Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working

[Bill Frantz]

On 8/5/20 at 7:29 AM, n...@comcast.net (N4ZR) wrote:

But first, I'd suggest making very sure that the virtual USB 
port that the KPA-1500 is opening and the one that your 
computer expects are the same. Windows 10 is notorious for 
changing port assignments willy-nilly when you do something as 
simple as  plugging in or unplugging a USB cable.


I've been wondering why I don't experience this problem with my 
MacOS system. After looking carefully at what it saves about a 
USB connection, I discovered that it was recording the serial 
number of the FDTI interface chip. As a result, it doesn't 
matter which hub I plug the K3(upgraded to S) or the other 
USB<-->RS232 adapters I use, they are connected to the correct program.


I wonder what Linux does? If it doesn't handle reconnecting 
USB<-->RS232 well, a Linux hacker could train it to follow 
Apple's lead.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

[Dan Presley]

Interesting subject. The two big X factors in success that are seldom mentioned 
are propagation and most importantly-operating skills. The other day I set out 
for a short SOTA activation wanting to set up a portable 2 element vertical 
beam developed by JP1QEC. I’ve used it with good results on 20M as compared to 
my typical end fed. Anyway-I forgot the poles which are essential to properly 
erect it,so what to do? I usually pack a variety of small portable wire 
antennas ,so not wanting to waste the outing I tossed a wire into a fairly low 
tree branch. My intended band 20 was packed with contesters fun the NAQP and 
furthermore the answer wouldn’t load below  3:1 despite extra radials  
Well-let’s try 30 and 40
just because. It turned out 30 was open and I managed 3 ‘S2S’ (summit to 
summit) contacts,and one on 40. Probably NVIS,but
Antenna strength was better  than I expected-I worked  my 4 for a valid 
activation and a few more beside. Definitely less than optimal antenna but 
sometimes you just need to get out and operate. As I tell my CW students-get on 
 and operate with what you’ve got. 





Dan Presley 503-701-3871
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> On Aug 4, 2020, at 02:08, K8TE  wrote:
> 
> Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume
> from his description.  Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works
> much better than...I had up previously.  But, both antennas aren't up and in
> use at the same time.
> 
> My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well.  "WORKs is an acronym which
> means WithOut Real Knowledge."  Why?  Because the performance assertions are
> not comparative like one gets when using two WSPRLit transmitters on two
> antennas at the same time over time.  Those data will show which antenna
> performs better and how consistently better one antenna is than the other. 
> In every case when I compare antennas, they always out-perform one or two
> others at some point in time.  But, one of the three performs better on
> certain bands at certain times, most, but not all of the time.
> 
> This past Saturday, I frequently noted one dipole out-performed the other on
> a specific station at a specific time, regardless of the band (40m and 20m). 
> I had callers answer my CQ's that I could not here on the other dipole and
> that was true for both dipoles most of the time.  They would "change places"
> at different times for the same paths.  Being able to instantly switch
> between antennas (K3 with internal ATU) helped me make more contacts than if
> I had just one of those dipoles, both about the same height, but at nearly
> right angles to each other.  When I had a vertical in the air, it would
> sometimes out-perform both dipoles over the same paths.
> 
> Every antenna "WORKS", even a dummy load with imperfect coax.  Some antennas
> generally out-perform others.  Don't tell me yours works better than mine
> without scientific proof, not anecdotes.  W8JI has done a lot of antenna
> modeling and on-the-air comparisons in making assertions about antennas'
> performance.  I recently read his statement about end-fed wires being a cult
> today.  He goes on to explain their failings don't appear when using QRP and
> with no other antenna available for comparisons.
> 
> As N0AX wrote, "The best antennas is the one that is up in the air." or
> similar words.  He also wrote the half wave dipole is simple and it works
> well and makes the best first choice.  I would add, the higher the better
> until it's a half wavelength high.  K9YC has done modeling that points this
> out and debunks most of the NVIS myths that abound in which users state we
> need to lower our antennas for NVIS.
> 
> I use end-fed wires when appropriate--SOTA, POTA, and on county lines were
> simplicity and rapid deployment matter more  than RFI, most of which I can
> mitigate or ignore.  I use dipoles at home and most are resonant.  I also
> use WSPRLite to get scientific performance data before I assert they WORK or
> which one is better.  As I wrote above, I will keep both those dipoles
> because they both out-perform the other at times.  As my antenna farm grows,
> one dipole will remain as my measurement "standard" so I can truly say my
> new antenna (nothing short and shiny) out-performs my dipole.  And yes,
> neither is perfect so I use a tuner when necessary on certain
> bands/frequencies.
> 
> 73, Bill, K8TE
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K4 training

[Andy Durbin]

I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and home brew CW/AM 
transmitter with a TT11 final to an TS-590S.  No problem at all reading the 
manual and getting it working.  I even found several firmware defects in the 
first few months of ownership.I recognize that not everyone has an 
engineering background and it's harder for some than others.  When I was 
running the local club's extra and general courses I quickly learned the huge 
range of experience and ability in the amateur radio world.  I also wondered 
how some of the students had passed the technician exam.

I'd far rather have a good searchable pdf manual than a training video.   Don't 
count my vote though as I have no plans to buy a K4.

Andy, k3wyc


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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Jim Brown]

On 8/5/2020 1:50 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide over 
the standard board?


USB interface for both control and audio. Don't know if they fixed the 
Pin One Problems that exist in the orginal.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[John Hiatt]

The late Fred Cady wrote a few notes about the upgrade under section 1.5.2 here 
http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3/should-i-update-my-k3-with-k3s-parts

There is also an FAQ about the upgrade 
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf

John, KC7DRI


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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:50 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide
over the standard board?

My K3, SN4340 dates from 2010 so assume it has a KIO3 board (not sure
if A or B version).  Trying to determine if I want/need the upgrade.

I did add EXREF, TCXO3, upgraded both Synth boards and Gen Coverage
filter to cover 475-KHz (630m) band.  I have the subRx installed.

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Edward R Cole]

Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide 
over the standard board?


My K3, SN4340 dates from 2010 so assume it has a KIO3 board (not sure 
if A or B version).  Trying to determine if I want/need the upgrade.


I did add EXREF, TCXO3, upgraded both Synth boards and Gen Coverage 
filter to cover 475-KHz (630m) band.  I have the subRx installed.


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Wayne indicated the INRAD filters were tested for (passive) IMD
(e.g. "low activity" crystals) at high signal levels.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-08-05 2:31 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
Elecraft screens each Inrad filter that they sell but few are rejected:  
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2017-June/246835.html


John KK9A


Jim Brown K9YC wrote


On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote:

Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140  and
they should still be available.


It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they
supply to Elecraft than for their general production.

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[Jim Brown]

On 8/5/2020 12:39 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

We agree.  But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is 
still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how 
to read the display, and where to connect the antenna.  The exception I’d make 
is that if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe Champion 300 or even 
a Globe Scout he’d likely be completely mystified, and wonder where the RS-232 
interface and keyer speed control was.  THAT might take some training videos, 
or at least an elmer


Sure, but RTFM has always worked for me. Thanks for the reminder -- I 
also had a Globe Scout as a kid. :)


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a K42 Keyer with a K3/K3S

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key
middle: PTT and the body ground.

Connect tip and sleeve to the "(straight) Key In" jack of your K3.
If you elect to use it connect the ring and sleeve from the K1EL
keyer to the PTT In (RCA) jack of your K3.

If you do not use PTT from the K1EL keyer, you must turn on VOX in
CW (semi break-in) or use QSK (full break-in).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-08-05 4:12 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote:

Yes, I had a K42 kit laying about and i thought I might finally finish it and 
see how it worked with my K3 (with most of the S upgrades)
I was easily able to fix up the cables for reading code but I have had a heck 
of a time matching up settings and keying cable connections
so I can play around with the external keyer functionality of this little 
“swiss army knife keyer box”
I have Fred Cady’s third edition(Bless him) and he tries to give info in para 4 
of page 60 but it is somewhat confusing. There is lots of info
following, all the way to pp 84 but it is all oriented to getting a computer 
married to the K3 for digital modes.
The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key middle: PTT and 
the body ground. They say that "the PTT output is
used primarily in HSCW mode or to key an amplifier or antenna relay” and the K3 
manual indicates that anything like a WinKey
interface requires that PTT_KEY should be OFF - OFF. So, it would seem that I 
could ignore the center conductor entirely.
But…my K3 sits quietly and challenges me to to key it externally disregarding 
all my options.

Any suggestions appreciated. Alan/K6ADG


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[Elecraft] KX3 surplus stuff available

[barry halterman]

Greetings. Since selling my Kx3, I have an interface cable set for Kx3/2 to
a hardrock 50 amp. This has never been used and includes two cables and a
pcb to db9 connector. Asking $25 which includes shipping. I also have a
West mountain radio 15 watt power speaker for anything that needs extra
audio umph. Asking $50 includes shipping.
Thanks for reading
Barry
K3bo
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[Elecraft] Using a K42 Keyer with a K3/K3S

[Alan Geller via Elecraft]

Yes, I had a K42 kit laying about and i thought I might finally finish it and 
see how it worked with my K3 (with most of the S upgrades)
I was easily able to fix up the cables for reading code but I have had a heck 
of a time matching up settings and keying cable connections
so I can play around with the external keyer functionality of this little 
“swiss army knife keyer box”
I have Fred Cady’s third edition(Bless him) and he tries to give info in para 4 
of page 60 but it is somewhat confusing. There is lots of info
following, all the way to pp 84 but it is all oriented to getting a computer 
married to the K3 for digital modes. 
The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key middle: PTT 
and the body ground. They say that "the PTT output is
used primarily in HSCW mode or to key an amplifier or antenna relay” and the K3 
manual indicates that anything like a WinKey
interface requires that PTT_KEY should be OFF - OFF. So, it would seem that I 
could ignore the center conductor entirely.
But…my K3 sits quietly and challenges me to to key it externally disregarding 
all my options.

Any suggestions appreciated. Alan/K6ADG
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[Grant Youngman]

We agree.  But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is 
still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how 
to read the display, and where to connect the antenna.  The exception I’d make 
is that if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe Champion 300 or even 
a Globe Scout he’d likely be completely mystified, and wonder where the RS-232 
interface and keyer speed control was.  THAT might take some training videos, 
or at least an elmer :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 8/5/2020 10:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to 
>> effectively use a radio, then that’s a problem — either with the radio’s 
>> owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio.
> 
> I agree, but with this caveat. Each radio mfr has developed their user 
> interface over decades, and each is different from the other to varying 
> degrees. In this century, I've owned Ten Tec, Kenwood, ICOM, and Yaesu. 
> Before that, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, Heathkit, Drake, and WII surplus gear.
> 
> My first Elecraft rig was a K2, bought used in 2003, and I upgraded to a K3 
> in 2008. User interface between those Elecraft radios, and then to the KX3, 
> has maintained the same logic. In every case, RTFM, combined with 
> understanding how radios work, has been all I've needed.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[john]

Elecraft screens each Inrad filter that they sell but few are  
rejected:   
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2017-June/246835.html


John KK9A


Jim Brown K9YC wrote


On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote:

Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140  and
they should still be available.


It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they
supply to Elecraft than for their general production.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[Jim Brown]

On 8/5/2020 10:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:

It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to 
effectively use a radio, then that’s a problem — either with the radio’s owner 
(and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio.


I agree, but with this caveat. Each radio mfr has developed their user 
interface over decades, and each is different from the other to varying 
degrees. In this century, I've owned Ten Tec, Kenwood, ICOM, and Yaesu. 
Before that, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, Heathkit, Drake, and WII surplus 
gear.


My first Elecraft rig was a K2, bought used in 2003, and I upgraded to a 
K3 in 2008. User interface between those Elecraft radios, and then to 
the KX3, has maintained the same logic. In every case, RTFM, combined 
with understanding how radios work, has been all I've needed.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[Jim Brown]

On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140  and
they should still be available.


It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they 
supply to Elecraft than for their general production.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Dr. William J. Schmidt]

I'm not as constrained as they are with respect to buying parts (surplus 
sources, etc.).  I'd settle for a board to build my own in the event of a "no 
go" but of course I know that won't happen.


Dr. William J. Schmidt
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Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June 
order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get 
"reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't define what that means, 
but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to 
 and tell them so - 
otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[Grant Youngman]

It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to 
effectively use a radio, then that’s a problem — either with the radio’s owner 
(and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio.  

Elecraft will no doubt release some user tips for certain aspects of operation, 
just like they did for the K3 and other radios.  Many questions can be answered 
on the list, either by field testers, Elecraft, or others that get their hands 
on one before you do, like they always have been.  It isn’t a bad idea to 
collect these in a single location on the Elecraft website for reference, maybe 
organized by topic, provided that user submissions are vetted by Elecraft 
before they become gospel.

Oh, and none of the computers in my house have DVD drives any longer.  My 
grandkids have no clue what a CD/DVD even is. Which is why I’d suggest a web 
reference as a more universal option :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
> 
> What might be an acceptable alternative is to utilize the potential abilities 
> of the some of the owners.  Many in this group have been responsible for 
> writing, or at least editing, tech manuals for various pieces of high level 
> equipment.  This wouldn't necessarily be to produce a full start-to-finish 
> course in K4 operation, but a collection of user videos with hints & ideas 
> etc.  (NOT however, ones showing the opening of the box, resulting in simple 
> "look-at-my-new-toy" videos!).
> 
> I would volunteer to put all these on a single DVD, once they were approved 
> by the high-command with the obvious dis-claimer statement.  
> Of course, I'll need a K4 to ah, verify the suggested items,  eh?   Just 
> kidding (maybe?).
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[Charlie T]

What might be an acceptable alternative is to utilize the potential abilities 
of the some of the owners.  Many in this group have been responsible for 
writing, or at least editing, tech manuals for various pieces of high level 
equipment.  This wouldn't necessarily be to produce a full start-to-finish 
course in K4 operation, but a collection of user videos with hints & ideas etc. 
 (NOT however, ones showing the opening of the box, resulting in simple 
"look-at-my-new-toy" videos!).

I would volunteer to put all these on a single DVD, once they were approved by 
the high-command with the obvious dis-claimer statement.  
Of course, I'll need a K4 to ah, verify the suggested items,  eh?   Just 
kidding (maybe?).

73, Charlie k3ICH




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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 training


Gary, This would indeed be an asset.Wonder how much effort this would 
take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 

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[Elecraft] USB Ports Not Working

[Lyn Norstad]

Have you ever suddenly found that your rig will not transmit in any of the
digital modes, and suspect that your computer's audio ports have been reset
by an automatic Windows 10 update?  (If you say "no" you better be smiling
...).

A few years back, Microsoft added a security feature to disallow apps from
accessing your system's microphone without permission (so those sneaky
hackers could not listen in on you).  Good to be safe ... but the change
created this problem in the process.

In Windows 10 -> Settings -> Privacy -> Microphone make sure that both
"Allow apps to access your microphone" and "Allow desktop apps to access
your microphone" are turned ON.

It seems that some updates reset this to the default "Off" setting.  Now you
know.

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[N4ZR]

Good point, John.  I don't envy Elecraft all their supply chain 
problems, but it does seem a little soon to be dropping any or all of 
those items.


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On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:


I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in 
Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of 
K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan 
adapter etc.  The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only 
recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a 
long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so 
ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received 
the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants 
K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below.


John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

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I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my
mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient
interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't
define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3
KIO3B update kit, go to



and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent
updates for the K3.


73, Pete N4ZR


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Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express

[Lyn Norstad]

Fred -

As I mentioned, without going into great detail, training IS required.

FEMA courses 100, 200, 700 and 800 are the normal minimum, with others added.
ARRL EC-001 is also basic.
SATERN (Salvation Army) courses vary by region, but include Safe From Harm, and 
Advanced Group Crisis Intervention.

In addition, message handling (written) is routinely taught.  Familiarity with 
ICS as well as Red Cross, SATERN and various ARRL and State forms is also 
needed and practiced.

Again, I agree with what you're saying.  The P2P group offers opportunities for 
newbies to find an Elmer to help guide them thru the process.  While any event 
involvement will likely be local, there are times that P2P "local" contacts may 
be facilitated by a station located elsewhere, so the capability to relay 
messages is also important.

73
Lyn, W0LEN



-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 2:05 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express

"I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the 
participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, 
it is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and 
others on local, regional and national levels."

Well ... For about 8 years, I coordinated the amateur communications for 
the Western States Endurance Run [100 miles, Squaw Valley CA to Auburn 
CA via the historic Western States Trail] and the Tevis Cup endurance 
ride on roughly the same course.  Both events draw entrants from around 
the world. Required about 100-120 hams and maybe an equal number of 
non-licensed family/friends with FRS radios around each of the aid 
stations.  Primary mission was safety and evacuation, often coordinating 
directly with medical airlift aircraft, secondary mission was logistics.

These are large, grueling events with multiple hundreds of staff at 20+ 
aid stations.  Runners and horses will face ~18,000 ft of elevation 
gain, ~22,000 feet of descent, often run on snow and ice near the 
summit, in 110 degree heat in the lower canyons, and a 24 hour 
deadline.  Really not unlike a major disaster.

One thing we proved conclusively, without exception, is that possession 
of an amateur radio license does not automatically make one a competent 
radio operator when the mission is anything but a rag chew.  We had to 
establish training sessions on standardized phraseology, message 
handling, details of the event, procedures, how the chain of command 
worked, and the like.  Prior to the events, we coupled up trail marking 
and clearing operations into exercises.  It is way more work and there 
are way more details to being truly effective that most believed, and 
many who started the training did not finish.  We always paired a new 
"training graduate" with a seasoned operator having found that even with 
the training program, a rookie operator alone at a station sometimes was 
less effective and created more problems than no operator at all.

Amateur missions such as these are inherently local.  It is virtually 
impossible to show up somewhere with a radio and be effective unless the 
amateurs know the served agency and its mission well, are well known to 
the served agency, have a practiced plan and procedures, and are 
effective and professional communicators.  [See first sentence in 4th 
paragraph above].

If it seems I'm sort of camping with James, K8JHR, it's because, even 
though I don't own a gun right now, I am.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/4/2020 4:56 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the
> participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it
> is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on
> local, regional and national levels.  Many of us have completed the required
> FEMA training and participate in exercises regularly through our local
> organizations (ARES, etc.).
>
> The voluntary participation by Hams in the case of natural disasters, for
> example, is well documented.  Many of us have taken it seriously enough to
> actually get the required training offered to us by FEMA, ARRL, etc.  Groups
> such as SATERN and the Red Cross hold periodic Simulated Emergency Tests
> with the active participation of ham radio groups.
>
> Right now, hams in the South Carolina area are actively participating in
> emergency communications related to Hurricane Isaias.  Are they "riding high
> and saving the day" ?  Probably not, but they are contributing their skills
> and facilities in an effort to serve the public need.
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JHRichards
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:18 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 

Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Clark Macaulay]

Ed,

Part of your name got embedded into the url--something I've done from time
to time. This should work.

https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form

Clark, WU4B

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:49 AM Ed W0YK  wrote:

>
> The link below is broken.   Should be:
> https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form73,Ed W0YK
>  Original message From: N4ZR  Date:
> 8/4/20  14:47  (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft List 
> Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales
> that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit
> unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their
> suppliers.  They don 't define what that means, but if you have any
> interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to <
> https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form> and tell them so
> - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3.--
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[Elecraft] KIO3B update kit,

[Bill via Elecraft]

I was assured in an email back in June
that the  KIO3B kits will be available as soon as things return to “normal” and 
parts are available. Anyone interested should be asked to be placed o the 
waiting list. 

Thanks, 
Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[j...@kk9a.com]

Inrad made the 8-pole filters  https://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140 and
they should still be available.  I am not sure where the 5 and 6 pole
filters were made.

 John KK9A

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On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM Henry Pollock - K4TMC 
wrote:

> The list at that link does not include filters.  So what does one do if
> they want a filter?
>
> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:03 AM  wrote:
>
>>
>> I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in
>> Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of
>> K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan
>> adapter etc.  The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only
>> recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a
>> long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so
>> ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received
>> the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants
>> K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below.
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> N4ZR wrote:
>>
>> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
>> I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my
>> mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient
>> interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't
>> define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3
>> KIO3B update kit, go to
>>
>> 
>>
>> and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent
>> updates for the K3.
>>
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Ed W0YK]

The link below is broken.   Should 
be:https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form73,Ed W0YK
 Original message From: N4ZR  Date: 8/4/20  
14:47  (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft List  Subject: 
[Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are 
not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get 
sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 
't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B 
update kit, go to  and 
tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the 
K3.-- 73, Pete N4ZRCheck out the Reverse Beacon Networkat 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[Henry Pollock - K4TMC]

The list at that link does not include filters.  So what does one do if
they want a filter?

73,
Henry - K4TMC


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:03 AM  wrote:

>
> I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in
> Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of
> K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan
> adapter etc.  The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only
> recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a
> long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so
> ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received
> the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants
> K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> N4ZR wrote:
>
> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my
> mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient
> interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't
> define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3
> KIO3B update kit, go to
>
> 
>
> and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent
> updates for the K3.
>
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

[Mark Musick]

I too have had conversations with Madelyn about upgrades.
I did order the KXV3B and it is on the way.
I put my name on the list for the KIO3B and K3SYNA.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

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Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 21:48
To: Elecraft List 
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list

I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June 
order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get 
"reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't define what that means, 
but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to 
 and tell them so - 
otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List

[john]

I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in  
Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of  
K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan  
adapter etc.  The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only  
recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a  
long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so  
ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received  
the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants  
K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below.


John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my
mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient
interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.  They don 't
define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3
KIO3B update kit, go to



and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent
updates for the K3.


73, Pete N4ZR


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working

[N4ZR]

But first, I'd suggest making very sure that the virtual USB port that 
the KPA-1500 is opening and the one that your computer expects are the 
same. Windows 10 is notorious for changing port assignments willy-nilly 
when you do something as simple as  plugging in or unplugging a USB cable.


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On 8/4/2020 10:09 PM, Cody C via Elecraft wrote:

My KPA just came back for the same issue. Elecraft replaced the USB protection 
diode pack. Hope this helps

73 Cody KC2LSD
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[RICHARD Martin]

A how to video would be a very nice feature, but we must remember the cost
of developing such a thing when our friends at Elecraft have to be in
desperate need of cash.

Due to the Government restrictions their cash flow has essentially stopped
because they cannot efficiently manufacture and ship products.

Thru most of my professional life, I have been responsible for the
conception, prototyping, and manufacture of large scientific instruments
($100K to $5M).  The cost of the manuals/documentation was typically equal
to the development cost of the product.

Dick KN6AA

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 00:23 turnbull  wrote:

>
> Gary, This would indeed be an asset.Wonder how much effort this would
> take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Gary Smith  Date:
> 05/08/2020  03:07  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re:
> [Elecraft] K4 training Yes, That's the current way of things. What I
> suggest would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by
> Elecraft, with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you
> want being done.I'm not thinking so much where is the Power Switch, but
> more like how to determine which thought process to use with the
> K4/K4D/K4HD to best accomplish commonly used procedures, and then how to
> get that done. Things like the display will be a bugger for awhile & the
> picture being worth a thousand words concept is magnified with concise
> video.Do-it-yourselfers on youtube will not get to the point & will be
> offering opinions which isn't helpful to the direct question. More, you'll
> have to use youtube's search engine to hopefully find what you're looking
> for, and then be subjected to advertisements before and during the
> presentation.It'll all be sorted out, I'm just thinking the official video
> how-to would be a real asset to many. Maybe not.73 & stay safe,GaryKA1J> I
> AM SURE...> When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be
> a> "flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos.  I am sure the how-to videos> will
> follow.> > 73, steve WB3LGC> > On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote:> > > >
> Gary makes a good suggestion.TenTec use to have a CD  which> >
> accompanied the Orion 2.   This is going to be a pretty complex> > radio
> with all its features.   "Are we there yet?"Hang in there> > good ship
> Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do> > not speak
> English.That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my> > Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone.  Original message From:> > Gary Smith <
> g...@ka1j.com> Date: 04/08/2020  07:05  (GMT+00:00) To:> >
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would> >
> really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released> > on
> the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to> > enter, a
> how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest.> > Either a
> bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic &> > exactly to the
> point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily> > replayed till the
> idea is understood. That, or a good legend> > accompanying a long, more
> encompassing presentation with reference> > time marks to know where to
> search for a given demonstration.We all> > learn differently, I have 11
> years of college under my belt, but in> > my old age I still say I learn
> best by observing a demonstration> > than otherwise.But that's just> >
> me.73,GaryKA1JElecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[turnbull]

Gary, This would indeed be an asset.    Wonder how much effort this would 
take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Gary Smith  Date: 
05/08/2020  03:07  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] K4 training Yes, That's the current way of things. What I suggest 
would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by Elecraft, 
with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you want being 
done.I'm not thinking so much where is the Power Switch, but more like how to 
determine which thought process to use with the K4/K4D/K4HD to best accomplish 
commonly used procedures, and then how to get that done. Things like the 
display will be a bugger for awhile & the picture being worth a thousand words 
concept is magnified with concise video.Do-it-yourselfers on youtube will not 
get to the point & will be offering opinions which isn't helpful to the direct 
question. More, you'll have to use youtube's search engine to hopefully find 
what you're looking for, and then be subjected to advertisements before and 
during the presentation.It'll all be sorted out, I'm just thinking the official 
video how-to would be a real asset to many. Maybe not.73 & stay safe,GaryKA1J> 
I AM SURE...> When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be a> 
"flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos.  I am sure the how-to videos> will 
follow.> > 73, steve WB3LGC> > On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote:> > > > Gary 
makes a good suggestion.    TenTec use to have a CD  which> > accompanied the 
Orion 2.   This is going to be a pretty complex> > radio with all its features. 
  "Are we there yet?"Hang in there> > good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now 
feel for our friends who do> > not speak English.    That is the majority of 
mankind.Sent from my> > Samsung Galaxy smartphone.  Original message 
From:> > Gary Smith  Date: 04/08/2020  07:05  
(GMT+00:00) To:> > elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I 
would> > really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released> > 
on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to> > enter, a 
how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest.> > Either a bunch 
of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic &> > exactly to the point so 
they'd be easy to find and could be easily> > replayed till the idea is 
understood. That, or a good legend> > accompanying a long, more encompassing 
presentation with reference> > time marks to know where to search for a given 
demonstration.We all> > learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my 
belt, but in> > my old age I still say I learn best by observing a 
demonstration> > than otherwise.But that's just> > 
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