Re: [Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Harry and all,

Yes, that clarifies things.
Pins 7 and 8 of the DE9 connector at the K2 end of the cable must NOT 
connect to the K2 AUX IO connector.
But the wires coming from the cable (NOT from the D-sub connector), can 
be connected together.  Applications that expect CTS/RTS handshaking 
will need that connection - most applications will work without it.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2019 3:26 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

  To Clarify this information
-
The color codes are from the wires on the FTDI USB Cable 
(USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0)
-
The only wires that will be connected are the
Yellow Wire that will be connected to Pin 2 of the Male 9 pin connector
Orange Wite that will be connected to Pin 3 of the Male 9 pin connector
Black Wire that will be connected to Pin 5 of the Male 9 pin connector
-
The Green Wire on the USB cable is the RTS Line
The Brown Wire on the USB cable is the CTS line
The Green and Brown Wires should be connected to each other and nothing else.-
The Red wire is unused
-
This should clear up any confusion

  
  I'm passing this info along for those who may have a K2 and find this useful.


FTDI makes a USB to RS-232 Cable Part Number: USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0
The cable has a USB plug on one end and is terminated in wires on the other end.
--
Here is the Pin-out to make a USB to K2 Cable

Color - Signal - Notes
Yellow - RXD - Pin 2 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data In From K2
Orange - TXD - Pin 3 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data Out To K2
Black - Gnd - Pin 5 on 9 Pin Connector - Ground
Green - RTS - Tied to CTS Line
Brown - CTS - Tied to RTC Line
Red - Power - Unused - 0.0v
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
 Yes it was a typo it should have been RTS

The RTS (Request To Send) and CTS (Clear To Send) probably don't need
to be tied together but some programs may want it so I tied them together.


   





 On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 3:30:20 PM EDT, Andy Durbin  
wrote:  
 
 "Before plugging that into the K2 AUX IO connector, the Green, Brown, and Red 
conductors must be cut or damage to the K2 and/or the adapter can be damaged."

It appears to me that the only AUX connector pins that are used by this 
proposed cable are 2, 3, and 5.    If the K2 will accept RS-232 levels without 
damage then I don't see how any damage can be done by the proposed cable.  The 
cable specification would be clearer if the meaning of "RTC" were known.  I 
suspect it's a typo for RTS and that the CTS and RTS wires are tied together 
but not connected to the AUX connector.

73,
Andy, k3wyc



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[Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Andy Durbin
"Before plugging that into the K2 AUX IO connector, the Green, Brown, and Red 
conductors must be cut or damage to the K2 and/or the adapter can be damaged."

It appears to me that the only AUX connector pins that are used by this 
proposed cable are 2, 3, and 5.If the K2 will accept RS-232 levels without 
damage then I don't see how any damage can be done by the proposed cable.  The 
cable specification would be clearer if the meaning of "RTC" were known.  I 
suspect it's a typo for RTS and that the CTS and RTS wires are tied together 
but not connected to the AUX connector.

73,
Andy, k3wyc



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
 To Clarify this information
-
The color codes are from the wires on the FTDI USB Cable 
(USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0)
-
The only wires that will be connected are the
Yellow Wire that will be connected to Pin 2 of the Male 9 pin connector
Orange Wite that will be connected to Pin 3 of the Male 9 pin connector
Black Wire that will be connected to Pin 5 of the Male 9 pin connector
-
The Green Wire on the USB cable is the RTS Line
The Brown Wire on the USB cable is the CTS line
The Green and Brown Wires should be connected to each other and nothing else.-
The Red wire is unused 
-
This should clear up any confusion

 
 I'm passing this info along for those who may have a K2 and find this useful.

FTDI makes a USB to RS-232 Cable Part Number: USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0
The cable has a USB plug on one end and is terminated in wires on the other end.
--
Here is the Pin-out to make a USB to K2 Cable

Color - Signal - Notes
Yellow - RXD - Pin 2 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data In From K2
Orange - TXD - Pin 3 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data Out To K2
Black - Gnd - Pin 5 on 9 Pin Connector - Ground
Green - RTS - Tied to CTS Line
Brown - CTS - Tied to RTC Line
Red - Power - Unused - 0.0v
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
 Please read what I posted and you will see it is correct
The color codes are from the USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0


On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 2:42:53 PM EDT, Don Wilhelm 
 wrote:  
 
 Harry,

Before plugging that into the K2 AUX IO connector, the Green, Brown, and 
Red conductors must be cut or damage to the K2 and/or the adapter can be 
damaged.  Note that the connector on the K2 is labeled AUX IO, and that 
is for a reason - it is NOT RS-232.

At the very least, if that adapter ties RTS and CTS together, that will 
put +12 volts on the VRFDET internal K2 signal line and the K2 will not 
transmit with that condition present, and it may damage the MCU pin 2 
input.  If that pin is damaged, the K2 will transmit but will have no 
power control and the power will go to the maximum which will cause 
additional damage if that condition exists for more than a very short time.

Build the PC to K2 cable shown in the KIO2 and KPA100 manuals and plug 
it into that adapter or most any other FTDI USB to Serial adpater.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2019 2:10 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I'm passing this info along for those who may have a K2 and find this useful.
> 
> FTDI makes a USB to RS-232 Cable Part Number: USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0
> The cable has a USB plug on one end and is terminated in wires on the other 
> end.
> --
> Here is the Pin-out to make a USB to K2 Cable
> 
> Color - Signal - Notes
> Yellow - RXD - Pin 2 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data In From K2
> Orange - TXD - Pin 3 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data Out To K2
> Black - Gnd - Pin 5 on 9 Pin Connector - Ground
> Green - RTS - Tied to CTS Line
> Brown - CTS - Tied to RTC Line
> Red - Power - Unused - 0.0v
> --
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Harry,

Before plugging that into the K2 AUX IO connector, the Green, Brown, and 
Red conductors must be cut or damage to the K2 and/or the adapter can be 
damaged.  Note that the connector on the K2 is labeled AUX IO, and that 
is for a reason - it is NOT RS-232.


At the very least, if that adapter ties RTS and CTS together, that will 
put +12 volts on the VRFDET internal K2 signal line and the K2 will not 
transmit with that condition present, and it may damage the MCU pin 2 
input.  If that pin is damaged, the K2 will transmit but will have no 
power control and the power will go to the maximum which will cause 
additional damage if that condition exists for more than a very short time.


Build the PC to K2 cable shown in the KIO2 and KPA100 manuals and plug 
it into that adapter or most any other FTDI USB to Serial adpater.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2019 2:10 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

I'm passing this info along for those who may have a K2 and find this useful.

FTDI makes a USB to RS-232 Cable Part Number: USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0
The cable has a USB plug on one end and is terminated in wires on the other end.
--
Here is the Pin-out to make a USB to K2 Cable

Color - Signal - Notes
Yellow - RXD - Pin 2 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data In From K2
Orange - TXD - Pin 3 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data Out To K2
Black - Gnd - Pin 5 on 9 Pin Connector - Ground
Green - RTS - Tied to CTS Line
Brown - CTS - Tied to RTC Line
Red - Power - Unused - 0.0v
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[Elecraft] K2 USB to 9 Pin Cable (info)

2019-06-04 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I'm passing this info along for those who may have a K2 and find this useful.

FTDI makes a USB to RS-232 Cable Part Number: USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0
The cable has a USB plug on one end and is terminated in wires on the other end.
--
Here is the Pin-out to make a USB to K2 Cable

Color - Signal - Notes
Yellow - RXD - Pin 2 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data In From K2
Orange - TXD - Pin 3 on 9 Pin Connector - RS-232 Data Out To K2
Black - Gnd - Pin 5 on 9 Pin Connector - Ground
Green - RTS - Tied to CTS Line
Brown - CTS - Tied to RTC Line
Red - Power - Unused - 0.0v
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