[Elecraft] LED segment display reading high

2007-08-17 Thread Michael Wells G7VJR

Hi -

I have completed the RX in my K2 and found that all signals were end- 
stopping on the LED. I have recalibrated the segement hi/lo settings  
as per the manual but this procedure always results in high readings  
(eg. S5 sigs read S40). I can wind s-hi up to make the readings more  
sensible and then it all behaves correctly.


I wonder whether I have a wrong capacitor or resistor somewhere, as I  
think the calibration process is unlikely to give S40 readings in  
this way. I'm not sure where to look - any advice on this would be  
much appreciated!


73
Michael G7VJR

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RE: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes

2007-08-17 Thread Richard Kent
Chris,
Built on the motherboard type sound cards need to be checked before
using them for more than just listening. Many, but not all, are designed to
provide signals for cheap computer type speakers. This means that the
audio bandpass is pre-distorted to match these speakers. Often this means
a boosted bass and sometimes boosted treble. All Windows versions have some
control of this depending on the driver in use. However, sometimes this is
designed into the chipset and changing it in Windows makes it worse. 
The other problem I have had is excessive noise. Power supply, chip
noise you name it. One that I measured barely made -40db noise floor. This
may not sound so bad, broadcasters are to make -60 min. for the entire
system. In this case the card is too noisy adding it to a system makes the
noise worse.
Many third party audiophile type sound cards both internal and
external have flat response and noise floor well beyond -60db. Most have
better bypassing and dynamic range. Another difference could be that these
cards often sample out to 96K and some even higher sample rates, a benefit
if experimenting with SDR. Your software may not use the extra resolution or
the sample rate, but a card capable of better will generally do better even
in the lesser mode.

Good Luck
Richard Kent

My own interest in the K3 is principally (but not exclusively) the
digimodes. For that reason I was interested in the suggestion of Simon,
HB9DRV that there might be an operational gain in using a better sound
card than that on the PC motherboard. I don't know enough about computing to
make judgements, and it would help me (and others in my position) if more
knowledgeable and experienced folk on the list could offer advice on the
following questions.

Q1.Does experience suggest that there can be an observable operational
gain in using a sound card different from that built into the PC?

Q2.Which published technical specifications of a sound card are relevant
to digimode operation?

Q3.On the basis of the answer to Q2, how does one judge whether one
sound card is better than another for digimode operation?

Q4.Do list members have specific recommendations for cost-effective
external sound cards? (The sound card suggested by Simon costs around as
much in the UK as the 100W upgrade for the basic K3.)

73 Chris, MØPSK

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Re: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes

2007-08-17 Thread Bill NY9H

At 12:19 PM 8/16/2007, David Cutter wrote:
The SSM2165 is a good speech compressor and not expensive.  I'm 
assuming it will work on data?  to bring up the level as required.


wonder if the control of the existing SSM2165 on the K2's ssb board 
is adequate to optimize the data


bill 


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[Elecraft] K2 now K2/100

2007-08-17 Thread Steve Kallal
My K2 is now a K2/100. Thanks to all who helped me navigate through the
obstacles. Fortunately there weren't too many. I didn't build my K2, though
now wish I had. There are still things to finish with it, such as
re-tweaking the SWR detection and the speaker. But these have been discussed
on a different thread.
 
I got on 40 meters CW last night on and got good reports with it between CA
and OH. There is a definitely feeling of accomplishment putting something on
the I built myself. Now I plan on putting more modules into the K2.
 
73,
 
Steve N6VL
 
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RE: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes

2007-08-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 The SSM2165 is a good speech compressor and not expensive.  
 I'm assuming it will work on data?  to bring up the level 
 as required.

You don't want compression on data modes.  Better to use a good 
low noise, single rail op amp with a low noise reference as a 
preamplifier to bring the maximum receive level up to 4 V P-P. 
Compression effects the characteristics of some data modulation 
modes (one reason for the suggestions to not run any transmit 
ALC with data modes other than FSK). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cutter
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:19 PM
 To: Joe Subich, W4TV; 'Michael Keane K1MK'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes
 
 
 The SSM2165 is a good speech compressor and not expensive.  
 I'm assuming it 
 will work on data?  to bring up the level as required.
 
 You can get a complete kit from www.box73.com DYC-817   (Code 734980)
 External dynamic compressor kit for FT-817.
 
 Or from OK1CDJ, but I can't find the link at the moment.
 
 This will incur some extra noise, but there are components to 
 adjust to 
 optimise compression etc.
 
 David
 G3UNA
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Michael Keane K1MK' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Elecraft 
 Reflector' 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:50 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes
 
 
 
  Obviously, the performance specs for a 24-bit sound card should be
  better than for a 16-bit card.
 
  Does anyone know which software apps actually do make use of the
  extra bits and the higher performance of a 24-bit sound card?
 
  There is not much that can be done in the application to take
  advantage of the 24 bit sound cards.  All of the devices are
  limited on the strong signal end of the spectrum by their power
  supply (typically 5 volt) which limits the signal to the ADC to
  about 4.5 volts p-p.  On the low signal end, the digital software
  is limited by the noise level from a quiet band (receiver IF
  noise, atmospheric noise, etc.) at the receiver output.  
 From memory,
  most receivers I've seen show composite noise floors about 80 dB
  below their peak output (peak output is generally around 200 mV
  average or somewhat less than 1 volt p-p) with no antenna and
  quiet band noise around 70 dB below maximum output.
 
  Even if the DSP algorithms in the digital software could get 10
  dB below the noise, the 16 bit sound cards with their 95 to 97
  dB theoretical dynamic range would be more than enough for most
  amateur work at HF.
 
  They key to getting everything you can with soundcard modes on
  HF is having a very low noise audio amplifier between the
  receiver and ADC (it may be in the soundcard) and minimizing
  any power supply and logic noise in the sound card.  If you
  will be using AGC and narrow filters in the receiver (one
  key to maximum weak signal effectiveness), the receiver AGC will
  limit the dynamic range into the sound card to well less than
  40 dB (the difference between MDS and AGC threshold) in any case.
 
  You want the peak audio to be as close to the 4 V p-p point
  as possible to make maximum use of the sound card's available
  dynamic range as you can.  If the maximum signal to the ADC is
  only one volt p-p you have already given away 12 dB of DR!
 
  73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Michael Keane K1MK
  Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:49 AM
  To: Elecraft Reflector
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes
 
 
  At 09:08 AM 8/16/2007, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Typically, the more bits in the Soundcard A-D conversion, 
 the better
  the dynamic range.  There is also the noise floor of the
  soundcard to consider.
  
  Most internal soundcards are 16 bit while the upgrades 
 are typically
  24 bits for the A-D.
 
  Obviously, the performance specs for a 24-bit sound card should be
  better than for a 16-bit card.
 
  However, in his review of sound cards for Amateur Radio 
 that appeared
  in the May 2007 QST, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote that very few
  digital-mode apps are designed to take advantage of the higher
  precision when it is available.
 
  Does anyone know which software apps actually do make use of the
  extra bits and the higher performance of a 24-bit sound card?
 
  73,
  Mike K1MK
 
  Michael Keane K1MK
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[Elecraft] What postal option to use to UK(K3)

2007-08-17 Thread Mark Hampton
Hi all,
   I should be taking the plunge very soon and ordering a K3.   On the 
shipping page there are several options that I can use.   Which ones have 
subscribers from the UK and Europe used?   Since the K3 will be in the Oct/Nov 
production run, waiting a few extra days for slower delivery isn't a problem.

Thanks, Mark M5MDH
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[Elecraft] FS

2007-08-17 Thread jpgabbard
The K2  Kits have been spoken for . thanks for all the interest.
  72, John  KF7OM 


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Re: [Elecraft] What postal option to use to UK(K3)

2007-08-17 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Myself I'm using US Post which means it'll arrive at the DRV pigsty with 
Swiss Post. They charge nothing for handling the VAT, are very good and 
efficient.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  I should be taking the plunge very soon and ordering a K3.   On the 
shipping page there are several options that I can use.   Which ones have 
subscribers from the UK and Europe used?   Since the K3 will be in the 
Oct/Nov production run, waiting a few extra days for slower delivery isn't a 
problem.


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Re: [Elecraft] What postal option to use to UK(K3)

2007-08-17 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 8/17/07, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myself I'm using US Post which means it'll arrive at the DRV pigsty with
 Swiss Post. They charge nothing for handling the VAT, are very good and
 efficient.

Just hang on while I move to Switzerland, then. :)
-- 
Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392  K3 s/n: ???
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Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com
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Re: [Elecraft] What postal option to use to UK(K3)

2007-08-17 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

Hi,

Don't know - probably express unless it breaks the piggybank.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Thanks for the quick reply Simon, I see there are 2 US post choices, 
express and priority.  Which one are you using?


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Re: [Elecraft] What postal option to use to UK(K3)

2007-08-17 Thread Mark Hampton
Thanks for the replies, A K3/10 and ATU has now been ordered, the 100w 
upgrade will be ordered at a later date.


Mark M5MDH 


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[Elecraft] Mt. Saint Helens

2007-08-17 Thread Karl Anderson
Hi Folks,

I'll be operating my K2 tomorrow morning at the Johnson Ridge Observatory on 
Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. My location will be about 3 miles from 
where Gerry Martin, W6TQF perished after he provided the first radio 
transmission that the mountain was erupting. Time of operation will be approx. 
1600Z-1900Z or 9am-12pm local time. If you have a moment, please listen for me.

73, 
Karl NM7N-
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Re: [Elecraft] Mt. Saint Helens

2007-08-17 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski
Happy to listen for you.  Would that be 20 meters and what 
frequency(ies) would you be hanging around?


Jozef WB2MIC

Karl Anderson wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'll be operating my K2 tomorrow morning at the Johnson Ridge Observatory on 
Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. My location will be about 3 miles from 
where Gerry Martin, W6TQF perished after he provided the first radio 
transmission that the mountain was erupting. Time of operation will be approx. 
1600Z-1900Z or 9am-12pm local time. If you have a moment, please listen for me.

73, 
Karl NM7N-

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[Elecraft] Re: Mt. Saint Helens

2007-08-17 Thread Karl Anderson

Forgot to mention the frequencies:

1600Z-1800Z  around 7040Mhz on cw
1800Z-1900Z around the upper end of 20M SSB

- Original Message - 
From: Karl Anderson

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Mt. Saint Helens


Hi Folks,

I'll be operating my K2 tomorrow morning at the Johnson Ridge Observatory on 
Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. My location will be about 3 miles from 
where Gerry Martin, W6TQF perished after he provided the first radio 
transmission that the mountain was erupting. Time of operation will be 
approx. 1600Z-1900Z or 9am-12pm local time. If you have a moment, please 
listen for me.


73,
Karl NM7N- 


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[Elecraft] KSB2 Kit Resistor query

2007-08-17 Thread Denis Jackson
Hi, 

Just got to the step in the control panel where, if you are also planning to 
fit the KSB2 board, you add some of the optional components to the control 
board.  On the KSB2  instructions, page 16, it says R13 is 68.1k - and also in 
the inventory on page 3 it gives the same value for this resistor.

Trouble is, I don't have a resistor that value in the bag.  I do have one of 
64k but that's it.  I can't seem to find a 64k resistor elsewhere in the 
inventory so I'm guessing (again) that this is a substitute.  Anyone know for 
sure?

Thanks

Denis

MW0CBC/GW8OQV 
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Re: [Elecraft] Mt. Saint Helens

2007-08-17 Thread Larry Phipps
Be sure to catch the wide-screen theater, Karl. I edited the the video 
that runs there. It's a cinerama style multi-projector presentation 
with some cool special effects to recreate the eruption. You won't want 
to miss the finale ;-)


73,
Larry N8LP



Karl Anderson wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'll be operating my K2 tomorrow morning at the Johnson Ridge Observatory on 
Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. My location will be about 3 miles from 
where Gerry Martin, W6TQF perished after he provided the first radio 
transmission that the mountain was erupting. Time of operation will be approx. 
1600Z-1900Z or 9am-12pm local time. If you have a moment, please listen for me.

73, 
Karl NM7N-

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[Elecraft] RS 232 connection failure

2007-08-17 Thread Bob Jones

Hi

my K2/100 Nr 5336 has fallen out with my PC - they've stopped talking  
to each other. I use microHAM's USB device router and a number of  
serial to USB adapters, all of which have worked fine until now. The  
same adapters work perfectly with my Icom rig but I get no response  
when the PC polls the K2. I use VQLog for general logging and  
Writelog for contests - neither will now work with the K2. Done the  
obvious stuff  - checking that the port is switched on at the K2 and  
checking all the connections on the DB9 adapter lead. I also use the  
KAT100 and have tried with it connected and disconnected - no  
difference.
Any ideas on where I can start looking for the fault would be very  
welcome.


73 Bob G3YIQ
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[Elecraft] Shelby Hamfest: K3?

2007-08-17 Thread Richard S

Hi All,
 The Shelby Hamfest is coming up in a few weeks.  (Shelby, NC Aug 31, Sep 1, and Sep 2)  Does 
anyone know if Elecraft will be there, or else one of the beta testers, to demo the K3?
 I was looking for a hamfest link on the Elecraft web site, that would give information on 
hamfests where one could see the various Elecraft products.  It may be there, but I couldn't find 
that type of info.  Perhaps that would be a nice edition to the web site once the dust settles from 
the K3 rollout.

 See you at Shelby!
 73, Richard, AI4SH


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Re: [Elecraft] Shelby Hamfest: K3?

2007-08-17 Thread k4tmc
Well...I'm not a beta tester, but I'm about 3 hrs away from Shelby.  If 
the crew at Elecraft want to go ahead and ship my K3 early, I'll 
consider taking it out to Shelby. (wink!)


73,
Henry - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC


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Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 6:07 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] Shelby Hamfest: K3?









Hi All,

 The Shelby Hamfest is coming up in a few weeks.  (Shelby, NC Aug 31, 
Sep 1, and Sep 2)  Does
anyone know if Elecraft will be there, or else one of the beta testers, 
to demo the K3?


 I was looking for a hamfest link on the Elecraft web site, that would 
give information on
hamfests where one could see the various Elecraft products.  It may be 
there, but I couldn't find
that type of info.  Perhaps that would be a nice edition to the web 
site once the dust settles from

the K3 rollout.

See you at Shelby!

73, Richard, AI4SH



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[Elecraft] Appalachian Trail on Saturday

2007-08-17 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

18 August 2007, Saturday, is to be around 75'F or 24'C. I plan on taking a 
short break from the past 3 weeks of solid 10 hour days and relax a little 
and hike on Saturday and play radio.


Not sure where I will be hiking too but it will be on the Appalachian 
Trail.


I will be using the K1 and the BW vertical on 40, 30, 20 and 15 meters 
between 15:00 UTC until 19:30 UTC.


I will try a band plan this time around and see how it works.

15:00 until 16:30 UTC = 7.030 MHz
16:30 until 17:00 UTC = 21.060 MHz

If I do not make any QSO's in the first 10 minutes on 15m I will go directly 
to 20 m.


17:00 until 18:30 UTC = 14.060 MHz
18:30 until 19:30 UTC = 10.106 MHz

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org/

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392


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Re: [Elecraft] RS 232 connection failure

2007-08-17 Thread David
Hello Bob,

I had this problem and tracked it down to a menu setting.  Look on page 86 of 
the K2 manual under the heading 'Using the menu'.  Tap [MENU] and select the 
sidetone level ST L.  Hold EDIT so that you get the sidetone output and can 
adjust the level.  If you can't hear anything from the speaker (assuming the 
level is high enough) tap [DISPLAY] and the LCD will alternate between U6-25 
and U8-4.  Tap [DISPLAY] until you get sidetone from your speaker.  The 
reason for all this that the RS-232 TXD output from the microcontroller used 
to control the sidetone in the original K2s.

Hope this helps.

73 de David VK5DG


On Saturday 18 August 2007 07:07, Bob Jones wrote:
 Hi
 my K2/100 Nr 5336 has fallen out with my PC - they've stopped talking
 to each other. I use microHAM's USB device router and a number of
 serial to USB adapters, all of which have worked fine until now. The
 same adapters work perfectly with my Icom rig but I get no response
 when the PC polls the K2. I use VQLog for general logging and
 Writelog for contests - neither will now work with the K2. Done the
 obvious stuff  - checking that the port is switched on at the K2 and
 checking all the connections on the DB9 adapter lead. I also use the
 KAT100 and have tried with it connected and disconnected - no
 difference.
 Any ideas on where I can start looking for the fault would be very
 welcome.

 73 Bob G3YIQ
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