RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
Sounds like a market for paddles with adjustable tactile feedback, like some of the high end game controllers. Give us Hams a chance and we'll replace a $100 bug with a $400 simulator that is almost as good, Hi! I agree that the bug feel is gone, but I can send okay on paddles emulating a bug. It's very useful to me working portable where I don't want to carry my bug. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very different feel than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it basically impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
Maybe I'm missing something here, but this all kinda reminds of that old saw about a duck... You know, If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... If you want a key that works like a bug, feels like a bug, and sounds like a bug... Why not just get a bug? There are lots of them out there, both antique and brand-spankin' new, like the Vibroplex line still in production today after more than a century (http://vibroplex.com/original_bug.html). I used a Vibroplex standard model bug from the time I was 13 years old and passed my Extra-class 20 WPM sending test at the FCC in 1977 using one, but today I really like my Kent paddle and Elecraft B-mode iambic keyer. One of the coolest things about my old bug was just the way it looked, so if I ever wanted to go back to a bug... I'd just go back to a bug. :-) Bill W5WVO - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)? Sounds like a market for paddles with adjustable tactile feedback, like some of the high end game controllers. Give us Hams a chance and we'll replace a $100 bug with a $400 simulator that is almost as good, Hi! I agree that the bug feel is gone, but I can send okay on paddles emulating a bug. It's very useful to me working portable where I don't want to carry my bug. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very different feel than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it basically impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
I don't know about others, but I find a bug a bit heavy and clumsy to carry around hiking on a mountain trail, not to mention the danger of damaging it. Even my smallish E.F. Johnson version of the Speed-X is bigger than my KX1. I prefer to carry my bugs in proper boxes and use them on a table top. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Maybe I'm missing something here, but this all kinda reminds of that old saw about a duck... You know, If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... If you want a key that works like a bug, feels like a bug, and sounds like a bug... Why not just get a bug? There are lots of them out there, both antique and brand-spankin' new, like the Vibroplex line still in production today after more than a century (http://vibroplex.com/original_bug.html). I used a Vibroplex standard model bug from the time I was 13 years old and passed my Extra-class 20 WPM sending test at the FCC in 1977 using one, but today I really like my Kent paddle and Elecraft B-mode iambic keyer. One of the coolest things about my old bug was just the way it looked, so if I ever wanted to go back to a bug... I'd just go back to a bug. :-) Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
Although I'm right-handed, I originally learned on a left-handed bug because that's what my college roommate had. To this day I can send with either hand with either a bug or keyer. A rare ability, if only I could find a practical use for it! On my operating desk I have a J-38 straight key, a T. R. McElroy bug, and a Viroplex single-lever keyer paddle. Plus I have a homebrew lightweight paddle http://www.cds1.net/~n1al/ham/paddle.htm connected to the QRP rig. Elecraft content: It's nice that the K3 has separate inputs for key and key paddle so I can instantly switch between them. Al N1AL On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:09, Bill W5WVO wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but this all kinda reminds of that old saw about a duck... You know, If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... If you want a key that works like a bug, feels like a bug, and sounds like a bug... Why not just get a bug? There are lots of them out there, both antique and brand-spankin' new, like the Vibroplex line still in production today after more than a century (http://vibroplex.com/original_bug.html). I used a Vibroplex standard model bug from the time I was 13 years old and passed my Extra-class 20 WPM sending test at the FCC in 1977 using one, but today I really like my Kent paddle and Elecraft B-mode iambic keyer. One of the coolest things about my old bug was just the way it looked, so if I ever wanted to go back to a bug... I'd just go back to a bug. :-) Bill W5WVO - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)? Sounds like a market for paddles with adjustable tactile feedback, like some of the high end game controllers. Give us Hams a chance and we'll replace a $100 bug with a $400 simulator that is almost as good, Hi! I agree that the bug feel is gone, but I can send okay on paddles emulating a bug. It's very useful to me working portable where I don't want to carry my bug. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very different feel than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it basically impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a bug mode for CW might try this-- at your own risk. Single lever paddles only. 1) connect paddle dit side to the keyer jack dit side 2) connect paddle dash side to key jack 3) ground to paddle common. Dual lever paddles can short 1) and 2) together and shouldn't be used without some kind of isolation. 73 de K3KO -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-bug-mode-there-%28sort-of%29--tp1078697p1078697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
For those who want the bug mode, plug your bug into the key jack, select the cw mode and get with it. It works for me! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ --- On Tue, 9/9/08, alsopb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: alsopb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:08 PM Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a bug mode for CW might try this-- at your own risk. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very different feel than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it basically impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV Al N1AL On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 15:08, alsopb wrote: Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a bug mode for CW might try this-- at your own risk. Single lever paddles only. 1) connect paddle dit side to the keyer jack dit side 2) connect paddle dash side to key jack 3) ground to paddle common. Dual lever paddles can short 1) and 2) together and shouldn't be used without some kind of isolation. 73 de K3KO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
