Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
I would really like the operating scripts to help me learn the K3 operation - just received my K3 last week and will be building the kit shortly ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Absolutely. Do it. Phil amp; Debbie Salas wrote: While working on the next revision of the owner's manual... I wonder if it would be a good idea to include a table with popular microphones and what the settings should be (Elecraft, Kenwood and Heil?). Just because there seem to be a lot of quesitons about this here. Since I'm a CW op this doesn't affect me, but seems like it might help some folks. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-to-help-first-time-users-tp18172375p18183044.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:47:36 -0700, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Imagine if, as a new user of the K3, you could have an expert looking over your shoulder. He could step you through a series of actions to set the radio up for a particular operating scenario, pointing out the rig's powerful features along the way. [snip] Excellent! I believe you have hit on something revolutionary! The most valuable learning experiences I've had during my lifetime have been those where a mentor has said to me, Let me show how that works., or This is how I do that.. It is one thing to have a full tool box at you disposal, but having expert help describing their use is most valuable. Many years ago while learning the fine art of tuning diesel engine valve settings from an old hand I learned the many different ways to use a screw driver and box-end wrench effectively. I look forward to seeing your idea implemented both on the web site and in the user manuals! Bravo! Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Hi all, While working on the next revision of the owner's manual, I've been thinking that it gives a decidedly top-down (deductive) look at the K3's controls and features. But for many people, a bottom-up (inductive) approach leads to quicker results. Imagine if, as a new user of the K3, you could have an expert looking over your shoulder. He could step you through a series of actions to set the radio up for a particular operating scenario, pointing out the rig's powerful features along the way. This is the idea behind operating scripts. I'm imagining one or two-page .html documents that can be either viewed on-line or printed. Each would have a very specific title, something like: K3 Operating Script: CW DXing on 40 m And an introduction, e.g.: This script will step you through a typical weak-signal DXing session with the K3, in this case on 40 m. This band offers several unique challenges (QRN, QRM) and opportunities (like gray-line long-path to Asia or Africa). It's a great vehicle for demonstrating the K3's noise blanking and filtering, as well as diversity receive with the sub receiver (etc.) It might be formatted as a table with two columns. The first would provide unambiguous instructions, and the second could provide expected observations, variations on commands, or helpful tips. Here's an example: - Action - - Notes -- Switch to 40 m by tapping BAND UP/DN Also try: FREQ ENT, '7000', '-' on keypad Tap MODE UP/DN to get to CW mode Hold NORM (hold function of SHIFT/LO Sets overall passband to 400 Hz; wings appear knob) on the DSP graphic to show passband is normalized Etc. Here's where your creativity comes in! Lead the new user through a typical session, dealing with The Dragon, searching for DX, narrowing down the passband using WIDTH, NORM ALT1/2, or presets I/II, notching out big broadcast station carriers you get the idea. I haven't thought it through much beyond that. But it's safe to say that we'd accept accurate (tested) scripts from K3 owners and create a page for them on our web site. If you'd like to try your hand at this, feel free to send an example script to me, and also copy it to Greg (AB7R), ab7r AT cablespeed DOT com. Some scripts I'd like to see: - 6 meter FM and repeaters - Making the most of stereo speakers/phones (AFX, etc.) - Pileup management in SPLIT mode - Exploring the filter passband controls - Filter setup: CONFIG menu vs. K3 Utility - RTTY QSOs without a computer - Setting up and using PC soundcard I/O 73, Wayne, N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
While working on the next revision of the owner's manual... I wonder if it would be a good idea to include a table with popular microphones and what the settings should be (Elecraft, Kenwood and Heil?). Just because there seem to be a lot of quesitons about this here. Since I'm a CW op this doesn't affect me, but seems like it might help some folks. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Instead of placing this info in the owners manual, how about just adding it to FAQ on the web site. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Debbie Salas Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users While working on the next revision of the owner's manual... I wonder if it would be a good idea to include a table with popular microphones and what the settings should be (Elecraft, Kenwood and Heil?). Just because there seem to be a lot of quesitons about this here. Since I'm a CW op this doesn't affect me, but seems like it might help some folks. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Bob Serwy wrote: Instead of placing this info in the owners manual, how about just adding it to FAQ on the web site. Wouldn't the K3 Wiki (http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET) be the best place for stuff like this? The added benefit is users can add and edit their own stuff, so no valuable Elecraft resources are consumed by the process. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-to-help-first-time-users-tp18172375p18172713.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
The key words here are users can add or edit ... I seldom/never use the Wiki because of this. To put it simply, I have no confidence in what's posted there because of this. Far too many enjoy misleading the gullible just for perverse amusement. Wayne, the scripts idea has -lots- of appeal for me, but -only- on the Elecraft website. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Since I am struggling with the current format that sounds great to me 73 Doug N3QW - Original Message - From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:47 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users Hi all, While working on the next revision of the owner's manual, I've been thinking that it gives a decidedly top-down (deductive) look at the K3's controls and features. But for many people, a bottom-up (inductive) approach leads to quicker results. Imagine if, as a new user of the K3, you could have an expert looking over your shoulder. He could step you through a series of actions to set the radio up for a particular operating scenario, pointing out the rig's powerful features along the way. This is the idea behind operating scripts. I'm imagining one or two-page .html documents that can be either viewed on-line or printed. Each would have a very specific title, something like: K3 Operating Script: CW DXing on 40 m And an introduction, e.g.: This script will step you through a typical weak-signal DXing session with the K3, in this case on 40 m. This band offers several unique challenges (QRN, QRM) and opportunities (like gray-line long-path to Asia or Africa). It's a great vehicle for demonstrating the K3's noise blanking and filtering, as well as diversity receive with the sub receiver (etc.) It might be formatted as a table with two columns. The first would provide unambiguous instructions, and the second could provide expected observations, variations on commands, or helpful tips. Here's an example: - Action - - Notes -- Switch to 40 m by tapping BAND UP/DN Also try: FREQ ENT, '7000', '-' on keypad Tap MODE UP/DN to get to CW mode Hold NORM (hold function of SHIFT/LO Sets overall passband to 400 Hz; wings appear knob) on the DSP graphic to show passband is normalized Etc. Here's where your creativity comes in! Lead the new user through a typical session, dealing with The Dragon, searching for DX, narrowing down the passband using WIDTH, NORM ALT1/2, or presets I/II, notching out big broadcast station carriers you get the idea. I haven't thought it through much beyond that. But it's safe to say that we'd accept accurate (tested) scripts from K3 owners and create a page for them on our web site. If you'd like to try your hand at this, feel free to send an example script to me, and also copy it to Greg (AB7R), ab7r AT cablespeed DOT com. Some scripts I'd like to see: - 6 meter FM and repeaters - Making the most of stereo speakers/phones (AFX, etc.) - Pileup management in SPLIT mode - Exploring the filter passband controls - Filter setup: CONFIG menu vs. K3 Utility - RTTY QSOs without a computer - Setting up and using PC soundcard I/O 73, Wayne, N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Ken Kopp-3 wrote: The key words here are users can add or edit ... I seldom/never use the Wiki because of this. To put it simply, I have no confidence in what's posted there because of this. Far too many enjoy misleading the gullible just for perverse amusement. Wayne, the scripts idea has -lots- of appeal for me, but -only- on the Elecraft website. I think that's a bit of a slap in the face to those who have freely spent a lot of their time creating and editing the material in the Wiki for the benefit of other Elecraft users. Wikis are widely used as *the* documentation source for many open source projects. Editors and peer reviewers ensure that any incorrect information doesn't stay very long. If it works for software I don't see why it can't work for Elecraft radios. Presumably you seldom or never believe anything written on personal websites either, since there is even less control or expert review of the content than there is in a Wiki. (I've seen some complete nonsense written about propagation, to name just one example.) - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-to-help-first-time-users-tp18172375p18174952.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
