmans to take the weekend off! (From their site...) NOTICE: Gaithmans will be closed until Monday 23rd September due to tornado damage which occurred on Friday 20th September in the Beech Grove, Indiana area. All staff members are fine, and our office facilities suffered no damage, but power and telephone service has been disrupted. We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Lucky Eric. My best wishes go out to him and his staff. BRYAN --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....
A customer can buy money orders and send it to us overnight mail and get funding of their gold account. That is less than 48 hours. - John Kyle Yep. Just 89 cents at Publix supermarkets. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
