Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
See also my Contest University presentation, "Everything You Need to Know
About USB and Serial Interfaces" (https://bit.ly/USBserial) for photos of
these adpaters plus tips on managing all those virtual serial ports.
There's a link to this and other presentations on my QRZ.COM page (
https://www.qrz.com/db/n6tv).

A genuine FTDI USB-to-Serial adapter is built into the S-BOX-USB (or two of
them in S-BOX-USB-2).  The S-BOX-USB models can be used to drive a K3, KX2
or KX3 using standard cables, no soldering needed.  You can even get the
equivalent of the K3S menu setting "CONFIG:RTS-DTR PTT-KEY" for a KX2 or
KX3.  That is, you get rig control plus computer-generated PTT and CW
keying over a single USB cable when using an S-BOX-USB to connect the PC to
the transceiver.

Finally, many folks have used the standard S-BOX (no USB) with a K3S + P3 +
CBLP3Y to split the serial data in the Elecraft Y-cable to a SteppIR
antenna controller or similar.

More info. at the links below.

73,
Bob, N6TV
https://bit.ly/S-BOX
https://bit.ly/Y-BOX

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> Thank you for the replies.   Looks like one less issue to fuss with
> Richard
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Re: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend

2020-01-25 Thread Macy monkeys


...I even heard one '10-4.'

But I'll admit he was wall-to-wall and tree-top tall ;)

John K7FD



> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> I worked several stations this afternoon during Winter Field Day.   I found 
> several precisely on 7.175 MHz on LSB.   In checking calls, I found several 
> with a General Class license and one with a Technician class license.   The 
> point being, the LSB modulation was out of the band for their license class.  
>   OOPS!
> 
> And of course I noted several others on the band that seemed to understand 
> and follow the technique of "all knobs fully to the right" for the event.   
> In one case, the station as displayed on my P3 had about as much modulation 
> on the USB as the LSB, complete with lip smacks, nasal noise, and breath 
> inhale sounds. Pitiful.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2020-01-25 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,

   I took advantage of the current break in the rain to hike along the 
less muddy areas of my newly thinned forest.  Lots of firewood for me to 
collect and a lot more sky.  When I got to a lower area on the NW corner 
I heard running water.  The intermittent stream was flowing.  A number 
of new ponds and a few small waterfalls.  Come springtime there will be 
a competition between the normally rare mosquitoes and the more common 
frogs. Hopefully the frogs will get fat and breed like crazy.  Not as 
many tracks as I had hoped but it has been raining around an inch a day 
or more so tracks don't last long.  I did find a few elk prints and more 
from deer.  I am not used to being able to see so far.  It is much 
easier to see the rolling topography.  In a few years the trees should 
recognize their new environment and grow like crazy.


  A new sunspot popped up today.  Its polarity shows it is from cycle 
24.  The solar flux index remains stuck in the low 70s.  It has been a 
very long time since it has gotten higher than 73.  The auroral oval 
also shows light solar wind activity.  The QSB should be about the same 
as last week.  Hopefully I won't have to dodge CQs tomorrow.  But be 
ready to move net frequency to lessen interference.  It is tough to run 
the net when I cannot hear anyone and they can't hear me over the QRM.



Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday  (2 PM PST Sunday)
 7047 kHz at z Monday  (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

   Kevin. KD5ONS

-


Seal up the ship-boy's eyes, and rock his brains
In cradle of the rude imperious surge,
And in the visitation of the winds,
Who take the ruffian billows by the top,
Curling their monstrous heads, and hanging them
With deafing clamour in the slippery clouds,
That with the hurly death itself awakes?

Canst thou, O partial sleep, give thy repose
To the wet sea-boy in an hour so rude;
And in the calmest and most stillest night,
With all appliances and means to boot,
Deny it to a king?

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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3

2020-01-25 Thread Nr4c
I have great results using the KUSB from Rlecraft bits not one of the “Low 
Price” variety, but uses the FTDI chipset and has worked for everything I 
needed one for. 

They are so good, that one usually grows “legs” at Field Day most every year 
and I just replace it each July.  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 25, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I can also verify that the VSCOM serial boxes workI have this 8 port 
> one, and it greatly simplifies my cabling in the station.They have all 
> different types and port#s...
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.vscom.de/usb-8com-plus.html
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Clay, KY5G
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2020 at 19:51, Jim Brownwrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:  >  I highly recommend Edgeport USB to 
>> serial adapters. YES! These are industrial quality products, come in 
>> multiple configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and 
>> bought a second one (with more ports) to have as a spare. 73, Jim K9YC 
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3

2020-01-25 Thread Clay Autery
 
 
I can also verify that the VSCOM serial boxes workI have this 8 port 
one, and it greatly simplifies my cabling in the station.They have all 
different types and port#s...
 

 
http://www.vscom.de/usb-8com-plus.html
 

 
73,
 
Clay, KY5G
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
>  
> On Jan 25, 2020 at 19:51, Jim Brownwrote:
>  
>  
>  On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:  >  I highly recommend Edgeport USB to 
> serial adapters. YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple 
> configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a 
> second one (with more ports) to have as a spare. 73, Jim K9YC 
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[Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend

2020-01-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I worked several stations this afternoon during Winter Field Day.   I 
found several precisely on 7.175 MHz on LSB.   In checking calls, I 
found several with a General Class license and one with a Technician 
class license.   The point being, the LSB modulation was out of the band 
for their license class.    OOPS!


And of course I noted several others on the band that seemed to 
understand and follow the technique of "all knobs fully to the right" 
for the event.   In one case, the station as displayed on my P3 had 
about as much modulation on the USB as the LSB, complete with lip 
smacks, nasal noise, and breath inhale sounds. Pitiful.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3

2020-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
I can also recommend the Edgeport USB to serial converters.  They are 
designed for commercial use rather than consumer.  I have 2 of the 4 
port adapters.  One for the home station computer and the other for use 
with the laptop when I am working away from the home station.  The 
latter will serve as a replacement should one fail, but they are sturdy 
devices and not prone to failure.


To run the KX2/KX3/XG3 from a serial port, you can use the KXSER adapter 
from Elecraft, or build your own from the schematic shown near the end 
of the XG3 manual.


I would rather use the Edgeport instead of a USB hub should you run 
short on USB ports.  My shack desktop computer has 6, 2 of which are 
taken up by the keyboard and mouse, and 1 for an external USB soundcard. 
 That leaves only 3 for the ham gear, and one of those is for the 
Edgeport and another the KXUSB for my KX-Line - leaves only one USB port 
for other uses.  My laptop has only 2 USB ports available, so I use the 
Edgeport-4 to run all the RS-232 devices that will accept that signalling.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2020 8:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:

I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.


YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple 
configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a 
second one (with more ports) to have as a spare.



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Re: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend

2020-01-25 Thread Steve Hall
Wayne's message about winter field day reminds me of my first winter field
day, in southern California.  It was about 78 degrees in the park with a
large group.  I got to play with my first Elecraft rig, a K3.  I was sold.
I immediately sold my marginal FTdx1200 and got a K3, KPA500, KAT500 and
P3.
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3

2020-01-25 Thread Jim Brown

On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:

I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.


YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple 
configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a 
second one (with more ports) to have as a spare.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Keith N6JPA
Even the so-called FTDI cables on NewEgg, eBay and Amazon are imitations 
that fail. The best place is through a amateur radio dealer for us hams. 
I used to sell the PL-2303 USB>Serial cables and had to watch out for 
imitations that didn't work from wholesalers.



On 1/25/2020 2:00 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

Beware of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.

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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread j...@kk9a.com
If you order something else with the KUSB from DX Engineering you can also
get free shipping!

John KK9A

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy 7 edge, an AT 4G LTE smartphone.


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:00 PM Dave  wrote:

> I ordered my KXUSB-A cable from DX Engineering. Closer to me, faster
> shipping.
>
> I see you have a 6 area call. If you are in CA then ordering from Elecraft
> should be faster. For those of us on the east coast there are alternatives.
>
> Dave wo2x
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> >
> > You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the Elecraft
> website.
> >
> > John KK9A
> >
> > Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:
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> > Thanks everyone
> > Wow I got many responses,Bob, Ray, Max,
> > Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Barry

Try Elecraft. That's where I got mine.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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for a k3



Hi
   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!

What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.

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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3

2020-01-25 Thread Wes
Good advice from others, however, if you think you might need other serial ports 
for other devices, I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.  Easily 
found on the auction site (which doesn't seem to run many auctions these days).


Wes  N7WS


On 1/25/2020 2:51 PM, Richard Donner wrote:

Hi
I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!

What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.

Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Dave
I ordered my KXUSB-A cable from DX Engineering. Closer to me, faster shipping.

I see you have a 6 area call. If you are in CA then ordering from Elecraft 
should be faster. For those of us on the east coast there are alternatives.

Dave wo2x


Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
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> You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the Elecraft 
> website.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:
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> Thanks everyone
> Wow I got many responses,Bob, Ray, Max,
> Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
> 73 Richardwa6kyr
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread john
You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the  
Elecraft website.


John KK9A

Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:

Thanks everyone
 Wow I got many responses,Bob, Ray, Max,
Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
73 Richardwa6kyr

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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Gary K9GS
I have had very good luck with the Sabrent brand, available from Amazon. Be 
sure to get the FTDI chipset.73,Gary K9GS
 Original message From: Bob McGraw K4TAX  
Date: 1/25/20  4:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Richard Donner  
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to 
buy a SERIAL to USB cable
for a k3 Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good 
cables.  Beware of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.  Some “others” may 
work and some may not thus contributing to issues. Get the good ones and forget 
the cheap ones. Bob, K4TAXSent from my iPhone> On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 
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[Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Richard Donner
Thank you for the replies.   Looks like one less issue to fuss with
Richard
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Richard Donner
Thanks everyone
 Wow I got many responses,Bob, Ray, Max,
Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
73 Richardwa6kyr

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:01 PM Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good cables.  Beware
> of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.  Some “others” may work and
> some may not thus contributing to issues.
>
> Get the good ones and forget the cheap ones.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Richard Donner 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
> >
> > What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
> > If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
> >
> > Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good cables.  Beware of 
cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.  Some “others” may work and some may 
not thus contributing to issues. 

Get the good ones and forget the cheap ones. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Richard Donner  wrote:
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>   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
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> What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
> If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
> 
> Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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[Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3

2020-01-25 Thread Richard Donner
Hi
   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!

What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.

Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100

2020-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ed and all,

It is more complicated than "build an interface".

The KPA100 and KAT100 depend on internal signals in the K2 for proper 
operation.
The first is '12CTRL' which is used to tell the KPA100 that the K2 has 
12 volts present.
Second is '8R' which tells the KPA100 that the K2 has been put into 
transmit.
I will admit that those 2 above could be 'dummied up' by a 12 volt "ON" 
switch and 'PTT'.  But there are other critical signals that are not 
possible except with the K2 base.


The first of those is the 'AUXBUS' which is necessary for the KPA100 and 
KAT100 firmware to operate.  This 'one wire' signal is the main signal 
to communicate among the various firmware processors in the K2 system. 
It includes band data as well as PA temperature, fan state, current 
indication, fan speed control, control of the KPA100 T/R state, TUNE 
power and KAT100 tuning control, detection of actual power output over 
the VRFDET line so the K2 firmware can control the power output.  It is 
also necessary to calculate the SWR as well as measuring the actual 
power output and feeding that information to the base K2 firmware for 
drive power control.


Those latter signal lines would be quite impossible to drag out of a 
KX3, yet they are essential to the proper operation of the KPA100/KAT100.


If one were to redesign the hardware and firmware of the KPA100 and 
KAT100, it may be possible to run them as a standalone amplifier and 
tuner, but given the magnitude of the task, selling the KPA100/KAT100 
and using the money to buy a KXPA100 and KXAT100 would be the best way 
to make a 100 watt system for the KX3.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2020 2:41 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
At first I read KXPA100, not KPA100.  Of course the KXPA100 was designed 
to be a companion  to the KX3.


I have one and drive it with either my KX3 or K3/10 (10w version of the 
K3).


I suppose one could build an interface from KX3 to KPA100.  Basic need 
would be PTT, RF drive, and Band switching.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100

2020-01-25 Thread Edward R Cole
At first I read KXPA100, not KPA100.  Of course the KXPA100 was 
designed to be a companion  to the KX3.


I have one and drive it with either my KX3 or K3/10 (10w version of the K3).

I suppose one could build an interface from KX3 to KPA100.  Basic 
need would be PTT, RF drive, and Band switching.


Years ago, I bought the 100w PA module for a HF mobile with  thoughts 
to make a "cheap 100w amp".  Never got around to it.


I did build some CCI HF kits (300w and 140w) but finally decided on 
the KXPA100/KXTA100 combo.

http://www.kl7uw.com/fs.htm

KX3+KXPA100 works nice in my mobile on HF/6m.  http://www.kl7uw.com/Mobile.htm


73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] Final reminder (WFD)

2020-01-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Today:  www.winterfieldday.com

Happy trails...stay warm.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3

2020-01-25 Thread F5vjc
Agreed . who has a rig with dirty knobs!


On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 12:02, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Who lets their knobs get dirty?  Wash you hands first!  Some of mine are
> from the early days of NorCal and Elecraft.  Maybe I don’t have much oil on
> my skin! Ha!  I have bought some used gear from the 1950’s and 60’s and
> sprayed them with WD40.  Rub til clean.  Then dish soap and toothbrush if
> needed to get the WD40 off.  That is knobs from the boxes under the tables
> at swaps.. some vendors never figured out that I would pay more for a
> clean rig or parts.
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
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> > On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
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> > UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.  Wash in warm water with Dawn
> dishwashing liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.
> >
> > Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before
> re-installation.  Be CAREFUL with the set screws...
> >
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> >> On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
> >> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked
> knobs?
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Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3

2020-01-25 Thread David Wilcox via Elecraft
Who lets their knobs get dirty?  Wash you hands first!  Some of mine are from 
the early days of NorCal and Elecraft.  Maybe I don’t have much oil on my skin! 
Ha!  I have bought some used gear from the 1950’s and 60’s and sprayed them 
with WD40.  Rub til clean.  Then dish soap and toothbrush if needed to get the 
WD40 off.  That is knobs from the boxes under the tables at swaps.. some 
vendors never figured out that I would pay more for a clean rig or parts. 

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.  Wash in warm water with Dawn dishwashing 
> liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.
> 
> Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before re-installation.  
> Be CAREFUL with the set screws...
> 
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>> On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?
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