[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   Both bands were fairly quiet with little QSB.  It was nice to hear 
about sunshine when I was sitting in dense fog.  By the way I checked my 
stereo and found I had heard the CW signal when I was listening to 910 
AM.  910 and 1817 kHz are related.  Now to check K7RAT's propagation 
during the Series.


   It got me thinking about running on 160 meters.  K6TR did mention it 
was contagious.  My elevation should help as well as my lack of 
neighbors.  I need to measure my antenna and see how much to cut off of 
it.  The lowest SWR the ATU can attain is 2.4:1  The local trees could 
act as armatures for a vertical.  I think I can teach a squirrel to 
hoist a line to the top but getting him to jump off a limb to carry it 
back down would take time.  Maybe a bow and arrow and some fishing line.



  On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

K4TO - Dave - KY

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K6XK - Roy - IA

AC5P - Mike - OK

K4JPN - Steve - GA


  On 7047.5 kHz at z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K0JFJ - Nick - TX

K4TO - Dave - KY


  I thought of two seasonal events for the end of October.

W0O from Frankenstein, MO

NA5N's Zombie Shuffle from Southern NM the Land of Enchantments

I am sure there are more.

   Until next week stay well,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

[Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP]

I have a similar situation. I have a pair of powerline extenders, and I 
was unable to detect QRM from them on 40-10m. My antenna is not that far 
from the building, either.
But from time to time, I lose my connection and have to disconnect and 
reconnect to get it back. Sometimes it can be quite annoying! It does 
not seem to happen only when I transmit, so I don't think it is picking 
up my signal. They are Zyxels.


73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/


On 21-Oct-2019 02:02, a45wg wrote:

Fellow Elecrafters, I am trying to extend the wifi based internet
coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick concrete walls with
lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd earthquake - but
not so much for wifi.  I am trying to avoid at all costs of drilling
holes in the walls and using ethernet/Fibre/coax etc... With the
effect that I havebeen looking at wifi range extending.  I am
familiar (and not that impressed with Wifi extenders) but I have been
looking at Powerline Extenders - which looks like a clever solution -
but one which sound like it should have a QRM-Health warning to all
Hams written all over it.  So does anyone use Powerline Wifi
extenders ? If so - any issues ... Any models you would recommend (or
suggest to avoid)  If you would like to read more on this technology
the following link should get you started ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug

With this example from TP as to how they can be used

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020-kit/

Many thanks

Tim

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[Elecraft] Subject: Re: P3 SVGA Question

[Jim Shepherd]

Yes it is possible to have multiple 'windows' open on a large monitor.  You
will need a svga to hdmi converter to take the signal from the P3 to a
video multiplexer box which uses multiple hdmi inputs. You can set it for
various configurations of the display screen depending upon the video box.
Currently the svgs/hdmi adapters need 5 Vdc from a usb port, and the one on
the P3 does not supply that voltage.. The video boxes usually have a wall
wart. Your monitor needs to have a hdmi input. These are the items that I
use, there may be better ones out there as I set this up a year and a half
ago...

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PAGKZP4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B078NM7S7N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8=1

73, Jim W6US
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

[Rick WA6NHC]

Look at the data rates too, the last time I looked, it  ...  was ... 
vry  slow  Then remember that your signal will be 
impacting the power lines to some extent.


I use gain antennas where I can, not further than 50' away, which works 
through extenders (repeaters).  You might want to look at mesh 
networking ($$$) as an option.


I run live video through my WiFi repeaters and if you're careful how you 
set them up (listen only on 5 gHz, transmit only on 2.4 gHz to the main 
router; no SSID broadcast, etc) you can optimize bandwidth, IF the 
device(s) can talk on 5 gHz or plug into the extender directly.


I have 'Hardy board' siding, partly concrete; high loss.

Rick NHC

On 10/20/2019 5:36 PM, Ian Kahn wrote:

Tim,

Glad to help! Remember this was several years ago. Maybe things have
improved. Do your homework before coming to a conclusion. I just remember
all the hub-bub from a few years ago, when Internet-over-power line first
came up.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:32 PM T Seed  wrote:


Ian
that’s exactly what I feared/expected … Thanks for the confirmation

Tim

On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:27, Ian Kahn  wrote:

I advise using caution with any Internet-over-power line solutions. Several
years ago there were companies that tried implementing Internet-over-power
line solutions, especially in Texas. Hams fought them tooth and nail (and
won) because these solutions caused so much RFI they left ham radio
useless.

Just my two cents' worth. Good luck finding a solution to your challenge.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:04 PM a45wg  wrote:

Fellow Elecrafters,
I am trying to extend the
wifi based internet coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick
concrete walls with lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd
earthquake - but not so much for wifi.

I am trying to avoid at all costs of drilling holes in the walls
and using ethernet/Fibre/coax etc... With the effect that I havebeen
looking at wifi range extending.

I am familiar (and not that impressed with Wifi extenders) but I
have been looking at Powerline Extenders - which looks like a clever
solution - but one which sound like it should have a QRM-Health warning to
all Hams written all over it.

So does anyone use Powerline Wifi extenders ?
If so - any issues ...
Any models you would recommend (or suggest to avoid)

If you would like to read more on this technology the following link
should get you started ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug

With this example from TP as to how they can be used

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020-kit/

Many thanks

Tim

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Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

[Ian Kahn]

Tim,

Glad to help! Remember this was several years ago. Maybe things have
improved. Do your homework before coming to a conclusion. I just remember
all the hub-bub from a few years ago, when Internet-over-power line first
came up.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:32 PM T Seed  wrote:

> Ian
> that’s exactly what I feared/expected … Thanks for the confirmation
>
> Tim
>
> On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:27, Ian Kahn  wrote:
>
> I advise using caution with any Internet-over-power line solutions. Several
> years ago there were companies that tried implementing Internet-over-power
> line solutions, especially in Texas. Hams fought them tooth and nail (and
> won) because these solutions caused so much RFI they left ham radio
> useless.
>
> Just my two cents' worth. Good luck finding a solution to your challenge.
>
> 73 de,
>
> Ian, NV4C
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:04 PM a45wg  wrote:
>
> Fellow Elecrafters,
>I am trying to extend the
> wifi based internet coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick
> concrete walls with lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd
> earthquake - but not so much for wifi.
>
>I am trying to avoid at all costs of drilling holes in the walls
> and using ethernet/Fibre/coax etc... With the effect that I havebeen
> looking at wifi range extending.
>
>I am familiar (and not that impressed with Wifi extenders) but I
> have been looking at Powerline Extenders - which looks like a clever
> solution - but one which sound like it should have a QRM-Health warning to
> all Hams written all over it.
>
>So does anyone use Powerline Wifi extenders ?
>If so - any issues ...
>Any models you would recommend (or suggest to avoid)
>
> If you would like to read more on this technology the following link
> should get you started ...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
>
> With this example from TP as to how they can be used
>
> https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020-kit/
>
> Many thanks
>
>Tim
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

[Ian Kahn]

I advise using caution with any Internet-over-power line solutions. Several
years ago there were companies that tried implementing Internet-over-power
line solutions, especially in Texas. Hams fought them tooth and nail (and
won) because these solutions caused so much RFI they left ham radio useless.

Just my two cents' worth. Good luck finding a solution to your challenge.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:04 PM a45wg  wrote:

> Fellow Elecrafters,
> I am trying to extend the
> wifi based internet coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick
> concrete walls with lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd
> earthquake - but not so much for wifi.
>
> I am trying to avoid at all costs of drilling holes in the walls
> and using ethernet/Fibre/coax etc... With the effect that I havebeen
> looking at wifi range extending.
>
> I am familiar (and not that impressed with Wifi extenders) but I
> have been looking at Powerline Extenders - which looks like a clever
> solution - but one which sound like it should have a QRM-Health warning to
> all Hams written all over it.
>
> So does anyone use Powerline Wifi extenders ?
> If so - any issues ...
> Any models you would recommend (or suggest to avoid)
>
> If you would like to read more on this technology the following link
> should get you started ...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
>
> With this example from TP as to how they can be used
>
> https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020-kit/
>
> Many thanks
>
> Tim
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Advantages of direct conversion

[Mark Goldberg]

You can find a lot of explanations by searching "advantages of direct
conversion sdr".

Adam has a good explanation here as it relates to amateur radio:

https://www.ab4oj.com/sdr/apdxc16_sdr.pdf

The K4 page K4FAQ tab has some good info too:

https://elecraft.com/pages/k4-pre-order

73,

Mark
W7MLG


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> I've asked this sometime before but did not get any answer, I'll try
> once more ... What are the advantages of direct conversion over a
> superhet?  I know "how" both work, my curiosity is, "What capabilities
> drive a radio like a K4 to use direct conversion?
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
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[Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

[a45wg]

Fellow Elecrafters,
I am trying to extend the wifi 
based internet coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick concrete walls 
with lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd earthquake - but not so 
much for wifi.

I am trying to avoid at all costs of drilling holes in the walls and 
using ethernet/Fibre/coax etc... With the effect that I havebeen looking at 
wifi range extending.

I am familiar (and not that impressed with Wifi extenders) but I have 
been looking at Powerline Extenders - which looks like a clever solution - but 
one which sound like it should have a QRM-Health warning to all Hams written 
all over it.

So does anyone use Powerline Wifi extenders ?
If so - any issues ... 
Any models you would recommend (or suggest to avoid)

If you would like to read more on this technology the following link should get 
you started ... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug

With this example from TP as to how they can be used

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa9020-kit/

Many thanks

Tim

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[Elecraft] K4 Advantages of direct conversion

[Fred Jensen]

I've asked this sometime before but did not get any answer, I'll try 
once more ... What are the advantages of direct conversion over a 
superhet?  I know "how" both work, my curiosity is, "What capabilities 
drive a radio like a K4 to use direct conversion?


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Gwen Patton]

I was a backer for the ReflowR computer controlled SMD hot plate a few
years ago. I had to cough up a little extra for shipping because the
creator munged up his figures and didn't leave enough for shipping, and was
selling the things on Tindie to build up cash to send units to his backers
-- which caused people to get really cheesed off at him. I did get my
ReflowR, however, one with built in Wi-Fi for control with an app, or it
has a bunch of preconfigured profiles in it for most reflow jobs. This was
before ovens like the one you got were available so cheap, so there's only
a LITTLE buyer's remorse.

It DOES work pretty well, though. Combined with my I-Extruder pen for
applying solder paste, it makes SMD work much easier. The I-Extruder can be
used as a vacuum pick-and-place tool as well, or for applying flux in
controlled amounts. Since I don't work a lot with SMD yet, I use it for
applying Amtech Tacky Flux (Thank you, Louis Rossmann!) to my thru-hole
components for good soldering with much less flux application mess.

I also have one of those cheap Chinese WEP hot air reflow stations. Cost me
$60 on Amazon, and it works like a champ. I use it primarily for
heat-shrink, though. Used with that marine-grade heat shrink that's lined
with hot glue, it's a total wizard's tool.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 7:01 PM Mark Goldberg 
wrote:

> I have a well used hot air gun (OK Industries SMT-1160) but I use my Metcal
> iron and hot tweezers a lot more. They have an infinite selection of tips
> for almost anything. They are expensive though, even used.
>
> For us old farts with unsteady hands and bad eyes, a vacuum pickup, lots of
> tweezers and a binocular microscope are a huge help. A flux bottle with a
> dispensing needle tip and a bottle of Isopropyl  Alcohol are musts too. I
> have some tiny solder, solder wick and solder paste for my reflow oven. The
> reflow oven is the bees knees if you are building a lot.
>
> Youth and delicate hands also helps, I have neither but I get by.
>
> Look at my qrz.com page for my setup and links to more info.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:33 PM Dauer, Edward  wrote:
>
> > I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a bunch of
> > SMDs.  I don’t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions about the brand or
> type
> > of hot air soldering gun I should buy?  Any other tools I’ll need, like
> > narrow-gauge solder, wicks, whatever?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Kevin Cozens]

On 2019-10-20 3:33 p.m., Dauer, Edward wrote:

I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a bunch of SMDs.  I 
don???t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions about the brand or type of hot air 
soldering gun I should buy?  Any other tools I???ll need
Solder paste, small non-magnetic tweezers, a good source of light for the 
area, and possibly a magnifying glass that you can use hands free while 
soldering (if soldering the parts by hand). Another option would be one of 
those inspection type microscopes. Your need for either of the last two 
items will depend on your eyesight and how often you will be doing SMD 
related work.


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[Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Mark Goldberg]

I have a well used hot air gun (OK Industries SMT-1160) but I use my Metcal
iron and hot tweezers a lot more. They have an infinite selection of tips
for almost anything. They are expensive though, even used.

For us old farts with unsteady hands and bad eyes, a vacuum pickup, lots of
tweezers and a binocular microscope are a huge help. A flux bottle with a
dispensing needle tip and a bottle of Isopropyl  Alcohol are musts too. I
have some tiny solder, solder wick and solder paste for my reflow oven. The
reflow oven is the bees knees if you are building a lot.

Youth and delicate hands also helps, I have neither but I get by.

Look at my qrz.com page for my setup and links to more info.

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:33 PM Dauer, Edward  wrote:

> I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a bunch of
> SMDs.  I don’t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions about the brand or type
> of hot air soldering gun I should buy?  Any other tools I’ll need, like
> narrow-gauge solder, wicks, whatever?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Kevin McQuiggin]

Hi Ted:

I wanted to get into some SMD building and tried the hot air approach 
initially.  It was difficult and unreliable, and I messed up more than I had 
success.

The best decision I made was to invest in a modestly-priced infrared SMD oven 
from Amazon.  This works perfectly for me and I have now successfully made well 
over 100 boards with the device.

Price range was under $200.  There is a lot of negatively about some of these 
ovens as they are made in China, but despite the poor English in their 
documentation I found that they work just fine.  Put your pasted board inside 
with properly placed components, and “voila!” - a working circuit board in 7 
minutes!

While the English in the documentation for my particular oven was poor, one can 
easily figure out what the writer means.  Similarly, the user interface on my 
oven leaves a bit to be desired, but one can easily figure out what the screens 
mean, and get the job done.

The oven has about 5 pre-programmed heating cycles for different types of 
solder and different heating profiles.  I just use the default cycle as it 
matches my configuration (lead-based solder paste).

Another suggestion is to invest in aluminum solder paste stencils for the 
boards you are building, if they are available.  These are about $8 from a 
place in Utah.  They beat trying to squirt paste onto closely-spaced pads with 
a syringe or other tool!

Hope this info helps, 73,

Kevin VE7ZD / KN7Q





> On Oct 20, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a bunch of SMDs.  I 
> don’t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions about the brand or type of hot air 
> soldering gun I should buy?  Any other tools I’ll need, like narrow-gauge 
> solder, wicks, whatever?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Bill Frantz]

I got a hot air rework device from SparkFun. It does a fine job 
of heating SMT parts so they can be removed and replaced. I did 
the KPOD power upgrade to my K3 using it.


It is currently in the hands of the moving company which is 
moving our stuff from CA to NH as part of our move to 
Peterborough, so I can't give a lot of details. But the invoice, 
which is stored on my computer shows it as:


 Hot-air Rework Station - 303D
 TOL-10706  1
   $114.95


73 Bill AE6JV

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I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a 
bunch of SMDs.  I don’t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions 
about the brand or type of hot air soldering gun I should buy?  
Any other tools I’ll need, like narrow-gauge solder, wicks, whatever?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[David F. Reed]

Not before, but after restart I do; then going to window, zoom on that bar, it 
is visible.

Big thanks for getting me stuck!

73 de David F. Reed, W5SV



> On Oct 20, 2019, at 12:26, David Fleming  wrote:
> 
> David, are you seeing the KX2 menu at the top of the screen when you try to 
> start the app? 
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
> 
> On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 2:09 PM, David F. Reed  
> wrote:
> 
> Grant, thanks for the info; I re-downloaded it, and tried as you suggest.  
> There is no message; it shows on the lower toolbar as running (dot beneath 
> it) but nothing happens (never shows on screen).
> 
> David F. Reed, W5SV
> 
> 
> 
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:00, Grant Youngman  > > wrote:
> > 
> > i just tried it on my Catalina MacBook Pro out of curiosity  — I don’t own 
> > a KX2.  Opens and runs fine.
> > 
> > Do you get any kind of message when you try to open it?  If I just click on 
> > it in the Downloads folder directly from the Dock, I get a message that it 
> > won’t open because it was downloaded from the internet.  (There’s something 
> > screwy with Catalina and the behavior of the Downloads Dock icon anyway). 
> > If I open Downloads in Finder and then run it properly it runs fine.
> > 
> > Grant NQ5T
> > 
> >> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, David F. Reed  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
> >> 10.15 Catalina.
> >> 
> >> I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.
> >> 
> >> Any hints?
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> David F. Reed
> > 
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[Elecraft] OT - Hot Air Soldering Guns for SMDs

[Dauer, Edward]

I am thinking about trying my hand at building a kit with a bunch of SMDs.  I 
don’t yet know the gauge.  Any suggestions about the brand or type of hot air 
soldering gun I should buy?  Any other tools I’ll need, like narrow-gauge 
solder, wicks, whatever?

Thanks,

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[David Fleming via Elecraft]

David, are you seeing the KX2 menu at the top of the screen when you try to 
start the app? 
David, W4SMT


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 2:09 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:

Grant, thanks for the info; I re-downloaded it, and tried as you suggest.  
There is no message; it shows on the lower toolbar as running (dot beneath it) 
but nothing happens (never shows on screen).

David F. Reed, W5SV



> On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:00, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> i just tried it on my Catalina MacBook Pro out of curiosity  — I don’t own a 
> KX2.  Opens and runs fine.
> 
> Do you get any kind of message when you try to open it?  If I just click on 
> it in the Downloads folder directly from the Dock, I get a message that it 
> won’t open because it was downloaded from the internet.  (There’s something 
> screwy with Catalina and the behavior of the Downloads Dock icon anyway). If 
> I open Downloads in Finder and then run it properly it runs fine.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
>> 
>> I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
>> 10.15 Catalina.
>> 
>> I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> David F. Reed
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[Grant Youngman]

David ..

I’ve seen that happen with other apps occasionally.  But to be honest, I have 
no clue what causes it (permissions glitch, maybe?)  Have you tried rebooting 
the Mac?  Probably won’t help, but is sometimes the universal cure-all — like 
hitting a radio on the side when it quits working :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 2:09 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
> 
> Grant, thanks for the info; I re-downloaded it, and tried as you suggest.  
> There is no message; it shows on the lower toolbar as running (dot beneath 
> it) but nothing happens (never shows on screen).
> 
> David F. Reed, W5SV
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:00, Grant Youngman  wrote:
>> 
>> i just tried it on my Catalina MacBook Pro out of curiosity  — I don’t own a 
>> KX2.  Opens and runs fine.
>> 
>> Do you get any kind of message when you try to open it?  If I just click on 
>> it in the Downloads folder directly from the Dock, I get a message that it 
>> won’t open because it was downloaded from the internet.  (There’s something 
>> screwy with Catalina and the behavior of the Downloads Dock icon anyway). If 
>> I open Downloads in Finder and then run it properly it runs fine.
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
>>> 10.15 Catalina.
>>> 
>>> I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.
>>> 
>>> Any hints?
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> David F. Reed
>> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[David F. Reed]

Grant, thanks for the info; I re-downloaded it, and tried as you suggest.  
There is no message; it shows on the lower toolbar as running (dot beneath it) 
but nothing happens (never shows on screen).

David F. Reed, W5SV



> On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:00, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> i just tried it on my Catalina MacBook Pro out of curiosity  — I don’t own a 
> KX2.  Opens and runs fine.
> 
> Do you get any kind of message when you try to open it?  If I just click on 
> it in the Downloads folder directly from the Dock, I get a message that it 
> won’t open because it was downloaded from the internet.  (There’s something 
> screwy with Catalina and the behavior of the Downloads Dock icon anyway). If 
> I open Downloads in Finder and then run it properly it runs fine.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
>> 
>> I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
>> 10.15 Catalina.
>> 
>> I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> David F. Reed
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[Grant Youngman]

i just tried it on my Catalina MacBook Pro out of curiosity  — I don’t own a 
KX2.  Opens and runs fine.

Do you get any kind of message when you try to open it?  If I just click on it 
in the Downloads folder directly from the Dock, I get a message that it won’t 
open because it was downloaded from the internet.  (There’s something screwy 
with Catalina and the behavior of the Downloads Dock icon anyway). If I open 
Downloads in Finder and then run it properly it runs fine.

Grant NQ5T

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
> 
> I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
> 10.15 Catalina.
> 
> I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.
> 
> Any hints?
> Thanks!
> 
> David F. Reed

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[Elecraft] KX2 Utility for MAC not working for me

[David F. Reed]

I am  trying to use the 64 bit KX2 Utility on my MacBook Pro running macOS 
10.15 Catalina.

I click on it and it never opens. K3 Utility works fine FWIW.

Any hints?
Thanks!

David F. Reed



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Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Most operating systems have NTP clients built in.

Sure, there are a million clients out there (I use Tardis), and there 
are probably more that work under BSD-like UNIX (MacOS).


The one built in to the OS is probably just fine.

73 -- Lynn

On 10/19/2019 8:50 PM, Randy Heise wrote:

As a new FT-8 user on my K2, I find this thread fascinating. But all these 
software solutions appear to be for PC’s. Is there something equivalent for 
Macs?

Randy, NB7E

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:59 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


My laptop, which I use for FT8, fires up about 2.5 seconds off. That's unusable 
for FT8, which is why I use Meinberg NTP to sync it.  I couldn't care less if 
it was 2 minutes off for logging (even for contesting), but for FT8 it should 
be, as you say, 0.5 seconds or better for best results.  Meinberg (which is 
free) puts me within one or two tenths of a second of everyone else.

Dave   AB7E



On 10/19/2019 12:32 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
For logging purposes +/- a few seconds is relatively unimportant.  For timed or 
sequence transmissions 0.5 seconds seems adequate.  I see on reason to maintain 
microsecond timing.

Remember, it's only a hobby.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Tox  wrote:


Typical NTP implementations only query every N minutes. Might check to see
if your implementation also checks at startup, but if you're just
suspend/waking a windows laptop it may not be triggering that sort of
event, and just waiting for next scheduled update.

Good luck

Scott
AD6YT

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 10:43 AM David Gilbert 
wrote:


I don't have to rerun Meinberg.  It does everything by itself.  For some
reason it just doesn't seem to do it on startup ... it takes a few
minutes before it kicks in.  So far I haven't figured out why.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 10/19/2019 4:37 AM, David Woolley wrote:
There is something wrong if you have to re-run a Windows installer
every time that you boot Windows!  The Meinberg product is just an
installer; the actual software installed is the open source NTP
reference implementation, currently owned by the University of
Delaware, and developed under the leadership of David Mills W3HCF.

The reference version means the version used to verify the
implementability of the specification in the RFC document.


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy

[Bill Frantz]

Apologies to Eric who closed this thread, but getting Macs to 
work is on topic and generally not covered much on this list. 
Please tell me if I am off base and I'll try to clean up my act.


The built in Mac time synch works very well. Since I sometimes 
operate where there is no Internet access, I am thrown back on 
the accuracy of the computer clock. I can get enough off that 
FT8 doesn't work any more. The solution is to fire up my phone 
as a hot spot, connect to it, and use the Date and Time panel to 
change the time provider away from North America and back. That 
gooses the software into doing a synch and then things are good again.


I have never gotten manual setting of the time to work well 
enough for FT8. I would love a technique that worked well for 
when that rare DX is the one that is off. A QSO in both logs is 
more valuable than correct time.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/19/19 at 11:50 PM, ran...@greywolfstudios.com (Randy 
Heise) wrote:


As a new FT-8 user on my K2, I find this thread fascinating. 
But all these software solutions appear to be for PC’s. Is 
there something equivalent for Macs?


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[Elecraft] Sub RX no sound

[Randy Lake]

I have not used the Sub in a very long time. I tried to use it last evening
and I get no audio out of that channel. It is using the correct antenna
(1), correct FL1, RX antenna is not selected, Mix is A - b. If I choose A
A I do get A out of both speakers. Sub AF is balance .
I have gone through the manual and see nothing that stands out but before I
tear into it wanted to check here.
Thanks all !
Randy N1KWF

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[Elecraft] Elecraft-KX io group

[Thaire Bryant]

Thank you all, I am up and running!

73
Thaire. W2APF
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy

[Edward R Cole]

Since I run mostly digital eme (JT65) my computer time accuracy needs 
are pretty strick (<1 second).  For years I used dimension 4 and 
switched to BktTimeSync (from IZ2BKT) last four years to utilize GPS 
time using a cheap USB dongle GPS unit.


BktTime can sync to NTP off the Internet or from a GPS.  Or have both 
running.  I run with NTP turned off and GPS Sync on startup so I do 
not need an Internet connection.  I have another computer for 
Internet/e-mail/loggers, etc.


Just booted the computer and got an update of 1.903000 seconds.  Next 
sync shifted time -0.027000 seconds.  I have it set for sync every 
ten minutes which keeps time within about 0.2 seconds which is more 
than adequate for synchronous digital modes (like JT65 or FT8).


I do not use the clock in my K3 so rarely update it.  Logging is 
manual using computer time.


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Wow, it mist be a poor propagation day.. 

Thread closed. Its volume is way out of control. 

Folks, please self moderate on your posts when there have been a lot of 
postings on a topic. Its not necessary to beat topics to death as this one has 
been. 

73,
Eric
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