Re: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-19 Thread Bob Cunnings

Right on. That's how USB connectivity was incorporated into our latest
product line. The FTDI part interfaces with a UART on the
microcontroller on one side, and a normal USB host port on the PC.
FTDI furnishes a USB driver and an application level DLL which our PC
hosted control software calls into to move data into and out of the
interface. We bit the bullet and signed on with the USB consortium to
get our own Vendor Id number. The hardest part is figuring out how to
manage the EEPROM holding the USB device descriptor and checksum, so
as to give the FTDI part it's new identity (documentation was
sketchy). Also the distribution of the driver, application DLL, and
.inf file had to be worked out, as was the management of USB serial
numbers in mfg. But really no big deal, the investment in the serial
protocol is preserved, and no USB driver needs to be written from
scratch.

Anyway, the FTDI part makes tunnelling an existing serial protocol
through the USB port easy and our customers are happy since they can
use USB natively on their new laptops without RS232 ports. They hate
converters since the use case is temporary setups in the field for
maintenance and diagnostics - they want a minimum of cables and
whatnot to lug around and fuss with.

Bob NW8L

On 6/18/06, Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Most small-volume projects I've seen just use the FTDI USB to serial
interface. Basically it moves the USB-to-serial interface into the
project.

Not real sure if it's hard to use, but check out the WinKey USB to see
an example. I also have a PIC programmer that uses the same chip. The
serial works on my Mac and my PC.

In other words, I don't think it's that big a deal.

--
Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte
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[Elecraft] KX 1 WITH 20M PROBLEMS

2006-06-19 Thread k1um
Thanks to all that helped me with this 20m loss of T/R issue...

My final solution (after this groups' help and much schematic study and
rumination) was to remove K1 relay and replace it.  THIS IS NOT EASY amd I
almost sent it to Elecraft Tech support

First   You need to remove the capacitor soldered across K1 relay pins 2 and
Then take a pair of side cutters and cut (and crunch) the relay down to 
the
circuit board (carefully!).
Then take a desoldering tool - and without melting any of the very close
adjacent components like transistors,pots and several   caps, melt, section
and suction away K1 and remove the remaining leads and solder...

NOTE: Removing K1 is made more difficult because I was talked into using
63/37 solder (it is the industry standard  HUMBUG!)and not my old favorate
(and hard to find) 60/40 which stays plyable and workable longer.  (this
reworkability is a big advantage, I have now discovered, to using 60/45)


Well I replace K1 and the jumpered cap and that was the problem. The board
survived; the rig works great; I got a few more gray hairs!!!

Thank you all again for the guidance and suggestions..

NOW to build the KX-1 antenna tuner


73 DE Ken K1UM

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Re: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-19 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
- Original Message - 
From: Francis Belliveau [EMAIL PROTECTED]


So until there is a better generic communications standard, I say that the
serial port is still the best choice for a small non-computer company like
Elecraft.  Users only need to know which port they have attached their
equipment to, and if your machine doesn't have any then you can but one 
that

attaches to your USB port.



100% spot-on. Elecraft's K2 has no need for USB, another argument in favour 
of RS-232 is the maximum cable length.


Simon Brown
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[Elecraft] K2 and USB

2006-06-19 Thread Dr. Dan Swartling
When I was in Dayton for FDIM, I posed this very question and the 
official response was:


It would be too expensive and time-consuming to go back and 
re-design the K2 to have a USB port. It also requires changing code, 
and there is not a whole lot of space left to add it. Most of the 
computers and software in ham shacks are older and the software used 
often requires a serial port. And besides, there are many good serial 
to USB adapters out there. However, USB ports are being considered 
for future products still under development.


So this seems to mirror the comments posted earlier.

Dan
WB4NMR
KX1 #1509
working my way up to a K2
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[Elecraft] Duplicating KPA100 filters

2006-06-19 Thread Benny Aumala

Another source might be

http://www.communication-concepts.com/

Look for Products-Products-Filters

Benny OH9NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-19 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 6/18/06 11:55:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 IBM's EBDBIC (?) code.
 

I think you meant EBCDIC (Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code).

--

On the subject of USB vs. RS-232, IMHO it's a design philosophy issue.

The design philosophy of the K2 is clearly one of getting the most 
performance from the least complexity  cost. USB was around back in 1999, but 
to 
implement it in the K2 then or now would mean a big jump in complexity  cost 
*without* a corresponding jump in performance.  

There's also the Elecraft philosophy of not making things that are already 
well-made by others. That's why you don't see Elecraft making power supplies - 
Astron and others already do that job. The emergence of inexpensive RS-232/USB 
converters solves the problem handily at low cost, and the special 
remove-this-pin interface cable can be incorporated into the converter lashup. 
Problem 
solved!

Elegantly, too.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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[Elecraft] Proset

2006-06-19 Thread Phillip Buckholdt

  Hi;

I have a Heil Proset that I got from Elecraft. I hooked up according to spec 
sheet, jumpers on all pins on the header and 5.6k res pins 1 to6 on mic 
socket. This works fine if I key the K-2 with my straight key. I have a Heil 
foot switch I use with my IC-746 and Heil ICM. I ordered a new AD-1k adapter 
but that is'nt the problem. I have a Radio Shack mic that works fine ( # 1 
audio, # 2 ptt and 78 gnd).


Anyone have any ideas?

  Thanks Phil (# 5423)


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Re: [Elecraft] Duplicating the KPA100 LP filters

2006-06-19 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Vicd Rosenthal wrote:

I'm thinking about duplicating the KPA100 LP filter section so I can use 
this amp as an output stage for another rig.  This sounds like a 
no-brainer, but I wonder if there's any reason not to do this?


Also, does anyone know the manufacturer and model number of the relays 
(K3-K12) that Elecraft used?  I would have to take my KPA apart to look!


---

Hi Vic,

My KPA100 purchased in early 2003 uses OMRON type G6E - 134P - ST -US relays 
for K3 - K12 (and K1, K2).  Unless I'm mistaken the contact rating is 0.4A @ 
125VAC  or  2.0A @ 30VDC which seems to be a bit 'light', but no problems so 
far.


My KAT100, same vintage, uses HASCD  KL1TC 12DC12 relays for K1 - K18, 
contacts rated at 12A @ 28VDC. This rating is typical for use at 100W HF RF 
with a good safety margin.


I would strongly recommend that you include a lowpass filter between the 
KPA100 filters and your antenna tuner (or antenna if no tuner is used), 
whose cutoff is around 32 MHz.  HF  LP Filters including  the type used in 
the KPA100, especially when densely packaged, can exhibit 'peaks' of low 
attenuation at VHF and UHF upwards. Toroidal coils do talk to one another to 
some degree.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 




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RE: [Elecraft] Proset

2006-06-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil,

You didn't say what you real problem may be.  If the mic works fine when you
activate PTT with the key, then the mic itself is working properly and
whatever problem must be in the adapter.  The adapter is nothing but wires
going from the jacks to the 8 pin mic plug.

It sounds like the AD-1k adapter is not correctly wired for operation with
the footswitch for use with the K2.  You should be able to de-bug it easily
with an ohmmeter.  Plug a phone plug into the footswitch jack on the adapter
and check continuity between the tip and pin 2 and also chack continuity
between the shell and either pin 7 or pin 8.  If you have continuity in both
cases, the footswitch should activate the PTT in the K2.

If you find no continuity from the footswitch jack shell to either pin 7 or
pin 8, then check to see if the footswitch jack shell is wired to the shell
of the mic jack - if it is, that is in error, but will work if you ground
the K2 mic jack.  In this case, the better alternative is to rewire the
adapter plug.  The fact that you apparently have 2 adapters that do not work
with the footswitch indicates to me that  HeilSound is connecting the shell
of the footswitch jack to the shell of the 8 pin mic plug when they should
be using either pin 7 or pin 8 for proper operation with the K2.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 I have a Heil Proset that I got from Elecraft. I hooked up
 according to spec
 sheet, jumpers on all pins on the header and 5.6k res pins 1 to6 on mic
 socket. This works fine if I key the K-2 with my straight key. I
 have a Heil
 foot switch I use with my IC-746 and Heil ICM. I ordered a new
 AD-1k adapter
 but that is'nt the problem. I have a Radio Shack mic that works
 fine ( # 1
 audio, # 2 ptt and 78 gnd).

 Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks Phil (# 5423)


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[Elecraft] KXPD1 screw

2006-06-19 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
I would not use a lock washer, I would use a flat washer...A lock washer is 
intended to permanently anchor a nut or screw..(bolt ?)The sharp edges on it 
bite into the metal...In the case of the KXPD1 paddle, the body of the paddle 
is aluminum, a relatively soft metal...Since the paddle will most likely 
removed and re-attached often, the lock washer would gradually chew it's way 
into the body of the paddle, eventually defeating it's purpose as a spacer and 
marring the paddle...

Jerry, wa2dkg


Thanks to all that helped me with this issue...

My final solution was to add a #6 lock washer (this was almost enough) then
to carefully disk the end of the knerled Bolt (the group seems to call it aq
screw) with a drummel..

Dah Dah it is fixed...

Thank you all agian


Ken K1UM
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RE: [Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-19 Thread Stan Rife
My take on this is that they wanted to have serial data AND the
Elecraft control bus in one cable. As long as you know not to use a standard
cable, you are good to go. Just read and follow the directions. 

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 11:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial


It seems to me the glaring error with Elecraft's serial port 
implementation is the ability to blow the I/O card out of the water 
if you use anything but the special K2 serial cable. They should 
have designed it so you could use an off the shelf serial cable. 
Way too much damage exposure. Really seems out of character to the 
rest of the rig options.

73,
Paul
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[Elecraft] K-2 Serial Number 04242

2006-06-19 Thread McKenzie, Wayland
 
I am happy to announce that K-2, serial number 04242 is ALIVE and
working.
 
It went together without a hitch and works as expected.  
 
Great radio!!!
Mac
k4CHS
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[Elecraft] K2 keyer, maybe not the best?

2006-06-19 Thread Darwin, Keith
Lately I've used my straight key for CW most of the time.  In prep for
field day I've been hitting the paddles a bit to try to get my fist
back.  I was also trying to decide whether or not to use my external
Idiom CMOS-4 keyer or the internal K2 keyer.  So, true to form, I did
some testing with both last night.
 
I tried sending at 25 wpm (fast for me) with the K2's keyer in both
Iambic A and B modes.  I made just a few less mistakes using B but it
was hard to tell the difference.
 
I then switched to the Logikey CMOS-4 keyer and found my error rate went
down just a little bit.  The change was small and in fact may be noise
but I found the Logikey followed me (or I followed it) just a bit better
than the K2's internal keyer.
 
Anyone else have similar (or different) results with internal vs.
external keyers?
 
- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411 -
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[Elecraft] Wish List and/or Modification

2006-06-19 Thread J F
This may be silly, but one of the things that I don't
like about my K2 and KAT-100 is the grounding screw.
What I would really like to see is a standard screw
type Banana Jack. It is more of an issue for me as I
move the rig back and forth between two QTH's and that
is the most difficult part of the task. (I know, Do
you want some cheese with that whine?  

The little plastic topped screw is just too small. I
replaced both of those recently with computer case
screws that have bigger and easier to grip plastic
tops. There were made to replace case screws on
computers to alow easier access. I found a little bag
of 'em I bought a while back and they're the same
thread as the Elecraft supplied part, much easier to
grip. PEM makes them.

Cheers,
Julius
n2wn
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Re: [Elecraft] KX 1 WITH 20M PROBLEMS

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Playford

NOTE: Removing K1 is made more difficult because I was talked into using
63/37 solder (it is the industry standard  HUMBUG!)and not my old 
favorate

(and hard to find) 60/40 which stays plyable and workable longer.  (this
reworkability is a big advantage, I have now discovered, to using 60/45)



Chip Quick is a low melting temperature solder and works well for removing 
multi-pin components.  You apply the flux, glob on the solder, and it stays 
molten for a long time as you remove the component.  Then you use solder 
wick to clean up the solder from the board and alchohol to remove the flux.


Looks messy while in process but works very well.

Available at Fry's Electronics and Circuit Specialists, Inc. 
(www.web-tronics.com)


Not cheap, but very effective.

de Paul, W8AEF

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD1 screw

2006-06-19 Thread Mike WA8BXN
 
What I did was to put a couple small drops Liquid Electrical Tape on the
paddles around the screw on the side that goes against the KX1 case and
after it dried well there was no more slipping when attached. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Wish List and/or Modification

2006-06-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Julius,

Find a 5-way binding post with a 6-32 threaded stud and screw it into the
hole where the grounding screw normally mounts.  Take a 6-32 nut along to
the local hamfest - caution, some of the threads on the new binding posts
are metric sizes.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 This may be silly, but one of the things that I don't
 like about my K2 and KAT-100 is the grounding screw.
 What I would really like to see is a standard screw
 type Banana Jack. It is more of an issue for me as I
 move the rig back and forth between two QTH's and that
 is the most difficult part of the task. (I know, Do
 you want some cheese with that whine?

 The little plastic topped screw is just too small. I
 replaced both of those recently with computer case
 screws that have bigger and easier to grip plastic
 tops. There were made to replace case screws on
 computers to alow easier access. I found a little bag
 of 'em I bought a while back and they're the same
 thread as the Elecraft supplied part, much easier to
 grip. PEM makes them.

 Cheers,
 Julius
 n2wn
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 keyer, maybe not the best?

2006-06-19 Thread David A. Belsley

Keith:
  Unfortunately, you really can't tell much about one keyer vs.  
another with just a short trial.  The best thing to do is simply pick  
one and use it.  As you get used to it, you'll get better and better,  
regardless of which you pick.  The nice element of the K2's internal  
keyer is that you don't need to trek another box and power consumer  
along.


  I don't know if you have the autospacing feature going with the  
Logikey, but this could initially make for less errors because it  
won't let you ride one letter up on the preceding one.  However, once  
you have the right rhythm going in your head, either keyer should  
be fine.  I find, strangely, that the Elecraft B mode is more similar  
to the Logikey than the A mode.


best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy



On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote:


Lately I've used my straight key for CW most of the time.  In prep for
field day I've been hitting the paddles a bit to try to get my fist
back.  I was also trying to decide whether or not to use my external
Idiom CMOS-4 keyer or the internal K2 keyer.  So, true to form, I did
some testing with both last night.

I tried sending at 25 wpm (fast for me) with the K2's keyer in both
Iambic A and B modes.  I made just a few less mistakes using B but it
was hard to tell the difference.

I then switched to the Logikey CMOS-4 keyer and found my error rate  
went
down just a little bit.  The change was small and in fact may be  
noise
but I found the Logikey followed me (or I followed it) just a bit  
better

than the K2's internal keyer.

Anyone else have similar (or different) results with internal vs.
external keyers?

- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411 -
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[Elecraft] Lost your list Password? - Here's how to get it.

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

If you have misplaced your elecraft list password, or if you never received
it, here is how to get it sent to you again.

Go to: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

and scroll to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address (the one you
used for the list) and click on 'Edit Options'. This takes you to your
personal list options page. One of the buttons on that page is labeled 'Email
my password to me'.

Once you have your password, go to the above link and enter it to change your
subscription parameters (digest mode, unsub etc.)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


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[Elecraft] crikey! please edit replies down and delete extra footers

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

When replying to emails on the list, please remember to edit down the copied
text to the minimum needed to retain context. One or two sentences from the
original post are usually sufficient. This keeps the list and archive volume
down and makes everything much more readable.

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RE: [Elecraft] Wish List and/or Modification

2006-06-19 Thread James T. Jim Rogers, W4ATK
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[Elecraft] KXB30 installation problem on a KX1

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Huff
Hello everybody,

My KX1 construction is going well.  The basic 20/40 rig is all done and I have
even had a couple of QSO’s on those bands.  I am now working on the KXB30 option
and I am having a small problem with installing it on top of the main board.

I have flush-trimmed everything as close to the KXB30 board as possible, but I
can’t get the two small rubber pads to stick to the board.  The solder joints
make for a slightly uneven surface, and the adhesive on the rubber pads is
almost nonexistent.  I have checked all of my clearances and everything looks
OK.  As a matter of fact, the rubber pads do not even come in contact with the
top of the box when everything is reassembled.  (The trimmer caps also line up
fine with their holes.)

Under these circumstances should I …

a) just leave off the rubber pads?

or

b)  use a drop of glue (what kind) to attach the pads to the KXB30 board?

or

c)  just install one of the rubber pads at the center of the KXB30 board where
there are no solder pads?


Thanks in advance for any advice that you can offer!

73,
Paul – N8XMS



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Re: [Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-19 Thread Matt Osborn
Its a dual purpose port.  I run two cables out of the port, one is
short pig tail that is strictly RS-232 and terminates in a female
connector that can plug into a standard serial cable.  The other is
the control cable that I use to feed the transverters.

Keeps the two uses separate and avoids connection problems. 

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:55:39 -0700, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

It seems to me the glaring error with Elecraft's serial port 
implementation is the ability to blow the I/O card out of the water 
if you use anything but the special K2 serial cable. They should 
have designed it so you could use an off the shelf serial cable. 
Way too much damage exposure. Really seems out of character to the 
rest of the rig options.


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Re: [Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-19 Thread Bill Coleman


On Jun 19, 2006, at 12:55 AM, Paul wrote:

It seems to me the glaring error with Elecraft's serial port  
implementation is the ability to blow the I/O card out of the water  
if you use anything but the special K2 serial cable. They should  
have designed it so you could use an off the shelf serial cable.  
Way too much damage exposure. Really seems out of character to the  
rest of the rig options.


The basic issue is that the DB-9 connector on the K2 does double- 
duty. It serves both as a serial connection and as an AUXBUS  
extension for external devices, such as the KAT100 or the KRC2.


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RE: [Elecraft] OT: Hakko and Icom PS wired for 220VAC

2006-06-19 Thread G. Beat

Julius -

In order to support both global voltages 100/120/220/240 - an appliance's 
transformer requires multiple primaries or voltage specific taps.


For the Hakko soldering station you can start with the Hakko USA web site, 
found here:

http://www.hakkousa.com/2006/default_1.asp?Assistant=Dinky

Which Hakko model number ??
This is the model 936-12
http://www.hakkousa.com/2006/detail.asp?CID=49SCID=112PID=1250Page=1

For the Model 936-12, the replacement part is Part No: B2228, TRANSFORMER 
for 936 model
You can contact Hakko USA via toll-free telephone call:  1-800-88-HAKKO 
(42556)


They can advise best method for receiving this part (direct, distributor, 
dealer).


For the Icom power supply, the specific manuals can be found at the Icom 
Global Support web site (Japan)

http://www.icom.co.jp/world/support/index.htm

Greg
w9gb

BTW, this is the advantage of Hakko US, over the past couple of years - 
better web site and ability to purchase ANY individual part of current 
production models!!



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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:21:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Hakko and Icom PS wired for 220VAC
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Someone I know has several items from a stay in Hong
Kong wired for 220. One is a Hakko Soldering station,
the other is an Icom Power Supply. I don't have the
model numbers.

Can they be rewired internally for 110 service? I
suspect the Icom can, if it's anything like Yaesu
supplies.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Julius
n2wn


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[Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint tomorrow night

2006-06-19 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ

Folks,

Please remember tomorrow night (Tuesday night) is a special one hour, 
milliwatt Sprint sponsored by the North American QRP CW Club.


The Sprint will take place on 40 Meters only and will be from 7:00 to 
8:00PM your LOCAL time.


Please check out the details at: 
http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/sprint200606_special.html


Special certificates will be awarded:
1. For the highest score from a portable.
2. For any SWL who sends in a log

So dust off your Rockmite, HiMite, Pixie, Tiny Tornado, Tuna Tin 2 or 
whatever; and join us tomorrow night!


73 de Larry W2LJ

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Re: [Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint tomorrow night

2006-06-19 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ

Larry Makoski W2LJ wrote:

So dust off your Rockmite, HiMite, Pixie, Tiny Tornado, Tuna Tin 2 or 
whatever; and join us tomorrow night!


73 de Larry W2LJ

Of course, it's also quite easy to crank back the power of your K1, K2 
or KX1.  That's what I plan to do!


73 de Larry W2LJ

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RE: [Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint tomorrow night

2006-06-19 Thread Bill Johnson
What time is the sprint?

Bill
 

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Larry Makoski W2LJ wrote:

 So dust off your Rockmite, HiMite, Pixie, Tiny Tornado, Tuna Tin 2 or 
 whatever; and join us tomorrow night!

 73 de Larry W2LJ

Of course, it's also quite easy to crank back the power of your K1, K2 
or KX1.  That's what I plan to do!

73 de Larry W2LJ

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[Elecraft] OT: Flat Panel Display Died

2006-06-19 Thread paul hendershott
Way OT! I was hoping that some of you computer types could reply to me Off 
List with some possible fixes. 
   
  I have a 4 year old Dell Flat Panel Display that seemed to die during what 
may have been a power surge. My Satellite System died as well, but worked again 
when I re-booted it. Both were plugged into surge protectors so go figure. :-)
   
  I took the back panel off to see if the power supply fuse was blown, but the 
fuse was good - just no powering up at all for the monitor. I'm using a 
substitute flat panel display which is working well, so it's definitely the 
unit.
   
  Any ideas? Any things that go bad routinely in these units?
   
  Thanks for helping and please respond Off List.
   
  73
  Paul 
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RE: [Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint tomorrow night

2006-06-19 Thread Bill Johnson
What time is the sprint?

Bill
 

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint tomorrow night

Larry Makoski W2LJ wrote:

 So dust off your Rockmite, HiMite, Pixie, Tiny Tornado, Tuna Tin 2 or 
 whatever; and join us tomorrow night!

 73 de Larry W2LJ

Of course, it's also quite easy to crank back the power of your K1, K2 
or KX1.  That's what I plan to do!

73 de Larry W2LJ

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RE: [Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Bill, AA4LR, wrote:

The basic issue is that the DB-9 connector on the K2 does double- 
duty. It serves both as a serial connection and as an AUXBUS  
extension for external devices, such as the KAT100 or the KRC2.

-

I have run into this situation in many other places as well over the 30+
years I've worked with RS232 interfaces. People jump to a very wrong
assumption that RS232 defines the connections at a given cable connector.
That's like assuming that any Anderson PowerPole connector you see has 13.8
VDC on it. Bad assumption!

RS232 is a signaling protocol, not a cable pinout scheme. So when the K2
manual refers to RS232 communications available it does NOT mean that the
cable connections are similar to any other RS232 equipment. It only means
that the lines in the cable dedicated to RS232 signaling use that protocol. 

As far as I know, there is NO such thing as a RS232 cable. There may be
standard cables that are commonly used for RS232 interfaces, but that's a
coincidence, not part of the specification.

We often digress here about how taking short-cuts in proper terminology
leads innocent people into disaster. This is one of them.

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] Melted J3 Connector on K2/100

2006-06-19 Thread Lee Buller
Well, I was giving the K2/100 heck (100 watts) on 40 meters tonight into a nice 
load (1.2) and things start stinking a little when I turn it back over to the 
other station.  I had been sending code at around 18 wpm for about 10 minutes.  
I am running a Astron switching power supply.  Then the rig shut off and did 
not come on again.  The heat sink was not all that hot, but I noticed the large 
gauge wire and the fuse holder was warmer than what I would expect.  The 20 amp 
fuse was not blown.
   
  I pulled the Anderson Power pole plugsand the RED side of the plug is 
melted while the black plug is not.  The RED Anderson Power Pole connector on 
the K2 is also slighly deformed from melting.  I took the K2 over to another 
supply on the bench and the K2 came up.
   
  Looking at the schmaticI must have drawn to much current for the 
connectors.  Hardly seems to be plausible.  What do you experts think here?
   
  Lee - K0WA
   


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RE: [Elecraft] Melted J3 Connector on K2/100

2006-06-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Lee, KOWA wrote:


Well, I was giving the K2/100 heck (100 watts) on 40 meters tonight into a
nice load (1.2) and things start stinking a little when I turn it back over
to the other station.  I had been sending code at around 18 wpm for about 10
minutes.  I am running a Astron switching power supply.  Then the rig shut
off and did not come on again.  The heat sink was not all that hot, but I
noticed the large gauge wire and the fuse holder was warmer than what I
would expect.  The 20 amp fuse was not blown.
   
  I pulled the Anderson Power pole plugsand the RED side of the plug is
melted while the black plug is not.  The RED Anderson Power Pole connector
on the K2 is also slighly deformed from melting.  I took the K2 over to
another supply on the bench and the K2 came up.
   
  Looking at the schmaticI must have drawn to much current for the
connectors.  Hardly seems to be plausible.  What do you experts think here?

---

You should have been drawing something like 15 to 18 amps, peak key down,
from the power supply at 100 watts. Sending CW, that's likely something in
the range of 10 amps on average (the sending speed has nothing to do with
the duty cycle: 2 wpm and 200 wpm with the same Morse text has the same duty
cycle). 

That certainly should not overhead those Anderson connectors or damage the
K2. It sounds like it's a problem at the connector, since the rig works FB
once you connect it to another cable. 

The way a cable connector overheats is by the resistance in the connection
at the terminals. If the resistance were zero, you could draw millions of
amps through it and it'd stay perfectly cool. Unfortunately, the resistance
might be very low compared to what we're used to, but it's no where near
zero! So there is always some heating of the connector and wire. That's what
the amperage rating is based upon for both connectors and wire: the amount
of resistance they show. 

So if you melted your Anderson connector, it had unusually high resistance
for some reason. I can think of two reasons for that:

1) What I'd consider the most likely is a bad contact between the two halves
of the connector when they were mated. That's easy to make happen with an
Anderson connector *if* you fail to push the contacts all the way forward in
the housing! If they aren't all the way in, the tabs will just touch over a
small area, producing a relatively poor connection that will heat up badly.
The KPA100 manual advises making sure the wires cannot be pulled back out.
That's one way to ensure the terminals are fully inserted. 

If you'd like to see photographs of properly (and improperly) inserted
Anderson connector terminals, download a copy of the Transverter Assembly
Manual for the XV432 Transverter. That's the Assembly Manual, not the XV
Owner's Manual. Properly and improperly installed terminals in Anderson
connectors are shown in photographs in Figure 27 on Page 33.

2) The other possibility is a bad connection between the cable wire and the
terminal in the connector. That's why the manual advises soldering, not just
crimping, the cable to the connector. A little bit of resistance right there
can turn the assembly into a powerful heating element that will cause a lot
of trouble. Be sure your wires are securely soldered to the terminals. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Melted J3 Connector on K2/100

2006-06-19 Thread Rick Dettinger




So if you melted your Anderson connector, it had unusually high resistance
for some reason.
Ron AC7AC

-
And a relativly large voltage drop.  This would show up as a low voltage at
the rig.  This is why it is important to monitor the voltage at the rig.  If
there is an unexpected low voltage at the K2, the cause needs to be
determined.
Rick Dettinger
K7MW
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[Elecraft] Melted J3 Connector on K2/100 - Reprise - Part II

2006-06-19 Thread Lee Buller
Ron and Tom are totally correct.  On inspection of the connectors they were not 
seated forward enough because I tried to do something fancy...like putting two 
wires coming out of the 20 amp APP to run the KAT100.  I did not get the spade 
pushed far enough into the plastic shell.  I will be changing that tomorrow and 
running one wire into the APP and make sure they are soldered (with they were) 
but pushed in till they click.  I see now they were not clicked into a 
locking position.  I got the black on to click in, but the red one is toast.  I 
will replace both ... and ... run seperate power from the PS to the KAT100.
   
  I had this very same thing happen on a 240 Volt AC dryer plug onceand the 
Fire Department was calledit was smokin'!  Poor connection between the plug 
or the socket and the wire running to the breaker box.  Nasty!
   
  Lee - K0WA
  

Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Melted J3 Connector on K2/100

Well, I was giving the K2/100 heck (100 watts) on 40 meters tonight into a nice 
load (1.2) and things start stinking a little when I turn it back over to the 
other station. I had been sending code at around 18 wpm for about 10 minutes. I 
am running a Astron switching power supply. Then the rig shut off and did not 
come on again. The heat sink was not all that hot, but I noticed the large 
gauge wire and the fuse holder was warmer than what I would expect. The 20 amp 
fuse was not blown.

I pulled the Anderson Power pole plugsand the RED side of the plug is 
melted while the black plug is not. The RED Anderson Power Pole connector on 
the K2 is also slighly deformed from melting. I took the K2 over to another 
supply on the bench and the K2 came up.

Looking at the schmaticI must have drawn to much current for the 
connectors. Hardly seems to be plausible. What do you experts think here?

Lee - K0WA



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have any Common Sense - get some and use it. If you can't find any common 
sense, ask for help from somebody who has some common sense.
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[Elecraft] Re: What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-19 Thread wayne burdick



Bill, AA4LR, wrote:

   The basic issue is that the DB-9 connector on the K2 does 
double-duty.


True enough. Then Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:


   RS232 is a signaling protocol, not a cable pinout scheme.


Correct. Then the principle designer, N6KR, wrote:

We didn't have room for two connectors.

The K2 is a very compact radio, leading to some packaging compromises. 
As it evolves, we improve things; e.g., the series resistor we added a 
couple of years ago to the control board to mitigate the most common 
serial I/O signal conflict.


We appreciate everyone's input and patience on this and other topics.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] KSB2 in K2/100

2006-06-19 Thread John, KI6WX
I know this message is a bit old, but I've been too tied up with other 
projects to read the reflector mail for the last two months (fyi - the 
reflector generated over 2000 emails in the last 2 months).


The increased gain mod I did for the KSB2 was originally designed to 
increase the transmit gain in SSB for a barefoot K2.  The original K2 had 
difficulty reaching 10 watts of power output in SSB on 10 meters.  When you 
drove the audio input harder to get to full power, the K2 would start to 
clip on the audio peaks.  This does not create a wider bandwidth signal 
because the SSB modulator is followed by the SSB filter, but it does 
increase the audio distortion.  I added the extra emitter follower stage to 
increase the overall IF gain in the SSB transmit signal path.


This mod should not be necessary with the KPA100, since it can reach full 
power with only a few watts of drive.  Some folks have reported that the 
emitter follower stage can cause power output instability when the KPA100 is 
installed.  There is at least one fix around that reduces the gain of the 
emitter follower stage by increasing the emitter resistor value and 
apparently eliminates this instability.  I would recommend that the emitter 
follower gain stage not be used in a K2/100 since it does appear to cause a 
stability problem, and there is no need for the extra gain on 10 meters.


-John
KI6WX

- Original Message - 
From: Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:41 AM


I would like to hear from anyone who has K2/100s with both the unmodified 
KSB2 and the modified KSB2 with the KI6WX 2N amp mod (and 1.08 
firmware).  How does this mod affect mic gain and VOX operation?  How does 
the absence of this mod affect mic gain and VOX operation?  Does the mod 
help SSB modulation on 10 meters with the power level set at 5 watts?  Do 
you find this mod helpful at 100 watts?  Thanks for your input.  Roy Morris 
W4WFB


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Re: [Elecraft] KSB2 in K2/100

2006-06-19 Thread Rick Dettinger
John - KI6WX said:
(fyi - the 
 reflector generated over 2000 emails in the last 2 months).
==
No wonder I havn't got the house painted!
Rick Dettinger
K7MW

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[Elecraft] yet another KX1 antenna

2006-06-19 Thread Bob Cunnings

My search goes on for a simple field antenna system for which the KX1
can get a match on 40, 30 and 20 meters *and* with a good long
feedline so that the antenna can be placed in an exposed location
while the op takes shelter from the sun and wind some distance away.
I'm planning for the ARS Flight of the Bumblebees contest this July -
I want to be able to switch between 20 and 40 over the course of the
event while using a single antenna - with as little feedline loss as
possible.

So here's one I've been playing with lately - it's based on the
coupled resonator dipole and was made from pieces of windowed
twinlead I had hanging around in the garage.

I used a 64 foot piece of 16 ga. 450 ohm windowed twinlead (approx. 1
inch spacing between conductors) for the radiating part. One conductor
was opened at the center of the piece and a 40 foot piece of 16 ga.
300 ohm windowed twinlead attached as a feedline. The other conductor
was cut at two points 17 feet each way from the center to create a 34
foot resonator for 20 meters. I just removed a 1/4'' section of wire
to interrupt the conductor (at a point where the webbing was present).

From what I read in the ARRL Antenna Book topic on this type of

antenna the 1 inch spacing between driven element and resonator isn't
too far off the mark for 16 ga. wire.

Modeling with NEC-Win+  (carefully, the 1'' spacing is getting close)
indicated that the SWR on the feedline would be less than 10:1 on all
3 bands. Although not resonant on 30 meters, with a 300 ohm feedline
the mismatch was on the same order as that for 20 and 40. According to
ZIZL line losses would be well below 1 dB for all 3 bands. This in an
inverted vee configuration with the feedpoint at 35 feet over average
ground. Indeed, once built, and supported by a 32 foot telescoping
fiberglas mast, the KX1 ATU gets a good match on all bands and
operating performance seems much better than the speaker wire doublets
I've used with their lossy feedlines.

But what I really like about the antenna is that since it is all
windowed twinlead with copper plated stranded steel wire it's strong,
tough as nails and easy to handle. It is a bit on the heavy side, but
maybe worth the extra effort to hike it up the mountain for the
contest.

Any other Bumblebees on the list using a KX1 this year? If so, what
antennas do you plan to use?

Bob NW8L
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