Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card recommendation for KX3

[Don Wilhelm]

Once you have selected your soundcard and get ready to set the audio 
levels, you may want to refer to the article on my website 
www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll to the last article on the left column and click 
the link.


You must set the KX3 (or K3 or K3S or KX2) for 4 bars solid on the ALC 
display with the 5th bar flashing.  Most internet advice does not work 
for Elecraft radios.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/14/2018 10:54 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:08 AM, rick jones via Elecraft  
wrote:


I'm looking for a USB sound "dongle" that will interface with my KX3 for FT8 
and similar modes. I have a SignalLink but I'm looking for a more portable solution. Can 
someone recommend a current make/model that works well? Thank you.


This page evaluates a bunch of USB audio interfaces for spectrum display, a 
similar problem.

http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html

This page talks about experience with a few specific ones and how to set levels.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card recommendation for KX3

[Walter Underwood]

On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:08 AM, rick jones via Elecraft  
wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a USB sound "dongle" that will interface with my KX3 for FT8 
> and similar modes. I have a SignalLink but I'm looking for a more portable 
> solution. Can someone recommend a current make/model that works well? Thank 
> you.

This page evaluates a bunch of USB audio interfaces for spectrum display, a 
similar problem.

http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html

This page talks about experience with a few specific ones and how to set levels.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

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[Elecraft] USB sound card recommendation for KX3

[rick jones via Elecraft]

I'm looking for a USB sound "dongle" that will interface with my KX3 for FT8 
and similar modes. I have a SignalLink but I'm looking for a more portable 
solution. Can someone recommend a current make/model that works well? Thank you.
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Kevin Stover]

Yes.
Also once any potential driver issue is rectified and the sound card is 
installed remember EXACTLY which USB port you plugged it into and use 
the same port always. Even though the driver is installed if you 
disconnect and reconnect to a different port Windows will see it as a 
new device and start the driver dance again.

Unless plug and pray has gotten a whole lot better (I doubt it).


On 3/7/2016 5:47 AM, Terry Posey wrote:

I use an Asus XONAR U7 with NAP3 and CW Skimmer on a Lenovo Windows 10.x machine , 
attached to the K3 IF via LP-PAN2.  Almost all USB sound cards are quirky to set-up with 
your particular computer and your particular audio applications.   As for the 
"stuck" 48k sample rate:  make sure the little switch under the XONAR U7 is in 
the USB Audio 2.0 position, then follow the guidance for loading the correct driver - do 
not let Windows load the default driver.

I hope this helps.

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Terry Posey]

I use an Asus XONAR U7 with NAP3 and CW Skimmer on a Lenovo Windows 10.x 
machine , attached to the K3 IF via LP-PAN2.  Almost all USB sound cards are 
quirky to set-up with your particular computer and your particular audio 
applications.   As for the "stuck" 48k sample rate:  make sure the little 
switch under the XONAR U7 is in the USB Audio 2.0 position, then follow the 
guidance for loading the correct driver - do not let Windows load the default 
driver.

I hope this helps.

73,
Terry K4RX


Tom,

If the problem is only happening when the Asus U7 is the default soundcard, 
then how do you deal with the tendency of the Windows operating system to set 
any newly installed soundcard as the default?  
Seems like a "catch 22" to me.
Yes, the specs on the Asus U7 are very good, but for panadapter use, it needs 
the 192 kHz bandwidth.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/6/2016 7:05 PM, tomb18 wrote:
> That's strange. Never heard a single issue with the Asus u7 stuck at
> 48 and i know of many many people using them. The only reason that 
> happens is that people often set the card as the default sound card 
> which should not be done.
> The u7 in my experience, is the quietest and least likely to have Spurs.
> Cards to stay away from now a days with win10 are the emu cards. 
> Upgrades to win10 may work but not fresh installs. Drivers are at 
> least 4 years old and still beta.
> Tom
> va2fsq.com
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Mark Goldberg]

I use a U7 with the KX3 and HDSDR. There is an issue with the
initialization of the 24 bit drivers. I have set up for 24 bits, 192 kHz
and line in using the Asus software, and 24 bits and 192 kHz in Windows
control panel. When I turn the computer on and use HDSDR for the first time
I have to do the following:

Start up HDSDR and select Start.
In HDSDR switch to 16 bit drivers.
In HDSDR switch back to 24 bit drivers.
In HDSDR select bandwidth and switch the output bandwidth to 192 kHz and
back to 12 kHz for the small waterfall. The input remains 192 kHz.
In HDSDR close the bandwidth box.
In HDSDR hit Stop and then Start

After all that it works until the computer is shut down or the computer
sleeps.

If the computer sleeps, in HDSDR hit Stop and then Start if the spectrum is
backwards (moves the wrong way when you tune) or is mirrored around the
center.

Other than the annoyance above, it works well. I just live with the "dance"
at startup.

Hope this helps

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> If the problem is only happening when the Asus U7 is the default
> soundcard, then how do you deal with the tendency of the Windows operating
> system to set any newly installed soundcard as the default?  Seems like a
> "catch 22" to me.
> Yes, the specs on the Asus U7 are very good, but for panadapter use, it
> needs the 192 kHz bandwidth.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 3/6/2016 7:05 PM, tomb18 wrote:
>
>> That's strange. Never heard a single issue with the Asus u7 stuck at 48
>> and i know of many many people using them. The only reason that happens is
>> that people often set the card as the default sound card which should not
>> be done.
>> The u7 in my experience, is the quietest and least likely to have Spurs.
>> Cards to stay away from now a days with win10 are the emu cards. Upgrades
>> to win10 may work but not fresh installs. Drivers are at least 4 years old
>> and still beta.
>> Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>  Original message ----
>> From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com>
>> Date: 2016-03-06 6:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Tom Field <docw...@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card
>>
>> Tom,
>> Tom,
>>
>> If you want to use the soundcard for panadapter applications, then go
>> with the recommendations on the LP-Pan site, but there are several users
>> that have been reporting that the ASUS U7 reverts to 48k and there does
>> not seem to be a solution.  The ASUS U5 does not seem to share that
>> problem.  In addition to the bandwidth of the card, the noise floor and
>> the lack of a zero frequency spur are important considerations.
>> Look at the LP-Pan Yahoo Group for a lot of comments.
>>
>> If your soundcard will be used for digital modes only, then you do not
>> need a 'top of the line' soundcard, most any will do.
>> But the LP-Pan website can still be an assist in selecting one - look at
>> the noise level on the various cards to find the better ones for
>> soundcard digital mode use.  The internal soundcard in your computer may
>> prove to be adequate, but turn off the sounds generated by your OS if
>> you use the internal card so you do not transmit those sounds.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 3/6/2016 5:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:
>> > I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound
>> cards. Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the
>> group’s recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:
>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Don Wilhelm]

Tom,

If the problem is only happening when the Asus U7 is the default 
soundcard, then how do you deal with the tendency of the Windows 
operating system to set any newly installed soundcard as the default?  
Seems like a "catch 22" to me.
Yes, the specs on the Asus U7 are very good, but for panadapter use, it 
needs the 192 kHz bandwidth.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/6/2016 7:05 PM, tomb18 wrote:
That's strange. Never heard a single issue with the Asus u7 stuck at 
48 and i know of many many people using them. The only reason that 
happens is that people often set the card as the default sound card 
which should not be done.

The u7 in my experience, is the quietest and least likely to have Spurs.
Cards to stay away from now a days with win10 are the emu cards. 
Upgrades to win10 may work but not fresh installs. Drivers are at 
least 4 years old and still beta.

Tom
va2fsq.com




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From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com>
Date: 2016-03-06 6:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Tom Field <docw...@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

Tom,
Tom,

If you want to use the soundcard for panadapter applications, then go
with the recommendations on the LP-Pan site, but there are several users
that have been reporting that the ASUS U7 reverts to 48k and there does
not seem to be a solution.  The ASUS U5 does not seem to share that
problem.  In addition to the bandwidth of the card, the noise floor and
the lack of a zero frequency spur are important considerations.
Look at the LP-Pan Yahoo Group for a lot of comments.

If your soundcard will be used for digital modes only, then you do not
need a 'top of the line' soundcard, most any will do.
But the LP-Pan website can still be an assist in selecting one - look at
the noise level on the various cards to find the better ones for
soundcard digital mode use.  The internal soundcard in your computer may
prove to be adequate, but turn off the sounds generated by your OS if
you use the internal card so you do not transmit those sounds.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/6/2016 5:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:
> I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound 
cards. Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the 
group’s recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and 
KkX3:

>

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,3/6/2016 2:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:

Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative.


What are the negatives?  Do they relate to the way you want to use a 
sound card? What do you want a sound card to do? Digital modes? Any 
competent sound card will work for that. Spectrum display? I'd go with 
N8LP's assessment on that.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Kevin Stover]

The reviews on Amazon and NewEgg need to be taken with a grain of salt.
The vast majority of those reviews are from people who aren't 
technically inclined and you get a lot of "it sounds great" reviews. If 
you're using this for the LP-Pan take the advice of N8LP. He knows what 
works with his hardware. You might think about joining the Yahoo group 
as well.


If this is for a Windows 10 computer you may be stuck in driver "no mans 
land" until ASUS releases drivers. Welcome to the wonderful world 
Windows OS "upgrades".


On 3/6/2016 4:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:

I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:

Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Bill Frantz]

I used a SignaLink for quite a few years and then I changed to a 
Tascam US-122 mkII. When I used the SignaLink on PSK, I had to 
ride the RF gain to keep the digitized audio volume within 
acceptable input levels. With the Tascam, I no longer need to do 
that. The downside of the Tascam is it requires special drivers 
which aren't available for ARM linux.


You can get by with a minimal sound card, but there is value in 
a better one.


73 Bill AE6JV

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If your soundcard will be used for digital modes only, then you 
do not need a 'top of the line' soundcard, most any will do.

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[tomb18]

That's strange. Never heard a single issue with the Asus u7 stuck at 48 and i 
know of many many people using them. The only reason that happens is that 
people often set the card as the default sound card which should not be 
done.The u7 in my experience, is the quietest and least likely to have 
Spurs.Cards to stay away from now a days with win10 are the emu cards. Upgrades 
to win10 may work but not fresh installs. Drivers are at least 4 years old and 
still beta.Tomva2fsq.com



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> Date: 2016-03-06  6:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
Tom Field <docw...@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 
USB Sound Card 
Tom,
Tom,

If you want to use the soundcard for panadapter applications, then go 
with the recommendations on the LP-Pan site, but there are several users 
that have been reporting that the ASUS U7 reverts to 48k and there does 
not seem to be a solution.  The ASUS U5 does not seem to share that 
problem.  In addition to the bandwidth of the card, the noise floor and 
the lack of a zero frequency spur are important considerations.
Look at the LP-Pan Yahoo Group for a lot of comments.

If your soundcard will be used for digital modes only, then you do not 
need a 'top of the line' soundcard, most any will do.
But the LP-Pan website can still be an assist in selecting one - look at 
the noise level on the various cards to find the better ones for 
soundcard digital mode use.  The internal soundcard in your computer may 
prove to be adequate, but turn off the sounds generated by your OS if 
you use the internal card so you do not transmit those sounds.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/6/2016 5:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:
> I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
> Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
> recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:
>

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Don Wilhelm]

Tom,
Tom,

If you want to use the soundcard for panadapter applications, then go 
with the recommendations on the LP-Pan site, but there are several users 
that have been reporting that the ASUS U7 reverts to 48k and there does 
not seem to be a solution.  The ASUS U5 does not seem to share that 
problem.  In addition to the bandwidth of the card, the noise floor and 
the lack of a zero frequency spur are important considerations.

Look at the LP-Pan Yahoo Group for a lot of comments.

If your soundcard will be used for digital modes only, then you do not 
need a 'top of the line' soundcard, most any will do.
But the LP-Pan website can still be an assist in selecting one - look at 
the noise level on the various cards to find the better ones for 
soundcard digital mode use.  The internal soundcard in your computer may 
prove to be adequate, but turn off the sounds generated by your OS if 
you use the internal card so you do not transmit those sounds.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/6/2016 5:51 PM, Tom Field wrote:

I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:



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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Robert Nobis]

Tom, 

You might wish to review Jim Brown’s (9YC) Tutorial on USB Audio Interfaces.  
Go to http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
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> On Mar 6, 2016, at 15:51, Tom Field  wrote:
> 
> I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
> Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
> recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:
> 
> Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Barry LaZar]

Tom,

I use the Steinberg UR22. It seems to work well for me.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound 
cards. Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the 
group’s recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and 
KkX3:


Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Joel Black]

Tom,

For many years, I used a Creative Labs E-MU 0204. The last time drivers were 
written for that interface was late 2014 and it is no longer in production. 
When I upgraded to OS X 10.11, I could not use the interface because of some 
changes in OS X. I purchased a Focusrite 2i2 and cannot be happier (unless I 
had purchased the Focusrite 6i6 for more I/O). I regularly decode JT65 and JT9 
in the mid -20s. I have had at least one JT9 decode at -27 using the Focusrite.

The 2i2 is available from most online big-box places for right around $150. All 
you will need to purchase the appropriate cables. With both the K3 (I know you 
said K2) and KX3, I use a 3.5 mm TRS to 1/4” T and R mono from radio out and a 
3.5 mm to 1/4” mono to radio input. The Focusrite USB interfaces are red 
anodized aluminum and you can adjust both input from the radio and output to 
the radio with dials on the front. It also has a separate headphone stereo 
monitor that can be turned on and off with volume adjustment. The adjustments 
right on the front of the Focusrite make operation very easy.

73,
Joel - W4JBB


> On Mar 6, 2016, at 16:51, Tom Field  wrote:
> 
> I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
> Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
> recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:
> 
> Tom
> KN6DR
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[Elecraft] USB Sound Card

[Tom Field]

I’ve looked at the L-pan site and they recommend the ASUS USB sound cards. 
Reviews on Amazon and NewEgg are pretty negative. What are the group’s 
recommendations for a USB sound card interface with the K2 and KkX3:

Tom
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[Elecraft] USB sound card for KX3 I/Q

[Chris Meagher]

I'm considering what USB sound card to use for KX3 I/Q, for spectrum
display.
Interested in any recommendations. Anyone tried using Signalink USB?
Thanks,  Chris VK2ACD
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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card for KX3 I/Q

[Don Wilhelm]

Chris,

There is no sense even trying the SignaLink for that purpose.  You need 
a stereo soundcard, the SignaLink is mono (at least on the outside of 
the box, I am certain the sound IC is stereo, but it is just not wired)


See posts from yesterday for information about soundcards for that use..

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2013 4:23 PM, Chris Meagher wrote:

I'm considering what USB sound card to use for KX3 I/Q, for spectrum
display.
Interested in any recommendations. Anyone tried using Signalink USB?
Thanks,  Chris VK2ACD



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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card for KX3 I/Q

[Fred Smith]

Chris

Mine works great with the new hookup for the KX3 they just released on all
digital modes.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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I'm considering what USB sound card to use for KX3 I/Q, for spectrum
display.
Interested in any recommendations. Anyone tried using Signalink USB?
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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card for KX3 I/Q

[Mike WA8BXN]

A sound card for digital modes is mono and and bandwidth  10 Khz or so. For
I-Q data processing for spectrum display, stereo is required and much
greater bandwidth. Signal link USB is not usable for I-Q data. About
anything will work for digital modes. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Fred Smith 
Date: 6/25/2013 7:02:46 PM 
To: 'Chris Meagher'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB sound card for KX3 I/Q 
 
Chris 
 
Mine works great with the new hookup for the KX3 they just released on all 
digital modes. 
 
73, 
Fred/N0AZZ
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Phil Kane]

On 6/12/2013 10:33 PM, Mark Petiford wrote:
 Phil,
 
 No special drivers required.  I use Win7 64 bit and it works great.
 
 Try this:  Right click on the little speaker icon in the lower right
 corner of the screen and click on recording devices.  In the window
 that opens, right click on iMic Microphone USB audio system, and click
 on Properties.  In the window that opens, click on the levels tab and be
 sure the volume is turned up and the button on the right says it is
 enabled.  

That did it!  The step that I missed - and it's not in any of the help
dialogs -  was the right-click on the iMic Microphone USB audio system
area, and when I got to the Properties, the slider was all the way off.
 Problem solved - now to make sure that the app (MixW) works like it did
in XP.

With thanks to all who responded.  I'll save my next problem for another
time... G

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Richard Fjeld]

Phil,

It looks like I can't play audio through my iMic using Win7 either.  

I got a good indicator that my boom Mic was being heard when I selected 
'recording devices' and made the iMic mic the default device.  (I need to try 
to record a file and play it back.)

But first, I can't hear any sound in my headset.  It is the same headset I use 
for digital voice and the iMic with my XP computer.  I see the volume 
indicators moving up to max in the 'volume mixer' as I play a music file, but 
no sound using the iMic.
I tried various things to no avail.

Dick, n0ce


  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Kane 
  To: Richard Fjeld 
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7


  On 6/12/2013 9:55 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

   I did not try putting audio through it.  I just installed it.

  It installs OK - at least the PlugnPlay sees it.

   I assume you have tried the Hi-Low switch.  Also, have you looked at
   your slider controls for the iMic.  (right click on speaker icon, and
   then volume control options)

  Tried them all.  No audio.  == K2ASP

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Richard Fjeld]

Mark,

I have followed your instructions, and I agree with you on all.  

But I am at this point; I right click on the speaker icon, then click on 
'playback devices'. I have iMic selected as default device under speakers.  
When I play a music file, I see the level indicator at the far right following 
the music volume, but no sound.  (My headset and iMic work fine on my XP 
computer)  I wonder what I have overlooked.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Petiford 
  To: Phil Kane ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7


  Phil,

  No special drivers required. I use Win7 64 bit and it works great.

  Try this: Right click on the little speaker icon in the lower right corner of 
the screen and click on recording devices. In the window that opens, right 
click on iMic Microphone USB audio system, and click on Properties. In the 
window that opens, click on the levels tab and be sure the volume is turned up 
and the button on the right says it is enabled. You may need to experiment with 
the volume slider vs. the MIC/Line switch in the iMic. I usually keep it on 
Line, and the volume slider at about 50%. When I turn the volume up to about 20 
on the KX3, I get a good waterfall display. 

  I have been using an iMic for years, and once I make sure it is enabled and 
the volume is turned up, it works great for either I/Q or as an input to 
digital mode software (I use FLDIGI) input. Keep in mind that sometimes, other 
software will change your settings, so you have to check them again if it 
suddenly seems to stop working. If you want to use its output as an input to 
the MIC jack on the KX3, you will have to go thru a similar setup for the iMic 
Speakers.

  I think this little USB Soundcard is one of the best buys I have made. When I 
first got it, I too had problems setting it up, but I was simply making it more 
complicated than it needed to be. I really think it is easier under Win7 than 
XP because everything can be selected starting with a right click on the little 
speaker icon. It all starts there. No reason to open volume controls and figure 
out which menu you need to use next.

  Hope this helps.

  Mark
  KE6BB



  
   From: Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7
   

  On 6/12/2013 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

   In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
   device is not compatible.
   
   Huh? iMic should be supported as USB Audio CODEC (the standard USB
   Audio Class Device).

  That's what baffles me. The system appears to load the above driver,
  but no audio gets through. Taking the device and plugging it into a
  WinXP machine - audio gets through. The manufacturer's site says that
  the device is not compatible with Vista so I suspect that it is not
  compatible with Win7 'as is.

  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
  Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 That's what baffles me.  The system appears to load the above driver,
 but no audio gets through.  Taking the device and plugging it into a
 WinXP machine - audio gets through.

Have you opened the Sound Control Panel, selected Recording Devices
then selected the iMic, opened the Levels tab and made sure it was
not muted?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/13/2013 12:39 AM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 6/12/2013 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
device is not compatible.


Huh?  iMic should be supported as USB Audio CODEC (the standard USB
Audio Class Device).


That's what baffles me.  The system appears to load the above driver,
but no audio gets through.  Taking the device and plugging it into a
WinXP machine - audio gets through.  The manufacturer's site says that
the device is not compatible with Vista so I suspect that it is not
compatible with Win7 'as is.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402


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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Mark Petiford]

Dick,

You are almost there.  It appears you got through steps 1 and 2, but you also 
need to do steps 3, 4,and 5 below:

1. Right click on the speaker icon on the lower right of the screen and select 
Playback Devices.
2. The Sound window will open.  Be sure the Playback tab is selected.  This is 
where you can select the default device.  More on that below.
3. Right click on Speakers iMac USB Audio System and select Properties in the 
dropdown menu.

4. The Speaker Properties window will open, select the Levels tab in that 
window.
5. Be sure the Speakers slider is set to something greater than zero, and be 
sure the little speaker icon is not muted.  You can leave this window open 
while you try to play a file; however, be sure to click on OK once the volume 
is set correctly.


Be sure you have the headphones plugged into the Out jack of the iMac.  Of 
course, I never make mistakes like that. ;-)


If you are simply playing a file back, you must have the iMac selected as the 
default device in the Sound window, item 2 above.  That tells your PC to send 
the digital sound (music) to that device, unless you tell a specific program 
otherwise.  You do not need for it to be the default device if you are setting 
it up to work with a program such as FLDIGI.  You will tell that program to 
send data to that device.  In fact, you probably don't want it to be the 
default device so you can prevent Windows from sending your music, and every 
other beep and blurp that Windows makes, out over the air!  That is one big 
advantage of using a separate soundcard for digital modes.

Hope this helps.

Mark

KE6BB




 From: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com
To: Mark Petiford rv6am...@yahoo.com; Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7
 


 
Mark,
 
I have followed your instructions, and I agree with you 
on all.  
 
But I am at this point; I right click on the speaker 
icon, then click on 'playback devices'. I have iMic selected as default device 
under speakers.  When I play a music file, I see the level indicator at the 
far right following the music volume, but no sound.  (My headset and 
iMic work fine on my XP computer)  I wonder what I have 
overlooked.
 
Dick, n0ce
 
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Petiford 
To: Phil Kane ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:33  AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card  for Win7

Phil,

No special drivers required. I use Win7 64 bit and 
  it works great.

Try this: Right click on the little speaker icon in the 
  lower right corner of the screen and click on recording devices. In the 
  window that opens, right click on iMic Microphone USB audio system, and 
  click on Properties. In the window that opens, click on the levels tab and be 
  sure the volume is turned up and the button on the right says it is enabled. 
  You may need to experiment with the volume slider vs. the MIC/Line switch in 
  the iMic. I usually keep it on Line, and the volume slider at about 50%. When 
  I turn the volume up to about 20 on the KX3, I get a good waterfall display. 

I have been using an iMic for years, and once I make sure it is 
  enabled and the volume is turned up, it works great for either I/Q or as an 
  input to digital mode software (I use FLDIGI) input. Keep in mind that 
  sometimes, other software will change your settings, so you have to check 
them 
  again if it suddenly seems to stop working. If you want to use its output as 
  an input to the MIC jack on the KX3, you will have to go thru a similar setup 
  for the iMic Speakers.

I think this little USB Soundcard is one of 
  the best buys I have made. When I first got it, I too had problems setting it 
  up, but I was simply making it more complicated than it needed to be. I 
really 
  think it is easier under Win7 than XP because everything can be selected 
  starting with a right click on the little speaker icon. It all starts there. 
  No reason to open volume controls and figure out which menu you need to use 
  next.

Hope this 
  helps.

Mark
KE6BB



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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Richard Fjeld]

Thanks to those who answered my post about using iMic on Win7.  First let me 
say I tried all the things suggested with no luck.  I never found anything 
muted or disabled.

At first, nothing, then I could play sounds, but no music.  It seemed that it 
began working after I used Quickmix to load iMic.  (Actually, it showed USB 
audio device.)

**I noticed I now had a volume slider for Windows Media Player which I did not 
have before. I now could play music. The slider can be seen by right clicking 
the speaker icon, and then selecting 'open volume mixer'. 

I had trouble using Quickmix on Win7 when I first tried it several months ago.  
I wish I could remember what the fix was.  (Maybe later.)  Quickmix has been 
working fine and is a handy utility.

Thanks for your help.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Petiford 
  To: Richard Fjeld ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7


  Dick,

  You are almost there.  It appears you got through steps 1 and 2, but you also 
need to do steps 3, 4,and 5 below:

  1. Right click on the speaker icon on the lower right of the screen and 
select Playback Devices.
  2. The Sound window will open.  Be sure the Playback tab is selected.  This 
is where you can select the default device.  More on that below.
  3. Right click on Speakers iMac USB Audio System and select Properties in the 
dropdown menu.

  4. The Speaker Properties window will open, select the Levels tab in that 
window.
  5. Be sure the Speakers slider is set to something greater than zero, and be 
sure the little speaker icon is not muted.  You can leave this window open 
while you try to play a file; however, be sure to click on OK once the volume 
is set correctly.



  Be sure you have the headphones plugged into the Out jack of the iMac.  Of 
course, I never make mistakes like that. ;-)



  If you are simply playing a file back, you must have the iMac selected as the 
default device in the Sound window, item 2 above.  That tells your PC to send 
the digital sound (music) to that device, unless you tell a specific program 
otherwise.  You do not need for it to be the default device if you are setting 
it up to work with a program such as FLDIGI.  You will tell that program to 
send data to that device.  In fact, you probably don't want it to be the 
default device so you can prevent Windows from sending your music, and every 
other beep and blurp that Windows makes, out over the air!  That is one big 
advantage of using a separate soundcard for digital modes.


  Hope this helps.


  Mark

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[Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Phil Kane]

I'm sure that this has come up before so please bear with me.

In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
device is not compatible.  I would appreciate input from those here who
have had this problem and have found a workaround.  At least my iOgear
GUC232 USB-to-serial converter works well.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Mike WA8BXN]

 
Phil, 
 
I have had no problem with the Griffin imic USB sound interface with windows
7. It was just plug and play. In particular used it to get KX3 IQ audio into
a couple of computers. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Phil Kane 
Date: 06/12/13 23:58:06 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7 
 
I'm sure that this has come up before so please bear with me. 
 
In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard 
device is not compatible. I would appreciate input from those here who 
have had this problem and have found a workaround. At least my iOgear 
GUC232 USB-to-serial converter works well. 
 
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Matt Zilmer]

I'd suggest you figure out the chipset used in the iMic, then go to
the chipset manufacturer's web site and download the drivers for Win7.
Usually, this is the Best Way(tm).

I recently updated this machine to Win7-64, and had to dig drivers out
from under a lot of rocks.  For integrated devices, the Samsung web
support page was helpful.  But for outboard, you'd want to address the
issue with the manufacturer of the external devices.  Generally, this
comes down to the chipset used.  The iMic manufacturer should have a
handle on this too, but I suspect that's the first place you looked.

Win7-32 and -64 have been around long enough now that locating drivers
and support software / utilities should be do-able, albeit a pain in
the neck sometimes.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:57:56 -0700, you wrote:

I'm sure that this has come up before so please bear with me.

In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
device is not compatible.  I would appreciate input from those here who
have had this problem and have found a workaround.  At least my iOgear
GUC232 USB-to-serial converter works well.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
 device is not compatible.

Huh?  iMic should be supported as USB Audio CODEC (the standard USB
Audio Class Device).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/12/2013 11:57 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

I'm sure that this has come up before so please bear with me.

In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
device is not compatible.  I would appreciate input from those here who
have had this problem and have found a workaround.  At least my iOgear
GUC232 USB-to-serial converter works well.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402


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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Richard Fjeld]

I was curious, so I took the iMic from my XP machine and installed in on my 
Win7.  It did so just fine.  Good luck.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Kane 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:57 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7


  I'm sure that this has come up before so please bear with me.

  In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
  device is not compatible.  I would appreciate input from those here who
  have had this problem and have found a workaround.  At least my iOgear
  GUC232 USB-to-serial converter works well.

  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
  Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Phil Kane]

On 6/12/2013 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
 device is not compatible.
 
 Huh?  iMic should be supported as USB Audio CODEC (the standard USB
 Audio Class Device).

That's what baffles me.  The system appears to load the above driver,
but no audio gets through.  Taking the device and plugging it into a
WinXP machine - audio gets through.  The manufacturer's site says that
the device is not compatible with Vista so I suspect that it is not
compatible with Win7 'as is.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7

[Mark Petiford]

Phil,

No special drivers required.  I use Win7 64 bit and it works great.

Try this:  Right click on the little speaker icon in the lower right corner of 
the screen and click on recording devices.  In the window that opens, right 
click on iMic Microphone USB audio system, and click on Properties.  In the 
window that opens, click on the levels tab and be sure the volume is turned up 
and the button on the right says it is enabled.  You may need to experiment 
with the volume slider vs. the MIC/Line switch in the iMic.  I usually keep it 
on Line, and the volume slider at about 50%.  When I turn the volume up to 
about 20 on the KX3, I get a good waterfall display. 

I have been using an iMic for years, and once I make sure it is enabled and the 
volume is turned up, it works great for either I/Q or as an input to digital 
mode software (I use FLDIGI) input.  Keep in mind that sometimes, other 
software will change your settings, so you have to check them again if it 
suddenly seems to stop working.  If you want to use its output as an input to 
the MIC jack on the KX3, you will have to go thru a similar setup for the iMic 
Speakers.

I think this little USB Soundcard is one of the best buys I have made.  When I 
first got it, I too had problems setting it up, but I was simply making it more 
complicated than it needed to be.  I really think it is easier under Win7 than 
XP because everything can be selected starting with a right click on the little 
speaker icon.  It all starts there.  No reason to open volume controls and 
figure out which menu you need to use next.

Hope this helps.

Mark
KE6BB




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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for Win7
 

On 6/12/2013 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 In setting up my new Win7 computer I find that my iMic USB soundcard
 device is not compatible.
 
 Huh?  iMic should be supported as USB Audio CODEC (the standard USB
 Audio Class Device).

That's what baffles me.  The system appears to load the above driver,
but no audio gets through.  Taking the device and plugging it into a
WinXP machine - audio gets through.  The manufacturer's site says that
the device is not compatible with Vista so I suspect that it is not
compatible with Win7 'as is.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Kenneth A. Christiansen]

Rich told me he was having trouble sending this to the reflector but it is
such valuable advice and works so well I want to share it with the group.
I find even the DUPE warnings now come on the main computer speaker even 
while sending PSK31 on the USB sound card. My IMD meter reads -29 to -33 
so that is working well and my water fall looks just perfect like I have
not seen since back when I ran Windows 98 Second Edition. Thanks again to
everyone that helped me. I hope to work you in some of the upcoming 
contests.
73
Ken W0CZ
Rich's direction follow

Ken

In windows Vista and 7, I set the main sound card as the default soundcard.
It can also be done in XP but is a PITA.  Then in HRD or MIXW2, select the
correct sound device.  With Vista you are stuck with the volume settings you
had as only the default sound card volume sliders show up, but I found this
workable.  To change in Vista you need to make the sound card for the rig
default to change volume settings, they will not link to mix unless default,
(I set mine for mid range and then did the rest from the rig) Once you get
the proper volume setting make the main sound card default and all should
work (don't forget to reset the settings in MixW if changed.)  I did not
have to do this with Windows 7, as the slider is visible for all sound
devices. 

Make sure that the sound card for the rig is not set as the default Sound
card. It appears to me that Windows 7 can have two (or more?) default sound
cards. This can be done from control panel/sound/...  I do not recall this
in Vista or XP.  MIXW and HRD will see the sound card even though it is not
default, but you must select it manually as it will go the default
otherwise. Only need to do this once unless you change cards.  For MIXW go
to Configure/Sound device settings, then select the correct soundcard in the
top three windows.  HRD can be changed similarly.


Rich



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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 In windows Vista and 7, I set the main sound card as the 
 default soundcard. It can also be done in XP but is a PITA. 

It is not difficult in XP: 

   Right click on the Speaker icon in the Taskbar 
   Select Adjust Audio Properties 
   Select the Audio tab 
   Set the default for Sound playback and click apply 
   Set the default for Sound recording and click apply 

    Done ... 

 With Vista you are stuck with the volume settings you had 
 as only the default sound card volume sliders show up, but 
 I found this workable.

Again, the information is absolutely incorrect.  In Vista: 

  right click on the Speaker icon in the Taskbar 
  Select Open Volume Mixer 
  Select Device in the menu bar 
  Select the other soundcard 

  You now have mixer controls for the non-default card 
  being used for amateur/digital software.  The mixer will 
  show a master volume control for the device (speakers) 
  and volume controls for each application that is using 
  the card.  Each application can be set to any value from 
  zero to the maximum set by the master 

For setting INPUT levels in Vista: 

  right click on the speaker icon
  select Recording Devices 
  double click on the desired input 
  select the levels tab 
  adjust the level (and balance if appropriate) 

In short, configuring default inputs/output and setting levels 
are quite simple in either XP or Vista/Windows 7. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
   




 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
 Kenneth A. Christiansen
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:15 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.
 
 
 Rich told me he was having trouble sending this to the 
 reflector but it is such valuable advice and works so well I 
 want to share it with the group. I find even the DUPE 
 warnings now come on the main computer speaker even 
 while sending PSK31 on the USB sound card. My IMD meter reads 
 -29 to -33 
 so that is working well and my water fall looks just perfect 
 like I have not seen since back when I ran Windows 98 Second 
 Edition. Thanks again to everyone that helped me. I hope to 
 work you in some of the upcoming 
 contests.
 73
 Ken W0CZ
 Rich's direction follow
 
 Ken
 
 In windows Vista and 7, I set the main sound card as the 
 default soundcard. It can also be done in XP but is a PITA.  
 Then in HRD or MIXW2, select the correct sound device.  With 
 Vista you are stuck with the volume settings you had as only 
 the default sound card volume sliders show up, but I found 
 this workable.  To change in Vista you need to make the sound 
 card for the rig default to change volume settings, they will 
 not link to mix unless default, (I set mine for mid range and 
 then did the rest from the rig) Once you get the proper 
 volume setting make the main sound card default and all 
 should work (don't forget to reset the settings in MixW if 
 changed.)  I did not have to do this with Windows 7, as the 
 slider is visible for all sound devices. 
 
 Make sure that the sound card for the rig is not set as the 
 default Sound card. It appears to me that Windows 7 can 
 have two (or more?) default sound cards. This can be done 
 from control panel/sound/...  I do not recall this in Vista 
 or XP.  MIXW and HRD will see the sound card even though it 
 is not default, but you must select it manually as it will go 
 the default otherwise. Only need to do this once unless you 
 change cards.  For MIXW go to Configure/Sound device 
 settings, then select the correct soundcard in the top three 
 windows.  HRD can be changed similarly.
 
 
 Rich
 



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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Rich]

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 
 In windows Vista and 7, I set the main sound card as the 
 default soundcard. It can also be done in XP but is a PITA. 
 
 It is not difficult in XP: 
 
Right click on the Speaker icon in the Taskbar 
Select Adjust Audio Properties 
Select the Audio tab 
Set the default for Sound playback and click apply 
Set the default for Sound recording and click apply 
 
 
 
 Rich _
 
 The first time I Added my extra sound card it was set as default
 automatically by windows XP and even though the original sound card was
 still in and active the controls for the card were not visable on  either
 record or playback.  I no longer remember what I did to get them to showup
 and to set the extra as not default, but it took several days.  I do
 remember playing with some not-so-obvious menu selections with advice from
 a friend and avid game player that has several sound cards installed.
 
 Done ... 
 
   Rich
 
 With Vista you are stuck with the volume settings you had 
 as only the default sound card volume sliders show up, but 
 I found this workable.
 
 Again, the information is absolutely incorrect.  In Vista: 
 
   right click on the Speaker icon in the Taskbar 
   Select Open Volume Mixer 
   Select Device in the menu bar 
   Select the other soundcard 
 
   You now have mixer controls for the non-default card 
   being used for amateur/digital software.  The mixer will 
   show a master volume control for the device (speakers) 
   and volume controls for each application that is using 
   the card.  Each application can be set to any value from 
   zero to the maximum set by the master 
 
 For setting INPUT levels in Vista: 
 
   right click on the speaker icon
   select Recording Devices 
   double click on the desired input 
   select the levels tab 
   adjust the level (and balance if appropriate) 
 
 In short, configuring default inputs/output and setting levels 
 are quite simple in either XP or Vista/Windows 7. 
 
 Rich ___
 
 
 I don't know what version of Vista OR MixW2 that Joe has BUT when I click
 on the Configure/Output Volume or Configure/Input Volume in or from the
 MixW2 menu to adjust these -- IT does nothing. Unless I have the Windows
 Defult sound card selected in MixW2.  When I have made the soundcard that
 MixW2 is using as not defualt it will not bring up the sliders.  Yes, you
 can do all the above and get to the sliders and adjuist the volume, and
 that is what I told him to do.  Does the same in Vista Ultimate and Home
 Premium. In windows XP the Mixer is opened, either record for input or
 Playback for output when you click on these.  I just tried this in Windows
 7 and it also appears to do the same in Windows 7 - i.e. it will not pull
 up the mixer from MixW2 ( Did not try with the other soundcard as
 default.)
 
 
 ___  Rich
 
 
 
 73, 
 
... Joe, W4TV 

 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
 Kenneth A. Christiansen
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:15 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.
 
 
 Rich told me he was having trouble sending this to the 
 reflector but it is such valuable advice and works so well I 
 want to share it with the group. I find even the DUPE 
 warnings now come on the main computer speaker even 
 while sending PSK31 on the USB sound card. My IMD meter reads 
 -29 to -33 
 so that is working well and my water fall looks just perfect 
 like I have not seen since back when I ran Windows 98 Second 
 Edition. Thanks again to everyone that helped me. I hope to 
 work you in some of the upcoming 
 contests.
 73
 Ken W0CZ
 Rich's direction follow
 
 Ken
 
 In windows Vista and 7, I set the main sound card as the 
 default soundcard. It can also be done in XP but is a PITA.  
 Then in HRD or MIXW2, select the correct sound device.  With 
 Vista you are stuck with the volume settings you had as only 
 the default sound card volume sliders show up, but I found 
 this workable.  To change in Vista you need to make the sound 
 card for the rig default to change volume settings, they will 
 not link to mix unless default, (I set mine for mid range and 
 then did the rest from the rig) Once you get the proper 
 volume setting make the main sound card default and all 
 should work (don't forget to reset the settings in MixW if 
 changed.)  I did not have to do this with Windows 7, as the 
 slider is visible for all sound devices. 
 
 Make sure that the sound card for the rig is not set as the 
 default Sound card. It appears to me that Windows 7 can 
 have two (or more?) default sound cards. This can be done 
 from control panel/sound/...  I do not recall this in Vista 
 or XP.  MIXW and HRD

[Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Kenneth A. Christiansen]

Hi from Ken

I put Windows7 on my computer and for the most part everything is 
working well but now I got around to using PSK31 and have a problem. The 
waterfall will show a signal for just a couple of seconds but then the 
signal goes away. I thought I had it fixed by turning off the noise 
reduction feature in Windows7 but now as I try to use it I notice that 
the signal input drops off just as though there is an auto gain feature 
that holds the audio too low for the digital programs to work properly. 
I can increase the gain in either the computer or the K3 but after about 
2 seconds the gain drops off.

My question is what USB sound card works best and if I change to a USB 
sound card will it work the way the old Windows sound cards worked or 
will I still be up against the new AGC action.

Thanks in advance for any advice I get.

73
Ken W0CZ
w...@i29.net

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Julian, G4ILO]

Kenneth A. Christiansen-2 wrote:
 
 I put Windows7 on my computer 
 

Bad move. I plan on keeping XP going as long as possible.



 My question is what USB sound card works best and if I change to a USB 
 sound card will it work the way the old Windows sound cards worked or 
 will I still be up against the new AGC action.
 

A solution that would definitely avoid any hassle caused by generic sound
card drivers would be a dedicated ham radio interface such as a SignalLink.


-
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* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Dick Williams]

I am using Windows 7 and use the US Interface NAVIGATOR.  It has a built in
soundcard tailored for digital modes; additionally, the drivers work with
Windows 7.  What is nice with any of the external USB interfaces is you only
need one cable to your computer (USB).  All the other connections are
between the radio and the interface.

Dick  K8ZTT

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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:26 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.




Kenneth A. Christiansen-2 wrote:
 
 I put Windows7 on my computer 
 

Bad move. I plan on keeping XP going as long as possible.



 My question is what USB sound card works best and if I change to a USB 
 sound card will it work the way the old Windows sound cards worked or 
 will I still be up against the new AGC action.
 

A solution that would definitely avoid any hassle caused by generic sound
card drivers would be a dedicated ham radio interface such as a SignalLink.


-
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* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

There is no problem with any well designed USB soundcard. 
You will need to open the Windows 7 mixer (right click the 
speaker icon) and set the correct properties for that 
soundcard recording mixer.  It may also be necessary to 
open the recording devices and set he properties for the 
device you use.  

Vista and Windows 7 operate the same way ... they no longer 
allow an application to have master control over a sound 
device.  

Don't be fooled other advice to use an amateur specific 
device.  All of the low cost devices use variations of the 
same chip (TI PCM29xx) and all use the generic USB Sound 
driver (USB Audio CODEC) built into the operating system. 
 
There are plenty of reasons to use a dedicated USB sound 
device for amateur operations.  Some designed specifically 
for amateur use have good operational enhancements and a very 
few take special care with low noise inputs but the drivers 
are all bog standard with Windows. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
 Kenneth A. Christiansen
 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:05 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.
 
 
 Hi from Ken
 
 I put Windows7 on my computer and for the most part everything is 
 working well but now I got around to using PSK31 and have a 
 problem. The 
 waterfall will show a signal for just a couple of seconds but 
 then the 
 signal goes away. I thought I had it fixed by turning off the noise 
 reduction feature in Windows7 but now as I try to use it I 
 notice that 
 the signal input drops off just as though there is an auto 
 gain feature 
 that holds the audio too low for the digital programs to work 
 properly. 
 I can increase the gain in either the computer or the K3 but 
 after about 
 2 seconds the gain drops off.
 
 My question is what USB sound card works best and if I change 
 to a USB 
 sound card will it work the way the old Windows sound cards worked or 
 will I still be up against the new AGC action.
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice I get.
 
 73
 Ken W0CZ
 w...@i29.net
 
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[Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Kenneth A. Christiansen]

Hi. to the group.
Thanks to the several people that sent me hints about my problems. I put 
several of the letters together and came up with a solution that works 
well for me.
 I bought the Creative Sound Blaster X-FI-GP SB1100 and it is now 
working just like I was used to before the Windows7 upgrade. I was able 
to make it work by plugging it directly into the lap top but I was short 
of USB ports so I plugged it into the USB hub and had to find my unused  
USB hub power supply to have enough power to make it work there. I have 
the keyboard, mouse, K3 and the Sound Blaster all connected to the hub. 
I also had to replace the KUSB with another USB to serial coverter as 
the KUSB still worked on one Windows 7 computer but not on this main 
one. It would key the rig instead of polling the rig about once a 
second. I reloaded the operating system and it lasted about 2 hours and 
started giving me the same trouble again. So far the new USB to serial 
card is not giving me any trouble.

Thanks for you help.
73
Ken w0cz
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[Mike]

I've had more problems with USB hubs than with any of the adapters.

I'm looking for another one now.

73, Mike NF4L

Kenneth A. Christiansen wrote:
 Hi. to the group.
 Thanks to the several people that sent me hints about my problems. I put 
 several of the letters together and came up with a solution that works 
 well for me.
  I bought the Creative Sound Blaster X-FI-GP SB1100 and it is now 
 working just like I was used to before the Windows7 upgrade. I was able 
 to make it work by plugging it directly into the lap top but I was short 
 of USB ports so I plugged it into the USB hub and had to find my unused  
 USB hub power supply to have enough power to make it work there. I have 
 the keyboard, mouse, K3 and the Sound Blaster all connected to the hub. 
 I also had to replace the KUSB with another USB to serial coverter as 
 the KUSB still worked on one Windows 7 computer but not on this main 
 one. It would key the rig instead of polling the rig about once a 
 second. I reloaded the operating system and it lasted about 2 hours and 
 started giving me the same trouble again. So far the new USB to serial 
 card is not giving me any trouble.

 Thanks for you help.
 73
 Ken w0cz
 w...@i29.net
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Sound Card for digital modes.

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Kenneth A. Christiansen wrote:
 
 I put Windows7 on my computer and for the most part everything is 
 working well but now I got around to using PSK31 and have a problem. The 
 waterfall will show a signal for just a couple of seconds but then the 
 signal goes away. I thought I had it fixed by turning off the noise 
 reduction feature in Windows7 but now as I try to use it I notice that 
 the signal input drops off just as though there is an auto gain feature 

The purpose of cheap USB sound adaptors is to support voice over IP from 
naive users, so AGC is very likely.  However, have you tried using the 
mixer control, as you may find that there is a tick box to disable the AGC.

 that holds the audio too low for the digital programs to work properly. 
 I can increase the gain in either the computer or the K3 but after about 
 2 seconds the gain drops off.
 

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