Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Björn and Alexandr, This is not only important on UHF and above... It is important on VHF as well! Granted nobody cares about this on HF, but 6m and above, it is tremendously useful -- one could even say crucial. Björn, you described the FT-897 capabilities very well, and that's exactly how the K3 should implement this. The FT-897 is the gold-standard model for how this should be done, and all the VHF/UHF ops I've talked with about it agree. I had extensive email correspondence with the K3 design team early on, lobbying for implementation of this feature, and I was assured it will be forthcoming. This feature is addressed in the FAQ, which says, These features will not be in the initial firmware release, but should be available in the second release. Exact functionality TBD. I don't think anybody knows what this means. I sure don't. What is the second release? Haven't there been many, many releases so far? Or does this mean v2.xx? If so, when is that going to happen? Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. Bill W5WVO Rio Rancho, NM (DM65) Alexandr Kobranov wrote: Yes, Bjorn, it is marginal but when you plan to replace all 897 around used as I/F for microwaves... :-) Seriously - I know several other mostly UHF/SHF contesters - this is iportant function for them -- and they did not sent order for K3 yet ;-) 73! L. -dst- Björn Mohr napsal(a): This is something I liked with my FT-897, I think it is a good idea but probably not the highest prio on my list. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG On 080223 12:41 , Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, is there some support for request for AUTO CW ON/OFF firmware function as some rigs are having (FT-897)? It means SSB mode choosed, RX in SSB mode normally but when Key is activated (touched for CW sending) there is automatic shift of carrier and CW is transmitted (as in standard CW mode, SEMI or FULL-BK etc.) then going back to SSB mode for RX. Hope you understand :-) This is very useful during UHF/SHF contests (with transverters) when calling CW CQ but takers are calling in SSB (mostly or very often). No need for switching mode (you have SSB all the time) and to touch dial knob to reply etc. Very comfortable and (I hope) not so serious for firmware. I know this is very special and on HF bands there is probably no reason for such function, my experience is based on serious contesting on higher bands (1296 and up). If this is already somewhere inside and I missed something and my sorry for this Q. 73! Lexa, ok1dst K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Bill W5WVO wrote: Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. It would also be nice to know when we might see FM TX/RX available, CW-to-PSK31 actually working, the calibration option for the high stability TCXO, etc, etc. You guys aren't the only ones waiting for updates to make the K3 do what we thought it would in the first place. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-rev-1.69-firmware-tp15599154p15713395.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Bill Björn and Alexandr I agree with your sentiment, I indeed plan on using my K3 for 6 Meters and vhf/uhf weak signal operation. Hopefully they can implement this change before the Spring prior to E season and I get my K3 in March or April. 73 de Wp4o Ed Tampa,FL El 87 Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Björn and Alexandr, This is not only important on UHF and above... It is important on VHF as well! Granted nobody cares about this on HF, but 6m and above, it is tremendously useful -- one could even say crucial. Björn, you described the FT-897 capabilities very well, and that's exactly how the K3 should implement this. The FT-897 is the gold-standard model for how this should be done, and all the VHF/UHF ops I've talked with about it agree. I had extensive email correspondence with the K3 design team early on, lobbying for implementation of this feature, and I was assured it will be forthcoming. This feature is addressed in the FAQ, which says, These features will not be in the initial firmware release, but should be available in the second release. Exact functionality TBD. I don't think anybody knows what this means. I sure don't. What is the second release? Haven't there been many, many releases so far? Or does this mean v2.xx? If so, when is that going to happen? Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. Bill W5WVO Rio Rancho, NM (DM65) Alexandr Kobranov wrote: Yes, Bjorn, it is marginal but when you plan to replace all 897 around used as I/F for microwaves... :-) Seriously - I know several other mostly UHF/SHF contesters - this is iportant function for them -- and they did not sent order for K3 yet ;-) 73! L. -dst- Björn Mohr napsal(a): This is something I liked with my FT-897, I think it is a good idea but probably not the highest prio on my list. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG On 080223 12:41 , Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, is there some support for request for AUTO CW ON/OFF firmware function as some rigs are having (FT-897)? It means SSB mode choosed, RX in SSB mode normally but when Key is activated (touched for CW sending) there is automatic shift of carrier and CW is transmitted (as in standard CW mode, SEMI or FULL-BK etc.) then going back to SSB mode for RX. Hope you understand :-) This is very useful during UHF/SHF contests (with transverters) when calling CW CQ but takers are calling in SSB (mostly or very often). No need for switching mode (you have SSB all the time) and to touch dial knob to reply etc. Very comfortable and (I hope) not so serious for firmware. I know this is very special and on HF bands there is probably no reason for such function, my experience is based on serious contesting on higher bands (1296 and up). If this is already somewhere inside and I missed something and my sorry for this Q. 73! Lexa, ok1dst K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Come on guys, Elecraft is certainly busy enough getting the K3s out of the door. Think of others, not what I want. You can certainly work the VHF qso party without this feature. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function Bill W5WVO wrote: Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. It would also be nice to know when we might see FM TX/RX available, CW-to-PSK31 actually working, the calibration option for the high stability TCXO, etc, etc. You guys aren't the only ones waiting for updates to make the K3 do what we thought it would in the first place. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-rev-1.69-firmware-tp15599154p15713395.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
its not a matter of a qso party, its a matter of working weak signal dx! Ed WP4o Jim Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on guys, Elecraft is certainly busy enough getting the K3s out of the door. Think of others, not what I want. You can certainly work the VHF qso party without this feature. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function Bill W5WVO wrote: Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. It would also be nice to know when we might see FM TX/RX available, CW-to-PSK31 actually working, the calibration option for the high stability TCXO, etc, etc. You guys aren't the only ones waiting for updates to make the K3 do what we thought it would in the first place. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-rev-1.69-firmware-tp15599154p15713395.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 'Auto CW' function
I know nobody wants to hear this but I'm sure its something you already know. Elecraft cannot put a time stamp on when a new firmware release with updated features will be available. There is one persone who does MCU coding (Wayne) and one person who does DSP coding (Lyle). Right now their efforts are still focused on the sub receiver. As time allows and becomes available Wayne works on coding, often till the wee hours of the morning. Then it is tested before being released. The 6M issue IS on the list and moving up, but all I can say is it will not be in version 1.70 currently being tested. Please remain patient. I don't think any other company is as responsive to user input as Elecraft and they want everyone to be extremely happy with their radios. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 and 0319 On Wed Feb 27 5:39 , G4ILO sent: Bill W5WVO wrote: Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in June. It would also be nice to know when we might see FM TX/RX available, CW-to-PSK31 actually working, the calibration option for the high stability TCXO, etc, etc. You guys aren't the only ones waiting for updates to make the K3 do what we thought it would in the first place. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-rev-1.69-firmware- tp15599154p15713395.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Wasn't CW-to-PSK31 introduced in the last firmware release (MCU 1.69 and DSP 1.53)? Bob NW8L On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:39 AM, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would also be nice to know when we might see FM TX/RX available, CW-to-PSK31 actually working, the calibration option for the high stability TCXO, etc, etc. You guys aren't the only ones waiting for updates to make the K3 do what we thought it would in the first place. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Bill W5WVO wrote:
Björn and Alexandr,
This is not only important on UHF and above... It is important on VHF as
well! Granted nobody cares about this on HF, but 6m and above, it is
tremendously useful -- one could even say crucial. Björn, you described
the FT-897 capabilities very well, and that's exactly how the K3 should
implement this. The FT-897 is the gold-standard model for how this
should be done, and all the VHF/UHF ops I've talked with about it agree.
I had extensive email correspondence with the K3 design team early on,
lobbying for implementation of this feature, and I was assured it will
be forthcoming.
This feature is addressed in the FAQ, which says, These features will
not be in the initial firmware release, but should be available in the
second release. Exact functionality TBD. I don't think anybody knows
what this means. I sure don't. What is the second release? Haven't
there been many, many releases so far? Or does this mean v2.xx? If so,
when is that going to happen?
Can somebody at Elecraft let us know when this capability is expected to
be coded and implemented? It sure would be nice if it were in there by
the time I get my K3 in April/May, in time for the ARRL VHF QSO Party in
June.
Bill W5WVO
Rio Rancho, NM (DM65)
{snip}
Bill, regarding the meaning of release. I believe that to be a
version beginning 2.xx. The current release is 1.xx.
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
Calmly awaiting my K3 to bring me back on the air after 30 years.
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Re: [Elecraft] auto CW function
On 080223 14:01 , Dick Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to join Alexandr and Bjorn in support of this feature. This is one of the most useful features on the 897 and has proved to be invaluable when on dxpeditions. Invariably, you'll be on SSB running a pileup and someone will be calling you on CW; it is SO handy to just hit the key and make a reply. Anyhow, it would be a great future addition, IMO. 73 That's exactly how I have been using this feature, very handy! :) 73 de Björn /SM0MDG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
This is something I liked with my FT-897, I think it is a good idea but probably not the highest prio on my list. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG On 080223 12:41 , Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, is there some support for request for AUTO CW ON/OFF firmware function as some rigs are having (FT-897)? It means SSB mode choosed, RX in SSB mode normally but when Key is activated (touched for CW sending) there is automatic shift of carrier and CW is transmitted (as in standard CW mode, SEMI or FULL-BK etc.) then going back to SSB mode for RX. Hope you understand :-) This is very useful during UHF/SHF contests (with transverters) when calling CW CQ but takers are calling in SSB (mostly or very often). No need for switching mode (you have SSB all the time) and to touch dial knob to reply etc. Very comfortable and (I hope) not so serious for firmware. I know this is very special and on HF bands there is probably no reason for such function, my experience is based on serious contesting on higher bands (1296 and up). If this is already somewhere inside and I missed something and my sorry for this Q. 73! Lexa, ok1dst K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Auto CW function
Yes, Bjorn, it is marginal but when you plan to replace all 897 around used as I/F for microwaves... :-) Seriously - I know several other mostly UHF/SHF contesters - this is iportant function for them -- and they did not sent order for K3 yet ;-) 73! L. -dst- Björn Mohr napsal(a): This is something I liked with my FT-897, I think it is a good idea but probably not the highest prio on my list. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG On 080223 12:41 , Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, is there some support for request for AUTO CW ON/OFF firmware function as some rigs are having (FT-897)? It means SSB mode choosed, RX in SSB mode normally but when Key is activated (touched for CW sending) there is automatic shift of carrier and CW is transmitted (as in standard CW mode, SEMI or FULL-BK etc.) then going back to SSB mode for RX. Hope you understand :-) This is very useful during UHF/SHF contests (with transverters) when calling CW CQ but takers are calling in SSB (mostly or very often). No need for switching mode (you have SSB all the time) and to touch dial knob to reply etc. Very comfortable and (I hope) not so serious for firmware. I know this is very special and on HF bands there is probably no reason for such function, my experience is based on serious contesting on higher bands (1296 and up). If this is already somewhere inside and I missed something and my sorry for this Q. 73! Lexa, ok1dst K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
