Re: [Elecraft] K3 /w Transverter - bug or feature ?

2009-02-07 Thread John Lemay
Sascha

My K3 behaves like this too. It's not a big issue and I can live with it,
but it would be nice to see a fix in due course.

Regards

John G4ZTR

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 /w Transverter - bug or feature ?


Hello,

I'm using a MMT 144/28 Transverter with my K3 (#1115), latest FW beta rev.
2.80. Choosing FM with 5 KHz in transverter mode (XV 1) step will cause a
silly effect when I'll reach the end of 2m band (EU) at 145.995 /146.000
MHz. When tuning back down the step now is not 145.995 145.990 etc it is
145.997 145.992 etc. Still 5 KHz but shifted to the even frequency. So
I've to switch to fine tuning mode to set the step right to 145.xx5 . That
boulders me a little bit.

Hw ?

vy 73 de Sascha, DH2SE
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request

2009-02-07 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote ...

I like this idea also.  But then we also would need some way of knowing when
a message finishes.  For example, under computer control, if I send a TX
command to go into TX mode, then a command to start playing a message, the
radio has to let me know somehow when the message is finished, so that I can
send an RX command.

It has already been suggested that the MON level be set to a 
predetermined level when a message is being sent.  In that way you would 
actually hear the progress of the playback.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] Transverter offset

2009-02-07 Thread Terry Price
If you program an offset in CONFIG:XV1-9, it applies to whatever VFO you are
using.
 
73, Terry

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I need to put in an offset for 1296EME into the transmitted signal.
My question is, I am using VFO B in a split frequency, ie transmitting on B
and receiving on A.
Can I put the offset into VFO B or does the transverter offset only apply to
VFO A. I feel the manual is not
clear on this point.
 
Regards
Ross
ZL1WN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW request: enhanced TX TEST warning

2009-02-07 Thread David Cutter
Joe

It's not just incompetence, we, well me/I, need a little help when 
bleary-eyed from lack of sleep, say in contest when things go wrong ; as 
they do...

David
G3UNA


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To: 'Ian White GM3SEK' gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW request: enhanced TX TEST warning



 As a stronger warning that the K3 is in TX Test mode, would it
 be possible to flash the orange Delta-F LED as well as the
 tiny TX icon?

 Instead of doing that, why not simply hijack the VFO B display
 and flash TX TEST when in test mode?   The display is already
 there if you think users are so incompetent that they need hand
 holding.

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



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 As a stronger warning that the K3 is in TX Test mode, would it be
 possible to flash the orange Delta-F LED as well as the
 tiny TX icon?

 (Think of it as an extension of what Dick already does in the K3
 Utility, to signify that the rig is not available for use.)

 Reason for asking: Experienced user didn't notice he'd left
 the rig in
 Test mode. New user didn't notice the flashing TX icon, or
 that no power
 was going out... only that nobody was coming back to calls.
 Experienced
 user is in big trouble!



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Re: [Elecraft] WHY HIGH RF OUTPUT???

2009-02-07 Thread AD6XY

It is a common misconception that Bird Thrulines are a always accurate. 

They are good when operated into a matched load and when the signal does not
have a high harmonic content. If there is reflected power you need to make a
correction. If there are harmonics, even if at a low level, the sensor can
read much higher power than is actually present, even into a well matched
load. Bird Slugs can become damaged, mechanically or electrically and I have
even come across ones with the wrong label. 

So, I dispute any claim of accuracy of a power meter just because it is a
good make. All power meters can on occasion give incorrect readings.

The Bird 43 claims 5% of FSD accuracy. On a 250W slug an error of 12W. 180W
could, within the meter specification be 170W. Then the 250H slug also has a
frequency response.

To the problem in hand:

The low pass filtering in the K3 should prevent any over-reading being the
harmonics, unless there is a problem in the filters and assuming there is
not a mis-match, we have to assume this power is real.

Specs indicate approx 18A at 13.8V, which is 250W input for 100W output.  To
get 170W or even 180W output is possible, but I think the PA is unlikely to
be linear or long lived if used in this state. If the K3ALC is not working
the PA may well develop this much power. I would re-visit the power
calibration using the K3 utility. If that fails there is probably a fault.

A linear amplifier designed for SSB will normally be capable of much more
power than it's linear specification. Quite possibly double on the lower
bands where the efficiency may be higher. While the amplifier can produce
that power, the device may not survive the extra thermal stress.

Mike


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW request: enhanced TX TEST warning

2009-02-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Dave G4AON wrote:
 
 Part of that debate needs to include those like myself who often set
 their K3 to TX Test in order to avoid accidentally transmitting (paddles
 on the desk, foot switch, etc). Having flashing LEDs or large parts of
 the display flashing is very distracting when you are using the K3 as a
 receiver.
 
 My vote is to leave it alone.
 
 
Mine, too. I frequently use TX Test for similar reasons, and would find this
very annoying. I also occasionally find myself trying to transmit and
nothing happening because I left it in TX Test, but I have now learned the
reason for it. There are lots of stupid things one can do with a radio, one
cannot expect it to prevent all of them. It is really the responsibility of
anyone using a radio for the first time to learn how to drive it.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100: PSK31 at 50 watts Screen Shot

2009-02-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Bill Strong wrote:
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/billstrong50/DigitalMaster780#
 
 This is a screen shot by KG3BOZ of my K2/100 running 50 watts on 40M
 PSK31. It shows IMD -23. This is a distance of about 1400 miles from
 Mississippi to Maryland at about 0100 UTC. My antenna is a Cobra Ultralite
 Senior up 20 feet. I tune it with the KAT100 and a big DXE balun.
 
 I usually run 20 or 30 watts but I wanted to see if I could run 50 watts
 mainly for use on 80M. If I blow a small fan on the heat sink the internal
 fan rarely comes on at 50 watts during converstaional PSK31.
 
 I use the Data Mode with the ALC set to light one bar. I transmit in the
 middle of the bandpass of the 2.2K SSB filter at 1000Hz.
 
I would think an IMD of -23dB is barely acceptable. (My KK7UQ IMD meter
defines good as better than -23dB.) However IMD measurements received
off-air by software are not reliable and often show poorer readings than
actual because the SNR is not good enough. Looking at the trace on your
screenshot I would have said your IMD was better than -23dB.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 That said, a double beep if the PTT is activated in Test 
 mode would not be a bad idea. 
 
 
I think you're forgetting that TX TEST can be used to set up audio levels
and equalization, or to practise CW sending. These extra beeps or flashes
when people are using TX TEST for what it was originally intended would be
rather irritating.

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Re: [Elecraft] Kx-1. Dc power connector size

2009-02-07 Thread John R. Lonigro
Russ:
It uses a 5.5 x 2.1 mm power connector.  I don't have a KX-1, but I 
downloaded the manual at one point in time.  This morning I checked the 
parts list and I see the size of the connector isn't listed.  However, 
the part number is E620032, which is the same part number as the 
connector on my K2.  The K2 manual specifically lists the connector as a 
5.5 x 2.1 mm size, so there's your answer.

73's,
John AA0VE

Garrett, Russ wrote:

 Anyone know the size of the dc power connector (male) end that fits 
 into J1?  I need to construct a dc power cable (with a fuse) to 
 connect to a 13.7v battery.  I have searched the manual with no luck.

 Any assistance would be appreciate on the parts/construction of that 
 piece.

 73
 Russ
 Kd7mpk

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[Elecraft] Heil ProSet is sold

2009-02-07 Thread Jim Spears
The Heil ProSet I advertised a couple days ago is SOLD to Sid.  

 

Jim

N1NK

K3/100 S/N 2295

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Probe

2009-02-07 Thread W4HDM


Got one Thanks!

W4HDM-DAMON-K2#473



W4HDM wrote:
 
 I recently purchased a used K2 and I am doing the upgrades to the firmware
 etc. The rig did not come with the frequency counter probe or the parts to
 make one. Does anyone have a spare kit or assembled probe they would be
 willing to let go before I shell out the 10 bucks for a new one? Thanks in
 advance.   mycall(at)bellsouth.net  also good on QRZ
 
  
 
 W4HDM-DAMON-K2#473
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100: PSK31 at 50 watts Screen Shot

2009-02-07 Thread Bill Strong


Julian, G4ILO wrote:
 
 
 
 Bill Strong wrote:
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/billstrong50/DigitalMaster780#
 
 This is a screen shot by KG3BOZ of my K2/100 running 50 watts on 40M
 PSK31. It shows IMD -23. This is a distance of about 1400 miles from
 Mississippi to Maryland at about 0100 UTC. My antenna is a Cobra
 Ultralite Senior up 20 feet. I tune it with the KAT100 and a big DXE
 balun.
 
 I usually run 20 or 30 watts but I wanted to see if I could run 50 watts
 mainly for use on 80M. If I blow a small fan on the heat sink the
 internal fan rarely comes on at 50 watts during converstaional PSK31.
 
 I use the Data Mode with the ALC set to light one bar. I transmit in the
 middle of the bandpass of the 2.2K SSB filter at 1000Hz.
 
 I would think an IMD of -23dB is barely acceptable. (My KK7UQ IMD meter
 defines good as better than -23dB.) However IMD measurements received
 off-air by software are not reliable and often show poorer readings than
 actual because the SNR is not good enough. Looking at the trace on your
 screenshot I would have said your IMD was better than -23dB.
 

Thanks Julian for the observation. I did not know about the inaccuracy
although I did suspect over the air measurement might be different than in
the shack. The best IMD I have seen on DM780 is about -27 with a super
strong signal. I posted this because I thought it might be of interest to a
newby like myself. It took me a while reading on the internet to begin to
get a grasp of PSK31. Much of the best information has been on this forum.
73's
Bill 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem BFO

2009-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Andy,

I assume you are referring to Q2 on the Control Board.  It may be warm, 
but certainly not hot to the touch.  If Q2 is hot, then something is 
drawing excessive current.
Check for solder bridges on the RF board.  Particularly at those 
components that connect to the 8R voltage rail.  The schematic is a tool 
for identifying what is connected to 8R.  Download the pdf of the K2 
manual and use the search tool to find the 8R labels in the schematic.
How much current is the K2 drawing in receive?  Normal current draw on a 
completed K2 is 240 to 280 ma depending on the options.

After you have the 8R current draw to normal, then you can work on the 
BFO problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

Andreas Spilker wrote:
 Hello,
  
  last year I started up building my K2, now I can go on. I arrived at 
 the Alignment and Test Part Two.
 All was fine, but when I had to do the BFO Test the qrg was not 4908 
 kHz, but ..at the TP2  :-(
 also the Q2 was very hot. But I think that wasn't so the tests before, 
 so maybe something is wrong on the RF board?
 I only found D7 wasn't correct, I chnaged the sides, whereelse can i 
 check a problem of short circuit?
  
  73 de andy, dl1xas near Hamburg

 
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[Elecraft] Using CWT to determine 8-pole CW filter offsets (was: Shift pitch)

2009-02-07 Thread ni0c
On 27 Jan., W5UN wrote:

I have three 8 pole filters installed, 2.8, 1.8, and .4 kHz. As I 
rotate the WIDTH knob, the filters switch in and out at their 
transition frequencies (as they should). But when that switch occurs, 
the background noise pitch frequency seems to jump to a different 
SHIFT frequency setting.  In other words, the transition between 
filters is not smooth.

I am wondering if all K3's with 8 pole filters do the same thing as mine?

My filter offsets are all set to zero, as that is what I am told the 
8 pole filters offsets should be.


I've noticed the same thing happening when transitioning 
from the 250 Hz 8-pole filter to the 200 Hz 5-pole.  This 
morning, I noticed the CWT was a couple of notches to 
the left of center whenever the receiver was tuned to an
unoccupied frequency with the 8-pole filter.  (It was on
dead center with the other filters.)  

I then used the Elecraft K3 Utility to experiment with 
various offset numbers for the 8-pole filter. It only took 
a handful of trials before I came up with a setting of 
-0.09 that resulted in CWT being centered on noise 
and a satisfactory transition with the 5-pole filter.

Thanks to Elecraft for the MCU 2.80 firmware that 
allows the CWT to remain on all the time.

BTW, I really like AA6YQ's DXLab Commander program
for controlling the K3.  Among other nice features. it has
a convenient slide bar for adjusting the DSP width and shift.

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C
K2/10 s/n 5853
K3/100 s/n 1061   

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Re: [Elecraft] Transverter offset

2009-02-07 Thread ww2r2
If by offest you mean the transverter offset (config: XVxOF) it applies to
both VFOs.

This brings up another interesting K3 Xverter observation from the VHF
contest a few weeks ago

config: XVx RF allows only 3 digits of MHz, quite reasonably, because thats
all the display can show. However it is these 3 digits of MHz that the RS232
will report.

Example on 1296 with Xv4 RF set to 296 rs232 reports 296.100, which is not
recognised by the logging program as its not a ham band.

I have already asked elecraft for a feature request to allow 5 digits of MHz
to be entered in Config:XVx RF and be reported by rs232 but (as now) only
show 3 digits of MHz on the display

Currently the work around (on 1296) is to tell the logging program and the
F1EHN tracking software (for auto doppler correction)  i am using a xverter
with a 1 GHz local oscillator  so 296 appears as 1296 again

Dave

ww2r


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I need to put in an offset for 1296EME into the transmitted signal.
My question is, I am using VFO B in a split frequency, ie transmitting on B
and receiving on A.
Can I put the offset into VFO B or does the transverter offset only apply to
VFO A. I feel the manual is not
clear on this point.

Regards
Ross
ZL1WN
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[Elecraft] Outboard Audio Amp - K3

2009-02-07 Thread Don - K2PMC

I use 2 outboard non powered stereo speakers which work well with the K3. 
However, when I switch Noise Reduction and Dual PB in, the audio level drops
considerably.  I have a small 5 watt stereo amp with low impedance input and
would like to drive the speakes with it.  Having said that, I want to make
sure that will not cause a problem with the K3 KIO3 board.  Anyone have any
experience with this or suggestions?
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Re: [Elecraft] Outboard Audio Amp - K3

2009-02-07 Thread Phil LaMarche

I drive 2 bookcase speakers mounted on the wall facing me with a 100 watt
amplifier going to the K3.  It is wonderful and I have used this set up for
over 4 years.  The audio is full and nice to listen to.

Phil 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don - K2PMC
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:11 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Outboard Audio Amp - K3


I use 2 outboard non powered stereo speakers which work well with the K3. 
However, when I switch Noise Reduction and Dual PB in, the audio level drops
considerably.  I have a small 5 watt stereo amp with low impedance input and
would like to drive the speakes with it.  Having said that, I want to make
sure that will not cause a problem with the K3 KIO3 board.  Anyone have any
experience with this or suggestions?
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CWT to determine 8-pole CW filter offsets (was: Shift pitch)

2009-02-07 Thread Bill W4ZV



ni0c wrote:
 
 
 I then used the Elecraft K3 Utility to experiment with 
 various offset numbers for the 8-pole filter. It only took 
 a handful of trials before I came up with a setting of 
 -0.09 that resulted in CWT being centered on noise 
 and a satisfactory transition with the 5-pole filter.
 

-0.09 equals 90 Hz offset...very consistent with the ~80 Hz others have
measured in 8-pole filters.  This is no big deal for wider 8-poles but would
be a noticeable offset for the 400 and 250.

   73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request

2009-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Downs
It's a good point you make David. We have both mentioned that it would be 
good for the firmware to turn MON on (if it isn't on already) during the 
transmission of a recorded message, whether from M1-8 or AF Play. Also, 
Andy, as far as stopping tx under computer control is concerned, at present 
it stops automatically at the end of tx from M1-8, so could this just be 
left to happen under computer control, even if the start of tx and of 
playback were two separate steps? I agree with Giulio, however, that under 
manual control the one button press to tx a message from M1-8 is a great 
feature.

Whilst on the subject of the KDVR3, which I must say makes excellent 
recordings, I've noticed that a recording does not appear at LIN OUT unless 
it's set to =PHONES. I wonder why this is.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

In a recent message David G4DMP wrote:

 It has already been suggested that the MON level be set to a
 predetermined level when a message is being sent.  In that way you would
 actually hear the progress of the playback.

 In a recent message, Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote ...

I like this idea also.  But then we also would need some way of knowing 
when
a message finishes.  For example, under computer control, if I send a TX
command to go into TX mode, then a command to start playing a message, the
radio has to let me know somehow when the message is finished, so that I 
can
send an RX command.


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[Elecraft] DXpedition computer for K3

2009-02-07 Thread Linas


Hello Group,

In fact, any lap-top would do the job, it depends on the needs and the 
environment of the DX-pedition. Assuming, the DX-pedition involves 
traveling with lots of  vibrating, dust or humidity it is good to have a 
lap-top where nothing rotates in it, that is, NO Hard disk. I'm using 
succesfully  the Asus Eee PC 4G . The Hard disk is replaced in it by the 
card type disk (4 GB) and there is also a slot for an extra card (I  put 
8GB in). The RAM of 2GB allows for smooth running of all ham software I 
need (mainly N1MM and HRD) plus internet browsing.  Very useful feature 
of this type of  laptop - it only needs 9,5V  feeding. The screen of  
the first 700 series is a bit too small (7 inch), but now there are 
already  new versions of 900 series with the 9 inch screen.These come 
also with bigger card disk and Windows xp pre-installed.  All cost 
around 300EUR in Europe.

73 de Linas ON4BHP, K3 #1568 

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Subject: [Elecraft] DXpedition computer for K3


Does anyone use an ACER Netbook Aspire One with a K3?  I need something 
really light for my one-man DXpeditions.

Thanks in advance, Dave, W6AQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AF Limiter needs higher threshold

2009-02-07 Thread Ignacy

I use AF limiter a lot. Settings higher than 25 hurt my ears badly.
Ignacy



Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 
 There was a practice session for the Sprint contest on 
 Thursday evening. In the Sprint, one is frequently called by 
 several loud stations at once. I started out with fast agc, 
 max slope and highest threshold, but the multiple loud 
 callers were getting compressed together unless I 
 continuously rode the rf gain control.
 
 After a while I tried agc OFF, and that method was much 
 better for distinguishing stations by their loudness. 
 However, the AF limiter, even set at max 030, was frequently 
 kicking in, which really distorts the audio, so I was back 
 to riding the rf gain again.
 
 I think the AF Limiter should have the ability to be set 
 much higher than 030. Audio at level 030 is loud, but my 
 ears can take more than that. Maybe the current hard 
 limiting, with its gross distortion, could be made more 
 gradual. Maybe the fast agc slope and threshold could be 
 even steeper and higher. Otherwise, it's back to riding the 
 RF gain. For some reason, my TS-850 didn't exhibit this 
 problem. Maybe the 850's puny audio amp was self-limiting. 
 Whatever the reason, the 850 was a lot better in this 
 situation.
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, AZ
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AF Limiter needs higher threshold

2009-02-07 Thread Jim
AF limiterSET TO 13 HERE

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I use AF limiter a lot. Settings higher than 25 hurt my ears badly.
Ignacy



Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 
 There was a practice session for the Sprint contest on 
 Thursday evening. In the Sprint, one is frequently called by 
 several loud stations at once. I started out with fast agc, 
 max slope and highest threshold, but the multiple loud 
 callers were getting compressed together unless I 
 continuously rode the rf gain control.
 
 After a while I tried agc OFF, and that method was much 
 better for distinguishing stations by their loudness. 
 However, the AF limiter, even set at max 030, was frequently 
 kicking in, which really distorts the audio, so I was back 
 to riding the rf gain again.
 
 I think the AF Limiter should have the ability to be set 
 much higher than 030. Audio at level 030 is loud, but my 
 ears can take more than that. Maybe the current hard 
 limiting, with its gross distortion, could be made more 
 gradual. Maybe the fast agc slope and threshold could be 
 even steeper and higher. Otherwise, it's back to riding the 
 RF gain. For some reason, my TS-850 didn't exhibit this 
 problem. Maybe the 850's puny audio amp was self-limiting. 
 Whatever the reason, the 850 was a lot better in this 
 situation.
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, AZ
 
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[Elecraft] Specific firmware for blind/special needs

2009-02-07 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Why not create a separate firmware build for this purpose?  That way those
that don't need or want it won't mistakenly enable a beep feature by
accident.  

Mike W0MU

A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over. Ben Franklin


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO

Thinking some more about this, it seems to me the most logical indication
would be for the red TX LED to flash instead of illuminate constantly when
transmitting in test mode. This would not annoy anyone who has engaged test
mode to prevent accidental transmission, but would highlight the fact that
the rig is not actually transmitting when the PTT or key is pressed.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Bob Cunnings
I would annoy me if the red TX LED flashes continuously while in test
mode since I engage it when using the K3 in receiver only mode (e.g.
when listening around, so as to not accidentally transmit on top of a
monitored QSO). I find that the flashing TX icon is sufficient
indication of test mode. As one of those who always monitor power
output to confirm transmission, I also observe that in test mode zero
power out is indicated on the K3 front panel bar graph when I key
down. What more is necessary?

Bob NW8L

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thinking some more about this, it seems to me the most logical indication
 would be for the red TX LED to flash instead of illuminate constantly when
 transmitting in test mode. This would not annoy anyone who has engaged test
 mode to prevent accidental transmission, but would highlight the fact that
 the rig is not actually transmitting when the PTT or key is pressed.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Naumann
G4ILO said:

For the red TX LED to flash instead of illuminate constantly **when
transmitting**. (Asterisks added for emphasis).

He did not say to have it flash continuously while in test mode ... only if
you tried to transmit.

I don't think this would annoy anyone but I have to agree with my old friend
KR2Q that using the VFO B display to report that you are in test mode only
you try to transmit might be the best solution as it would not preclude or
cover up anything meaningful on the display.

73,

Bob W5OV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Err, Julian's proposal was for the TX LED to flash if you were trying to
transmit while in Test mode.  If you're just using the rig for an RX,
you'll not see that light.

Some people have their metering to reflect SWR/ALC, so the K3 power
indicator isn't the best indicator.

Me, I have no problem with the existing setup, but Julian's proposal
is as good as any.  Before I transmit intentionally, I look there
anyway to see where I'm transmitting, since my rig is likely to be in
SPLIT.  I tend to leave the rig in Test mode, anyway, so I don't
transmit unintentionally.  With a key, a mike, a footswitch and several
ways for software to TX, the cats have way too many ways to turn on
the TX.

73, doug

   Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:26:29 -0700
   From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com

   I would annoy me if the red TX LED flashes continuously while in test
   mode since I engage it when using the K3 in receiver only mode (e.g.
   when listening around, so as to not accidentally transmit on top of a
   monitored QSO). I find that the flashing TX icon is sufficient
   indication of test mode. As one of those who always monitor power
   output to confirm transmission, I also observe that in test mode zero
   power out is indicated on the K3 front panel bar graph when I key
   down. What more is necessary?

   Bob NW8L

   On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com wrote:
   
Thinking some more about this, it seems to me the most logical indication
would be for the red TX LED to flash instead of illuminate constantly when
transmitting in test mode. This would not annoy anyone who has engaged test
mode to prevent accidental transmission, but would highlight the fact that
the rig is not actually transmitting when the PTT or key is pressed.
   
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[Elecraft] 5B/G4MKP

2009-02-07 Thread terry burbidge
K3 #768 will be QRV from Limassol, Cyprus over 13-19 February. CW only
around 14.010MHz and 7.010MHz. I will try to give a few points on WPX RTTY
too.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: identify when in TEST mode

2009-02-07 Thread Bob Cunnings
Oh, sorry, I didn't read Julian's message correctly. As a CW op, I see
that in CW mode the TX LED flashes when transmitting in test mode,
following the keying. I fear that the whole point of the discussion
was lost on me, it's about an indication when using PTT modes.

While we are at it, I've argued before that if test mode is selected,
it should persist through a power cycle. Like you, I normally keep the
rig in test mode, and I'd rather not have to put it into test mode
every time I power up, as I must do now. It's like the safety on a gun
- if I put it on, I want it to remain that way until I explicitly
change it. That discussion, some time back (on this list), ran aground
on the shoals of the then I won't notice that tx is disabled when I
next power up objection, which led right into the present topic how
can the test mode be more loudly annunciated. The result that time
was a change to make the TX icon blink more rapidly, which works for
me.

This is certainly a subject that arouses great interest!

Bob NW8L


On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
fa...@panix.com wrote:
 Err, Julian's proposal was for the TX LED to flash if you were trying to
 transmit while in Test mode.  If you're just using the rig for an RX,
 you'll not see that light.

 Some people have their metering to reflect SWR/ALC, so the K3 power
 indicator isn't the best indicator.

 Me, I have no problem with the existing setup, but Julian's proposal
 is as good as any.  Before I transmit intentionally, I look there
 anyway to see where I'm transmitting, since my rig is likely to be in
 SPLIT.  I tend to leave the rig in Test mode, anyway, so I don't
 transmit unintentionally.  With a key, a mike, a footswitch and several
 ways for software to TX, the cats have way too many ways to turn on
 the TX.

 73, doug

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Re: [Elecraft] WHY HIGH RF OUTPUT??? (c/o AD6XY)

2009-02-07 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:38:36 -0800 (PST)
  AD6XY m.j.wil...@rl.ac.uk wrote:
 
 It is a common misconception that Bird Thrulines are a always accurate. 
 
 They are good when operated into a matched load and when the signal does not
 have a high harmonic content. If there is reflected power you need to make a
 correction. If there are harmonics, even if at a low level, the sensor can
 read much higher power than is actually present, even into a well matched
 load. Bird Slugs can become damaged, mechanically or electrically and I have
 even come across ones with the wrong label. 
 
 So, I dispute any claim of accuracy of a power meter just because it is a
 good make. All power meters can on occasion give incorrect readings.
 
 The Bird 43 claims 5% of FSD accuracy. On a 250W slug an error of 12W. 180W
 could, within the meter specification be 170W. Then the 250H slug also has a
 frequency response.
 
 To the problem in hand:
 
 The low pass filtering in the K3 should prevent any over-reading being the
 harmonics, unless there is a problem in the filters and assuming there is
 not a mis-match, we have to assume this power is real.
 
 Specs indicate approx 18A at 13.8V, which is 250W input for 100W output.  To
 get 170W or even 180W output is possible, but I think the PA is unlikely to
 be linear or long lived if used in this state. If the K3ALC is not working
 the PA may well develop this much power. I would re-visit the power
 calibration using the K3 utility. If that fails there is probably a fault.
 
 A linear amplifier designed for SSB will normally be capable of much more
 power than it's linear specification. Quite possibly double on the lower
 bands where the efficiency may be higher. While the amplifier can produce
 that power, the device may not survive the extra thermal stress.
 
 Mike
**

Mike OC,

Many, many thanks for a logical/definitive explanation!!!
Appreciated it greatly!

Jim/ee
S/N 2406

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[Elecraft] Reminder - UK Elecraft net Sundays 1000 local, 3630 KHz

2009-02-07 Thread Dave G4AON
The frequency is plus or minus the QRM. Note the
start time of 1000 hours to try and minimise
European QRM.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100, Acom 1000, dipole







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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100: PSK31 at 50 watts Screen Shot

2009-02-07 Thread Jay Bromley
HI Bill and Julian,
You can not go with the IMD readings in DM780.  I use the program all the 
time, Simon says this is one of things he is going to work on in the coming 
year.  In fact if you switch to MixW with the same signal you will see a 
huge jump/improvement in IMD readings.

I have also found by centering and Narrowing up the signal you can up the 
IMD readings as well.  I know the transmit IMD is not changing when I do 
this, so I think you just have to take most software IMD readings with the 
grain of salt.  They are useful if you understand the program's limitations.

The bottom line is KK7UQ meter and MixW reads pretty close, DM780 does not. 
However DM780 is the program of choice here except for RTTY.  Still using 
MMTTY because of FSK keying.

73 de jay/w5jay..




 Julian, G4ILO wrote:



 Bill Strong wrote:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/billstrong50/DigitalMaster780#

 This is a screen shot by KG3BOZ of my K2/100 running 50 watts on 40M
 PSK31. It shows IMD -23. This is a distance of about 1400 miles from
 Mississippi to Maryland at about 0100 UTC. My antenna is a Cobra
 Ultralite Senior up 20 feet. I tune it with the KAT100 and a big DXE
 balun.

 I usually run 20 or 30 watts but I wanted to see if I could run 50 watts
 mainly for use on 80M. If I blow a small fan on the heat sink the
 internal fan rarely comes on at 50 watts during converstaional PSK31.

 I use the Data Mode with the ALC set to light one bar. I transmit in the
 middle of the bandpass of the 2.2K SSB filter at 1000Hz.

 I would think an IMD of -23dB is barely acceptable. (My KK7UQ IMD meter
 defines good as better than -23dB.) However IMD measurements received
 off-air by software are not reliable and often show poorer readings than
 actual because the SNR is not good enough. Looking at the trace on your
 screenshot I would have said your IMD was better than -23dB.


 Thanks Julian for the observation. I did not know about the inaccuracy
 although I did suspect over the air measurement might be different than in
 the shack. The best IMD I have seen on DM780 is about -27 with a super
 strong signal. I posted this because I thought it might be of interest to 
 a
 newby like myself. It took me a while reading on the internet to begin to
 get a grasp of PSK31. Much of the best information has been on this forum.
 73's
 Bill

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[Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG

2009-02-07 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS
Just tuning up a new amplifier, less than 10W.  Previous to this 
(minutes) running fine barefoot.

Have K3/100/KAT3

Symptoms:  During auto-tune, instead of showing SWR it shows --, and 0.0 
W output in VFO B.

Also, after holding TUNE, the VFO B reads ERR TxG

Focusing on the K3, the manual says to contact Elecraft about ERR TxG, 
which I have done.  But in the mean time, what else can I try?  The manual 
says not to adjust anything.. I'm sort of stuck..  If this has happened to 
you, what did you do for resolving the problem?

Thanks,

-jeff
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG

2009-02-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Have you completed the Calibration Procedures section of the owner's manual?
These steps aren't optional.

If you haven't, perform the Synthesizer Calibration first, then the
Transmitter Gain Calibration which can accomplished fairly quickly with the
K3 Utility.  See the Configuration Tab, Calibrate Transmitter Gain button
and the K3 Utility Help page Transmitter Gain Calibration.  You'll need to
connect a dummy load to one of the K3 antenna connectors for this
calibration.

If you've done all these steps, there's a different issue that probably
deserves an e-mail to K3Support

73 de Dick, K6KR
  

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Wandling W7BRS
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:34 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG

Just tuning up a new amplifier, less than 10W.  Previous to this 
(minutes) running fine barefoot.

Have K3/100/KAT3

Symptoms:  During auto-tune, instead of showing SWR it shows --, and 0.0 
W output in VFO B.

Also, after holding TUNE, the VFO B reads ERR TxG

Focusing on the K3, the manual says to contact Elecraft about ERR TxG, 
which I have done.  But in the mean time, what else can I try?  The manual 
says not to adjust anything.. I'm sort of stuck..  If this has happened to 
you, what did you do for resolving the problem?

Thanks,

-jeff
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request

2009-02-07 Thread Andy Faber
David,
  Thanks.  Yes, but I want the computer to be able to tell directly.  Of 
course, if MON is set to a certain level, I suppose one could have the 
computer keep checking the MON level, but that is a pretty indirect approach 
to determining when the message has finished.
  73, andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
To: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com
Cc: Giulio Pico - IW3HVB iw3...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request


 In a recent message, Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote ...

I like this idea also.  But then we also would need some way of knowing 
when
a message finishes.  For example, under computer control, if I send a TX
command to go into TX mode, then a command to start playing a message, the
radio has to let me know somehow when the message is finished, so that I 
can
send an RX command.

 It has already been suggested that the MON level be set to a predetermined 
 level when a message is being sent.  In that way you would actually hear 
 the progress of the playback.

 73

 -- 
 David G4DMP
 Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG

2009-02-07 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS
Thanks.  Already emailed Elecraft.

re: Calibration; Done all those steps  months ago. Yes, I've calibrated 
per manual. It's been running fine for months.

Not a new build.  Just added a new outboard linear and was tuning it.  Was 
getting zero watts output.  Disconnected outboard amp and began trouble 
shooting the K3 itself barefoot.  Now at the point where no output and ERR 
TxG when using TUNE while in BYPASS.

-jeff


On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

 Have you completed the Calibration Procedures section of the owner's manual?
 These steps aren't optional.

 If you haven't, perform the Synthesizer Calibration first, then the
 Transmitter Gain Calibration which can accomplished fairly quickly with the
 K3 Utility.  See the Configuration Tab, Calibrate Transmitter Gain button
 and the K3 Utility Help page Transmitter Gain Calibration.  You'll need to
 connect a dummy load to one of the K3 antenna connectors for this
 calibration.

 If you've done all these steps, there's a different issue that probably
 deserves an e-mail to K3Support

 73 de Dick, K6KR


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Wandling W7BRS
 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:34 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG

 Just tuning up a new amplifier, less than 10W.  Previous to this
 (minutes) running fine barefoot.

 Have K3/100/KAT3

 Symptoms:  During auto-tune, instead of showing SWR it shows --, and 0.0
 W output in VFO B.

 Also, after holding TUNE, the VFO B reads ERR TxG

 Focusing on the K3, the manual says to contact Elecraft about ERR TxG,
 which I have done.  But in the mean time, what else can I try?  The manual
 says not to adjust anything.. I'm sort of stuck..  If this has happened to
 you, what did you do for resolving the problem?

 Thanks,

 -jeff
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[Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

2009-02-07 Thread bill wade
Took delivery yesterday. all seems well so far except I can't transmit 
using a Heil pro set plus I was using on an Omni. Need help.

Bill Wade Ai4pf
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

2009-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

Do you have the headset plugged into the rear panel?  If you plug it 
into the front panel mic jack, it will not work unless you use a Heil 
Kenwood adapter.
Set the menu to match where you plugged the mic, and adjust the mic gain.

73,
Don W3FPR

bill wade wrote:
 Took delivery yesterday. all seems well so far except I can't transmit 
 using a Heil pro set plus I was using on an Omni. Need help.

 Bill Wade Ai4pf
   

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

2009-02-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hi, Bill!

The microphone connection has a fair number of possibilities.

If you're using the front-panel 8-pin Foster connector, then you might be
using an inappropriate Heil adapter that bridges between the 1/8 mono
microphone plug and the K3.  For the Elecraft K3, you should be using Heil's
AD-1K, the red Kenwood adapter to match Elecraft's 8-pin front-panel
microphone jack. The blue Icom adapter won't work.

If you don't have one of those handy, you might try skipping the adapter and
plugging the 1/8 mono connector directly into the K3 back panel mic
connector.

The K3 has some front panel config and main menu options related to
microphone (which connector you're using, whether or not to add bias,
microphone gain range).  See the discussion of the Mic connector on the
Front Panel and Rear Panel pages of the K3 Owner's manual.

My best guess is that you might be using a Heil blue Icom adapter.

Dick, K6KR



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bill wade
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

Took delivery yesterday. all seems well so far except I can't transmit 
using a Heil pro set plus I was using on an Omni. Need help.

Bill Wade Ai4pf
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request

2009-02-07 Thread Matt Zilmer
In K22 mode (extended K2 cmds), try polling the K3 via the KY;
command.  When the response is KY2; from the rig, the message has
completed and the transmission is complete.  Polling twice a second is
probably adequate.

Remember that you have to send the K22; before transmitting, because
if you don't you will never see KY2; coming back.

P9 of the K3 Programmer's Manual, available on the Elecraft website
under Manuals and Downloads, will help here too.

73,
matt W6NIA
K3 #24

On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:46:52 -0800, you wrote:

David,
  Thanks.  Yes, but I want the computer to be able to tell directly.  Of 
course, if MON is set to a certain level, I suppose one could have the 
computer keep checking the MON level, but that is a pretty indirect approach 
to determining when the message has finished.
  73, andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
To: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com
Cc: Giulio Pico - IW3HVB iw3...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware request


 In a recent message, Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote ...

I like this idea also.  But then we also would need some way of knowing 
when
a message finishes.  For example, under computer control, if I send a TX
command to go into TX mode, then a command to start playing a message, the
radio has to let me know somehow when the message is finished, so that I 
can
send an RX command.

 It has already been suggested that the MON level be set to a predetermined 
 level when a message is being sent.  In that way you would actually hear 
 the progress of the playback.

 73

 -- 
 David G4DMP
 Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] K3 Coarse VFO tuning of offset for SSB vs CW

2009-02-07 Thread Bill Johnson
I have been using my coarse knob on SSB to make simple fast rate tuning of
SSB signals. It is just super!  On CW, however the rate doesn't
automatically change that I am aware of or have I missed somewhere. Because
I jump between the two I am wondering if I missed a per mode change rate?  I
increase bandwidth using the XFIL setting (I set up CW to work with the 2.8
8 pole and also have a 400 8 pole as well.)  Or, is this something that
could be added in firmware?


73,

Bill
K9YEQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Coarse VFO tuning of offset for SSB vs CW

2009-02-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
 I have been using my coarse knob on SSB to make simple fast rate tuning of
 SSB signals. It is just super!  On CW, however the rate doesn't
 automatically change that I am aware of or have I missed somewhere...

CONFIG: VFO CRS

Set the step size you want for the current mode.  Change modes while in 
this menu and set the step size for the next mode, mode.

I use this all the time in conjunction with the RIT knob.  Step size 
changes according to the mode I'm in.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] K3 ERR TxG bummer

2009-02-07 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS
Oh well, I guess there's not much else I can do.. Did all the firmware, reset, 
reload, etc..  Checked the coax, again. Checked the dummy load, again.

Seems like either the KAT3 is toast, or something else.  I'll call Elecraft on 
Monday for further instructions or advice.

Thanks to those who responded.

-jeff
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[Elecraft] K60XV Alignment Test Questions

2009-02-07 Thread Ken Alexander
I just completed my K60XV, have installed it in my K2 and am going through the 
Alignment and test procedures.

My voltages check out OK in the 40/60 Metre Alignment section.

Connect an antenna to the K2.  While listening to and noise or a weak signal 
(your typo, not mine)  peak the signal by adjusting C1 and C2.  I notice no 
difference when adjusting either of them.  Is it a subtle peak or sharp and 
pronounced?

I connect a dummy load and set the power to 2 watts.

Enter TUNE and adjust the two trimmers for maximum power output.  -- Well, I 
can adjust them and get anywhere up to 15 watts out.  But I don't think that's 
what you mean, is it?  If you want me to set the power output to 2 watts then I 
assume I should tune to get about that, shouldn't I?  What do you really want 
me to do here?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

73 - Ken Alexander, VE3HLS


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[Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread bill wade
Many thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the pin outs for both the 
k3 and the Omni 7 on the Heil website, and they look completely 
different.  I am wondering if that is my problem?

Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: RF Clipper works with Elecraft

2009-02-07 Thread Bill NY9H
ever since I out a G3LLL RF clipper in my first transceiver,,, and 
saw the difference...
I was convinced how effective RF clipping can be. G3LLL was careful 
to indicate that you should roll off the bottom end... so as to not 
totally overburden your powersupply with the extended duty cycle 
using such a device on ssb. I have played with and still have
Datong, Daiwa, MFJ and TenTec's earlier rf clippers.  When set 
properly you will NOT get complaints of turn off that processor... 
just compliments. Most recently using a slightly modified TenTec 
version.  With the latest iterations from Lyle on the K3...making it 
'crunch' better, I will be soon be looking for new home for the pile.

google on RF processing ssb
something to understand and appreciate on the K3 or other radios.

and I HATE bad audio...  nasty clipping effects, distracting distortions...etc

bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Naumann
Yes.

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Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

Many thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the pin outs for both the 
k3 and the Omni 7 on the Heil website, and they look completely 
different.  I am wondering if that is my problem?

Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Grant Youngman
Well, that's a good bet.

I think T-T uses the Yaesu pinout.  If that's different than Kenwood,  
then .. doh?  :-)

What if my 117v wall socket was wired differently in Dallas than it is  
in Boise?  Frankly, someone needs to bash some heads and get all of  
the vendors to standardize on a single 8-pin format.  Maybe Bob Heil  
has lobbied against it so he can sell more rig-specific cables? :-)

Grant/NQ5T


On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:31 PM, bill wade wrote:

 Many thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the pin outs for both  
 the
 k3 and the Omni 7 on the Heil website, and they look completely
 different.  I am wondering if that is my problem?

 Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
 ...Frankly, someone needs to bash some heads and get all of  
 the vendors to standardize on a single 8-pin format.

In the mid-1980s I was part of the ARRL's Digital Committee.  We tried 
very hard to get the major Amateur radio manufacturers to standardize 
this.  In our case, it was to make it easier on folks to hook up TNCs 
and computers tot heir radios.

We were politely told that it would be very difficult. This is 
polite-speak for Not a chance. :-/

Now, I think the best way to make this happen is for everyone to own a K3...

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2009-02-07 Thread Phil and Christina
Hi gang,

The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (Sunday, 2/8/09) at 1800Z.
We will start at 14.316 MHz, and QSY if needed.  The net control is in
western Oregon, but we will need a good east coast or midwest station to
relay a few west coast signals that may be too close to net control.  See
you there.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
But eventually they came up with the 6-pin mini-DIN DATA connector,
mostly used at VHF/UHF.  It is useable on HF on the IC-706 and IC-7000
and I had the same layout on my K2's when using the EA3BLQ interface.

It's not TOTALLY hopeless.

73, doug

   Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:09:13 -0800
   From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com

...Frankly, someone needs to bash some heads and get all of  
the vendors to standardize on a single 8-pin format.

   In the mid-1980s I was part of the ARRL's Digital Committee.  We tried 
   very hard to get the major Amateur radio manufacturers to standardize 
   this.  In our case, it was to make it easier on folks to hook up TNCs 
   and computers tot heir radios.

   We were politely told that it would be very difficult. This is 
   polite-speak for Not a chance. :-/

   Now, I think the best way to make this happen is for everyone to own a K3...

   73,

   Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K60XV Alignment Test Questions

2009-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken,

The normal procedure uses receive to peak the bandpass filter 
approximately correct.  Then that is followed by using transmit to 
refine that peak - the fact remains that one can observe the real peak 
better by watching the transmitted output power than by listening with 
the ears.

So, you did not find a real peak on receive - the result is that the 
bandpass was not tuned close to optimum when you did the transmit 
adjustment.  No problem, but you can observe the peak better at 2 watts 
than at 15 watts, so as the power increases, just exit TUNE and enter it 
again so the power again levels out to 2 watts, tune for a somewhat 
higher power, and if it goes to more than 5 watts, exit and re-enter 
tune again.  Keep doing that until you find the actual peak within the 2 
to 5 watt range, and you are done.

BTW, you may want to peak up the inductors for 40 meters before 
adjusting the caps for 60 meters.

73,
Don W3FPR

Ken Alexander wrote:
 I just completed my K60XV, have installed it in my K2 and am going through 
 the Alignment and test procedures.

 My voltages check out OK in the 40/60 Metre Alignment section.

 Connect an antenna to the K2.  While listening to and noise or a weak 
 signal (your typo, not mine)  peak the signal by adjusting C1 and C2.  I 
 notice no difference when adjusting either of them.  Is it a subtle peak or 
 sharp and pronounced?

 I connect a dummy load and set the power to 2 watts.

 Enter TUNE and adjust the two trimmers for maximum power output.  -- Well, 
 I can adjust them and get anywhere up to 15 watts out.  But I don't think 
 that's what you mean, is it?  If you want me to set the power output to 2 
 watts then I assume I should tune to get about that, shouldn't I?  What do 
 you really want me to do here?

 Thanks in advance for any assistance.

 73 - Ken Alexander, VE3HLS
   

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[Elecraft] [K3] DSP Modification

2009-02-07 Thread W0JFR

There is an ad on eHam for K3 #1055. He says he sent it back to Elecraft and
had DSP board mod for enhanced RX/TX fidelity.

Does anyone know what he's talking about?
  - John, W0JFR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Jim
Bill, the adapter you probably have for your ProSet is the one with the
yellow band (Yaesu), you need to rewire it (Wiring Diagram is in the K-3
manual)or get the Heil adapter with the red band (Kenwood). Then you should
be ok.

73 de KE4WY Jim

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Many thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the pin outs for both the 
k3 and the Omni 7 on the Heil website, and they look completely 
different.  I am wondering if that is my problem?

Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DSP Modification

2009-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

Sounds like 'specmanship' to me.  I don't know about any mod like that.

73,
Don W3FPR

W0JFR wrote:
 There is an ad on eHam for K3 #1055. He says he sent it back to Elecraft and
 had DSP board mod for enhanced RX/TX fidelity.

 Does anyone know what he's talking about?
   - John, W0JFR
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

2009-02-07 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
The K-3 requires a microphone cable configured to the Kenwood standard.  I'm
not sure about the Omni, but my Orion II uses a Yaesu standard cable.  You
may want to check.  I suspect the foster connector pins are miswired for the
K-3.  You may also want to be sure the bias is off as I believe that is
probably a dynamic microphone element rather than an electret.  You may also
wish to check with Heil.  I believe they sell an appropriate dongle for the
pro set would work with the K-3.

Bruce-W8FU

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Took delivery yesterday. all seems well so far except I can't transmit 
using a Heil pro set plus I was using on an Omni. Need help.

Bill Wade Ai4pf
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DSP Modification

2009-02-07 Thread Bob Cunnings
A while back Wayne posted a message about such a DSP board mod on the
Yahoo Groups list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/message/2881

Bob NW8L

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 John,

 Sounds like 'specmanship' to me.  I don't know about any mod like that.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Ignacy

K3 requires only an audio connector in the back; with a foot switch it cannot
be any easier.This is a welcome change about other radios where one had to
fix connectors, and then often care about RF pickup!
Ignacy





bill wade wrote:
 
 Many thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the pin outs for both the 
 k3 and the Omni 7 on the Heil website, and they look completely 
 different.  I am wondering if that is my problem?
 
 Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DSP Modification

2009-02-07 Thread W0JFR

I got the following response from the seller:

Have you considered that maybe its not listed because they don't want anyone
else doing it but Elecraft?
Ask Wayne, Rene,  Eric @ Elecraft. They can tell you all about it. Also
contact AD4C, he had it done to his K3. Mine maybe only the third or forth
one modded. The name aptly describes the mod.

Do you really think Elecraft has secret K3 modifications?
  - John, W0JFR



W0JFR wrote:
 
 There is an ad on eHam for K3 #1055. He says he sent it back to Elecraft
 and had DSP board mod for enhanced RX/TX fidelity.
 
 Does anyone know what he's talking about?
   - John, W0JFR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DSP Modification

2009-02-07 Thread W0JFR

I emailed the seller and this is his response:

Have you considered that maybe its not listed because they don't want 
anyone else doing it but Elecraft?
Ask Wayne, Rene,  Eric @ Elecraft. They can tell you all about it. Also 
contact AD4C, he had it done to his K3. Mine maybe only the third or 
forth one modded. The name aptly describes the mod.

???
   - John


Don Wilhelm-4 (via Nabble) wrote:
 John,
 
 Sounds like 'specmanship' to me.  I don't know about any mod like that.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 W0JFR wrote:
   There is an ad on eHam for K3 #1055. He says he sent it back to 
 Elecraft and
   had DSP board mod for enhanced RX/TX fidelity.
  
   Does anyone know what he's talking about?
 - John, W0JFR


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[Elecraft] k3 transmit problem

2009-02-07 Thread bill wade
I am new to the k3 and this reflector. I must say that I am hugely 
impressed with both. I never fully realized 8-pin connectors could vary 
so much in their wiring. Come Monday I think I'll invest $20.00 and get 
the Kenwood adapter from Heil.
Thanks again to All.
 
Bill Ai4PF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM

2009-02-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 But eventually they came up with the 6-pin mini-DIN DATA 
 connector, mostly used at VHF/UHF. 

Except that's STILL not uniform ... pin 4 is variously 9600 
baud receive audio on  (Icom, Yaesu), FSK input (Yaesu 
FT-450/950) or unused (Kenwood).  

 It is useable on HF on the IC-706 and IC-7000 

IC-703, IC-706mkIIg and IC-7000 only.  Icom did not add it to 
either of their newest transceivers (7200 or 7700). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



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 Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 6:26 PM
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 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 TRANSMIT PROBLEM
 
 
 But eventually they came up with the 6-pin mini-DIN DATA 
 connector, mostly used at VHF/UHF.  It is useable on HF on 
 the IC-706 and IC-7000 and I had the same layout on my K2's 
 when using the EA3BLQ interface.
 
 It's not TOTALLY hopeless.
 
 73, doug
 
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:09:13 -0800
From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
 
 ...Frankly, someone needs to bash some heads and get all of  
 the vendors to standardize on a single 8-pin format.
 
In the mid-1980s I was part of the ARRL's Digital 
 Committee.  We tried 
very hard to get the major Amateur radio manufacturers to 
 standardize 
this.  In our case, it was to make it easier on folks to 
 hook up TNCs 
and computers tot heir radios.
 
We were politely told that it would be very difficult. This is 
polite-speak for Not a chance. :-/
 
Now, I think the best way to make this happen is for 
 everyone to own a K3...
 
73,
 
Lyle KK7P 
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[Elecraft] Was: K3-Transmit problem, now standards

2009-02-07 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
From Joe, W4TV:
 But eventually they came up with the 6-pin mini-DIN DATA
 connector, mostly used at VHF/UHF.

Except that's STILL not uniform ... pin 4 is variously 9600
baud receive audio on  (Icom, Yaesu), FSK input (Yaesu
FT-450/950) or unused (Kenwood).  

I call those extensions, not incompatibilities- The FT-817 also has
the same one.  Note that Pauli and I arrived at that connector
independently of each other.  

 It is useable on HF on the IC-706 and IC-7000

IC-703, IC-706mkIIg and IC-7000 only.  Icom did not add it to
either of their newest transceivers (7200 or 7700).

It's apparently aimed mostly at VHF/UHF rigs for packet, and since
those larger rigs don't cover that market  It is there on the
IC-746PRO, which does cover 2M.

There are VHF/UHF only rigs that have a compatible connector.  The
Kenwood 733 has one, with the 9600 connection, too, just like the ICOM
and Yaesu radios.  I have no solid information about any of the Alinco's.

That's pretty close to a standard.

73, doug

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 purchase

2009-02-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
Hello James!

1. Is separate band tuning now available with the sub-receiver
   option?  In other words, can I monitor 20m on the primary, and
   listen to 10m FM or SSB on the sub (granted the appropriate
   filters are in place on both receivers)?

Firmware to do this is in pre-Beta with an expanded test group 
exercising it.  I make no predictions as to when it will be in Beta, but 
I'd be surprised if it isn't very, very soon.

2. If ordered today, have all of the updates that were mentioned in
   the K3’s Enhancements and Application Notes page been
   incorporated?  I.e. KPA3 12v sense mod?

When you place the order, request that the radio have all mods in place.

3. Can Elecraft sell me a built transverter (I have no soldering
   station, and my skills with an iron are rusty)?

There is a list of builders-for-hire on the website that can build a 
transverter for you.

4. The general coverage receive module instruction’s wording sounds
   vague regarding installation.  It uses the word ‘either’ with
   regards to the module’s location; either the sub receiver or main
   RF board is what it sounds like.  I am assuming however that this
   module can in fact be installed on both receivers?

Yes.  I have one in my K3 and another in my KRX3.

 Thanks to all ahead of time for answering my questions.  I hope to have 
 my K3 soon.

Welcome aboard!

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2009-02-07 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   Another very fine week has passed.  Weather has been good and today was very 
nice.  However, that will soon come to an end.  Tomorrow we are due for a snow 
shower which will last at least until Wednesday if not longer.  That being said 
the band was much nicer Friday than it had been earlier in the week.  A solar 
wind stream from a coronal hole hit the earth's ionosphere.  During its travel 
it snapped off the tail of Comet Lulin.  The good news is: it will grow back 
and the comet is now a naked eye object in Aries.  For those of you with clear, 
pre-dawn skies take a look near Zubenelgenubi and you'll find the blue-green 
glow of cyanogen ions indicating the coma.  Binoculars or a small telescope 
will reveal both tails.  The anti-tail of dust and the more common ion tail 
which is pushed away by the solar wind. 

Please join us tomorrow evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)
 
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz

   Stay warm,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] ECN Error!

2009-02-07 Thread Kevin Rock
Make that Libra, not Aries!  Ooops.  Libra is east of Virgo along the ecliptic.

Kevin.  
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