Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Bill Johnson]

That would be better read as Eric.  :0-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

I think it best to respond to Harry directly, OFF LIST, as he has now created 
the situation he was complaining about.  I have directly responded to him, yet 
my response here has also extended the comments myself.  Besides, this is a job 
best done by Erick.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Bill Johnson]

I think it best to respond to Harry directly, OFF LIST, as he has now created 
the situation he was complaining about.  I have directly responded to him, yet 
my response here has also extended the comments myself.  Besides, this is a job 
best done by Erick.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Kevin Stover, AC0H]

On 5/27/2017 12:53 PM, Ron Wilcox wrote:

Nurturing a learning environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, 
is
important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
were. 


Define learning environment. The Internet is a terrible place to "learn" 
anything. It's 90% advertisement, 5% porn, and 5% information, three 
fourths of which is just plain wrong.



Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
other's views is not needed.


Thanks Mom.
I am not offended easily. I am Grumpy, I've earned it. I do not suffer 
fools well, especially those who haven't taken the time to at least skim 
the manual and those people stick out like a putrefied thumb.


I do entertain others views. Many of them are so tragically wrong they 
can't be classified as anything other than entertainment.


There is no guarantee in the US Constitution of never being offended, 
even if some are trying to weasel one in there by hook or by crook. It's 
knife that cuts both ways.




I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
need. 


Ditto.






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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Jim Sr Sturges]

The way to encourage more posts like this is to reply to them, he said with
an embarrassed look.

On Sat, 27 May 2017 at 13:55 Ron Wilcox  wrote:

> Harry I would respectfully disagree with some of your post. Because of
> questions from others I have learned a lot about using antennas with my KX2
> while camping, I have been able to investigate side products that work with
> my K3s and have purchased a few of them and they have enhanced my operating
> with my rigs. I would not have known about them otherwise.  I have seen
> posts about some RFI and followed some suggestions that has helped reduce
> my RFI. These may not have been directly elecraft products but they have
> really helped me. Some forums are too strict for me and not very friendly,
> this one has just the right balance for me. Not having an electronics
> background I have learned  a lot. It reminds me of another forum I really
> like, DXlab where no question is to be slighted, and it is a very open
> learning format. I feel the same about this one. Nurturing a learning
> environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, is
> important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
> were. Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
> other's views is not needed. I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
> need. I hope you stay on because it sounds like you have experience and can
> help others who might be new or not have a technology background. Have a
> great day.
>
> Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
> 73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
> RN, BSN
> Secretary Utah DX Club
> ARRL & W5YI VE
> ARRL  Instructor
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rose  wrote:
>
> > Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily
> become
> > aware of what's available?
> >
> > No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> > another vendor.
> >
> > Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> > occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> > I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> > more efficient than a Google search.
> >
> > FWIW ...
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Ron Wilcox]

Harry I would respectfully disagree with some of your post. Because of
questions from others I have learned a lot about using antennas with my KX2
while camping, I have been able to investigate side products that work with
my K3s and have purchased a few of them and they have enhanced my operating
with my rigs. I would not have known about them otherwise.  I have seen
posts about some RFI and followed some suggestions that has helped reduce
my RFI. These may not have been directly elecraft products but they have
really helped me. Some forums are too strict for me and not very friendly,
this one has just the right balance for me. Not having an electronics
background I have learned  a lot. It reminds me of another forum I really
like, DXlab where no question is to be slighted, and it is a very open
learning format. I feel the same about this one. Nurturing a learning
environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, is
important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
were. Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
other's views is not needed. I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
need. I hope you stay on because it sounds like you have experience and can
help others who might be new or not have a technology background. Have a
great day.

Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
RN, BSN
Secretary Utah DX Club
ARRL & W5YI VE
ARRL  Instructor

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rose  wrote:

> Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
> aware of what's available?
>
> No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> another vendor.
>
> Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> more efficient than a Google search.
>
> FWIW ...
>
> K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Walter Underwood]

Some high volume lists have two lists, xxx-announce and xxx-discuss. The 
xxx-announce is sometimes a read-only list that can only be posted to be the 
list owners. No replies allowed. The xxx-discuss list is for discussion, of 
course.

I don’t fee the list is too busy, but I’ve been getting thousands of e-mails 
for decades.

wunder
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> On May 27, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Rose  wrote:
> 
> Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
> aware of what's available?
> 
> No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> another vendor.
> 
> Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> more efficient than a Google search.
> 
> FWIW ...
> 
> K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Rose]

Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
aware of what's available?

No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
another vendor.

Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
occasionally "plugged" by list members.
I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
more efficient than a Google search.

FWIW ...

K0PP
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