Re: [Elecraft] New KX2 firmware to test; provides two sets of ATU data and LC value display

[Mark via Elecraft]

Excellent, Wayne!  Now I wish I had a KX2 to test it on.  I guess my KX3 will 
have to wait.

Mark
KE6BB

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[Elecraft] [K2] Classic Elecraft K2 kit for sale

[ve5hf]

In original packaging from Elecraft with Manual.
Pristine condition- unassembled - ready to build kit. 
  (K2 has regular through-hole not surface mount components)
  (Pre-wound Toroids included - tuned and ready to install)

 
 
Elecraft K2 Price List. 
-
K2 HF 10-80M Transceiver $769.95 
K160RX K2 160M / 2nd RX Antenna $59.95   
KSB2 K2 SSB Option $129.95 
KNBR K2 Noise Blanker $59.95 
KIO2 K2 AUX I/O RS-232 Interface $99.95   
KBT2-X K2 Internal Battery Bracket Kit $49.95   
K2VCO K2 VCO Shield Mod Kit  $10.00
MH2 Hand Microphone $59.00 
Pre-wound Toroid Kit $75.00 
  

Total Retail Price $1300 (plus shipping and taxes)

Asking $950 - shipping included.

73's  Terry




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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Sabrent USB 2.0 to Serial (9-Pin) DB-9 RS-232 Adapter Cable 6ft Cable [FTDI 
Chipset] (CB-FTDI)
Available on amazon for about 14 dollars 
They work well







 Original message 
From: Paul Huff  
Date: 2017-03-30  9:43 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Elecraft Email List  
Subject: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 

I am adding a KIO2 to my Elecraft K2 and will of course build the required 
interface cable per the Elecraft instructions.  But my computer will require 
adapting the serial connection to a USB.  I have heard that some adapters work 
well and others do not.  I would be interested in hearing specific brand 
suggestions for a good adapter.

Thanks and 73,

Paul - N8XMS
NAQCC President
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 50

[John Perlick]

Re: Higher Power Amps

Personally I want an amp that will load at 1500 Watts.  Like my Alpha 87A or 
before it my All would state RF-3230--both had loads of design margin at 1500 W 
output.  That give me comfort that the amp going to last a very long time.
K0UM
John Perlick

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>   1. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
>   2. OT; New technology/Graphene (Richard Fjeld)
>   3. Re: K3/100  +  P3  **Update** (Phil Hystad)
>   4. KX line future accesories (David Satterwhite)
>   5. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ken K6MR)
>   6. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (Rick WA6NHC)
>   7. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
>   8. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Gerard Elijzen)
>   9. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ken K6MR)
>  10. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>  11.  FCC R approves 630m ham band (Emory Schley)
>  12. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Bill Frantz)
>  13. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Bill Frantz)
>  14. KX2 Weighted Knob (Doug Millar)
>  15. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Charlie T, K3ICH)
>  16. Re: KX2 Weighted Knob (Chris Tate - N6WM)
>  17. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (Edward R Cole)
>  18. Re: Mounting a KX3+PX3 ? (David Anderson)
>  19. Re: KX2 Weighted Knob (Harry Yingst)
>  20. Re: Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Jim Allen)
>  21. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 49 (Patrick Lynch)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:20:06 + (UTC)
> From: Harry Yingst 
> To: "donw...@embarqmail.com" ,  Elecraft Email
>List 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
> Message-ID: <1917436095.710358.1490908806...@mail.yahoo.com>
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> For my use it fits my needs better as?I do not plan to use Elecrafts 
> Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely.
> So it becomes a simpler solution.
>
>
>
>  From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: Harry Yingst ; Elecraft Email List 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
>
> Harry,
>
> OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
> You will have some problems to solve if using that device.
>
> First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V)
> instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need
> some more logic circuits to make it work.
>
> 2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft
> accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters.? If you ever
> want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".
>
> 3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
> Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and
> polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not
> just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground.? You would have to make extensive
> modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not
> have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft
> accessory boxes.
>
> Simple "solutions" are often complex.? It is easier to use an external
> USB to serial adapter IMHO.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 3/30/2017 3:43 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
>>
>> Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
>>
>> USB straight to the K2
>>
>>
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:22:46 +
> From: Richard Fjeld 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT; New technology/Graphene
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> (If this has been mentioned before, I apologize.)
>
> In looking for information on new battery technology, I found some
> interesting talks on YouTube about Graphene tied to battery development.
>
> Graphene is revolutionary.  Relative to an Electron, the thickness of
> Graphene is said to be two 

Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Who does that on HF? I was assuming we were talking about 160-10 meters. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Charlie T, K3ICH
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:35 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

In some cases a dB or so CAN make a difference.  Otherwise, why bother to
put a ½dB noise figure GaAsFET pre-amp at the antenna just to overcome 2dB
of feedline loss?

At the other extreme, if you are being received at 20dB over S-9 running a
kilowatt, you'll still be S-5 at 100 milliwatts.


73, Charlie k3ICH

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Re: [Elecraft] 630m band for K3s

[Jim Miller]

and of course that would mean a XVTR IF of zero.

jim ab3cv

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:

> Now that 630m is approved in many places including the US and since the
> K3s can output there how about making it a proper selectable band rather
> than accessible only by the TEST mode.
>
> This should only be a SMOP. ;-)
>
> 73
>
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[Elecraft] New KX2 firmware to test; provides two sets of ATU data and LC value display

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi all,

I have a lot of firmware in progress on several different radios, but the idea 
of having two sets of ATU data was irresistible, so I added it to the KX2 to 
try it out. I’ll port it to the KX3, too.

There’s now a menu entry called ATU DATA, with two selections:  SET 1 and SET 
2. Each provides ATU settings for all bands (up to 32 segments per). I’m using 
SET 1 for home and SET 2 for field operation.

I also changed the way the CLR function (OFS knob hold) works. Now, if you’re 
in either the ATU DATA or ATU MD menu entries, holding CLR only clears the 
network values for the *presently selected* ATU data set (on the present band). 
Thus you can arrive at your campsite, etc., select SET 2, then do a CLR on each 
band if you’d like, without messing up your SET 1 data. 

(Doing a CLR is a good idea with any new antenna on a given band. With fairly 
low-Q antennas, you may then only have to do an ATU tune at the middle of each 
band. The ATU always uses data for the closest of the 32 segments on each band 
that has non-zero data, even if there’s just one segment pre-tuned.)

To verify that the ATU DATA feature working, I added another new function. 
While you’re in the ATU DATA or ATU MD menu entries, you can tap “ATU” to see 
the present LC network values. It’s a little cryptic but still useful. The 
format is Lxx.Cxx.Nx, where:

Lxx or Cxx = L or C relay settings in hexadecimal
Nx = Network C in/out relay setting, either A = antenna side of inductor, 
or T = TX side.

Someone armed with the KXAT2 schematic could write a little program that 
converts xx into microhenries and picofarads. I’d do it myself if I had the 
spare time.

If anyone else would like to give the new firmware a whirl, please email me 
directly. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Luke via Elecraft]

My wish list includes a mini hand mic without the spiral cable for hiking/SOTA 
applications. The KX2 is so small and light the stretchy mic cable often yanks 
the radio out of position - especially when you have it sitting on a rock on 
the ground. Just use the same cable as what is used for the audio cables, and 
make it 3 or 4 feet long. A smaller mic housing would be great as well. The MH3 
is massive in relation to the KX2.
I realize memory is probably very tight, but if we could somehow get 2 minutes 
of continuous recording, it would be possible to record a WSPR transmission and 
transmit it manually in the field without a computer/smartphone.
I would also love to see the option to replace all the knobs on the KX2 with a 
low profile set, so the entire radio is more compact, and fits better inside of 
the various Pelican cases and carrying pouches. In the field I don't spin the 
knobs much anyway.
If the hardware is capable, a dimmable backlight would be handy.
I'm all for any new or more convenient portable antennas. Whether they're wire 
or compact loaded whips (like the MFJ-18xx series). 
Compact battery charger for the KX2. The standard charger is huge.
Thanks!LukeAD0KI
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Jim H via Elecraft]

Hi,
I would like to have new card for the KX2. Replace the KXIO2 Aux/RTC card  
with a RTC/IQ to send IQ to a PX3. The PX3 is great with the KX3, now how 
about  the KX2?
73,
Jim H
K7SSS
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2017 6:42:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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Hi  all,

The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes  us want 
to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails,  beaches, 
and summits. This is what the KX-line is all about. 

Here's  your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future 
accessories,  antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?  

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[Wayne Burdick]

Someday. Thanks for all the input!

Wayne
N6KR



> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:36 AM, John Dolan  wrote:
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> I am watching these posts with great interest and anticipation!
> Can't wait to see what develops with the actual amp.
> 
> 73, John WB4YAL
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[Elecraft] K3/P3 Tracking VFO B?

[K9MA]

I'd like to try SO2V mode, but VFO B must be used for tuning around, as 
only the subreceiver can be automatically silenced when someone answers 
a CQ.  (The main receiver does not need to be silenced often, because 
one wouldn't be listening to the subreceiver if someone were calling.)  
However, it would be really useful to be able to see CW signals on the 
P3, with a 10 kHz span, when tuning the band with VFO B.  As far as I 
can tell, the P3 only tracks VFO A, so nothing can be seen if VFO B is 
outside the span range.  Is there a way to make it keep the VFO B cursor 
on the screen, in both the tracking and fixed modes, without setting the 
span wider?


If worse comes to worst, I can use a foot switch to switch the audio 
between receivers, but I'd rather not.


73,

Scott  K9MA

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[Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bob Witmer]

First on my list would be a version of the KX3 Utility and any required 
associated interface HW, that could directly interface with IOS devices.

Bob W3RW
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Bill Johnson]

Ron, from my Signal Corps training, we operated under the fact that 10db 
improvement was needed to experience a doubling of perceived sound.  Since our 
signals are rf radiated sound, the same would apply. 

73,
Bill
K9YEQ



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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau 
Claire
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:01 PM
To: 'Richard Thorne' ; 'Elecraft Reflector' 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call 
sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.

Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial 
operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on the 
air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the signal 
while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those stations would 
not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.

In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1 
through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal with 
perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals, choosing 
between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference to an 
S-meter.  

Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB 
improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag 
chew - and I don't contest. 

And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my 
Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and 
restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come back 
more quickly. Expectations are everything!

73, Ron AC7AC





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken K6MR
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:27 PM
To: Richard Thorne; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those 
questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work 
lots of people with 1000+ W.  I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work better 
on 160.


I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here) "If 
you feel loud you are loud".


Ken K6MR



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Richard Thorne 

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500 watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain, make a 
difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so 
maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not having 
a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

As there seems to be some confusion on your part I would suggest that 
downloadand Read The Data Sheet for the "DB9-USB family of USB to UART 
Converters"
Available Here :  http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/163/DS_DB9-USB-15654.pdf
You will then understand what it is and how it functions.









  From: Fred Jensen 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
   
OK Harry, as you wish, but just DO NOT plug a USB-Serial adapter cable 
into the DE-9 connector on the back of the K2 ... unless you strive to 
have Don repair it for you afterward. The connector on the back of your 
K2 is *NOT* an RS-232 serial port.  It does have 2 standard RS-232 wires 
in it [3 if you count signal ground], but all the other pins are 
internal signals at TTL levels and will not tolerate RS-232 signal 
levels which can range up to +/-12V.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

   
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[K9MA]

While a couple dB may be hard to detect in a single QSO, averaged over 
many QSO's I think it makes a difference.  In the course of, say a 
contest weekend, that small difference means that, on the average, you 
will get through just a little more often and quickly, and you'll get a 
few more replies to your CQ's.  It adds up, even if it's hard to measure.


73,

Scott  K9MA


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[Elecraft] 630m band for K3s

[Jim Miller]

Now that 630m is approved in many places including the US and since the K3s
can output there how about making it a proper selectable band rather than
accessible only by the TEST mode.

This should only be a SMOP. ;-)

73

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Bill Johnson]

:-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ




-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred 
Jensen
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:48 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn


On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

[Wayne Burdick]

In response to various comments on the KX2 knob (today and earlier): 

Our goal for the KX2 was to make it really lightweight. Light enough to be used 
as an HT. Goat-optional on longer hikes. 

Even 1 ounce of additional weight can increase fatigue when holding a device 
(try, for example, carrying around an iPhone 7 vs. an iPhone 7+). So we 
designed a low-profile plastic VFO A knob that is big enough to get the job 
done. 

Another reason not to use a heavier knob is that the KX2’s VFO encoder is 
itself a compact unit that has a sleeve bearing. Weighted knobs should in 
general be used only with heavier, ball-bearing style encoders. On this 
encoder, a heavy knob would shorten the rotational life.

Regarding adding a dimple: I’ve tried knobs this size with dimples and found 
that they were hard to use. A matter of taste and fingertip size, I guess. 
Meanwhile, the present knob can be “spun” to a certain degree by putting light 
finger pressure on the rim. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier

[Michael Walker]

I would like


   - Attractive Price Point
   - 220VAC (given)
   - 1 antenna port
   - full RS232 or TPC/IP remote control
   - Good self protection due to antenna issues.
   - No tuner
   - No multiple antenna ports
   - Good metering for power, current, temp, etc...

In other words, make a great amp, by simple and bullet proof.  Leave the
antenna switching, tuners, etc to other devices.

Keep the price down.  By doing this, it makes it simple to support as a
company and easy to build.

You'll sell more by doing this.

73, Mike va3mw


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:42 PM, ab4iqkf4cxo  wrote:

> I personally would like to have a solid state amp capable of 1500 watts.  I
> have an Alpha 9500 and Palstar HF-Auto that works just fine but I enjoy the
> way my KPA500/KAT500 along with the K3S works seamlessly with one another.
> Surely a solid state amp and tuner could replace my present setup with less
> real estate.   I took the time to train my KAT500 with my antennas and
> really works nice.  With my other setup the Palstar has to do its thing
> with
> RF applied and the alpha has to do its thing.  The Alpha takes three
> minutes
> to warm up and the KPA500 instantaneous and has 6 meters as well where the
> Alpha does not.  I'm not degrading the Alpha and Palstar at all because
> they
> do work and quite well.
>
>
>
> Ed.. AB4IQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Erik Basilier]

Being able to clearly "hear the difference" might be a good criterion if you
are focused on the individual contact. If you are in a contest, making
hundreds of contacts, 1 dB makes a meaningful difference even if you cannot
hear the difference on any of the contacts.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
D'Eau Claire
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: 'Richard Thorne' ; 'Elecraft Reflector'

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call
sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.

Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial
operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on
the air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the
signal while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those
stations would not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.

In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1
through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal
with perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals,
choosing between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference
to an S-meter.  

Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB
improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag
chew - and I don't contest. 

And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my
Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and
restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come
back more quickly. Expectations are everything!

73, Ron AC7AC




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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Fred Jensen]

OK Harry, as you wish, but just DO NOT plug a USB-Serial adapter cable 
into the DE-9 connector on the back of the K2 ... unless you strive to 
have Don repair it for you afterward. The connector on the back of your 
K2 is *NOT* an RS-232 serial port.  It does have 2 standard RS-232 wires 
in it [3 if you count signal ground], but all the other pins are 
internal signals at TTL levels and will not tolerate RS-232 signal 
levels which can range up to +/-12V.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 3/30/2017 2:20 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

For my use it fits my needs better as I do not plan to use Elecrafts 
Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely.
So it becomes a simpler solution.



   From: Don Wilhelm 
  To: Harry Yingst ; Elecraft Email List 

  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

Harry,


OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
You will have some problems to solve if using that device.

First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V)
instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need
some more logic circuits to make it work.

2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft
accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters.  If you ever
want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".

3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and
polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not
just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground.  You would have to make extensive
modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not
have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft
accessory boxes.

Simple "solutions" are often complex.  It is easier to use an external
USB to serial adapter IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Don Wilhelm]

With 2m/70cm FM handhelds on the market selling for $35 to $100, I would 
think it unwise for Elecraft to attempt to delve into that market, even 
if it included multi-mode.


Yes, an All-Mode 2m/70cm transceiver would be attractive (and they 
exist), but I suspect the current price point for those transceivers 
would not be attractive to Elecraft.


In addition, Elecraft is dedicated to quality products, while the 
current competition does not seem to be similarly dedicated - "sell them 
as cheaply as you can" and hope the sales volume will make up for the 
deficiencies seems to be the current focus.


It seems to me that most activity on 2M/70cm is FM, and those doing 
other modes are a select (small) group.


So if you are among those who desire SSB, CW, and modes other than FM on 
2m/70CM, then let your voices be heard, but until there is a significant 
amount of operating those bands in your favorite style, your choices of 
ready built equipment will be small.


As a parallel, I recall when I was starting out in ham radio (1950s) 
that there was little commercial gear for VHF (50MHz and above).  Those 
who delved into VHF operation were experimenters and pioneers who built 
their own transmitters and receivers.  At that time the Technician Class 
license was one for experimenters, and not an entry license.


The Heathkit 6er and 2er changed some of that and opened the VHF 
spectrum to many more hams - that was AM rather than FM.


73,
Don W3FPR

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/30/2017 6:06 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

The 2M option for the KX3 supports transmit at about 3W output. See:


Let me add, there are a lot of new hams with tech licenses. Many of them
came to ham radio from an interest in community services ARES/RACES etc.
They primarily use 2M and 70cm FM repeaters and simplex. It would be
good for the hobby to have a radio which supported these FM uses and
opened the possibility of other modes and bands. The Yaesu 8900 almost
meets this requirement, except it only does FM. There is a very useful
tech SSB subband on 10M which this radio just misses supporting.

I'm sure that some of them would want a high quality, US built, radio
that met their needs plus a little. Call it, "The gateway radio".

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 49

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>   1. Fwd:  Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Carl J?n Denbow)
>   2. Amplifier (ab4iqkf4cxo)
>   3. Mounting a KX3+PX3 ? (Colin Haig (VE3MSC))
>   4.  Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (j...@kk9a.com)
>   5. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>   6. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>   7. Future KX3/KX2 Accessories? (Dauer, Edward)
>   8. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>   9. Fwd:  Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (sancho)
>  10. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Richard Thorne)
>  11. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Paul Bryan)
>  12. http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm (Edward R Cole)
>  13. FCC R approves 630m ham band (Edward R Cole)
>  14. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Mel Farrer)
>  15. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
>  16. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (Wayne Burdick)
>  17. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Harry Yingst)
>  18. Re: [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (LA8AW)
>  19. Re: Future KX3/KX2 Accessories?   [Thanks!] (Wayne Burdick)
>  20. Improved KX2 knob (Emory Schley)
>  21. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (donov...@starpower.net)
>  22. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Don Wilhelm)
>  23. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories (Brian D. Comer)
>  24. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (Fred Jensen)
>  25. Re: FCC R approves 630m ham band (Doug Smith)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:39:16 -0400
> From: Carl J?n Denbow 
> To: Elecraft Mail List 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd:  Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Carl J?n Denbow 
>> Date: March 29, 2017 at 9:46:06 PM EDT
>> To: Wayne Burdick 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> 
>> That's easy, Wayne.  I'd love to see an internal soundcard module for 
>> digital mode operation, like one can do with the K3s. 73 de Carl N8VZ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ===
>> Carl J?n Denbow, N8VZ
>> 17 Coventry Lane
>> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>> 
>> c...@n8vz.com
>> www.n8vz.com
>> EM89wh
>> 
>> IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070
>> 
>> PSK and JT65 Forever!
>> ===
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want 
>>> to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and 
>>> summits. This is what the KX-line is all about. 
>>> 
>>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future accessories, 
>>> antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line? 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
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> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:42:00 -0500
> From: "ab4iqkf4cxo" 
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Amplifier
> Message-ID: <063d01d2a985$527094a0$f751bde0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I personally would like to have a solid state amp capable of 1500 watts.  I
> have an Alpha 9500 and Palstar HF-Auto that works just fine but I enjoy the
> way my KPA500/KAT500 along with the K3S works seamlessly with one another.
> Surely a solid state amp and tuner could replace my present setup with less
> real estate.   I took the time to train my KAT500 with my antennas and
> really works nice.  With my other setup the Palstar has to do its thing with
> RF applied and the alpha has to do its thing.  The Alpha takes three minutes
> to warm up and the KPA500 instantaneous and has 6 meters as well where the
> Alpha does not.  I'm not degrading the Alpha and Palstar at all 

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Jim Allen]

Get the Elecraft KUSB, and don't worry about it.

I bought one last year.  When I got around to trying it, it was apparently 
dead.  An e-mail to Elecraft had a new one en route that day.

You might save a few bucks fiddling around with other brands, but why?

73 Jim Allen W6OGC 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Years ago I used lead shot and epoxy to sill in the voids on a knob to add 
weight.

You could probably also use BBs instead of the Lead shot



  From: Doug Millar via Elecraft 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:55 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
   
Hi, 
    Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever 
since I had an HRO radio. 
    I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of 
the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to 
give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. 
Comments? 
   Doug jEY
 
drzarko...@yahoo.com
562 810 3989  cell/text


   
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Re: [Elecraft] Mounting a KX3+PX3 ?

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

Have a look at the Go Box made by KG5EIU, his Flickr stream shows how he did it.

https://flic.kr/p/FoYs5W

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 30 Mar 2017, at 19:52, Colin Haig (VE3MSC)  wrote:
> 
> Any recommendations on how to mount a KX3+PX3 ?  I want to try it out with
> my microwave setup, and would like to mount them on flat board or aluminum
> base, and was wondering what people have done for mounting brackets?
> 
> Thanks in advance and 73,
> 
> Colin VE3MSC
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Edward R Cole]

I use a converted (by me) 100w NDB as my amplifier after the K3 on 
630m.  The NDB is an aviation non-directional beacon that used to be 
common at airports and now are found surplus (if you look).  I got 
mine for $40, fully operational, with built-in ac PS.  It normally 
runs on a xtal LO which I gutted and drive with a simple coupling 
capacitor at 0.1mw (K3 run in TEST mode with output taken from 
transverter Tx out jack).  I retained the tunable coil bandpass 
filter which drives a 2N followed by two more transistor stages.


But by removing audio transformers and low pass filters many 100w 
stereo amps will work at this frequency.


Biggest challenge on this band is the antennas.  Half wave at 472-KHz 
is over a thousand feet.  The std inverted-L so popular for 160m is 
what I am using.  Mine is 43-foot high by 122-foot long and 
multi-wire to lower Q.  The base loading coil is 11 by 10 inch with 
1/4-inch winding separation using No. 12 house wire (without 
insulation).  Low noise receiving antennas are needed.  Band performs 
best in winter when there is little lightening static.


My 600m webpage is down but I show a lot of antenna info 
there.  Guess I need to restore it.  I achieve 4.15w ERP with 100w 
drive.  Very inefficient ground.


73, Ed - KL7UW

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:12:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: donov...@starpower.net
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band
Message-ID:
<776121572.2375091.1490904734537.javamail.r...@starpower.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Wayne,


The product we need is a companion 630M 100 watt amplifier for
Lowfer enabled K3 transceivers. That would have a big impact on
630M activity The K3 receiver is fantastic on 630M


73
Frank
W3LPL


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

[Chris Tate - N6WM]

Good solution.  Hope it holds up.  The lack of knob weight on this most amazing 
little rig is the only genuine physical design gripe I can come up with.  would 
be nice if it was a slightly heavier and rubberized grip.. pretty tough with 
such as small knob though and may be cost prohibitive.  Your solution make lots 
of sense to bridge the gap.  a push button encoder to add another route to 
menus would be another afterthought.

From: Elecraft [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Doug Millar via 
Elecraft [elecraft@mailman.qth.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

Hi,
Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever 
since I had an HRO radio.
I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of 
the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to 
give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. 
Comments?
   Doug jEY

drzarko...@yahoo.com
562 810 3989  cell/text


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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

In some cases a dB or so CAN make a difference.  Otherwise, why bother to
put a ½dB noise figure GaAsFET pre-amp at the antenna just to overcome 2dB
of feedline loss?

At the other extreme, if you are being received at 20dB over S-9 running a
kilowatt, you'll still be S-5 at 100 milliwatts.


73, Charlie k3ICH


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
D'Eau Claire
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:01 PM
To: 'Richard Thorne' ; 'Elecraft Reflector'

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call
sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.

Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial
operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on
the air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the
signal while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those
stations would not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.

In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1
through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal
with perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals,
choosing between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference
to an S-meter.  

Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB
improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag
chew - and I don't contest. 

And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my
Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and
restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come
back more quickly. Expectations are everything!

73, Ron AC7AC





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
K6MR
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:27 PM
To: Richard Thorne; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those
questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work
lots of people with 1000+ W.  I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work
better on 160.


I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here)
"If you feel loud you are loud".


Ken K6MR



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Richard
Thorne 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,
make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so
maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not
having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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[Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

[Doug Millar via Elecraft]

Hi, 
    Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever 
since I had an HRO radio. 
    I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of 
the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to 
give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. 
Comments? 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bill Frantz]

The 2M option for the KX3 supports transmit at about 3W output. 
See: 


Let me add, there are a lot of new hams with tech licenses. Many 
of them came to ham radio from an interest in community services 
ARES/RACES etc. They primarily use 2M and 70cm FM repeaters and 
simplex. It would be good for the hobby to have a radio which 
supported these FM uses and opened the possibility of other 
modes and bands. The Yaesu 8900 almost meets this requirement, 
except it only does FM. There is a very useful tech SSB subband 
on 10M which this radio just misses supporting.


I'm sure that some of them would want a high quality, US built, 
radio that met their needs plus a little. Call it, "The gateway radio".


73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/30/17 at 6:11 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Scott McDonald 
via Elecraft) wrote:


I realize the kx3 could be equipped to receive 2 meters now but 
that's a lot of kit compared to an 817 just for 2 meter receive

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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bill Frantz]

When my KX3 is fully set up for portable operation I have:

 Antenna
 RS232 <--> USB to P3
 SignaLInk to mic in
 phone out to splitter
 splitter to SignaLink
 splitter to headphones
 SignaLink to computer
 Power to KX3
 Power to P3
 IQ to P3
 RS232 <--> P3

I have to swap plugs for the mic to use voice modes. (Plus muck 
with bias, vox, levels etc.) When I use CW I have to attack the 
paddle, which will break it transported attached to the KX3.


(Did I forget anything?)

73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/30/17 at 11:57 AM, phys...@mac.com (Phil Hystad) wrote:


Wow,  Seven cables!


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[Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Emory Schley]

Let's see now, the antenna for 630 meters would be almost four times the length 
of one for 160? Doesn't sound like a "hiking" antenna to me, unless you're 
taking along a pack mule, maybe... ;-)
 
Emory Schley
N4LP
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call
sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.

Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial
operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on
the air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the
signal while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those
stations would not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.

In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1
through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal
with perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals,
choosing between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference
to an S-meter.  

Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB
improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag
chew - and I don't contest. 

And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my
Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and
restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come
back more quickly. Expectations are everything!

73, Ron AC7AC





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
K6MR
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:27 PM
To: Richard Thorne; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those
questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work
lots of people with 1000+ W.  I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work
better on 160.


I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here)
"If you feel loud you are loud".


Ken K6MR



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Richard
Thorne 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,
make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so
maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not
having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Ken K6MR]

I use W6PQLs combiner/splitter pair for the RF paths.  I use an Arduino to 
handle switching the band data from the two K3s, along with the keyline.

I switch the pair between the radios using the Tx Focus line from a u2R as 
control, which drives 4 TopTen A/B switches to switch the combo between the 
radios.

I also modified the KPAs to increase their gain a bit. NX1P has a good writeup 
about removing the pad in the amp and modifying the power sense circuit.  The 
KPAs will work without modification, but I ran out of drive on the higher 
bands. Now getting 1000+ out on all bands is easy.

So far no problems. I use my logging program and the MicroHam router program to 
insert some delay between activation and RF application. So far it's been 
pretty bullet proof.


Ken K6MR


From: Bud Semon 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:32:07 PM
To: Ken K6MR
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

Hi Ken,

How do you combine the 2 amps?  I think that was KK9A's question also, so if 
you answered on the reflector, it would probably be appreciated.

Thanks and 73,

Bud  N7CW

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Ken K6MR 
> wrote:
I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those 
questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work 
lots of people with 1000+ W.  I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work better 
on 160.


I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here) "If 
you feel loud you are loud".


Ken K6MR



From: Elecraft 
> on 
behalf of Richard Thorne >
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
not having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Gerard Elijzen]

Hi all,

Would like to see the addition for (40m and 30m) of APRS and GPS for mobile use 
for the KX3 when 2m digipeaters are not reachable.

Gerard VK2JNG
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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

The DB9-USB-D5-F cost about $15, so for about the price of a USB to RS-232 
Cable you can put the USB interface right n the K2.
If you decide in the future you want to go a different route you simply remove 
it and get the KIO2 from Elecraft.







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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Rick WA6NHC]

In the tub or out?

Rick


On 3/30/2017 1:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn


On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)

Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Ken K6MR]

I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those 
questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work 
lots of people with 1000+ W.  I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work better 
on 160.


I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here) "If 
you feel loud you are loud".


Ken K6MR



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Richard Thorne 

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
not having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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[Elecraft] KX line future accesories

[David Satterwhite via Elecraft]

I would have to agree with an internal 2m/440 module for the KX3. In my mind 
this is the only thing that keeps my KX3 from being my one and only radio for 
portable use. Unfortunately, I keep going back to my Ft817, instead of my KX3, 
because it does it all.
Dave, KM6P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 + P3 **Update**

[Phil Hystad]

Earlier post Updated — the P3 has been sold...

For Sale:  K3/100 Configuration as shown below

Updated Price:  $1950 inclusive of shipping/insurance to CONUS destination.

The complement included in the K3, serial number #6183:

  — K3/100 with standard 2.7 kHz Filter
  — KAT3:K3 ATU Option
  — KXV3A:  RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface Option
  — KFL3A-250-R:   250 Hz, 8-Pole Filter
  — KFL3A-400-R:   400 Hz, 8-Pole Filter
  — KFL3A-1.0K-R:  1 kHz, 8-Pole Filter
  — MH2:  Hand Held microphone for the K3
  — KUSB: Universal Serial Bus Adapter

This K3 (modular kit) is fully assembled and calibrated per Elecraft 
calibration procedures.  It is fully
functional with no dents, no scratches, and no dust or dirt on the cabinet.  
Used only in a non-smoking
environent.

Also, Elecraft documentation for the K3 plus the Fred Cady “Elecraft K3” book.

Also, I (posting this ad for Fred) can be contacted at this address or with 
Phil’s (K7PEH) address
offline for any additional questions and photos of the equipment.

73, Fred, KE7FB
fbirc...@gmail.com

Posted by Phil, K7PEH
phys...@mac.com


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[Elecraft] OT; New technology/Graphene

[Richard Fjeld]

(If this has been mentioned before, I apologize.)

In looking for information on new battery technology, I found some 
interesting talks on YouTube about Graphene tied to battery development.

Graphene is revolutionary.  Relative to an Electron, the thickness of 
Graphene is said to be two dimensional.

I don't know which is the most informative link.  This is one of 
several. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh3dA8xnZ4Y

I foresee the possibility of this bringing changes to the hobby, not 
only in batteries.  (Consider invisible antennas as you watch the video.)

Dick, n0ce

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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

For my use it fits my needs better as I do not plan to use Elecrafts 
Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely.
So it becomes a simpler solution.



  From: Don Wilhelm 
 To: Harry Yingst ; Elecraft Email List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
   
Harry,

OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
You will have some problems to solve if using that device.

First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V) 
instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need 
some more logic circuits to make it work.

2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft 
accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters.  If you ever 
want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".

3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and 
polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not 
just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground.  You would have to make extensive 
modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not 
have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft 
accessory boxes.

Simple "solutions" are often complex.  It is easier to use an external 
USB to serial adapter IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/30/2017 3:43 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
>
> Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
>
> USB straight to the K2
>
>
> 
>
>



   
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Doug Smith]

Oh boy, here we go again with a KW amp!

;-)

Doug, W7KF


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 14:47, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
> 
> 
>> On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Fred Jensen]

How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn


On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)

Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories

[Brian D. Comer]

As some additional insight into the care needed when working with some of
the most popular USB interfaces.

I have recently been  working on understanding the lack of sensitivity in a
900 MHz ISM device. This device is controlled by an FTDI245RQ USB interface.
The clock for this device can be an internal 12 MHz oscillator or a 24 MHz
external oscillator. The internal oscillator has very poor phase noise and
its 76th harmonic, present on the USB data lines, is strong enough to
de-sense a 900 MHz RX over a 7 MHz wide band. The DE0-Nano FPGA development
board which has a similar USB controller but with an external 24 MHz clock
also radiates significant energy on the 38th harmonic of its clock. 




Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:12:21 -0700
From: Walter Underwood 
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
Message-ID: <3fc92c0e-0d09-4b18-803d-dd475b108...@wunderwood.org>
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Thanks for confirming my guess.

I remain amazed that serial connections are used so much in amateur radio.
Outside of amateur radio, I?ve used RS-232 connections once since the early
1990?s. In 2002, I connected a console to an HP-UX to rebuild the kernel and
get it on our net. I threw away all my RS-232 connector building stuff a
decade ago. Then I got into amateur radio.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Matt Zilmer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> In the K3S, we could move the KIO3B digital electronics to the upper
section of the main board, far away from the RF board.  The main board is
also a multi-layer type, so we could sandwich most of the noisy digital
signals between signal ground planes, shielding them pretty effectively.
This solved the problem of digital noise getting into the K3S rx.  In the KX
radios, digital noise would be in close proximity RF boards, so that
opportunity is not available to us.
> 
> 73,
> 
> matt W6NIA
> 
> 
> On 3/30/2017 7:58 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> That was my single complaint with the KX3, even before I bought mine. My
current setup is a rats nest of wires.
>> 
>> On this list, five years ago, Elecraft said that the USB chips were too
noisy to be inside the radio. I presume they found a way to deal with that
for the K3S, but they have more room to work with there.
>> 
>> wunder
>> Walter Underwood
>> wun...@wunderwood.org
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Peter Pauly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning, 
>>> especially the
>>> KX2 since it's new.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Karl DK5LP  wrote:
>>> 
 My greatest wish:
 A schematic for the KXPA100/KXKAT100.
 
 
 vy 73 de
 Karl-Heinz, DK5LP /  AK5LP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Don Wilhelm]

Harry,

OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
You will have some problems to solve if using that device.

First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V) 
instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need 
some more logic circuits to make it work.


2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft 
accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters.  If you ever 
want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".


3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and 
polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not 
just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground.  You would have to make extensive 
modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not 
have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft 
accessory boxes.


Simple "solutions" are often complex.  It is easier to use an external 
USB to serial adapter IMHO.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/30/2017 3:43 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:


Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F

USB straight to the K2







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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[donovanf]

Hi Wayne, 


The product we need is a companion 630M 100 watt amplifier for 
Lowfer enabled K3 transceivers. That would have a big impact on 
630M activity The K3 receiver is fantastic on 630M 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: "Wayne Burdick"  
To: "Edward R Cole"  
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector"  
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:47:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band 

Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :) 

Wayne 
N6KR 


On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote: 

> I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm 
> Look for 600m - FCC announcement 
> 
> Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz (630m) 
> though not quite final for ham use. 
> 5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable antenna 
> fed with 100w. Hams will have to register with a power utility agency to 
> ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by utilities. Ham radio will be 
> a secondary user. 
> 
> I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon. 
> 
> I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as 
> experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m. 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW 
> http://www.kl7uw.com 
> Dubus-NA Business mail: 
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[Elecraft] Improved KX2 knob

[Emory Schley]

I stretched out an O-ring a bit and managed to slip it over the tuning knob on 
my KX2. It now sits about 1/16th of an inch down from the top face of the knob, 
and it has greatly enhanced my ability to manually scan through the 
frequencies. I just put the tip of my right index finger at the side of the 
knob so that I'm touching both the O-ring and the upper edge of the knob, and 
that allows me to scoot merrily through the frequencies. The O-ring is black so 
it blends well with the rig and is barely noticable.
 
Emory Schley
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 Accessories? [Thanks!]

[Wayne Burdick]

Thanks for all the great input, everyone. Too many emails to respond to 
individually.

In the short term, we'll be making some improvements to both KX2 and KX3 
firmware. Near the top of the list (other than bug fixes) will be a new menu 
entry that lets you choose one of two sets of ATU tuning data. As several 
people pointed out, it would be convenient to preserve your home QTH antenna 
tuning data when going out in the field.

Stay tuned for future updates.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[LA8AW]

The future 'accessories' I would like to see, is an application for
configuration of all the menu settings for K3/K3s/KX3/KX2/Kxxx.

Think of how easy it wold be e.g. to change all the AGC configuration - if
it could be done with the click of the mouse.

73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil




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>
> Hi all,
>
> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want
> to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and
> summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.
>
> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :) What future accessories,
> antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Serial is actually used quite a bit in other fields
It just works and is pretty universal

  From: Walter Underwood 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
   
Thanks for confirming my guess.

I remain amazed that serial connections are used so much in amateur radio. 
Outside of amateur radio, I’ve used RS-232 connections once since the early 
1990’s. In 2002, I connected a console to an HP-UX to rebuild the kernel and 
get it on our net. I threw away all my RS-232 connector building stuff a decade 
ago. Then I got into amateur radio.

wunder
K6WRU
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CM87wj
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Wayne Burdick]

Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)

Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:

> I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
> Look for 600m - FCC announcement
> 
> Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz (630m) 
> though not quite final for ham use.
> 5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable antenna 
> fed with 100w.  Hams will have to register with a power utility agency to 
> ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by utilities.  Ham radio will be 
> a secondary user.
> 
> I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon.
> 
> I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as 
> experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>  dubus...@gmail.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
USB straight to the K2

  

   
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Mel Farrer via Elecraft]

Frankly going to the higher power is really a engineering what if and looking 
at the new higher power devices rather than doubling up the 500.  IMHO
Mel, K6KBE


  From: "j...@kk9a.com" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:13 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
   
There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
Much depends on your interests and goals.

I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
a good option?

John KK9A


from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
not having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

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[Elecraft] FCC R approves 630m ham band

[Edward R Cole]

I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
Look for 600m - FCC announcement

Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz 
(630m) though not quite final for ham use.
5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable 
antenna fed with 100w.  Hams will have to register with a power 
utility agency to ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by 
utilities.  Ham radio will be a secondary user.


I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon.

I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as 
experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m.


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
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[Elecraft] http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm

[Edward R Cole]

Phil,

USB ought to provide more than just audio interface.  The USB on the 
K3s provides all the RS232 functions.  I mainly use it for digital sw 
run on the computer, but I also have an utility that controls the K3 
VFO and keys PTT.  I can use it for panadapter use, as well.  I use 
the FDTI USB/RS232 cable from Elecraft.


Comment on the original topic,  It seems a cable interface/switch box 
is a perfect after-market item for someone to make for the 
KX2/KX3.  A dual-band VHF/UHF transverter with external battery box 
to clamp-on behind either radio is a nice concept, but the radios are 
not capable of duplex operation, so this still falls short of what 
the satellite community desires.  The satellite population is just 
too small for a decent market for a new all-mode duplex dual-band 
radio.  Also SDR's are making big inroads into this market so look 
for this to come out of that industry.  In fact one can do that with 
a KX3-2M adding a UHF SDR.


Long-range development of ham-sats will be moving to mw and utilize 
digital modes, only (meaning DV as included).  FEC digital is the 
direction of communications tech.  Its already in your smart phone.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:53:57 -0700
From: Phil Hystad 
To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data 
ops (RTTY, PSK, etc.)?



73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Paul Bryan]

As for the calls for Bluetooth, it's not clear who wants it for
wireless mic/headset, and who wants it for digital comms.

For digital comms, I think the problem will be audio codecs adding
artifacts. The A2DP[1] mandatory codecs are all lossy, and are targeted
for human audio perception, not digital communications. AFAIK, PCM
(uncompressed audio) isn't supported in A2DP because it uses too much
bandwidth.

Paul, VA7CDB

[1] https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/DownloadDoc.ashx?doc_id=2
60859=290074

-Original Message-

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:35:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
To: Elecraft Reflector , k...@yahoogroups.com

From: Wayne Burdick 
Hi all,

The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us
want to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails,
beaches, and summits. This is what the KX-line is all about. 

Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future
accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line? 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Richard Thorne]

Hi John,

I don't combine my KPA-500's.  I use them in an SO2R setup.

Rich - N5ZC

On 3/30/2017 1:53 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
Much depends on your interests and goals.

I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
a good option?

John KK9A


from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
not having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

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[Elecraft] Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[sancho]

Sometimes I don't read the fine print... Sorry Bill, was to go to the list.
Jack KD4IZ
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: sancho 
> Date: March 30, 2017 at 14:12:26 EDT
> To: Bill Frantz 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I have had a similar list of features to posted by Bill Frantz below. I would 
> add that the base that contains them should be designed to: 
> 1) have wider adjustable viewing angle than the stock prop legs 
> 2) have the ability to interface a matching base for the PX3 with one cable
> 3) provide single cable plus coax attachment for the KXPA100.
> 4) add BT for headset (maybe switchable or dual for data?) similar to WMR 
> Rigblaster Blue
> 
> This would get the rats nest off the desk and into the "Go Kit" and knock 
> down sources of noise and RFI.
> 
> Jack Spitznagel KD4IZ
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 23:50, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> 
>>  Make switching between Data/Voice/CW easy - handle VOX, Mic bias & levels.
>> 
>>  Connect to computer/phones/mic to the radio without switching plugs.
>> 
>>  Contain "sound card"? + hub + RS232 to USB --> one cable computer 
>> connection ala K3S
>> 
>>  Run headphones/speaker + digital at the same time
>> 
>>  Amp for stereo speakers
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Phil Hystad]

I have the digital recorder option on my K3.  But, when I use my KX2 (or, the 
KX3 I used to own)
they are usually in the field sometimes using a picnic bench if nearby or 
otherwise the tailgate of
my pickup truck with the portable antenna somewhere not far away.  Can’t 
imagine in that
scenario ever doing anything with a sound card especially when all I do is CW.  
Certainly I never
have a computer with me.  Well, I will often have my iPad but if that is with 
me I am reading a
novel inbetween QSOs.

After all, I sort of that that was the design goal of something like the KX2 
and even the KX3,
minimal, small form-factor, portable operations or even hiking with it (which 
is something I
do not usually do).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Steve Sergeant  wrote:
> 
> I hope we can be more creative than that!
> 
> How about recording, playback, and automation features, some of which
> have not yet been imagined. How abut signal processing operations that
> are beyond the DSP capability in the radio? How about some
> not-so-distant future when spoken language translation might be possible?
> 
> A sound-card type interface within the unit opens up whole new doors of
> possibilities.
> 
> On 3/30/17 9:53 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data ops 
>> (RTTY, PSK, etc.)?
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Me too.
>>> 
>>> On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
 I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
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[Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 Accessories?

[Dauer, Edward]

Me too.

Bluetooth or the equivalent for whatever can work that way, and something like 
the yesteryear computer “docking stations” for all the rest, maybe as the front 
end of a DC power supply.

Ted, KN1CBR
   

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:11:09 -0700
From: Walter Underwood 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
Message-ID: <1b550922-0785-49a4-b671-41254978a...@wunderwood.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don?t use the 
KEY jack and don?t have the 2m transverter.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Phil Hystad]

I have never used a mic with my KX2 although the MH2 came free with it.  I used 
the mic on my KX3 (sold a month ago) once merely to see if it worked.  
Otherwise, CW is my only mode for the portable ops and I have never used them 
with an amplifier.  Barefoot is fine with me so far.

73, phil, K7PEH

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Walt, I have 8 into the KX3.  I really meant the KX2 to which I have one 
> cable plugged into it: the antenna.  If I used the KX3 in place of the KX2 I 
> would have only two cables, the mic and the antenna.  However, I have 
> temporarily used the KX3 in place of my K3S, an I use the KXPA100 etc., in 
> the shack.  The back of my K3S has 11 external connections, but I don't grab 
> and go with it.  :-)
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter 
> Underwood
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:11 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> 
> I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don’t use the 
> KEY jack and don’t have the 2m transverter.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil, Me too.  I already do this.  My grab and go KX2 does it all for me.  
>> The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my 
>> shack.  
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Phil Hystad
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
>> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX 
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> 
>> I am trying to understand this …
>> 
>> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3.  What other connections 
>> are there?
>> 
>> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection.  Only connector 
>> is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll second this one too!
>>> 
>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano  wrote:
>>> 
 I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to 
 the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin 
 the antenna so make it two connections.
 
 -Anthony WR3T
 
 --
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 a...@fastmail.fm
 
 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
> 
> Thank you!
> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly  wrote:
> 
>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
 especially the
>> KX2 since it's new.
>> 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Phil Hystad]

Wow,  Seven cables!

I am wondering if I even have seven cables on my K3+P3+KPA500+KAT500.

Obviously not a rig you want to take into the field for portable ops which is 
the primary reason for my KX2 (and my former KX3).

73, phil, K7PEH



> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don’t use the 
> KEY jack and don’t have the 2m transverter.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil, Me too.  I already do this.  My grab and go KX2 does it all for me.  
>> The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my 
>> shack.  
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
>> Hystad
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
>> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX 
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> 
>> I am trying to understand this …
>> 
>> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3.  What other connections 
>> are there?
>> 
>> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection.  Only connector 
>> is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll second this one too!
>>> 
>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano  wrote:
>>> 
 I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to 
 the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin 
 the antenna so make it two connections.
 
 -Anthony WR3T
 
 --
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 a...@fastmail.fm
 
 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
> 
> Thank you!
> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly  wrote:
> 
>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
 especially the
>> KX2 since it's new.
>> 
 
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[Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[j...@kk9a.com]

There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
Much depends on your interests and goals.

I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
a good option?

John KK9A


from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
not having a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

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[Elecraft] Mounting a KX3+PX3 ?

[Colin Haig (VE3MSC)]

Any recommendations on how to mount a KX3+PX3 ?  I want to try it out with
my microwave setup, and would like to mount them on flat board or aluminum
base, and was wondering what people have done for mounting brackets?

Thanks in advance and 73,

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[Elecraft] Amplifier

[ab4iqkf4cxo]

I personally would like to have a solid state amp capable of 1500 watts.  I
have an Alpha 9500 and Palstar HF-Auto that works just fine but I enjoy the
way my KPA500/KAT500 along with the K3S works seamlessly with one another.
Surely a solid state amp and tuner could replace my present setup with less
real estate.   I took the time to train my KAT500 with my antennas and
really works nice.  With my other setup the Palstar has to do its thing with
RF applied and the alpha has to do its thing.  The Alpha takes three minutes
to warm up and the KPA500 instantaneous and has 6 meters as well where the
Alpha does not.  I'm not degrading the Alpha and Palstar at all because they
do work and quite well.

 

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[Elecraft] Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Carl Jón Denbow]

Forgot to send this to whole list.

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> Date: March 29, 2017 at 9:46:06 PM EDT
> To: Wayne Burdick 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> 
> That's easy, Wayne.  I'd love to see an internal soundcard module for digital 
> mode operation, like one can do with the K3s. 73 de Carl N8VZ
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>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want 
>> to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and 
>> summits. This is what the KX-line is all about. 
>> 
>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future accessories, 
>> antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line? 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Most of us are going to see the radio in terms of what we actually do 
with the radio.


For example, I know why I didn't buy a set of paddles.  I'd never use them.

I'm not sure why I bought the microphone, I've used it very little.

Lots of folks use those, so I'm glad they are options.

I like the Bluetooth idea too, for much the same reasons.  If there are 
cool ways to use the BT that are outside the scope of the scope, then 
I'm in favor of that.


On the knob question, in many of the digital modes, you park the VFO in 
one spot and tune with your mouse and the waterfall.  Can't get excited 
about a "better" knob, but I'm not opposed to it.


73 - Lynn

On 3/30/2017 11:20 AM, Steve Sergeant wrote:

I hope we can be more creative than that!





A sound-card type interface within the unit opens up whole new doors of
possibilities.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[Paul Van Dyke]

They're trying to get an idea what to add to the prototype that's on
Wayne's bench

Smiling Paul KB9AVO


On Mar 30, 2017 2:18 PM, "John Dolan"  wrote:

> I would definitely like to replace my Fl-7000 amp.   50 pounds is too much
> to have to move around  (I am an old man now!)
>
> 73, John WB4YAL
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Steve Sergeant]

I hope we can be more creative than that!

How about recording, playback, and automation features, some of which
have not yet been imagined. How abut signal processing operations that
are beyond the DSP capability in the radio? How about some
not-so-distant future when spoken language translation might be possible?

A sound-card type interface within the unit opens up whole new doors of
possibilities.

On 3/30/17 9:53 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data ops 
> (RTTY, PSK, etc.)?
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>> On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
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Re: [Elecraft] RE/KX3 Future Accessories KX2

[Paul Bryan]

I have one of these, which is experimental. It's definitely an
improvement over the stock KX2 VFO knob:
https://gemsproducts.com/product/kx2-vfo-a-knob-beta/

Paul, VA7CDB

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:06:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE/KX3 Future Accessories KX2
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
From: Tom Parish 
I would ditto George Serikas's comments about the tuning knob. Finger
dimple or whatever you feel would help.

Love my KX2 for sure.

Tom
KB5RF

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM, George Sereikas 
wrote:

> Wayne,
> 
> I have one small request for the KX2. I’d like to see a replacement
> VFO
> tuning knob that is easier to tune.  I find that the current knob
> slips/slides off my finger.  A finger “dimple” or maybe something as
> simple
> as a rubberized knob or cover would do the trick.  Love the KX2 and
> the
> KX3,  but that one small improvement would be great.
> 
> Keep up the great work!
> 
> George
> K2WO
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bill Johnson]

Walt, I have 8 into the KX3.  I really meant the KX2 to which I have one cable 
plugged into it: the antenna.  If I used the KX3 in place of the KX2 I would 
have only two cables, the mic and the antenna.  However, I have temporarily 
used the KX3 in place of my K3S, an I use the KXPA100 etc., in the shack.  The 
back of my K3S has 11 external connections, but I don't grab and go with it.  
:-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter 
Underwood
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don’t use the KEY 
jack and don’t have the 2m transverter.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Phil, Me too.  I already do this.  My grab and go KX2 does it all for me.  
> The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my 
> shack.  
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Phil Hystad
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> 
> I am trying to understand this …
> 
> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3.  What other connections 
> are there?
> 
> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection.  Only connector 
> is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX  wrote:
>> 
>> I'll second this one too!
>> 
>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to 
>>> the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin 
>>> the antenna so make it two connections.
>>> 
>>> -Anthony WR3T
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Anthony DeStefano
>>> a...@fastmail.fm
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
 I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
 
 Thank you!
 73, de Bill, N3JIX
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly  wrote:
 
> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>>> especially the
> KX2 since it's new.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[John Dolan]

I would definitely like to replace my Fl-7000 amp.   50 pounds is too much
to have to move around  (I am an old man now!)

73, John WB4YAL

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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Walter Underwood]

I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don’t use the KEY 
jack and don’t have the 2m transverter.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Phil, Me too.  I already do this.  My grab and go KX2 does it all for me.  
> The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my 
> shack.  
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
> Hystad
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> 
> I am trying to understand this …
> 
> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3.  What other connections 
> are there?
> 
> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection.  Only connector 
> is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX  wrote:
>> 
>> I'll second this one too!
>> 
>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to 
>>> the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin 
>>> the antenna so make it two connections.
>>> 
>>> -Anthony WR3T
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Anthony DeStefano
>>> a...@fastmail.fm
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
 I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
 
 Thank you!
 73, de Bill, N3JIX
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly  wrote:
 
> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>>> especially the
> KX2 since it's new.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[Mel Farrer via Elecraft]

Besides, I would really like to replace my DX-2SP.  I can't lift it!!
Mel, K6KBE


  From: charlie carroll 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:33 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities
   
Eric/Wayne:

Quite a few folks have contributed many ideas about the characteristics 
of a new 1500 watt solid state amp.  With all this info, I am now 
curious as to what might make the cut and when.  I won't even go near 
the $$ question. :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Yes.

Just like the only real purpose of a set of paddles is to send CW.

73 -- Lynn

On 3/30/2017 9:53 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data ops (RTTY, 
PSK, etc.)?


On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
 wrote:

Me too.

On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:

I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.

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Re: [Elecraft] RE/KX3 Future Accessories KX2

[Tom Parish]

I would ditto George Serikas's comments about the tuning knob. Finger
dimple or whatever you feel would help.

Love my KX2 for sure.

Tom
KB5RF

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM, George Sereikas  wrote:

>
> Wayne,
>
> I have one small request for the KX2. I’d like to see a replacement VFO
> tuning knob that is easier to tune.  I find that the current knob
> slips/slides off my finger.  A finger “dimple” or maybe something as simple
> as a rubberized knob or cover would do the trick.  Love the KX2 and the
> KX3,  but that one small improvement would be great.
>
> Keep up the great work!
>
> George
> K2WO
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Bill Johnson]

While thinking a little longer, how about a KPA500X with a combiner added into 
it so one could add on over time to the 1KW power either with the original 
purchase of a plain 500 watt amp or the one ready for expansion?

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:01 PM
To: Richard Thorne ; Elecraft Reflector 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

Rich,  I am for Elecraft making an effective combiner to use 2 KPA500's.I 
would then have flexibility to use either for one 1kw or 2 500watt radios.  A 
1500 watt radio will be very heavy and I just sold my ~60# THP 2.5kfx as I was 
barely able to move it on my own and I am not getting any younger :-)  As you 
point out the slight gain to 1.5 KW isn't enough to warrant one that size to 
me.  When I had the THP I rarely pushed it past 900-100 watts anyway and had 
little trouble working EU on 80.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Thorne
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500 watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,  make 
a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so 
maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not having 
a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Bill Johnson]

Rich,  I am for Elecraft making an effective combiner to use 2 KPA500's.I 
would then have flexibility to use either for one 1kw or 2 500watt radios.  A 
1500 watt radio will be very heavy and I just sold my ~60# THP 2.5kfx as I was 
barely able to move it on my own and I am not getting any younger :-)  As you 
point out the slight gain to 1.5 KW isn't enough to warrant one that size to 
me.  When I had the THP I rarely pushed it past 900-100 watts anyway and had 
little trouble working EU on 80.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard 
Thorne
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500 watts.

500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,  make 
a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?

I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so 
maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not having 
a qso.

What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bill Johnson]

Phil, Me too.  I already do this.  My grab and go KX2 does it all for me.  The 
KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my shack.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Hystad
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

I am trying to understand this …

I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3.  What other connections are 
there?

My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection.  Only connector is 
antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX  wrote:
> 
> I'll second this one too!
> 
> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano  wrote:
> 
>> I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to 
>> the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin 
>> the antenna so make it two connections.
>> 
>> -Anthony WR3T
>> 
>> --
>> Anthony DeStefano
>> a...@fastmail.fm
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly  wrote:
>>> 
 USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>> especially the
 KX2 since it's new.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Bill Johnson]

I second the BT idea but make it duplex for two way communications. It would be 
nice to control/ monitor via smart phone/tablet or laptop.  No cables just fun. 
 That would be a first in the market as far as I know.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Linas(LY2H)
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:37 AM
To: Steve Sergeant ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

1. I support very mich the idea or the need , really, of an in-built bluetooth 
rig control and audio I/o connection interface  to a portable devices. For if 
you have an iPad or an iPhone you can not connect them to nothing and nothing 
can be connected to them by wires :). Yes, I have a Pigtail thing but it's too 
complicated to use in the field and it makes one more box hanging around and 
the software available is rudimentary one. With mobile devices taking over 
laptop and desktop computers almost massively in the daily life use, not having 
a chance to use it for the KX line ham radio applications is just a great 
mistake!

2. I use my KX2 a lot in the mobile operating with the magmount antenna.
The rig just sits on the front seat near me and it is no problem to operate the 
CW paddle. Just one thing - it would be nice a second PF button because now I 
have to choose what I want to use it for- the VOX on/off or the Xit on/off for 
example. While on road and driving it is tiresome and dangerous to mingle with 
the menu settings. Actually the VOX setting should stay always on if you switch 
it on. at the moment you have to switch it on on every  power-up.

73! Linas LY2H
On 2017 kov. 30, kt at 08:37 Steve Sergeant  wrote:

> On 3/29/17 18:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > What future accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for 
> > the
> KX-line?
>
> Here's a few non-trivial brainstorms:
>
> 1) A bluetooth interface that allows rig control and audio I/O on a 
> nearby (smart-) phone. While the front-panel UIs of the KX2  makes 
> really clever use of limited knob and switch space, being able to 
> build richer interfaces into the phone would be awesome. The 
> possibilities become really crazy then: Logging, some kind of mini 
> waterfall display, sound recording and playback, comparatively 
> unlimited freq. memories with extended meta-data, calendar 
> interaction, storing QSO logs for later acknowledgment in email, 
> slow-scan TV support, etc. and too many other et ceteras to count.
>
> 2) An automotive (12V) charger for the on-board KX2 battery.
>
> 3) A really tiny, ultralight 9:1 UNUN--perhaps AA battery size. This 
> would be for matching a long wire antenna that doesn't start right at 
> the radio (instead of using the BNC-binding-posts adapter) in 
> situations when you want the radiating wire some distance away, like 
> outside your car, tent, or a metal-roofed cabin. Imagine trying to 
> make contacts from inside this kind of building in the dead of winter 
> after carrying your gear in on skis or snowshoes: [ 
> http://clairtappaanlodge.com/bradley-hut ]
>
> 4) An "Otter Box" style or neoprene case for both the KX2 & KX3 that 
> would protect them from slightly rougher handling.
>
> And I second the idea for a way to back up all of your memories, 
> settings and tunings.
>
> --Steve, KC6ZKT
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Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

[Fred Jensen]

Paul:  There seem to be two distinct USB-serial chipsets, FTDI and 
Prolific.  Others [like Keyspan] appear to use the Prolific [most of the 
time].  Three older Prolific models are not supported in Windows 10 and 
will give "Error 10" when plugged in.  Prolific has also had problems 
with counterfeit chipsets from "you know where."  Many of these do not 
implement the entire standard and people have had problems with them and 
drivers, beyond the Win 10 issue.


You can purchase a guaranteed FTDI adapter cable from Elecraft, I just 
did and it works fine.  You can also find them on Amazon, however I 
decided against those since their provenance is not really clear.


BEWARE:  The DE-9 on the back of the K2 is *NOT* a regular RS-232 serial 
port.  Three of the pins [RXD, TXD, GND] conform to RS-232 standards, 
the remainder are internal K2 signals for the 100W ATU.  Elecraft sells 
an adapter cable that passes just the three signals, or you can easily 
make your own.  Plugging the USB-Serial adapter directly into the K2 
will likely damage the radio.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn



On 3/30/2017 6:43 AM, Paul Huff wrote:

I am adding a KIO2 to my Elecraft K2 and will of course build the required 
interface cable per the Elecraft instructions.  But my computer will require 
adapting the serial connection to a USB.  I have heard that some adapters work 
well and others do not.  I would be interested in hearing specific brand 
suggestions for a good adapter.

Thanks and 73,

Paul - N8XMS
NAQCC President
NAQCC #0675
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Peter LaBissoniere]

Also if possible, additional audio message buffers on the KX2/ KX3 DVR.

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
> 
> Beer holder would be nice Wayne.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want 
>> to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and 
>> summits. This is what the KX-line is all about. 
>> 
>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :) What future accessories, 
>> antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line? 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KX2 Suggestions

[Michael Goins]

Wayne,

How about a possible break-out type box to incorporate switches so we can
plug the kX3 in more neatly, since many of us use it as the main rig? That
way we could switch modes, etc. by flipping switches instead of
unpluggin/plugging cables. If used in the field too, just unplug and go.

Mike, k5wmg
Bella-Green Bed & Breakfast and Tiny Houses
www.bella-green.com







On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Doug Millar via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Hi Wayne, et al.- Lots of good ideas. The only one I keep thinking of is a
> little more hefty tuning knob, especially for the KX2. I don't mean a lead
> knob, just one with a little more mass and better feel. Maybe someone makes
> one already? Except for that, I can't think of much. I have both radios and
> enjoy them a great deal and have no frustrations with the radios.   Doug
> K6jEY Dr.Doug Millar EdD.
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[Elecraft] KX3/KX2 Suggestions

[Doug Millar via Elecraft]

Hi Wayne, et al.- Lots of good ideas. The only one I keep thinking of is a 
little more hefty tuning knob, especially for the KX2. I don't mean a lead 
knob, just one with a little more mass and better feel. Maybe someone makes one 
already? Except for that, I can't think of much. I have both radios and enjoy 
them a great deal and have no frustrations with the radios.   Doug K6jEY 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Walter Underwood]

Thanks for confirming my guess.

I remain amazed that serial connections are used so much in amateur radio. 
Outside of amateur radio, I’ve used RS-232 connections once since the early 
1990’s. In 2002, I connected a console to an HP-UX to rebuild the kernel and 
get it on our net. I threw away all my RS-232 connector building stuff a decade 
ago. Then I got into amateur radio.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Matt Zilmer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> In the K3S, we could move the KIO3B digital electronics to the upper section 
> of the main board, far away from the RF board.  The main board is also a 
> multi-layer type, so we could sandwich most of the noisy digital signals 
> between signal ground planes, shielding them pretty effectively.  This solved 
> the problem of digital noise getting into the K3S rx.  In the KX radios, 
> digital noise would be in close proximity RF boards, so that opportunity is 
> not available to us.
> 
> 73,
> 
> matt W6NIA
> 
> 
> On 3/30/2017 7:58 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> That was my single complaint with the KX3, even before I bought mine. My 
>> current setup is a rats nest of wires.
>> 
>> On this list, five years ago, Elecraft said that the USB chips were too 
>> noisy to be inside the radio. I presume they found a way to deal with that 
>> for the K3S, but they have more room to work with there.
>> 
>> wunder
>> Walter Underwood
>> wun...@wunderwood.org
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Peter Pauly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning, especially the
>>> KX2 since it's new.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Karl DK5LP  wrote:
>>> 
 My greatest wish:
 A schematic for the KXPA100/KXKAT100.
 
 
 vy 73 de
 Karl-Heinz, DK5LP /  AK5LP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Sound Card and Windows 10

[Barry]

Marvin,
I run my K3s with Windows 10 pro with no issues. However, I can 
think of one area that has a problem from time to time. the FTDI driver. 
Go to the Elecraft site and download the driver and install it on the 
computer that is having the problem. That should fix the problem.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Sound Card and Windows 10

Has Anyone else had problems with Windows 10 recognizing the sound card 
in a
K3S. All of the drivers are up to date. It is not the sound card 
because
another laptop recognizes the card but a relatively new Dell laptop 
with

windows 10 does not. Any suggestions?



Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Phil Hystad]

Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data ops (RTTY, 
PSK, etc.)?

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
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> Me too.
> 
> On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Me too.

On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:

I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[John Dolan]

I am watching these posts with great interest and anticipation!
Can't wait to see what develops with the actual amp.

73, John WB4YAL

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[Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?

[Richard Thorne]

I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.  Seamless.

I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500 
watts.


500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain

Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in 
gain,  make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but 
how often?


I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, 
so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or 
not having a qso.


What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[Ron Wilcox]

And I am sure that there are many like myself who while I have not posted,
 have been reading all of the comments and are very interested

Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:22 AM, charlie carroll  wrote:

> Eric/Wayne:
>
> Quite a few folks have contributed many ideas about the characteristics of
> a new 1500 watt solid state amp.  With all this info, I am now curious as
> to what might make the cut and when.  I won't even go near the $$ question.
> :-)
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[Elecraft] New Amplifier Capabilities

[charlie carroll]

Eric/Wayne:

Quite a few folks have contributed many ideas about the characteristics 
of a new 1500 watt solid state amp.  With all this info, I am now 
curious as to what might make the cut and when.  I won't even go near 
the $$ question. :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] RE/KX3 Future Accessories KX2

[Irma & Linas(LY2H)]

George,
100% supportt! I've been thinking even to swap the KX2 knob with the
lovely-rubber-coated knob of the FT-817ND! Not sure yet  if it is possible
at all, :). Surely, anything original from Elecraft would be of no
hesitations!
Linas LY2H

On 2017 kov. 30, kt at 17:47 George Sereikas  wrote:

>
> Wayne,
>
> I have one small request for the KX2. I’d like to see a replacement VFO
> tuning knob that is easier to tune.  I find that the current knob
> slips/slides off my finger.  A finger “dimple” or maybe something as simple
> as a rubberized knob or cover would do the trick.  Love the KX2 and the
> KX3,  but that one small improvement would be great.
>
> Keep up the great work!
>
> George
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3s, microKEYER II and JT65

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 3/30/2017 10:12 AM, German Duran wrote:

I wrote you to li...@subich.com because I did not have any other mail
from you.


There are three separate e-mail addresses on the "contact us" page
at www.microHAM-USA.com.  Any one of them would work but
"supp...@microham.com" would certainly be more appropriate (and
receive faster response) than my "post only" address.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/30/2017 10:12 AM, German Duran wrote:

Thanks you very much, Joe.

I wrote you to li...@subich.com because I did not have any other mail from
you. I'm sorry and I apologize if that has caused you any discomfort. I'm
going to put into practice the instructions you give me in this email and
I'll tell you how it was. Best regards, HK3J
El jue., 30 mar. 2017 8:53 a. m., Joe Subich, W4TV 
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On 3/30/2017 1:18 AM, German Duran wrote:
  > Dear friends, I need help. I have an Elecraft K3s and a microKEYER
  > II. I can work perfectly RTTY, CW, BPSK31 but I have not managed to
  > work JT65 with any of the programs that exist for JT65 like JT65 HF,
  > HB9HQX, WSJT.

WSJT-X and all the derivatives of JT65HF work *exactly the same* as
any of the BPSK31 software.  If you can work BPSK31, use those settings
for your JT65 programs.  The settings in microHAM Router have *no*
*effect* on the sound card (microHAM CODEC) as the Windows Hardware
Abstraction Layer controls the sound card.

Windows allows only one input of a sound card - Line or Headset
microphone in the case of microHAM CODEC - to be active at a time
and the Windows Sound Mixer controls the playback (transmit) level
for "Headset Earphone (microHAM CODEC)" individually for each
application.

  > I have written to Joe Subich and he has not answered me.

I have not received any e-mail from you at any of the microHAM support
or information e-mail addresses.  The e-mail account used for amateur
lists in which I participate *as an individual* is filtered and only
messages from the servers for those lists is delivered to my personal
in-box.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/30/2017 1:18 AM, German Duran wrote:

Dear friends, I need help. I have an Elecraft K3s and a microKEYER II. I
can work perfectly RTTY, CW, BPSK31 but I have not managed to work JT65
with any of the programs that exist for JT65 like JT65 HF, HB9HQX, WSJT. I
have followed the instructions that come with microKEYER II, I configured
the urouter that brings microKEYER II in many ways, I have written to Joe
Subich and he has not answered me. Who can help me and give some basic
instructions?
I hope someone helps me. 73
German HK3J
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[Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories? lets go mobile .......

[bill steffey]

an external accessory ...

using either the swr bridge in the radio or the kxp100..

a box to run a screwdriver...
I love the KX2  it fits perfectly,  i had tried all sorts of 
tuners  and the nicest  so far is the west mountain  target 
tuner   which uses a separate box ( rfbridge)with a  cat 6 line to he 
'control box...   with manual up dn...  or auto with memories so 
it can use the turns counter in the antenna, or just 2 leads using swr only


with my new VW ( they took away my diesel)   i wired the target tuner 
in , even tho I tend to use  manual  up/dn  peak rcvr noise ... 
usually spot on...

it could be so tidy using the swr out of the amp  
and the tune button could trip to go to closest memory
you already have the freq .so save the turn count

we have come a long way from running my k2 with a beta amp mobile to 
dayton back then...




bill


then you could sell the baby tarheel  ...
it works great up on the roof rack workin' the world 


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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Matt Zilmer]

Hi Walter,

In the K3S, we could move the KIO3B digital electronics to the upper 
section of the main board, far away from the RF board.  The main board 
is also a multi-layer type, so we could sandwich most of the noisy 
digital signals between signal ground planes, shielding them pretty 
effectively.  This solved the problem of digital noise getting into the 
K3S rx.  In the KX radios, digital noise would be in close proximity RF 
boards, so that opportunity is not available to us.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/30/2017 7:58 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

That was my single complaint with the KX3, even before I bought mine. My 
current setup is a rats nest of wires.

On this list, five years ago, Elecraft said that the USB chips were too noisy 
to be inside the radio. I presume they found a way to deal with that for the 
K3S, but they have more room to work with there.

wunder
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On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Peter Pauly  wrote:

USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning, especially the
KX2 since it's new.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Karl DK5LP  wrote:


My greatest wish:
A schematic for the KXPA100/KXKAT100.


vy 73 de
Karl-Heinz, DK5LP /  AK5LP

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[Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Hall, Nathon]

Wayne,



As we head into the noisy bottom of the sunspot cycle, I would like a portable 
radio that I can knock-around on camping trips.



-  Portable; not ultra light

-  Waterproof, shock resistant

-  Should be effective for checking into ssb nets on 75m

-  I think the sweet spot would be 40W

-  Self-contained, large capacity battery ... LiFe?



You could leverage the KX2 with a small 6dB amplifier/tuner and robust battery 
power supply. All fitting inside a waterproof Pelican-style case. The big 
engineering challenge here is packing enough power storage into the design. 
Naturally, we'd want in-situ charging from vehicle, solar, or mains. Without 
removing the battery, please ;-)



You'd capture the pole position for wilderness adventure, RV, motorcycle, 
boating, emcomm, etc. There would even be some non-CW SOTA types willing to 
carry that radio up a mountain (they're already using Yaesu FT-857 or small, 
dirty amplifiers.)



Nathon Hall   VE7ETS

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Hi all,



The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want to 
escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and 
summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.



Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future accessories, 
antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?



73,

Wayne

N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Ken Kaplan]

It would be great if you could plug something internal to a PX3
to make it more of a 'display terminal', with a bit more features, maybe 
for contesting.

73
Ken WB2ART

On 3/30/2017 11:08 AM, Anthony Luscre k...@arrl.net [KX3] wrote:
It would be great to have a small display external with multiple lines 
of decoded text from KX3 and KX3.

I know there is a 3rd party product that does this and much more,
unfortunately, there is one game breaker for me in that this product 
does not allow the ACC 1 computer interface to "pass through"


My ideal device would be a very simple display that connects in the 
following manner:


KX2(3)  ACC <> Scrolling external display <> ACC <> Computer

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Hi all,

The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes
us want to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks,
trails, beaches, and summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.

Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :) What future
accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?

73,
Wayne
N6KR




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