Re: [Elecraft] K2 trouble shooting

2009-11-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

OK, on that line which is pin 14 on U3, there is only a couple mv but no 
pulses. The state of that line never changes. The other strange thing is 
the ENC-A data level only being 2v p-p verses ENC-B which is a full 5v 
p-p signal. Shouldn't both ENC data lines be a full 5v p-p TTL signal?

Worst case, does Elecraft take in repairs direct? I could send in both 
display boards if that is the case. I sure wish I had test boards to 
swap in, to verify which board is causing the issues.

I received the final amp rebuilding components the other day but I will 
wait to install them until after this dead VFO issue is repaired.

Mike
WE0H



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 Other than the wiring paths for ENC A and ENC B signals through the 
 connectors and to CB U6 pins 8 and 16,
 there is nothing else for these two signals.  However, for the encoder 
 to be read, the /ENC RD signal must be at a low level and that signal 
 is generated from FP U3 pin 14.  Look for low going pulses with your 
 scope.  If they are not present, FP U3 may be at fault.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Hi Don,

 Ref K2 #6698:

 I tried a new encoder but it did nothing different than the original 
 encoder. Tonight I see that ENC-A is only 2v p-p while ENC-B is 5v 
 p-p. This is measured right on the encoder terminals and on the U6 
 MCU chip. I don't see any resistor network pull ups on these lines. 
 Do you think the MCU could have gotten hurt with the spike on the 14v 
 VCC line that shorted the one final and that VCC filter cap? I see 
 data on both ENC lines when I spin the encoder. The Encoder VCC is a 
 solid 5.0vdc. All other functions work on this radio except anything 
 where I need to turn the encoder to access something in a menu or 
 change anything. The radio receives fine on whatever the display freq 
 is and transmits fine on the same freq on all bands. I just can't 
 change any VFO digit other than the far right digit, or if I spin the 
 encoder shaft left  right, it will slowly increase the displayed 
 freq but not go down.

 Mike
 WE0H

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 trouble shooting

2009-11-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

OK, I can see those signals on pin 6  16 easily. Pin 14 is dead. It 
stays low. I am using DC coupling. ENC-A is only going to 2v and ENC-B 
goes to 5v. Both those data lines show data when the encoder is spun in 
either direction. Both lines will either rest at zero or a high state. 
But, ENC-A high is 2v not 5v. ENC-B high is 5v. Something is not right 
with ENC-A. If I pull the jumper wire from the encoder's ENC-A line and 
put the scope on the encoder's ENC-A terminal, I now get the 5v p-p 
signal that I would expect out of the encoder. So with that said, the 
MCU is not letting the ENC-A data line swing from 0-5v. It only allows a 
0-2v swing which is not enough. Would you agree the MCU is faulty  the 
U3 IC? Having two IC's giving troubles is rare but this radio suffered 
from severe spikes on the 14v line which shorted a electrolytic cap and 
one final transistor.

BTW, I am copying this to the Elecraft reflector so it is in the 
database for someone else down the road. This is definitely a strange 
problem with this radio. I think we are getting closer to the solution.

Mike
WE0H



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 Do you have the 'scope vertical amp set to DC?  This is logic level 
 switching and the DC levels are significant, not the peak to peak 
 variation.  Yes, the levels must be above or below the switching 
 thresholds.
 On the /ENC RD line, compare it to the levels at FP U3 pins 6 and/or 
 16 - it should be similar.
 To really tell the whole story, one would have to use 3 probes on the 
 'scope - trigger on the /ENC RD signal going low and observe the state 
 of the ENC A and ENC B signals at that time.

 Elecraft does repairs, but only on complete kits.  If this is the 
 route you need to go, contact sa...@elecraft.com for further 
 information and obtain an RSA number with instructions for packing and 
 where to send it.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Hi Don,

 OK, on that line which is pin 14 on U3, there is only a couple mv but 
 no pulses. The state of that line never changes. The other strange 
 thing is the ENC-A data level only being 2v p-p verses ENC-B which is 
 a full 5v p-p signal. Shouldn't both ENC data lines be a full 5v p-p 
 TTL signal?

 Worst case, does Elecraft take in repairs direct? I could send in 
 both display boards if that is the case. I sure wish I had test 
 boards to swap in, to verify which board is causing the issues.

 I received the final amp rebuilding components the other day but I 
 will wait to install them until after this dead VFO issue is repaired.

 Mike
 WE0H



 Don Wilhelm wrote:
  
 Mike,

 Other than the wiring paths for ENC A and ENC B signals through the 
 connectors and to CB U6 pins 8 and 16,
 there is nothing else for these two signals.  However, for the 
 encoder to be read, the /ENC RD signal must be at a low level and 
 that signal is generated from FP U3 pin 14.  Look for low going 
 pulses with your scope.  If they are not present, FP U3 may be at 
 fault.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:

 Hi Don,

 Ref K2 #6698:

 I tried a new encoder but it did nothing different than the 
 original encoder. Tonight I see that ENC-A is only 2v p-p while 
 ENC-B is 5v p-p. This is measured right on the encoder terminals 
 and on the U6 MCU chip. I don't see any resistor network pull ups 
 on these lines. Do you think the MCU could have gotten hurt with 
 the spike on the 14v VCC line that shorted the one final and that 
 VCC filter cap? I see data on both ENC lines when I spin the 
 encoder. The Encoder VCC is a solid 5.0vdc. All other functions 
 work on this radio except anything where I need to turn the encoder 
 to access something in a menu or change anything. The radio 
 receives fine on whatever the display freq is and transmits fine on 
 the same freq on all bands. I just can't change any VFO digit other 
 than the far right digit, or if I spin the encoder shaft left  
 right, it will slowly increase the displayed freq but not go down.

 Mike
 WE0H

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 trouble shooting

2009-11-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
OK, I will contact the Elecraft Parts department and see how to order 
these two components. Thank you again and lets hope this is the final 
answer to this damaged K2. I will post when and what all was required to 
repair this radio on this reflector so it may help others if they run 
into this sort of issue.

Mike
WE0H


Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 Yes, it sounds like you have it adequately analyzed and I do agree 
 with your conclusions.  FP U3 has a bad pin 14 output and the MCU 
 input for ENC A also has a problem and is dragging the signal down.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Hi Don,

 OK, I can see those signals on pin 6  16 easily. Pin 14 is dead. It 
 stays low. I am using DC coupling. ENC-A is only going to 2v and 
 ENC-B goes to 5v. Both those data lines show data when the encoder is 
 spun in either direction. Both lines will either rest at zero or a 
 high state. But, ENC-A high is 2v not 5v. ENC-B high is 5v. Something 
 is not right with ENC-A. If I pull the jumper wire from the encoder's 
 ENC-A line and put the scope on the encoder's ENC-A terminal, I now 
 get the 5v p-p signal that I would expect out of the encoder. So with 
 that said, the MCU is not letting the ENC-A data line swing from 
 0-5v. It only allows a 0-2v swing which is not enough. Would you 
 agree the MCU is faulty  the U3 IC? Having two IC's giving troubles 
 is rare but this radio suffered from severe spikes on the 14v line 
 which shorted a electrolytic cap and one final transistor.

 BTW, I am copying this to the Elecraft reflector so it is in the 
 database for someone else down the road. This is definitely a strange 
 problem with this radio. I think we are getting closer to the solution.

 Mike
 WE0H



 Don Wilhelm wrote:
  
 Mike,

 Do you have the 'scope vertical amp set to DC?  This is logic level 
 switching and the DC levels are significant, not the peak to peak 
 variation.  Yes, the levels must be above or below the switching 
 thresholds.
 On the /ENC RD line, compare it to the levels at FP U3 pins 6 and/or 
 16 - it should be similar.
 To really tell the whole story, one would have to use 3 probes on 
 the 'scope - trigger on the /ENC RD signal going low and observe the 
 state of the ENC A and ENC B signals at that time.

 Elecraft does repairs, but only on complete kits.  If this is the 
 route you need to go, contact sa...@elecraft.com for further 
 information and obtain an RSA number with instructions for packing 
 and where to send it.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike-WE0H wrote:

 Hi Don,

 OK, on that line which is pin 14 on U3, there is only a couple mv 
 but no pulses. The state of that line never changes. The other 
 strange thing is the ENC-A data level only being 2v p-p verses 
 ENC-B which is a full 5v p-p signal. Shouldn't both ENC data lines 
 be a full 5v p-p TTL signal?

 Worst case, does Elecraft take in repairs direct? I could send in 
 both display boards if that is the case. I sure wish I had test 
 boards to swap in, to verify which board is causing the issues.

 I received the final amp rebuilding components the other day but I 
 will wait to install them until after this dead VFO issue is repaired.

 Mike
 WE0H



 Don Wilhelm wrote:
  
  
 Mike,

 Other than the wiring paths for ENC A and ENC B signals through 
 the connectors and to CB U6 pins 8 and 16,
 there is nothing else for these two signals.  However, for the 
 encoder to be read, the /ENC RD signal must be at a low level and 
 that signal is generated from FP U3 pin 14.  Look for low going 
 pulses with your scope.  If they are not present, FP U3 may be at 
 fault.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:
   
 Hi Don,

 Ref K2 #6698:

 I tried a new encoder but it did nothing different than the 
 original encoder. Tonight I see that ENC-A is only 2v p-p while 
 ENC-B is 5v p-p. This is measured right on the encoder terminals 
 and on the U6 MCU chip. I don't see any resistor network pull ups 
 on these lines. Do you think the MCU could have gotten hurt with 
 the spike on the 14v VCC line that shorted the one final and that 
 VCC filter cap? I see data on both ENC lines when I spin the 
 encoder. The Encoder VCC is a solid 5.0vdc. All other functions 
 work on this radio except anything where I need to turn the 
 encoder to access something in a menu or change anything. The 
 radio receives fine on whatever the display freq is and transmits 
 fine on the same freq on all bands. I just can't change any VFO 
 digit other than the far right digit, or if I spin the encoder 
 shaft left  right, it will slowly increase the displayed freq 
 but not go down.

 Mike
 WE0H

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 trouble shooting

2009-11-03 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

Ref K2 #6698:

I tried a new encoder but it did nothing different than the original 
encoder. Tonight I see that ENC-A is only 2v p-p while ENC-B is 5v p-p. 
This is measured right on the encoder terminals and on the U6 MCU chip. 
I don't see any resistor network pull ups on these lines. Do you think 
the MCU could have gotten hurt with the spike on the 14v VCC line that 
shorted the one final and that VCC filter cap? I see data on both ENC 
lines when I spin the encoder. The Encoder VCC is a solid 5.0vdc. All 
other functions work on this radio except anything where I need to turn 
the encoder to access something in a menu or change anything. The radio 
receives fine on whatever the display freq is and transmits fine on the 
same freq on all bands. I just can't change any VFO digit other than the 
far right digit, or if I spin the encoder shaft left  right, it will 
slowly increase the displayed freq but not go down.

Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Rev B PCB - Does it contain the side-tone mod?

2009-06-29 Thread Mike-WE0H
I emailed you scans of the board direct.

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698




dw wrote:
 Hey Gang,
 I read online yesterday that it may be that the K2 control PCB Rev-B
 might have incorporated the side-tone audio filter somewhere in advance
 of the LM380N chip, to produce a waveform closer to sine-wave.

 Does anyone know if this is true?

 Is there anyway of getting to look at a silk-screen pic for this board?

 Thanks
 Duane
 N1BBR
   


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Field Day fun

2009-06-28 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Wayne,

Sounds like a super fun time!!! I sure wish my son or XYL would take 
some interest in the radio. For sure head out next year with the kids 
and have a blast.

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698



Wayne B wrote:
 I snuck in about an hour of FD operation late tonight, setting up camp  
 in the back yard. The KX1 is perfect for this type of ad-hoc  
 installation -- just toss a wire in a tree and plug in the attached  
 keyer paddle. Signals were quite good, and I worked about 20 stations  
 using 2 W (internal lithium AA battery pack). EU was pounding in on  
 top of the FD activity. And on 30 m, FO and ZL were coming in. 30 m is  
 a great band during FD for those who want to escape from it, at least  
 briefly.

 My daughter (age 10) came out in her PJ's to investigate. She was  
 quite exited by all the signals and the red and white glow from the  
 KX1's LED display and logbook lamp. My wife suggested that next year I  
 the kids camping for FD and keep the tradition going

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] 500 kHz Transceive Operation With the K3

2009-06-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
Excellent news Wayne. I will forward this to our 600 meter email reflector.

Is there any way possible that you can do a similar mod for the K2 to 
make it transmit on 600 meters? Our new band that we should be granted 
will be 495kc-510kc. Of course that is a Part 5 Experimental band thus 
far. The ARRL will be working with the FCC down the road to see if they 
can turn this into a Amateur Radio Band.

Many thanks,

-- 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16 on 600m
WD2XGI on 1750m  2200m
K2 #6698



wayne burdick wrote:
 A few countries allow experimental amateur radio operation in the 500 
 kHz band (600 meters). This is a fascinating and historic band that is 
 used for beacons and ground-wave communications. For hams, there are 
 very specific mode and power restrictions, and an experimental license 
 may be required. In the U.S., see http://www.500kc.com/ and 
 http://www.arrl.org for the latest news.

 The K3 can be used for both receive and transmit on this band as 
 explained below.


 500 kHz Receive-Only Operation
 --

 The K3 can receive signals in the 500-kHz band if both the KXV3 and 
 KBPF3 modules are installed.

 The KXV3 (RF I/O module) is needed because it provides an RX ANT IN 
 jack. This jack bypasses the high-pass filter in the normal receive 
 antenna path. At 500 kHz, the high-pass filter--which protects the T/R 
 PIN diodes--will attenuate signals by about 20 dB. There is no such 
 attenuation at 500 kHz when using the RX ANT IN jack, and sensitivity 
 is excellent. We measured an MDS of -133 dBm with preamp OFF and a DSP 
 filter bandwidth of 50 Hz.

 The KBPF3 (general-coverage module) is needed because the normal 
 160-meter band-pass filter covers only about 1.7 to 2.1 MHz. The KBPF3 
 includes a low-pass filter that passes signals down to 500 kHz with 
 very little attenuation.

 A low-noise receiving antenna is recommended for use at 500 kHz.

 Diversity receive should be very useful at 500 kHz. To do this, you'll 
 need a sub receiver (KRX3) that is equipped with its own KBPF3 module. 
 You'll also need a separate receive antenna for the sub, oriented 
 differently from the receive antenna used with the main receiver.


 500-kHz Transmit/Receive Operation
 --

 The K3 cannot be used to directly transmit on 500 kHz at high power. 
 The low-pass filter cutoff frequency is well above that needed for 
 attenuation of harmonics on this band, and other components in the 
 transmit path are optimized for 1.8 MHz and higher.

 However, the K3 can put out a clean 500 kHz signal of about 0.5 
 milliwatts at the XVTR OUT jack (on the KXV3). This can be fed to an 
 external amplifier (this is left as an exercise for the reader). 
 Transmit power is restricted on this band, and is usually expressed as 
 ERP (Effective Radiated Power). This means you can use high power to 
 make up for the use of an electrically short antenna. Since 1/4 
 wavelength at 500 kHz is about 468 feet, not many hams will be using a 
 full-length vertical or dipole.

 As with receive, transmit at 500 kHz requires the KXV3 and KBPF3 
 modules. In this case, though, you'll need to use the XVTR IN and XVTR 
 OUT jacks, with XVTR IN going to the receive antenna, and XVTR OUT 
 going to your 500 kHz amplifier and a transmit antenna. If the same 
 antenna is used for both transmit and receive, an external T/R switch 
 will also be needed, controlled by the K3's KEY OUT signal. If separate 
 transmit/receive antennas are used, it may be necessary to provide a 
 PIN-diode switch to open or short the receive antenna during transmit. 
 The XVTR IN jack is normally used with a transverter, so it doesn't 
 have such protection built in.

 IMPORTANT: In order to transmit at 500 kHz via the XVTR OUT jack, you 
 must set CONFIG:KXV3 to TEST. This routes all signals through XVTR IN 
 and XVTR OUT, which is why the receive antenna must be connected to 
 XVTR IN in this case. (You can't use XVTR OUT for transmit and RX ANT 
 IN for receive due to switching limitations.) Be sure to set KXV3 back 
 to NOR when using normal ham bands.

 If interest in the 500-kHz band is sufficient, we'll change add 160 
 meters as an IF band for use with transverters. This would allow you to 
 set up a 500 kHz transverter band, so it would not be necessary to set 
 KXV3 to TEST.


 Synthesizer Considerations
 --

 Before using 500 kHz, you'll need to make sure your synthesizer is 
 adjusted to cover this band. Tap DISP and use VFO B to locate the 
 PLL1 display. If the voltage is less than 0.9 V when VFO A is set, 
 contact customer support for suggestions on how to adjust it. If you 
 plan to transmit on this band, connect an short (3') antenna to the 
 XVTR OUT jack and listen to your signal with another 500 kHz receiver. 
 Make sure the signal sounds clean.


 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 

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Re: [Elecraft] 500 kHz Transceive Operation With the K3

2009-06-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
See if you can make it go to 495.000kc as that is the bottom end of any 
possible Amateur Band. If it can tune 495.000kc thru 515.000kc, that 
should cover any future Amateur 600m band. There are currently 
Experimental stations using that spectrum and Amateur Bands in other 
countries. The band coverage varies by country but is within that window 
worldwide.

Mike
WE0H


wayne burdick wrote:
 The present limit is 500 kHz. I could probably move it down a little, 
 but not to 400 -- the synth won't go that low.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

 Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 Am I missing something, or is the K3 capable of going below 500 kHz?

 500 kHz is near the top of the 600 meter marine band which extends 
 down
 nearly to 400 kHz (IIRC 426 kHz is a popular frequency).

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Re: [Elecraft] New to the Forum

2009-06-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
Same thing for working under the panel on a plane with the solder iron. 
Your arms are up behind the panel while you lay on your back with your 
head crammed into the rudder pedals. Drip solder and your gonna loose 
facial skin...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



Ron  wrote:
 No solder blobs to get out ;-) 

 I'm sure you're just poking some fun, Tom, but seriously, there's no reason
 to ever have solder fly, drip or drop off of a soldering iron. Excess is
 wiped off. 

 Carpet is usually the least of my worries about loose solder bits. I'm
 thinking of soldering a broken connection in a ship's radar console working
 through the top and directly above a dozen densely-stuffed pc boards, power
 supplies, etc. 

 Just like the surgeon in an operating room, that's one time you never want
 to have to say Oops..

 Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-

 How did you get the solder blobs out of the living room carpet Ron?

 73
 Tom G3OLB

 Ron AC7AC wrote:

 Not wanting to hide out in a corner, I used a 2x3' drafting board, put it on
 my lap in the living room with the soldering station on a TV tray, and built
 my K2 while chatting with the XYL, listening to music, and even watching
 some TV. 


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Re: [Elecraft] 500 kHz Receive Operation With the KX1

2009-06-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi John,

I use that Jackson Harbor receive converter in my 2200m thru 600m 
transverter. It has worked very well for many years. The buffer amp is 
not needed for those bands as there is plenty of received signal using a 
resonant antenna down there. hi hi...Lots of signal...I did have to add 
in back to back 1N4148 diodes on the input of the mixer so it doesn't 
get clobbered if I mess up with the T/R switch. I also use a 7 pole LP 
filter tuned for 520kc in place of the original LP filter.

Info on our 600 meter Experimental Band is at www.500kc.com

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


John H wrote:
 With band conditions being poor so often lately, I've been using my KX1 for 
 receive-only on LF using a newly-built converter kit. Performance has been 
 better than expected given the time of year and the high amount of QRN in 
 this freq range. For $14 I've added a new receive band to any of my 30m QRP 
 rigs and it's kinda fun to tinker and explore what's down in that range. I 
 was unaware of the fact that several stateside stations are operating at 500 
 kHz.

 Kit description: http://www.ae5x.com/blog/

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Re: [Elecraft] Compounds to retain windings in place on toroid cores

2009-06-03 Thread Mike-WE0H
Why not use hot glue on the toroids in the K2? That link shows hot glue 
as a very good wire retaining compound. Does anyone have any data that 
suggests a K2 would not function to the manufacturer's spec's if hot 
glue was used on all the toroids?

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698




Jack S wrote:
 A common question concerning inductors wound on toroid cores is whether
 a retaining compound should be used to fix the windings in place.

 In the case of the cores used in the K2, retaining compounds are not
 necessary and should not be used. However, this question still comes up
 and there are cases where retaining compounds are necessary, or at least
 desirable.

 I've added a page to my web site showing how to make Q-Dope and
 presenting measurements for similar coils retained with real GC Q-Dope,
 my homebrew Q-Dope, beeswax and hot glue.

 http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/coil_coating_compounds.htm

 Jack K8ZOA


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Re: [Elecraft] Saving K2 VFO modes

2009-05-03 Thread Mike-WE0H
You got my vote on open source or finding someone to work on updates on 
occasion...

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698



Mike H wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 This request goes back years, way before the K3.  K2 development has 
 stalled with the introduction of the K3.  I suspect the only way to get it 
 moving again is to open source the firmware.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO



 From: Mike


 |I have the latest 2.04 firmware revision for my K2.  Are there any 
 future
 | firmware revisions planned that will allow different modes to be saved 
 for
 | VFO A and VFO B.  It would be nice to save CW in A and USB in  B.
 |
 | Mike  AC6JA
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Re: [Elecraft] Saving K2 VFO modes

2009-05-03 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Wayne,

Excellent to hear there is a future to the K2's software. Thank you for 
the update on this. C-U- @ Dayton

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698




Wayne  wrote:
 Mike-WE0H wrote:

 You got my vote on open source or finding someone to work on updates 
 on occasion...

 Mike (et al),

 The K2's present MCU is maxxed (no code space left). That's the main 
 reason there's been no further development on it. But it's also a very 
 mature product. Requests for changes or additions are very rare. And 
 just to complicate things, there's no way to upgrade K2 firmware over 
 the serial port, as on the K3. K2 firmware updates at present involve 
 swapping in a new chip.

 There is, however, a newer PIC available that I believe is 
 pin-compatible with the K2's that would double the code space and 
 allow for a boot loader (to make it electronically upgradeable). I'm 
 looking forward to building the code for this part and trying it out 
 sometime.

 Regarding open sourcing the K2 code: It would take far more of my time 
 to prepare for this than to just make any needed changes myself. To 
 pack everything the K2 does into a small amount of code space required 
 that much of it be written in assembler, which is inherently more 
 abstruse than C (etc.). It also required the creation of a 
 proprietary, heavily optimized real-time OS. There are a dozen or so 
 state machines and a unique interrupt structure where every cycle is 
 carefully counted.

 Even though the code is well-documented, I'd want to create 
 theory-of-ops and maintenance documentation before I tried to hand it 
 off to another programmer. This is often necessary for projects where 
 you don't have the luxury of writing everything in an encapsulated, 
 object-oriented language, such as on a PC with virtually unlimited 
 code space.

 Meanwhile, I save all of the suggestions I receive (or see posted) 
 regarding future K2 functionality.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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[Elecraft] Who is going to Dayton?

2009-04-24 Thread Mike-WE0H
I imagine there will be a bunch from this reflector attending 
Hamvention? I will be there Friday before noon.

-- 
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WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Brush or Blow Dust?

2009-04-23 Thread Mike-WE0H
I use a very soft long bristle brush and whisk away any dust on my radio's.

-- 
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WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446



Dan N wrote:
 I'm an old ham who has built a lot of kits over the years. I am really
 excited though to become an Elecraft user having just received my K3 kit. My
 question has to do with instructions to either brush or blow away any dust
 or lint from the front panel area around the encoder shaft.

  

 I have a good old standby fine bristle brush I use for my radio front
 panels. I also have a fairly new can of the Cleaning Duster (Office
 Depot), which states that it is for removing dust and dirt from audio, video
 and other such equipment. It contains Difluoroethane ???

  

 Question is: What would you recommend to use safelyDan,  W4EA
   
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (4/19/09)

2009-04-19 Thread Mike-WE0H
Who was the station that said they were running 5w output? I heard them 
pretty decent.

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WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446



Phil and Christina wrote:
 We had a short SSB net again today (1800Z) on 14.316 MHz.  The
 signal levels were just OK to net control (generally under 59). We had 17
 participants including net control and ran for only 18 minutes.  Discussions
 were again on AGC
 settings, Visalia facts and Dayton anticipation.

 Here is a list of the 17 participants:

 Station   NameQTH Rig S/N

 N1LQ  DaveMA  K3  371
 K4GCJ Gerry   NC  K3  1597
 W2RWA DickNY  K3  2603
 W0NTA DickCO  K3  1208
 W5ION DougTX  K3  2659
 N0TA  JohnCO  K3  994
 K4SO  MarkVA  K3  2861
 WZ0O  BradFL  K3  285
 K8DJC Nelson  OH  K3  560
 W0FM  Terry   MO  K3  474
 KA0NCRArnie   NE  K3  185
 WE0H  MikeMN  K2  6698
 W1USN MikeMA  K2  1964
 W8YMO Harry   OH  K3  166
 AE6IC FredCA  K3  2241
 KC0TDJRon IA  K2  4857
 NS7P  PhilOR  K3  1826

 Thanks to everybody who checked in.  Have a good week.

 73,

 Phil, NS7P

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[Elecraft] [K2] Fun times on 20m SSB tonight

2009-04-19 Thread Mike-WE0H
Had some fun with my K2 running SSB on 20m. Was listening to a guy in 
Florida boasting how life is too short for QRP and telling a guy local 
to me about his beam and SB220. hi hi...So me, like a smart a$%, jump in 
there with the K2 set to 5w. Yep he comes right back to me saying I am 
light but in there decent. He asks what I am running. I cracked up 
laughing and said a Butternut HF6V and a K2 set to 5w output...hi hi...

So the band starts to fold for that path and a guy in Tuscon AZ comes in 
there and says my K2 is sounding great and about S-9. I said hold on a 
bit and came back at him with 1w. Yep, he says the 1w is making it, but 
real light copy near the noise floor. I try 2.5w then 5w and he says 
that helped out a lot. So I let her rip at near 20w and got a almost 
10/9 report out of him!!! I think fading had something to do with the 
different signal levels but it proved QRP would do the trick on SSB. 
Later on I had to get on my '930 as the band was folding. Chatted with a 
bit over 100w on that rig until he faded down to a S-3 and said my 73's 
es thanks OM.

Has anyone used a MC-60 mic with a K2? The first comment I got when I 
went over to the '930 was more punch to the audio. The '930 was setup 
kind of light audio with the ALC barely moving the needle.  I use a 
MC-60 mic on that radio.  The mic preamp was on. I am using a MC-43s 
hand mic on the K2, and it is set to the recommended audio and 
compression levels. Would the MC-60 drive it a bit stronger yet not 
destroy the audio quality? I suspect the K2 might be running super clean 
audio with no compression or processing. Could it benefit from a bit 
more audio drive or processing? I don't know. What do you guys run for 
audio settings on the K2?

-- 
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WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
That carrier on 14.31800mc is nuts loud in Minnesota. I tried to check 
in but only one station heard me and repeated my callsign. Even the DSP 
won't wipe that screaming carrier out.

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446



Phil and Christina wrote:
 Hi gang,

 The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (Sunday, 4/12/09) at 1800Z.
 We will start at 14.316 MHz, and QSY if needed.  The net control is in
 western Oregon, but we will need a good east coast or midwest station to
 relay a few west coast signals that may be too close to net control.  See
 you there.

 73,

 Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Jim,

That makes sense. I was thinking a bit and realized most computer 
motherboards have a 14.318mc oscillator in them. Then as you said the 
color burst freq x4 and that makes a huge mess out of that freq and near 
by. 20m was up  down and the solar conditions are terrible this weekend 
compounding the problem of having only 15w to work with. At least one 
person heard me and repeated my callsign so I hope I got checked in...hi 
hi...

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446



Jim W wrote:

 Mike et al -


 It might be good to check to see if you aren't doing it to yourself.  
 14.318 divided by 4 is 3.579 MHz, the color burst frequency used by 
 millions of consumer devices as a reference frequency, and not just TV 
 sets.  I have heard carriers on or around that frequency with 
 strengths up to and including S9 for literally years.  Harmonics 
 from poorly designed or shielded oscillators in TV sets, computers, 
 clocks, DVD players, VCRs, microwave ovens,  game players, fax 
 machines, printers, telephones, toys, medical devices, and many more 
 items have polluted this frequency for at least 20 years.  Just now I 
 checked and can hear at least  5 separate  sources  in a casual  
 check of the frequency - and those are just the loud ones from a 
 random beam heading.  I am sure there are dozens more underneath the 
 louder ones. .


 The sources are so ubiquitous that it is virtually impossible to 
 escape them no matter where you live.   The signals that you are 
 hearing are probably not the same ones that another ham in the next 
 state is hearing, but there are so many of them that it is unlikely 
 anyone can escape them.

 They are part of the reason for that FCC warning about Operation this 
 device may cause interference to nearby radio ant TV receivers .  
 (I am paraphrasing here) that you see on so many consumer electronics 
 devices.


 One reason your DSP may be having trouble eliminating the carriers is 
 that there are usually several on slightly differing frequencies.  The 
 crystals aren't all that accurate in some devices, and by the time we 
 get to the 4th harmonic, differences of a few tens of Hertz to several 
 hundred Hertz are common.  Most of these oscillators are not in some 
 type of circuit that is phase locked to a master source, as  is the 
 case for some TV broadcasts.  Most of them are free running  in the 
 sense that all they have to be is close enough to perform the task 
 at hand.,


 - Jim, KL7CC



 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 That carrier on 14.31800mc is nuts loud in Minnesota. I tried to 
 check in but only one station heard me and repeated my callsign. Even 
 the DSP won't wipe that screaming carrier out.

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[Elecraft] [K2] Calibration

2009-04-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
Copying this to the reflector in case someone else has seen the same 
issue. This is K2 S/N 6698.

OK here is the run down on all bands:

Band Displayed error

160m  .98  20hz low
75m.99  10hz low
60m.99  10hz low
40m.99  10hz low
30m.00  perfect
20m.00  perfect
17m.02  20hz high
15m.09  90hz high
12m.11  110hz high
10m.11  110hz high

All bands were dialed to a even number and the last two digits are what 
I listed above. Something is not right above 15mc.

Now I know the CAL PLL is done right and verified with my DDS  oven 
oscillator showing the exact calibration as the radio now. Something is 
not right somewhere. Hardware problem? I don't know. At least I have the 
10mc calibration spot on.

Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] [K2] Secret to K2 calibration programming?

2009-04-09 Thread Mike-WE0H
OK, here the deal. My K2 S/N 6698 doesn't have the same freq offset on 
all the bands. How can I program that so it is dead nuts on every band? 
Here's the freq measurement spots and what the radio is showing as a 
center freq using Spectrogram.

Signal freq then radio's displayed freq...
1.9   1.90003
3.9   3.90003
5.5   5.50003
7.2   7.20003
10.1000   10.1004
14.2000   14.2005
18.5000   18.5005
21.2000   21.2000
24.9000   24.9001
28.2000   28.2001


See how it is not the same offset across the bands? Something funny is 
going on here...

Thanks for the help.

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446

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Re: [Elecraft] I need your help...Spammer

2009-04-08 Thread Mike-WE0H
This is similar to a message I got yesterday. It came from some non-US 
email address. It was someone saying they wanted to buy my K2 and to 
tell them how much  where to send the funds.

I just deleted the message.

-- 
Mike
WE0H
K2 #6698
SKCC #5446




Paul Gates wrote:
 Please I need your assistance,I made an emergency trip to England and am 
 having a little problem. Please Assist me with Two thousand dollars 
 ($2,000.00) to enable me conclude my program here. I will pay you back as 
 soon as I return home. Send it via western union money transfer with this 
 info.
 Receiver: Paul Gates
 Location: West Norwood London SE27 9DW United Kingdom.
 Remain blessed,
 Pau.

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: K2 #5723

2009-04-06 Thread Mike-WE0H
Wow that's a killer deal.

-- 
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WE0H
K2 #6698
SKKC #5446



KU4YP wrote:
 Before I put it on the auction site, I'd like this to go to someone on the
 list if they want it. $550.00 shipped to lower 48. Unbuilt 160meter and
 noise blanker option. Contact me off list if interested. 73 mike ku4yp 

  

 bpd...@wildblue.net
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Re: [Elecraft] UK Elecraft net report for Sunday 5th April

2009-04-05 Thread Mike-WE0H
I just ordered the components to build a KR5L CW Tuning Indicator for my 
K2. Waiting on the IC from overseas. Have to layout a board and etch it 
yet. Bought a neat orange super bright LED for the Lock button cap. That 
should look interesting in that color.

Mike
WE0H
K2 6698


Dave G4AON wrote:
 Many of the regular net stations were attending the Blackpool Rally,
 only myself, Brendan (EI6IZ), Richard (G4CGG) and Tim (G4ARI) were
 around today on 3627 KHz.

 Items of interest were the K6XX CW tuning indicator for the K2, the
 Amtor activity evenings recently included in the RSGB news (Tuesday
 evenings, 80m band) and microphone insert choices.

 73 until next week

 Dave, G4AON
 K3/100, Acom 1000, dipole antenna
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[Elecraft] [K2] Aligning CW SSB filters...Crystal heaters running perfect

2009-04-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
OK I found Spectrogram 5.0 runs perfect in Wine within Linux. I aligned 
my CW filters per the N0SS document. All went real easy.

Question though, how to align the SSB filters? What should the filter 
shapes look like? Is there an online document showing me what I should 
be tuning them for? I kind of guessed and tuned so the left skirt just 
went down to the low freq side of the display. I would prefer to see 
what they should look like when tuned properly...hi hi...

BTW, I have three crystal heaters heating the PLL  both BFO crystals to 
40C. So far so good, the radio is dead nuts stable now.

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 For Sale

2009-04-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
That's the long path email getting to the server this morning...The 
short path signal (email) made it a few days ago already.

Mike
WE0H



Roger S wrote:
 I don't know how this got posted again but yesterday I reposted it with the
 price at $350 as it still remains.

 73, Roger, NJ2R

 I have a very nice 4 band Elecraft K-1 for sale. It is an early one, SN 0069
 and is equipped with the 4 band module for 40, 30, 20 and 15 meters,
 internal battery pack, tilt base with both short and long arms as well as
 the original spiral bound assembly manual and a Revision E manual. The
 firmware is 1.09.

 I am asking $375 including shipping to US addresses. Overseas shipping at
 cost. I can accept PayPal though I prefer a USPS money order.

 If interested please respond off list to n...@verizon.net.

 73, Roger, NJ2R
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's fish fry, barbeque, potato salad

2009-04-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
Don't forget eating the Wisconsin cheese...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



Bill Johnson wrote:
 This could be nicely accomplished up here in Fish Creek, WI where there is a
 good supply of white fish, then it could be a great marketing opportunity
 for Elecraft in the mid-West rather than the right and left coasts.  WE
 could eat healthy, and drink some beer as well.


 73,

 Bill
 K9YEQ
 K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods
 ATS-3B
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Diry RF Gain pot?

2009-04-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
Give it a shot of Color TV Tuner spray or LPS-1 spray. It should make it 
good as new, no promises though...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



Steve K wrote:
 The adjustment action on my RF gain control is erratic. The gain level
 always settles down almost immediately once I quit rotating the knob, but
 still too erratic for easy adjustment.

  

 Is this a case of spraying some cleaner on the pot or replacing it?

  

 73,


 Steve N6VL

 K2 #2289
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX below 500 kc/s

2009-04-01 Thread Mike-WE0H
Might be a good idea for down the road to include 2200 meters 
(135.7-137.8kc), 1750 meters (160-190kc)  600 meters (495-515kc) as 
some countries already have those bands as Amateur bands. There are 
groups in the US working to get all three bands as Amateur Bands. The 
ARRL is one of them.

Frequency stability is extremely important for operating on those LF  
MF bands.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI on 2200  1750m
WD2XSH/16 on 600m
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[Elecraft] [K2] Crystal heater for better stability???

2009-03-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Has anyone added a crystal heater to their K2? If I would add a heater 
to my K2, what oscillator would be the best one to do it to or should I 
heat both the 4mc  the 12.xx mc crystals? The radio is decent as is but 
I am used to zero drift when I work the Part 5 Experimental bands with 
my other radio's. I want to make my K2 very stable as it will be used on 
those bands.

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Crystal heater for better stability???

2009-03-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Thank you all who replied direct with many different ideas  
options...hi hi...I have found a solution.

73,
Mike
WE0H



Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Has anyone added a crystal heater to their K2? If I would add a heater 
 to my K2, what oscillator would be the best one to do it to or should I 
 heat both the 4mc  the 12.xx mc crystals? The radio is decent as is but 
 I am used to zero drift when I work the Part 5 Experimental bands with 
 my other radio's. I want to make my K2 very stable as it will be used on 
 those bands.

 Many thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
 K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 standard mic input = kenwood circuit - - what mic doyou recommend?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike-WE0H
I use that same mic with my K2. It sounds excellent.

Mike
WE0H



Mike H wrote:
 Thank goodness, an Elecraft related posting.  Unless you plan to let the 
 dog eat this mic.

 I use a Kenwood MC-43S hand mic with both K2 and K3.  Inexpensive and 
 always complimentary audio reports.  I use those computer motherboard 
 jumpers to link across the header in the K2.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO


 From: dw


 |I understand that the K2s default mic input is designed for a Kenwood
 | type mic.
 |
 | If ever some day I do decide to *speak* into my K2 ( not that I will
 | have anything coherant to say) what type of mic is recommended?
 |
 | Thanks
 | Duane
 | N1BBR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 22nd 23rd, 2009

2009-03-23 Thread Mike-WE0H
What operating system are you running on that computer? hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
Linux user of course...hi hi


Kevin R wrote:
 Good Morning,
Sorry about the late report but just as I was going to send it out last 
 night it went away.  I do not know how or why, it simply disappeared in front 
 of my eyes; strange.  snipped...
   
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[Elecraft] [K2] Birdie's in K2 VFO???

2009-03-19 Thread Mike-WE0H
Anyone else notice a birdie when the display is tuned upward from xx.11 
to xx.12mc??? It is the transition from any megahertz dot 11 to dot 12. 
It throws out a loud birdie every time at any MC interval. Does that 
make sense? I am on 30 meters right now. The display shows 10114.11 then 
I tune to 10114.12 and I hear the birdie on that transition. It also 
happens at 10115.11 to 10115.12 and so forth on up the bands.

Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Birdie's in K2 VFO???..Click sound...

2009-03-19 Thread Mike-WE0H
Yes a click is a better description. It is very consistent. The 
soldering is excellent on this radio. Flowed through both sides on 
everything. I used good equipment and a grounded blue mat bench top. No 
static issues. I will do that CAL PLL again. The VFO cal is real close 
to WWV on 10mc and also matches my 3mc oven oscillator and DDS VFO also.

I'll do that  report back...hi hi...

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 If you can describe that more as a click rather than a birdie, I 
 can offer a solution - run CAL PLL again - be certain the 4 MHz 
 oscillator is set first and the bottom cover is in place.  You also 
 may want to re-flow the soldering on RF Board U4 before doing the CAL 
 PLL.  With the repetitive frequencies involved, it sounds like more of 
 a PLL problem than a birdie.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Anyone else notice a birdie when the display is tuned upward from 
 xx.11 to xx.12mc??? It is the transition from any megahertz dot 11 to 
 dot 12. It throws out a loud birdie every time at any MC interval. 
 Does that make sense? I am on 30 meters right now. The display shows 
 10114.11 then I tune to 10114.12 and I hear the birdie on that 
 transition. It also happens at 10115.11 to 10115.12 and so forth on 
 up the bands.

 Mike
 WE0H
 K2 6698
  

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[Elecraft] [K2] C6 4.7pf cap K60XV option?

2009-03-16 Thread Mike-WE0H
Was I supposed to remove the C6 (4.7p) cap when I added the K60XV 
option? I have it soldered on the bottom of the RF board from pin1 to 
pin 3 of J15.

Thanks,
Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] C6 4.7pf cap K60XV option?

2009-03-16 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

OK I will do that. Couldn't figure out one way or the other so I put the 
cap on the bottom side of the header after I installed the header. Guess 
it was shunting some signal from where it was supposed to be going...hi 
hi...

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H



Don W wrote:
 Mike,

 Yes, remove C6 from the RF board and after that, re-peak the 40 and 60 
 meter bandpass filter.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Was I supposed to remove the C6 (4.7p) cap when I added the K60XV 
 option? I have it soldered on the bottom of the RF board from pin1 to 
 pin 3 of J15.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
 K2 6698 
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[Elecraft] Fast shipping again!!!

2009-03-14 Thread Mike-WE0H
I ordered a KAT2 on Wednesday night, it shipped Thursday US mail First 
Class, the box arrives today on Saturday!!! Crazy fast shipping and dirt 
cheep too. Thank you guys so much. If all companies could only be like 
Elecraft...Amazing!!!

Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] Fast shipping again!!!

2009-03-14 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hmmm, that doesn't sound nice. I believe the USPS guarantees a 2-3 day 
shipping time on their Priority. I would ask for your money back. I have 
always gotten my Priority shipments in 2 or 3 days max with USPS. Same 
for shipping from here, always arrives at it's destination in 2-3 days.

Mike
WE0H



Merv S wrote:
 Sold a FT-1000 to buy a new K3,  shipped it priority mail to FL,
 took 8 weeks to finally arrive,  real service for sure,  almost any
 package priority mail to here takes over 5 days,  you can track
 and it arrives in Honolulu in one day from the mainland and sits
 there for 4 to 5 days before they look to see who its for. 
 So my problem is more local so to speak, glad to hear someone
 is getting what I pay for.
 Merv KH7C

 Also this week I ordered parts for a K2.   3 days coast to coast, order 
 to delivery. 

 Elecraft is to be commended for their part but so should the US Postal 
 Service. For
 normal service 1st class and Priority Mail beat the pants off the other 
 carriers.

 73,
 Bob
 K2TK 
 

 Mike-WE0H wrote:

   
 I ordered a KAT2 on Wednesday night, it shipped Thursday US mail First 
 Class, the box arrives today on Saturday!!! Crazy fast shipping and dirt 
 cheep too. Thank you guys so much. If all companies could only be like 
 Elecraft...Amazing!!!

 Mike
 WE0H
 K2 6698

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Re: [Elecraft] Building a KX1

2009-03-13 Thread Mike-WE0H
What was your question now that you stirred up the interest...hi hi...
I seen your blank post yesterday but we were seeing strange posts from 
somewhere else. Oh well...

Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698



Ron B wrote:
 I posted a question yesterday but it did not seem to go through - the
 message was blank in the digest list.

  

 I believe I have found my answer but wanted to post again just as a test to
 see if I can actually post when/if I need help.

  

 Thanks and 73,

 Ron, AC2C

 Ellicott City, Maryland
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[Elecraft] [K2] Current setting?

2009-03-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
What should I have my Current setting set at? I see it occasionally 
showing high current when running SSB on the bench into a 50 ohm load. 
Is this some sort of current limiting setting for the power amp? It was 
set at 2.x amps and I set it to ~3.5a tonight and noticed the 160m power 
shot up to 10w on the Bird meter after that. Before moving the current 
setting up, it would show maybe 2-5w output just talking into the mic. I 
run the compression at 2:1 and the other setting at 3. I think I am 
saying that right but I am a newbie to this rig so...hi hi...
Also using a Kenwood MC-43S mic. The audio sounds clean listening on a 
TS-440 on all bands 160 thru 10m, skipping 30m of course...

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698
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[Elecraft] [K2] KAT2 mods or not?

2009-03-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
OK just ordered the KAT2 auto tuner for my K2. Is there anything special 
that I should do with it when I build it or just build it stock?

Thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Current setting?

2009-03-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

OK on the KAT2.

On the current question, I am seeing 14.36v supplied to the radio on 
receive and 14.21v on transmit. A little bit of a drop with the long 
wires to my assembly bench where I have been testing the K2 at. Power 
output using the TUNE button and running through a Bird 43 meter into a 
50 ohm Decibel load, varies from 10w at 1.8mc, 15-18w from 3.5mc thru 
24.9mc and back down to 10w at 28.5mc. The power setting is at 10.0w on 
the radio. I did not see any high current indicator when I tested it a 
few minutes ago. I seen the high current message last night with the 
current setting as it was factory default. It is now set to 3.5a. I 
noticed the radio will put out 20w on any band from 75m thru 17m but as 
you said keep it at 10w. Voltage measurements are with a Fluke 77 DVM 
measured at the radio's power cable.

Mike
WE0H



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 What is the voltage of your power supply?  If it is 13.8 volts or 
 higher, there should be no HI CUR messages during normal operation 
 with CAL CUR set to 3.50.  If the PS voltage is low (or you have a bad 
 power cable connection), you may see those messages at higher power 
 settings.  The K2 maintains power level, and for any given power, it 
 will take more current if the voltage is low.

 If you power supply voltage is good, but your power output is low, Hi 
 Curr warnings are an indication of a problem.  I assume the power 
 outputs that you site are average readings on SSB - if so, that is 
 probably OK.  What do you get when you use TUNE is the real question.

 You may leave the CAL CUR setting at 3.50 Amps or even higher.  You 
 might see some HI CURR messages on particular bands if you run the 
 power control all the way to max - but don't do that, just set the 
 power to 12 watts or less and you should not see any.

 Yes, the CAL CUR setting will limit the power output if that current 
 is exceeded.  That is really a helpful indicator if one is running 
 from a battery - the message tells you that the battery voltage has 
 dropped and a re-charge may be necessary.  If used in that manner, you 
 can set the CAL CUR to any point you desire, but with an AC power 
 source, you can run CAL CUR up to 4 amps with no problem.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 What should I have my Current setting set at? I see it occasionally 
 showing high current when running SSB on the bench into a 50 ohm 
 load. Is this some sort of current limiting setting for the power 
 amp? It was set at 2.x amps and I set it to ~3.5a tonight and noticed 
 the 160m power shot up to 10w on the Bird meter after that. Before 
 moving the current setting up, it would show maybe 2-5w output just 
 talking into the mic. I run the compression at 2:1 and the other 
 setting at 3. I think I am saying that right but I am a newbie to 
 this rig so...hi hi...
 Also using a Kenwood MC-43S mic. The audio sounds clean listening on 
 a TS-440 on all bands 160 thru 10m, skipping 30m of course...

 Thanks much,
 Mike
 WE0H
 K2 S/N 6698
  

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Re: [Elecraft] accurate time

2009-03-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
Linux adjusts the computer's clock automatically for the user. Nothing 
to click or figure out...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] [K2] 160m sensitivity below 1.9mc?

2009-03-12 Thread Mike-WE0H
Is it normal for the sensitivity to drop off starting at 1.9mc on 160 
meters? The power output is 10w across the whole band but tuning from 
2mc on down, there is a real apparent sensitivity degrade starting at 
1.9mc. I have the VCO tuned so it stops receiving at 1.36mc. It tunes 
well above 2.0mc on the other end.

Is there a mod or tweak I can do to keep the hot receive sensitivity 
down to 1.80mc? The BC band is not important but I want all of 160 
meters performing the same.

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Mike-WE0H
Here's my perspective from not owning any Elecraft radio until ~ a month ago. I 
have read about the K2 for many years and always wanted one. I heard them on 
the air and heard others comments about owning one. I have never owned a new 
rig, only bought repair-ables and repaired them to use. So along comes the 
opportunity to buy a Elecraft radio at the Orlando hamfest. The XYL asks me 
which one do I want to order. I was thinking, get a decent radio, yet keep the 
costs reasonable. My decision was to order the K2 with some nice features. I 
couldn't justify ordering the K3, just because it costs so much more than the 
K2. That's my only reason, economics. I'm retired and the XYL still works so I 
hate to spend the funds she earns.

My next Elecraft radio will be a loaded K1 for portable operating. The K2 is 
too nice to bring outside in my opinion.

Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698



John said:
Hi

I looked through the Archives and FAQ's and see the K3 is a All in one
rig with top of line features.

The K2 was the former one.  With a little less features and not all in
one processor.  It uses pic 18C452 instead of 18F452 etc so you can't
flash upgrade it as easily.

(I program Linux systems and PIC systems.)

But I can make a qrp rig for $770 K2 kit instead of $1400 K3 semi-kit
and I am an electrical engineer.

Is there any good reason to go to the K3?

VE3GYV John

P.S. K1's sell for more  assembled on Ebay than Kits  So the
issues of losing money on the rig appear to not be true.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Mike-WE0H
My opinion, keep the K3  the K2. You may later on regret selling 
anything and then the money might not be there to build another one. 
Just put it on the shelf for now.

Other options are the AN762 amp that FAR circuits sells a board for and 
eBay has 2SC2879 transistor's for it and they are dirt cheep. That'd be 
well over 100w output just idling. Communications Concepts sells the 
complete kit for it with the more expensive MRF transistors if you don't 
have a stash of components for it already.

Mike
WE0H



Randy M wrote:
 Well, this is interesting!  I'm agonizing over this very issue.  I have 
 K2 #337, built in late 1999, that has served me extremely well.  I have 
 always watched this reflector, so I was one of the first non-field test 
 people to notice Wayne's announcement of the K3.  Then I read every word 
 about it, including the manuals, and saved my pennies (and quarters and 
 dollars!) until I was able to order one last year, taking delivery of 
 K3/10 #2006 in late October.  I have been delighted with it, both 
 performance wise and operationally.  I've downloaded all the beta 
 firmware releases and never had any issue with them that wasn't taken 
 care of within about 24 hours of the beta release.

 I operated SSCW and then ARRL DX CW with the K3 and that's when I began 
 to have some doubts about whether the K3 is for me or not.  Running QRP 
 during these contests with simple wire antennas, I found that I couldn't 
 usually be heard through all the QRM by anybody who wasn't S8-9 at my 
 QTH.  That means that the outstanding features of the K3 receiver 
 weren't doing me much good in those circumstances.  In a more normal 
 situation of working a weak station with little or no QRM, I believe the 
 K2 does just as well as the K3 for me.  So I've about decided that the 
 K3 is just not a cost effective solution for my style of operating.  I 
 really love it, but I just can't justify keeping both it and my 
 venerable K2!   I'm seriously bonded with the K2,  so I'm on the verge 
 of offering my K3 for sale.  But it hurts to even consider it :-(

 73,
 Randy, KS4L
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Re: [Elecraft] Price of a K2

2009-03-10 Thread Mike-WE0H
Exactly my thoughts,  the #1 reason I built mine myself. I don't 
remember what all options some have had, but I did see at least one that 
was with the options I have and it would be a easy $1000.00 kit yet they 
sold the radio for 6-7 hundred. Might be the economy and a guy needing 
quick cash? Learned my lesson on selling off radio's many years ago, 
never gonna sell my rigs!!! hi hi...

Support? Yea there surely isn't a shortage of support for these radio's. 
I had a question about the 8v regulator having a bit low voltage out and 
that surely got a fast response on the fix and a whole lotta response at 
that!!! hi hi...Awesome group, you guys have here.

Mike
WE0H



Julian, G4ILO wrote:

Perhaps people are wary of buying something that was built by somebody of
unknown expertise? I've bought the odd bit of home-built gear (and
commercial rigs that had been modified by previous owners) and have seen
some absolute stinkers.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack   http://www.g4ilo.com/blog.html G4ILO's
Bloghttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 



Dave wrote:

Mike and All,

You may be right--I haven't watched all that closely--but what I think I 
have noticed is that ones selling for the price range you mention 
typically are light on add-ons. Typically I see the lower priced ones 
without internal ATU's or DSP.  Also, lower priced ones tend to be 
earlier versions.  There were substantial changes to the ones that start 
with serial numbers above 3000.  I can tell you though, that early 
versions work very well, and if they have been updated, you can't tell 
much, if any, difference.  I have #72, and another one in the 4000 
range.  Both sound pretty similar to me.  The great think about a K2 is 
the fabulous support you can get for it right here on this reflector, 
not to mention Elecraft's superb support team. If you have a problem 
with a K2, 99 times out of 100 the solution is only a few keyclicks away.

Dave W7AQK



WE0H wrote:


I have seen them with various options going for $600.00 thru $700 
something. That seems surprisingly low to me when you take a kit  add 
in the options and come up right around a grand then the guys are 
selling them in the 6-7 hundred range, built... Silly.

Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: best way to learn CW

2009-03-09 Thread Mike-WE0H
Kind'a short video...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



DOUG wrote:
 You will enjoy this (maybe)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Pq6cosm2A

 de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Price of a K2

2009-03-09 Thread Mike-WE0H
I have seen them with various options going for $600.00 thru $700 
something. That seems surprisingly low to me when you take a kit  add 
in the options and come up right around a grand then the guys are 
selling them in the 6-7 hundred range, built... Silly.

Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698


Paul G wrote:
 Anyone have a ball park figure what used K2's are going for these days?

 Paul Gates, KD3JF
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Re: [Elecraft] Whaddayaknow... passed the Extra

2009-03-09 Thread Mike-WE0H
I'll throw this comment out before I get to reading all the replies...my 
method 20+ years ago was to get on the air every day no matter what. 
Practice makes perfect in anything you do. CW is no different. Get on 
the air no matter how slow or fast or crappy or perfect you send or 
receive. Someone out there will respond back to your CQ eventually and 
there is no looking back from that day forward. You'll miss letters, 
words, ask for repeats, miss tons of info but don't give up or get 
pissed off. Keep at it and you will see by the end of the summer that 
you will be hauling bootie with smokin fast CW. I went from 0 to 31 WPM 
in the first year that I was licensed (1987). I was on the air 
practically every day  night.

You can do it and this group and others can help...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



James S wrote:
 Yes I'm only 30.  I got my first ticket last November.  I still have a lot
 to learn; CW being one of them.  Thankfully, there are a lot of helpful
 people out there that have been more than willing to point me in the right
 direction.  I'm truly grateful.

  

 73,

 James KC2UEE
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[Elecraft] [K2] Power output pot tight on CCW end

2009-03-08 Thread Mike-WE0H
My power output pot on my K2 is tight turning the last 1/4th until full 
CCW. Is this the way it is supposed to be or? It was that way before I 
installed it. It works but is tight turning at the low 1w range.

Thanks,
Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] Whaddayaknow... passed the Extra

2009-03-08 Thread Mike-WE0H
Good deal James!!! Always worth getting the Extra class for a bit more 
space on HF.

Mike
WE0H


James S wrote:
 Hello fellow Elecrafters,

  

 Sorry for the OT post here guys, but I just wanted to share with you that I
 passed my element 4 exam today with flying colors.  Hope to have my license
 info updated on the ULS within a few days!

  

 73,

 James KC2UEE (soon to be K3JPS)
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 : C22 question

2009-03-08 Thread Mike-WE0H
Use the 2.7pf. It says in the parts list this is a substitute value.
I seen that also when I got to that point and said to myself, where the 
%...@! is the 3.3p cap???

Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698



Fred  N9TA wrote:
 I can't find C22, which is supposed to be a 3.3pf. However, I have a 2.7 
 pf cap leftover.
 I notice that in the parts list for C22 it reads: 2R7, 3, 3.3, 3R3. I 
 suspect I am supposed
 to substitute the 2.7pf for the 3.3pfis this correct???

   Fred  N9TAK2# 6705 under construction
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[Elecraft] [K2] Long term reliability with leaving radio on 24/7???

2009-03-08 Thread Mike-WE0H
Has anyone left their K2 on 24/7 for freq stability reason's? Or ran 
QRSS and can say how well it stayed put? Previously when I was running 
1750 meters, I used to leave my TS-440 on 24/7 for a couple years. It 
still worked after all that time running...hi hi...But what I would like 
to know is, would the K2 be expected to run say for a year straight 
without any issues? Of course no antenna would be connected when it 
shouldn't be...I have had it running for about 9 hours today and did the 
calibration a couple hours ago and the radio is dead nuts stable within 
1hz of what the reference oscillators here are which are calibrated to 
WWV. I haven't had the chance yet to let it come down to room temp and 
be turned back on and see where the calibration would be at. Anyone with 
experience in this stuff?

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
K2 S/N 6698
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Control board U4 8v regulator issueSolved problem

2009-03-07 Thread Mike-WE0H
Oh mine was working excellent last night for it's first time listening 
on the air 40m. Heard South Africa and some South Pacific islands on 40m 
after I peaked the 40m bandpass filter. The only issue I had was that 
regulator  that was a piece of cake to troubleshoot  repair. So far I 
am totally impressed with this kit  it's design, well worth the money 
spent.

Mike
WE0H



David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
 Mike-WE0H wrote:

   
 shame the regulator manufacturer sells a 8v regulator that is barely at 
 the minimum end of it's spec's, but it is good that the K2 can be 
 modified to work with the lower voltage regulator if need be.
 

 It's a shame that the K2 doesn't work when its components are all in 
 tolerance!  There should be no need for a fix.

   
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 : Is this ok for AGC threshold??

2009-03-07 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Fred,

I ran into that regulator issue a couple nights ago. I changed the 8v 
regulator with a used one I had here which brought the 8v line up to 
8.30v. The original 8v regulator put out 7.61v. My AGC pot is a half 
scale right now with the 3.80v level as the manual states. The resistor  
mod takes care of the issue if you don't have a spare regulator laying 
around.

Mike
WE0H



Fred N9TA wrote:
   Thanks for the quick reply Don !!!

 I guess I will continue then.I'd decided to stop further 
 construction until I had an answer. Just in case it was something to be 
 concerned about.

 Goshseems like these components just get smaller and smallerHI HI

73...de...Fred  N9TA
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 missing part

2009-03-07 Thread Mike-WE0H
Mine was the same as the others also.

Mike
WE0H



Brett Gazdzinski wrote:
 I think I was scratching my head over the same choke, the manual and updates 
 said it could be a different color, but it was the same as other chokes, and 
 I was not actually short a choke.

 Brett
 N2DTS
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[Elecraft] [K2] S/N 6698 is alive now!!!

2009-03-07 Thread Mike-WE0H
Just got done testing the TX  RX on K2 S/N 6698 and all is working per 
the manual. Now onto the options...

Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Mike-WE0H
He had a wink after his 'QRP RULES!' statement. Winks, as in just 
joking, giving you guys some crap, ha ha ha , hi hi hi...that sort of 
thing. I seriously doubt anyone here is bashing or calling anyone out, 
it's all fun, to each their own, don't push this or that upon someone 
unless they ask, you know, be happy. Text emails don't show emotion, and 
feelings don't get understood because of this. Tongue in cheek, smile, 
it's Friday!!! Yea!!!  hi hi...

73,
Mike
WE0H
Building my K2...almost done...



Bill W4ZV wrote:
 Gary D Krause wrote:
   
 Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and 
 realize that QRP RULES! ;-)

 

 But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...

 ...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
 ...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
 ...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
 ...in emergency communications when a life depends on it.

 Sure QRP works well on the HF bands when conditions are good...it's a heck
 of a lot of fun to work across the world with a 2 Watt rig in an Altoids tin
 and a piece of wire...but please don't make blanket statements about QRP
 ruling for many activities...it simply doesn't.  

 If QRPers want a REAL challenge, try working DXCC on 160m with 5 Watts.

 73,  Bill  W4ZV (who loves both)
   
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[Elecraft] [K2] Progress on my K2 assembly S/N 6698

2009-03-06 Thread Mike-WE0H
Just completed the 40m alignment and all is working perfect. Now onto 
stuffing the rest of the RF board components...Hope to have the radio 
complete this weekend.

I have to assemble the DSP kit yet, then install all the options after 
alignment of the other band stages. I have the NB, SSB  60m/XVTR kits 
built already, plus all the headers installed. Took a bit to figure out 
I needed to jumper this  that pin on the headers since I installed the 
headers instead of the W jumpers as I built the RF board up through the 
40m stage.

This is the 10w version. I picked up the AN762 linear amp board from FAR 
at the Orlando hamfest to build an external amp for those occasions 
where I want to run more than 10w.

Building a 14mc IF LF/MF transverter once the radio is complete. This 
radio will see lots of use on 600, 1750  2200 meters.

I have to say this is one super easy radio to build. The enamel wire is 
a breeze to strip/tin with some rosin and a 80w iron. Piece of cake 
winding the toroids with those procedures and pictures in the manual.

More info later...back to the bench I go!!! This is tons of fun.

Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] [K2] Control board U4 8v regulator issue

2009-03-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
Has anyone else had a 8v regulator (U4) on their control board show a 
lower voltage than it should? Mine shows 7.61v with the board in the 
radio or on the bench with a 14v supply connected to the input of that 
regulator. All components and soldering look correct. The 5v regulator 
is at 5.00v. All functions in the test procedure work as they should 
except the AGC voltage couldn't be set to 3.80v because of the 8v buss 
being at 7.61v, the AGC voltage changed as it should but was lower than 
the 3.80v suggested for setting R1 to.

Nothing runs hot or smells hot. What do you guys think? Bad regulator or???

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Control board U4 8v regulator issueSolved problem

2009-03-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
I replaced the regulator and now have 8.30v output from U4. The original 
regulator only put out 7.61v. Thankfully I had a used regulator on a 
parts board from a security system!!! hi hi...

Mike


Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Has anyone else had a 8v regulator (U4) on their control board show a 
 lower voltage than it should? Mine shows 7.61v with the board in the 
 radio or on the bench with a 14v supply connected to the input of that 
 regulator. All components and soldering look correct. The 5v regulator 
 is at 5.00v. All functions in the test procedure work as they should 
 except the AGC voltage couldn't be set to 3.80v because of the 8v buss 
 being at 7.61v, the AGC voltage changed as it should but was lower than 
 the 3.80v suggested for setting R1 to.

 Nothing runs hot or smells hot. What do you guys think? Bad regulator or???

 Many thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Control board U4 8v regulator issueSolved problem

2009-03-04 Thread Mike-WE0H
I want to thank all you people for the tips, mods  suggestions that you 
emailed direct. Much appreciated. The radio is testing 100% now with the 
new used regulator which puts out 8.30v. I saved the original 7.61v 
regulator along with the mod procedure to make it work if I need to. A 
shame the regulator manufacturer sells a 8v regulator that is barely at 
the minimum end of it's spec's, but it is good that the K2 can be 
modified to work with the lower voltage regulator if need be.

Now onto stuffing the other components into the RF board...

Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] [K2] Initial power up testing

2009-03-03 Thread Mike-WE0H
Got my K2 to the very first power on test stage. Talk about scare the 
crap out of me when I turned it on and wasn't ready to hear all those 
relays clicking for the first time. Just about said oh crap!!! hi 
hi...All is fine though. Whew...Just the normal relay clicking on 
sequence when the power button is pressed on.

Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2]...Hot glue toroids to PCB??? No is the answer...

2009-03-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
Wow, quite a response. The consensus is do NOT glue the toroids and I won't.

One guy said he has a radio that traveled 500k miles in a big truck and 
I surely know what that kind of environment is like. Says a lot for the 
radio's durability right there.
Thank you all for the help.

Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] To: Elecraft- Suggestions

2009-03-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
Eventually there will be a 600 meter Amateur band, so covering 495kc to 
510kc would be a nice feature for the K3. It would be the first 
commercial radio to cover 600 meters then.

If there was a way to add a option kit for the K2 to do this, I would be 
#1 on the list to buy it...hi hi...

73
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16 on 600m
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Re: [Elecraft] hot glue K2 toroids?

2009-03-02 Thread Mike-WE0H
Let's get a list together of safe RTV products for electronics use.

Mike
WE0H


w...@comcast.net wrote:
 I believe there is lots of non out-gasing RTV's out there. I use it for power 
 dividers all the time. Just smell it, it's pretty easy to tell the difference.

 Terry
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Re: [Elecraft] VLF/LF Converters

2009-03-01 Thread Mike-WE0H
I'll copy this to the reflector...I don't have that answer Phil. Just 
got into the Elecraft rigs at the Orlando Hamcation when I ordered my 
K2. I am sure someone on the reflector will have an answer. You should 
hear Pat XSH/6 real well down there on 600m as he is 4 blocks from the 
Gulf Coast in Mississippi. He normally sits on 506.35kc running CW or 
505.266kc running QRSS-3.
Mike
WE0H


Phil LaMarche wrote:
 I have general coverage in my K3, what and how would I enter this frequency?

 Phil 


 Philip LaMarche 
 LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
 www.instantgourmetspices.com

 www.w9dvm.com 
 800-395-7795 pin 02 
 727-944-3226 
 FAX 727-937-8834 
 NASFT 30210 

 K3  #1605
 W9DVM 




 From:  WE0H
 I am one of those 600m stations, WD2XSH/16. Currently building my K2 and
 after that, a new 7mc IF transverter to get the K2 down on 600 meters. I
 currently run a 3mc IF transverter and my TS-930. CW coverage for my station
 is pretty much the whole lower 48 states  into Canada. I have been on the
 air for a year or so now. The band is 505-510kc but most hang out in the
 505-508kc area to avoid the NDB's on 510kc.
 Mike
 WE0H



 Jack Smith-6 wrote:
   
 Geoff:

 There are a dozen or so experimental stations in the 500 KHz  range 
 operated by a group of hams. http://www.500kc.com/ has more detail. It 
 seems that not too many are actually radiating as of this time however.

 There are also quite a few lowfer Part 15 (unlicensed, but 
 permitted) beacons in the 186 KHz range.  The Longwave Club of America 
 is a  good starting point for these Part 15 operations. 
 http://www.lwca.org/

 No 136 KHz amateur operations here in the US, unfortunately.

 Jack K8ZOA
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[Elecraft] [K2]...Hot glue toroids to PCB???

2009-03-01 Thread Mike-WE0H
Building my K2. Does anyone see any issues with using hot glue to glue 
the toroids down to the boards? I've never had issues gluing toroids 
down in my 600 meter projects. Inductance values have never changed from 
no glue to glued down. But with the K2, it just doesn't seem right to 
leave the toroids loose without gluing them to the boards. So what do 
you guys think, glue or no glue?

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] K2 transverter question

2009-02-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Building my K2 next week. I run 600 meters and use a homebrew 
transverter right now with my Kenwood HF rig. Going to build a new 
transverter for my K2 when it is finished. I ordered the transverter 
option. I need the K2 to function from 3.135mc to 3.510mc as I use a 
3.0mc oven oscillator as my reference mixed with the HF radio's signal 
to get me on 2200, 1750  600 meters. I am licensed as a Part 5 station 
on those 3 bands. Will the K2 operate in that band at  below 80 meters? 
I only need the transverter ports to function, not the HF power amp.

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 transverter question

2009-02-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Thank you Ken. Looks like it will be just fine then. Just built a FCC-2 
MK-II a few weeks ago. It is a very nice DDS VFO.

73
Mike
WE0H


Ken K3IU wrote:
 Hi Mike:
 I got out a l'il FCC-2 freq counter/vfo that I built, hooked it up to 
 the K2 and was able to hear a signal on the K2 to down just below 
 2740kc. The VCO unlocked just below that. At 3000kc the output power 
 was about 10 watts. I don't know what kind of sensitivity is available 
 in the K2 that far out of its specified band, but my guess is that it 
 should be OK for what you intend.
 Good luck with the project.
 73, Ken K3IU
 K2 #5413
 K3 #202

 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Building my K2 next week. I run 600 meters and use a homebrew 
 transverter right now with my Kenwood HF rig. Going to build a new 
 transverter for my K2 when it is finished. I ordered the transverter 
 option. I need the K2 to function from 3.135mc to 3.510mc as I use a 
 3.0mc oven oscillator as my reference mixed with the HF radio's signal 
 to get me on 2200, 1750  600 meters. I am licensed as a Part 5 station 
 on those 3 bands. Will the K2 operate in that band at  below 80 meters? 
 I only need the transverter ports to function, not the HF power amp.

 Many thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 transverter question

2009-02-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

Wow that does present an issue now. I will see if I can find a suitable 
reference oscillator at one of those 4 freq's. Seems kind of odd IF 
freq's not having one at 10.0mc. Does anyone has a suggestion on what 
oscillator I could brew up that would stay on freq within 1 cycle for 
over 24 hours after warm up? That is the reason why I now run a oven 
oscillator because it never changes freq month after month and has zero 
drift. I run digital modes down there that won't tolerate even a 1 cycle 
drift. My oscillator's are a commercial assembly from old analog cell 
sites. Got a deal on them years ago and built my LF  MF station around 
them.

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H



Don  wrote:
 Mike,

 The K60XV will not provide any advantage for you with that IF 
 frequency band.  The available IF frequencies for the K2 transverter 
 bands are limited to 7 MHz, 14 MHz, 21 MHz and 28 MHz.  These are 
 'bottom of the band' frequencies and tuning will be upward from there.

 You can use the normal K2 BNC output (SO-239 if you have the KPA100 
 installed) and translate the actual transverter input frequency in 
 your head.  You may be doing that already with your Kenwood.
 If you really need to use the K60XV output, you will need to modify 
 your transverter to use one of the available IF frequencies.

 You will also not be able to have the K2 directly readout the 
 frequency in that input band, but if you do change your transverter to 
 use the K60XV, you might want to 'fool' the K2 by entering 50 MHz as 
 the RF band and ignore the first digit on the display to obtain the 
 proper frequency.

 In other words, you could use the K60XV if you changed the transverter 
 oscillator to 7 MHz instead of your current 3 MHz and reworked the IF 
 bandpass for 7000 to 7510 kHz, the K2 would tune from 7000 kHz to 7510 
 kHz to cover the input frequencies from DC to 510 kHz.  If you 
 selected 50 MHz as the RF band, you would see 5.00 to 50550.00 on 
 the K2 display.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Building my K2 next week. I run 600 meters and use a homebrew 
 transverter right now with my Kenwood HF rig. Going to build a new 
 transverter for my K2 when it is finished. I ordered the transverter 
 option. I need the K2 to function from 3.135mc to 3.510mc as I use a 
 3.0mc oven oscillator as my reference mixed with the HF radio's 
 signal to get me on 2200, 1750  600 meters. I am licensed as a Part 
 5 station on those 3 bands. Will the K2 operate in that band at  
 below 80 meters? I only need the transverter ports to function, not 
 the HF power amp.

 Many thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 transverter question

2009-02-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
Hi Don,

I can drop the level down and divide as you said. That would be easy 
enough. I wonder if the software of the K2 could be changed to allow any 
HF band to be used as an IF with that K60XV board? Who would I speak 
with about changing the software?

Otherwise I'll continue to look for a oven oscillator at those 4 
baseband freq's. If I can't find one then I will have to use your method 
to generate some harmonics and pick the 7.0mc signal and buffer/filter 
it for the mixer. One way or the other it'll get done...hi hi...

Thanks,
Mike



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 It is a matter of firmware, not hardware limitations.
 I would guess that when the K60XV was released, no one thought it 
 would ever be used for down-converting, so only the normal VHF IF 
 frequencies were made available.

 Since your current oscillator is super-stable, have you considered 
 using it as a standard.  Use a digital counter to divide by 3 - that 
 will produce a square wave which is rich in odd order harmonics - a 
 tuned circuit could then pick off the 7th harmonic of the 1 kHz 
 frequency.  I don't know if it would work easily for you, but I think 
 it would be viable enough to experiment with.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike-WE0H wrote:
 Hi Don,

 Wow that does present an issue now. I will see if I can find a 
 suitable reference oscillator at one of those 4 freq's. Seems kind of 
 odd IF freq's not having one at 10.0mc. Does anyone has a suggestion 
 on what oscillator I could brew up that would stay on freq within 1 
 cycle for over 24 hours after warm up? That is the reason why I now 
 run a oven oscillator because it never changes freq month after month 
 and has zero drift. I run digital modes down there that won't 
 tolerate even a 1 cycle drift. My oscillator's are a commercial 
 assembly from old analog cell sites. Got a deal on them years ago and 
 built my LF  MF station around them.

 Thanks much,
 Mike
 WE0H



 Don  wrote:
  
 Mike,

 The K60XV will not provide any advantage for you with that IF 
 frequency band.  The available IF frequencies for the K2 transverter 
 bands are limited to 7 MHz, 14 MHz, 21 MHz and 28 MHz.  These are 
 'bottom of the band' frequencies and tuning will be upward from there.

 You can use the normal K2 BNC output (SO-239 if you have the KPA100 
 installed) and translate the actual transverter input frequency in 
 your head.  You may be doing that already with your Kenwood.
 If you really need to use the K60XV output, you will need to modify 
 your transverter to use one of the available IF frequencies.

 You will also not be able to have the K2 directly readout the 
 frequency in that input band, but if you do change your transverter 
 to use the K60XV, you might want to 'fool' the K2 by entering 50 MHz 
 as the RF band and ignore the first digit on the display to obtain 
 the proper frequency.

 In other words, you could use the K60XV if you changed the 
 transverter oscillator to 7 MHz instead of your current 3 MHz and 
 reworked the IF bandpass for 7000 to 7510 kHz, the K2 would tune 
 from 7000 kHz to 7510 kHz to cover the input frequencies from DC to 
 510 kHz.  If you selected 50 MHz as the RF band, you would see 
 5.00 to 50550.00 on the K2 display.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
 

  
 Mike-WE0H wrote:

 Building my K2 next week. I run 600 meters and use a homebrew 
 transverter right now with my Kenwood HF rig. Going to build a new 
 transverter for my K2 when it is finished. I ordered the 
 transverter option. I need the K2 to function from 3.135mc to 
 3.510mc as I use a 3.0mc oven oscillator as my reference mixed with 
 the HF radio's signal to get me on 2200, 1750  600 meters. I am 
 licensed as a Part 5 station on those 3 bands. Will the K2 operate 
 in that band at  below 80 meters? I only need the transverter 
 ports to function, not the HF power amp.

 Many thanks,
 Mike
 WE0H
  
   


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 transverter question

2009-02-26 Thread Mike-WE0H
I wonder if that was Wayne whom I spoke with at the Orlando Hamcation a 
couple weekends ago? There was a guy and a lady there at the Elecraft 
booth and both were extremely helpful and willing to sit down and answer 
tons of questions. That was the best customer service experience I have 
seen in a long time. I'll ask Wayne and cross my fingers that it can be 
done easily...hi hi...

Mike



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 The only person that would change the firmware would be Wayne Burdick 
 himself.  In the K2 it would require replacement of the firmware chip 
 because K2 firmware is not downloadable like the K3.

 You would likely have to pry Wayne away from his K3 MCU firmware 
 efforts to get his attention, but you certainly could ask.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
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