RE: [Elecraft] KSB2 Problem: Big attenuation of received signals SOLVED

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Meier
Thanks for the suggestions.  I followed them all.  I
found some 27 AWG red enamel wire and re-wound RFC1 
2, and I believe this is what fixed my problem.  The
enamel on the wire that came with the KSB2 kit, seemed
to shear off with the sharp edges of the toroid cores,
and this may have been causing a short to the crystal
can.  The new wire seemed to be a little thinner, even
though it was smaller guage (27 vs. 28 - go figure),
and the enamel seemed to stay on it a little better. 
Perhaps the enamel on the new wire was thinner.

The KSB2 option is now installed, aligned, and
working!

Thanks,
-Andrew KF7HB

--- Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The problem is that the receiver became very
 quiet. I
  could still hear the strongest signals if I turn
 the
  AF Gain way up, and instead of S9 on the meter,
  they're way down to S1. The KSB2 manual
 specifically
  states (page 15, final step of initial test)
 this
  should not happen, and if it does, to go to the
 troubleshooting 
  section. 
 
 
 Andrew: Don's suggestions are right on track. I have
 one to add, assuming
 this is a new build. Check for d-c continuity from
 each pin of each crystal
 to ground. It should be an open circuit for d-c. If
 not then most likely you
 used enough solder to form a small fillet around the
 pad. On the crystal
 side of the pad, the fillet easily shorts the signal
 path to the crystal
 case and so to ground. 
 
 If so, then remove the crystal involved, clean off
 the solder, the carefully
 replace it, using a minimum of solder. (Note that
 you have jumpers across a
 couple of capacitor locations, so a short there will
 require that you open
 the jumper to see which crystal is involved). 
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
 
 
 



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RE: [Elecraft] KSB2 Problem: Big attenuation of received signals

2005-04-15 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Andrew,

Plug the KSB2 in again and be certain that it is properly positioned on the
headers.  It is easy to misplug the KSB2 - if you see the standoff and TP2
properly aligned with the holes in the SSB board, it probably is mounted
correctly.

As a check (but not a permanent fix) slide a small sheet of paper between
RFC1 and RFC2 and the adjacent crystal cans.  That is a quick check of
whether or not the windings of the chokes are shorting to the crystals - if
they are, rewind the chokes being careful not to scrape the insulation on
the wire.

Check the orientation of the diodes - all of them should have the banded end
away from the board.

Lastly (or maybe best doen first) check the soldering carefully,
particularly in the crystal filter area.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 The problem is that the receiver became very quiet. I
 could still hear the strongest signals if I turn the
 AF Gain way up, and instead of S9 on the meter,
 they're way down to S1. The KSB2 manual specifically
 states (page 15, final step of initial test) this
 should not happen, and if it does, to go to the
 troubleshooting section.  I confirmed about half of
 the DC measurements in the troubleshooting section. I
 noticed when I jiggle around RFC2 I get some noise in
 the receiver, and those little RFC1  2 toroids on the
 KSB board were a challenge to wind, so I'm wondering
 if I have a problem there.




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Re: [Elecraft] KSB2 Problem: Big attenuation of received signals

2005-04-15 Thread Vic Rosenthal

Andrew Meier wrote:


 I
noticed when I jiggle around RFC2 I get some noise in
the receiver, and those little RFC1  2 toroids on the
KSB board were a challenge to wind, so I'm wondering
if I have a problem there. 


Be sure to check for PTTL (Poorly Tinned Toroid Leads).

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

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RE: [Elecraft] KSB2 Problem: Big attenuation of received signals

2005-04-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
 The problem is that the receiver became very quiet. I
 could still hear the strongest signals if I turn the
 AF Gain way up, and instead of S9 on the meter,
 they're way down to S1. The KSB2 manual specifically
 states (page 15, final step of initial test) this
 should not happen, and if it does, to go to the troubleshooting 
 section. 


Andrew: Don's suggestions are right on track. I have one to add, assuming
this is a new build. Check for d-c continuity from each pin of each crystal
to ground. It should be an open circuit for d-c. If not then most likely you
used enough solder to form a small fillet around the pad. On the crystal
side of the pad, the fillet easily shorts the signal path to the crystal
case and so to ground. 

If so, then remove the crystal involved, clean off the solder, the carefully
replace it, using a minimum of solder. (Note that you have jumpers across a
couple of capacitor locations, so a short there will require that you open
the jumper to see which crystal is involved). 

Ron AC7AC



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