Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Tox]

>holding his wife's hand and squeezing "73 es 88" just before he slipped off SK

oh, that puts a tear in the eye...

Scott
AD6YT
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Phil Kane]

On 12/17/2019 11:15 AM, n...@zianet.com wrote:

> I looked forward to our 15-20 minute QSOs 2-3 times a week, realizing CW
> and ham radio was his only life line to the world.  So kudos to the
> nursing home that accommodated his ham radio.
> 
> Sadly, one day his CQs stopped.

A revered member of our Golden Gate Telephone Pioneers Radio Club was in
his final hours and his last contact was holding his wife's hand and
squeezing "73 es 88" just before he slipped off SK. That was may years
ago and we still miss him.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Gilbert]

The legality of renting a station has been hashed over many times, and I 
think it's pretty clear that the FCC doesn't see any difference between 
somebody renting their house that happens to have a station in it than 
they do for somebody renting a remotely operated station.  The FCC 
specifies that a control operator needs to be present at all times, but 
that control point can be from a remote location as well .. ala VHF/UHF 
mountaintop repeaters.  In any case outfits like RHR require that anyone 
using their stations have a legitimate ham radio license, which makes 
them the approved control operator.


In other words, the owner of the station is renting his gear ... he's 
not selling the "communication" itself that is specified in the FCC 
rules.  RHR has been operating on a large scale for quite some time and 
almost for sure would have come into view of the FCC long ago.


And yes, every contest or award program I'm aware of requires that the 
operation claim the location of the gear, not the operator.


73,
Dave  AB7E


On 12/17/2019 9:56 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
First off, I question the legality of renting a ham station for profit 
(which this example seems to be).  But it seems to be done for renting 
stations in exotic (rare DX) locations with no heart attack by 
hamdom.  Treated as vacation rentals.


But owning your own remote located station using internet control from 
our room in assisted living seems a viable alternative.


Many of these senior facilities ban use of RF devices due to RFI 
concerns with pace maker users or medical equipment.  Maybe one could 
use a 5w HT.  External antennas are  problem-some.  My concept was 
installing my ham station in a "toy hauler" trailer with crank-up 
tower that could be moved and located in a convenient location.  Also, 
handy as emmcom station.


Also, some ham groups form a kind of club to jointly own a "super 
station" which members share.  Such a group in Switzerland own a 
45-foot dish which they share using for eme.  But organized as 
not-for-profit.


I do expect any contest/award operations to claim the physical 
transmitter location (instead of the remote operator's qth).


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Edward R Cole]

First off, I question the legality of renting a ham station for 
profit (which this example seems to be).  But it seems to be done for 
renting stations in exotic (rare DX) locations with no heart attack 
by hamdom.  Treated as vacation rentals.


But owning your own remote located station using internet control 
from our room in assisted living seems a viable alternative.


Many of these senior facilities ban use of RF devices due to RFI 
concerns with pace maker users or medical equipment.  Maybe one could 
use a 5w HT.  External antennas are  problem-some.  My concept was 
installing my ham station in a "toy hauler" trailer with crank-up 
tower that could be moved and located in a convenient 
location.  Also, handy as emmcom station.


Also, some ham groups form a kind of club to jointly own a "super 
station" which members share.  Such a group in Switzerland own a 
45-foot dish which they share using for eme.  But organized as not-for-profit.


I do expect any contest/award operations to claim the physical 
transmitter location (instead of the remote operator's qth).


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Jim Brown]

On 12/17/2019 2:30 PM, David Gilbert wrote:

Building a station is fine for those with the resources to do so, but 
I'd posit that having the skills to operate one is at least as relevant 
to the spirit of ham radio.


Yep. And those of us with big stations have had lots of help from other 
hams in building and maintaining them.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Michael Walker]

Since I have done a lot of remote operating (just to get my HF station away
from the noise).  And, it is my station, my station only and I built it
from scratch.

I have advised those of you getting on in years that the technology now
exists go get 3 or 4 of you on the same project, while you can and build
your own remote.  You just need a quiet site with internet.

Since you are retired by this point, you might need a hobby for your
hobby.  :)

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:31 PM David Gilbert 
wrote:

>
> That's a pretty simplistic attitude, and probably a hypocritical one as
> well.  Have you never rented a camper, or a cabin, or a car, or a
> specialized tool?  I doubt it you own everything you've ever used. More
> to the point, have you never guest operated at somebody else's station,
> or do you frown upon those that do?
>
> Building a station is fine for those with the resources to do so, but
> I'd posit that having the skills to operate one is at least as relevant
> to the spirit of ham radio.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 12/17/2019 2:15 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> > I am in no way in favor of renting, leasing or using a remote station,
> > for any purpose, other than use by and that of the primary owner.
> >
> > As we say in the country, "if one can't run with the big dogs, then
> > best stay under the porch".Renting a station of that magnitude
> > does not make one a big dog.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bob, K4TAX
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Gilbert]

That's a pretty simplistic attitude, and probably a hypocritical one as 
well.  Have you never rented a camper, or a cabin, or a car, or a 
specialized tool?  I doubt it you own everything you've ever used. More 
to the point, have you never guest operated at somebody else's station, 
or do you frown upon those that do?


Building a station is fine for those with the resources to do so, but 
I'd posit that having the skills to operate one is at least as relevant 
to the spirit of ham radio.


Dave   AB7E



On 12/17/2019 2:15 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I am in no way in favor of renting, leasing or using a remote station, 
for any purpose, other than use by and that of the primary owner.


As we say in the country, "if one can't run with the big dogs, then 
best stay under the porch".    Renting a station of that magnitude 
does not make one a big dog.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Gilbert]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your post was 
tongue-in-cheek, but for one thing you have to schedule a station amid 
competition from other hams wanting to do it.  For another, the cost 
isn't trivial if you plan to do it on a regular basis or use one of the 
bigger stations.  The example you cite costs about $1 per minute.


I think RHR is a fine idea for contests and one-off activities, but it 
hardly makes sense for general access to the bands.


And THAT's why everyone isn't doing it ...

Dave   AB7E



On 12/17/2019 11:41 AM, William Levy wrote:

A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas,
160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West
Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio
too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I am in no way in favor of renting, leasing or using a remote station, 
for any purpose, other than use by and that of the primary owner.


As we say in the country, "if one can't run with the big dogs, then best 
stay under the porch".    Renting a station of that magnitude does not 
make one a big dog.


73

Bob, K4TAX



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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[shull2805]

What's next?  Rent-a-girlfriend?  Oh, wait... they already have that.  Come to 
think of it, you make a good point about lower maintenance 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of William Levy
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:42 PM
To: Elecraft 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas, 
160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West 
Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[na5n]

About 20 years ago, I used to QSO a fella near Seattle in a nursing home on  
40M.  He'd call CQ 2300-2400 my local time.  He was using an SGC 2020 when  
they first came out, but forget what he was using as an antenna.  He had  
Parkinson's disease and was nearly blind and deaf and could no longer watch  
the news on TV.  So much of our QSO was filling him in on the day's news.   
Kinda fun for me, actually.  CW was about all he had left to communicate.   
There were times he had a small audience of nurses watching us "talk."  He  
was an old maritime radio op and in spite of his Parkinson's, worked his  
old bug at 25 wpm like a pro.  I looked forward to our 15-20 minute QSOs  
2-3 times a week, realizing CW and ham radio was his only life line to the  
world.  So kudos to the nursing home that accommodated his ham radio.


Sadly, one day his CQs stopped.

72, Paul NA5N
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Wes]

I hope you're joking.  If not, why not give up the ham ticket too and just stick 
to the iPhone?


Wes  N7WS

On 12/17/2019 11:41 AM, William Levy wrote:

A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas,
160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West
Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio
too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.


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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[William Levy]

A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas,
160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West
Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio
too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

We can die with a happy stomach or die with a unhappy stomach.  Life is simply 
too short to be unhappy for any reason. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Michael Walker  wrote:
> 
> She is correct on luncheon meats.
> 
> Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
> of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
> means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches).  Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
> are off the list too.  They use a lot of Brine.  As my wife and I did the
> Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst.  No more
> pizza or just about any Mall food.
> 
> Eggs are great!
> 
> Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
> etc.  Welcome to getting old-er.  :)
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
>> office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
>> in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper!  Example...
>> cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
>> any for the last 10 years!!
>> 
>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ha!  That's a good one.  And so true.
>>> 
>>> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>>> 
 On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S  wrote:
 
 I feel your pain !
 (Speaking from experience)
 
 The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
 The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
>>> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living
>> home
>>> we try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area
>>> are very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to
>> if
>>> and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
>>> facility.  My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
>> is
>>> a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can
>> be
>>> a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
>>> recommend.  I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> 
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
>>> restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Steve, WF3T
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[Jamie WW3S]

all you health nuts will be surprised to find you die from nothing 
someday.
as for me, I hope I'm shot in the back by a jealous husband as I'm 
crawling out some blondes bedroom window.


-- Original Message --
From: "Michael Walker" 
To: "KE8G" 
Cc: "Steven G. Steltzer" ; "Elecraft" 


Sent: 12/17/2019 9:45:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home


She is correct on luncheon meats.

Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches).  Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
are off the list too.  They use a lot of Brine.  As my wife and I did the
Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst.  No more
pizza or just about any Mall food.

Eggs are great!

Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
etc.  Welcome to getting old-er.  :)

Mike


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G  wrote:


 Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
 office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
 in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper!  Example...
 cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
 any for the last 10 years!!

 73 de Jim - KE8G

 On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

 > Ha!  That's a good one.  And so true.
 >
 > David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
 >
 > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S  wrote:
 > >
 > > I feel your pain !
 > > (Speaking from experience)
 > >
 > > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
 > > The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !
 > >
 > > Sent from my iPad
 > >
 > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
 > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 > >>
 > >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
 > recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living
 home
 > we try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area
 > are very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to
 if
 > and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
 > facility.  My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
 is
 > a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can
 be
 > a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
 > recommend.  I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
 > >>
 > >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
 > >>
 > >>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer 
 > wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
 > restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
 > >>>
 > >>> 73,
 > >>> Steve, WF3T
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[Michael Walker]

She is correct on luncheon meats.

Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches).  Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
are off the list too.  They use a lot of Brine.  As my wife and I did the
Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst.  No more
pizza or just about any Mall food.

Eggs are great!

Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
etc.  Welcome to getting old-er.  :)

Mike


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G  wrote:

> Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
> office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
> in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper!  Example...
> cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
> any for the last 10 years!!
>
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> > Ha!  That's a good one.  And so true.
> >
> > David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S  wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel your pain !
> > > (Speaking from experience)
> > >
> > > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
> > > The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
> > recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living
> home
> > we try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area
> > are very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to
> if
> > and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
> > facility.  My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
> is
> > a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can
> be
> > a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
> > recommend.  I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> > >>
> > >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> > >>
> >  On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer 
> > wrote:
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[KE8G]

Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper!  Example...
cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
any for the last 10 years!!

73 de Jim - KE8G

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> Ha!  That's a good one.  And so true.
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>
> > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S  wrote:
> >
> > I feel your pain !
> > (Speaking from experience)
> >
> > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
> > The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living home
> we try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area
> are very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to if
> and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
> facility.  My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is
> a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can be
> a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
> recommend.  I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> >>
> >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> >>
>  On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer 
> wrote:
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> >>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
> restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
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[David Wilcox via Elecraft]

Ha!  That's a good one.  And so true.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S  wrote:
> 
> I feel your pain !
> (Speaking from experience)
> 
> The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
> The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to 
>> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living home 
>> we try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area are 
>> very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and 
>> when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility.  
>> My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger 
>> nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can be a tyrant 
>> making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend.  I 
>> guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
>> 
>> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>> 
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>>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted 
>>> HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>>> 
>>> 73, 
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[WW3S]

I feel your pain !
(Speaking from experience)

The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.
The bad thing about my wife is.she is a nurse !

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to 
> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living home we 
> try to set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area are 
> very understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and 
> when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility.  
> My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger 
> nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home.  But she can be a tyrant 
> making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend.  I 
> guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> 
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer  wrote:
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>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted 
>> HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Steve, WF3T
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Wilcox via Elecraft]

Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to recover 
from some issue or permanently moves into an  assisted living home we try to 
set up a ham station in that hams room.  The homes in our area are very 
understanding.  I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and when the 
time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility.  My wife and 
I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger nurse so I hope 
to be able to play radio at home.  But she can be a tyrant making me do all the 
things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend.  I guess there are trade 
offs in every situation. Hi!

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer  wrote:
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> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's 
> . Search iCW on the web.
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Wilcox via Elecraft]

Goes to show the old maxim: GET ON THE AIR is still true.  There is always 
someone listening and hoping for a contact.  Dead bands?  NOT!  Just weaker 
signals.  It always amazes me that when the bands seem dead there are always 
signals on the digital frequencies.  I am not knocking the digital modes (I 
have recently crossed over and used FT8. boring for me but that JS8Call 
looks a little better) but if each of those pursuing the digital modes would 
put out the same signal on CW or even SSB they would be heard and probably make 
a contact.  Leave a receiver in the background on using the beacon frequency of 
your band of interest.. DON’T look at the poor band conditions indicators.  
They are too discouraging. 

Just my opinion.  Hope to hear you all on from Florida while we are there 
avoiding the snow.  Am packing my building stuff so I can finally get my three 
QCX’s built this winter. Thank you Hans and QRP Labs.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Kjeld Holm  wrote:
> 
> In restricted areas I have had good results with a short vertical dipole for 
> 10-20M like
> http://mojero.wixsite.com/twantenna/products
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> Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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[Kjeld Holm]

In restricted areas I have had good results with a short vertical dipole for 
10-20M like
http://mojero.wixsite.com/twantenna/products



Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

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CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's . 
Search iCW on the web.

73, 
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[Steven G. Steltzer]

CW ops have another option for retirement homes / severe HOA restrictions . 
Search iCW on the web. 

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Gilbert]

That's impressive, but Collington is a full blown retirement community, 
like Sun City here in Arizona.  It's not even close to being practical 
to do anything similar for the typical retirement home.  On the other 
hand, a small laptop with a TeamViewer link to a distant club station 
running FT8 would put anyone anywhere on the air ... with the added 
benefit that FT8/4 doesn't require good hearing or manual dexterity.


JS8, an offshoot of FT8,  is even a bit more of a conversational mode.  
I've never used it and it doesn't have anything close to the acceptance 
that some people have touted it to have, but PSK Reporter does show it 
being moderately popular.


73,
Dave   AB7E


On 12/16/2019 9:57 AM, N4ZR wrote:
A spectacular example of how to do this right has been set by PVRCers 
at the Collington Continuing-Care retirement community in Prince 
George's County MD.  See the QRZ lookup for K3CCR.  These 5 guys have 
demonstrated what can be done, and they're doing it most every weekend.


73, Pete N4ZR
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For spots, please use your favorite
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[N4ZR]

A spectacular example of how to do this right has been set by PVRCers at 
the Collington Continuing-Care retirement community in Prince George's 
County MD.  See the QRZ lookup for K3CCR.  These 5 guys have 
demonstrated what can be done, and they're doing it most every weekend.


73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/15/2019 9:02 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote:

Another option to consider with "retirement home" operating is what I've been 
doing:
I use a KX3 feeding an AlexLoop (small magnetic loop) set up in our bedroom to 
check into a local 10 meter net.  Works quite well.The same setup also had me 
working a DX station in Moldova... during a RTTY contest.   I used the KX3's 
built in RTTY feature for that QSO.  Oh... and I was running 3 watts on 40 
meters.  And that was with the AlexLoop set up in our sun room.
So... it can be done.
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211


-Original Message-
From: David Gilbert 
To: Bill Frantz ; elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2019 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home


Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might
consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a
friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to
operate FT8 via the internet.  QST had a recent article on it and it's
pretty simple to set up.  I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he
has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world
that way.

It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a
whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts.  You could
even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of
a disadvantage.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a
retirement home.


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[Raymond Sills via Elecraft]

Another option to consider with "retirement home" operating is what I've been 
doing:
I use a KX3 feeding an AlexLoop (small magnetic loop) set up in our bedroom to 
check into a local 10 meter net.  Works quite well.The same setup also had me 
working a DX station in Moldova... during a RTTY contest.   I used the KX3's 
built in RTTY feature for that QSO.  Oh... and I was running 3 watts on 40 
meters.  And that was with the AlexLoop set up in our sun room.  
So... it can be done.
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211


-Original Message-
From: David Gilbert 
To: Bill Frantz ; elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2019 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home


Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might 
consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a 
friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to 
operate FT8 via the internet.  QST had a recent article on it and it's 
pretty simple to set up.  I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he 
has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world 
that way.

It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a 
whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts.  You could 
even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of 
a disadvantage.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a 
> retirement home.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

[David Gilbert]

Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might 
consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a 
friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to 
operate FT8 via the internet.  QST had a recent article on it and it's 
pretty simple to set up.  I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he 
has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world 
that way.


It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a 
whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts.  You could 
even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of 
a disadvantage.


73,
Dave   AB7E


On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:


73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a 
retirement home.




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