Re: [Orgmode] bullet point cycling

2008-11-20 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Samuel,

On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:


I found the following in 6.12a.

* org-shiftleft and org-shiftright on bullet points
1.  The command is not documented as working on bullet
   points.  However, this is a great feature.  For me, it
   cycles bullet styles.


Documentation is improved now.



2.  It should ideally adjust indentation when cycling bullet point
   styles.  For example, - + take one column; 1) takes two.


This also works now.



3.  1. (number followed by dot) should indent by two spaces when
   sentence-end-double-space is non-nil.  This should also
   occur with org-insert-heading.  See the present style.



I cannot see why this would be useful.  Sentence commands will
also not work with the other bullet styles.  Note that you can
use C-a in combination with an appropriate setting of
`org-special-ctrl-a/e' to jump to the beginning of an item,
after the bullet.  I use the setting `reversed'.



4.  It would be nice to include o (lowercase oh) as a bullet
   point style if possible, as it's fairly common.


Might be nice, but this is too much trouble, because of
technical reasons (implementation is hard-coded in
several places...)



5.  There seems to be a bug in which org-shiftleft turns the
   first bullet point into a headline.  This occurs on the
   present body with the curser on the present bullet
   point.


Yes, if the bullet starts at the left margin, the cycling
skips the * bullet type, to avoid confusion with headlines.
This was broken for the left-cycling.  Works now.

Thanks for your report.

And don't forget to try the new ido support in Org:

(setq org-completion-use-ido t)

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Exporting to ASCII Without Headlines.

2008-11-20 Thread Ian Barton
I am writing a magazine article and including their markup for the 
article in my org file. For example I have:


** Top Bar - Tutorial Web cams in Linux.
///TOPBAR///
Tutorial Webcams in Linux.

Ideally I would like to be able to export my org file to ASCII without 
any headlines, as the editor doesn't want them in my submitted copy. I 
have had a look through the exporter options, but can't see an obvious 
way of doing this.


This isn't a big deal, as I can easily fix the text with a quick run 
through sed, but I was curious if there was an org way of doing it.


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread Peter BARABAS
Hello,



On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 01:36, Flávio de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody!

 I would like to know some web sites that are using org-mode. Can you point
 some of them?

The home page of org-mode ( http://orgmode.org ) and the worg
community site ( http://orgmode.org/worg/ ) are both powered by
org-mode.


 Can I use org-mode to make my blog too? Do you use it for that?

At least 2 blogging libraries for org-mode exist: org-blog and blorg.
Here's a comparison thread:

http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.orgmode/2007-07/msg00051.html

Some information about them are at
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgBlog and
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Blorg




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Re: [Orgmode] org-clock-in fails sometimes with prefix arg

2008-11-20 Thread Bernt Hansen
Yes I am.

-Bernt

Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Bernt,

 are you saving clock information from session to session,
 using org-clock-persistence-insinuate?

 - Carsten
 On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 Hi Carsten,

 I've run into this a few times today.  I don't have any useful insight

 into how this occurs yet but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

 My current org-clock-history looks like this:

 ,[ C-h v org-clock-history RET]

 | org-clock-history is a variable defined in `org-clock.el'.

 | Its value is

 | (#marker at 5990 in norang.org #marker at 42510 in norang.org #
 marker at 8870 in csp.org #marker at 6269 in org.org #marker at 5145
 in ciss.org #marker at 339 in org #marker at 1 in org #marker at
 10546 in csp.org #marker at 9659 in csp.org #marker at 10794 in
 csp.org)

 |

 |

 |

 | Documentation:

 | List of marker pointing to recent clocked tasks.

 `

 Somehow I am getting markers to read-only buffers in there

 eg.(#marker at 1 in org)

 and this breaks C-u M-x org-clock-in which triggers the following error

 in org-clock-select-task

 ,

 | save-restriction: Buffer is read-only: #buffer org

 `

 I'm not sure how I got these markers in the list

 org-clock-select-task fails when it hits the read-only buffer.  This org

 buffer happens to be a directory (in dired I believe) of my ~/git/org

 directory.

 As a workaround for now I'm just manually clearing the variable with

 (setq org-clock-history nil)

 to remove the markers and make this work again.

 Regards,

 Bernt

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[Orgmode] Re: org-clock-in fails sometimes with prefix arg

2008-11-20 Thread Bernt Hansen
This happened again this morning.  I'm not (to my knowledge) actually
using the org-clock-persistence stuff but it is active.  Again I have an
'org' buffer which is a dired entry at the end of my clock history list.

I'm going to try a few things

  - restart emacs and see if I can reproduce what causes this

  - turn off the cock persistence settings and see if this problem goes
away (don't expect a report on that for at least a week)

-Bernt

Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Bernt,

 are you saving clock information from session to session,
 using org-clock-persistence-insinuate?

 - Carsten
 On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 Hi Carsten,

 I've run into this a few times today.  I don't have any useful insight

 into how this occurs yet but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

 My current org-clock-history looks like this:

 ,[ C-h v org-clock-history RET]

 | org-clock-history is a variable defined in `org-clock.el'.

 | Its value is

 | (#marker at 5990 in norang.org #marker at 42510 in norang.org #
 marker at 8870 in csp.org #marker at 6269 in org.org #marker at 5145
 in ciss.org #marker at 339 in org #marker at 1 in org #marker at
 10546 in csp.org #marker at 9659 in csp.org #marker at 10794 in
 csp.org)

 |

 |

 |

 | Documentation:

 | List of marker pointing to recent clocked tasks.

 `

 Somehow I am getting markers to read-only buffers in there

 eg.(#marker at 1 in org)

 and this breaks C-u M-x org-clock-in which triggers the following error

 in org-clock-select-task

 ,

 | save-restriction: Buffer is read-only: #buffer org

 `

 I'm not sure how I got these markers in the list

 org-clock-select-task fails when it hits the read-only buffer.  This org

 buffer happens to be a directory (in dired I believe) of my ~/git/org

 directory.

 As a workaround for now I'm just manually clearing the variable with

 (setq org-clock-history nil)

 to remove the markers and make this work again.

 Regards,

 Bernt

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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread srandby

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flávio de Souza) writes:


Hi everybody!

I'm new emacs and org-mode user. I've posted to this group sometimes and
I got helpful hints. Now I need your help ( opinion ) about
publishing html with org-mode.

I decided to use emacs to make my personal website. Basically,
I want to write essays, tutorials and my cv and put in internet. I also
want to do a blog. 


I am using org-mode to keep tracking of all my projects and it is working
really nice, therefore I'd like to try org-mode to make my web site.

I would like to know some web sites that are using org-mode. Can you point 
some of them? 



I've been using org-mode to make my web site since August. The address 
follows.


http://www3.uakron.edu/randby

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[Orgmode] Re: org-clock-in fails sometimes with prefix arg

2008-11-20 Thread Carsten Dominik

OK, thanks, I'll wait with actions for more info.

- Carsten

On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:


This happened again this morning.  I'm not (to my knowledge) actually
using the org-clock-persistence stuff but it is active.  Again I  
have an
'org' buffer which is a dired entry at the end of my clock history  
list.


I'm going to try a few things

 - restart emacs and see if I can reproduce what causes this

 - turn off the cock persistence settings and see if this problem goes
   away (don't expect a report on that for at least a week)

-Bernt

Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Bernt,

are you saving clock information from session to session,
using org-clock-persistence-insinuate?

- Carsten
On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

   Hi Carsten,

   I've run into this a few times today.  I don't have any useful  
insight


   into how this occurs yet but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

   My current org-clock-history looks like this:

   ,[ C-h v org-clock-history RET]

   | org-clock-history is a variable defined in `org-clock.el'.

   | Its value is

   | (#marker at 5990 in norang.org #marker at 42510 in  
norang.org #
   marker at 8870 in csp.org #marker at 6269 in org.org  
#marker at 5145
   in ciss.org #marker at 339 in org #marker at 1 in org  
#marker at
   10546 in csp.org #marker at 9659 in csp.org #marker at 10794  
in

   csp.org)

   |

   |

   |

   | Documentation:

   | List of marker pointing to recent clocked tasks.

   `

   Somehow I am getting markers to read-only buffers in there

   eg.(#marker at 1 in org)

   and this breaks C-u M-x org-clock-in which triggers the  
following error


   in org-clock-select-task

   ,

   | save-restriction: Buffer is read-only: #buffer org

   `

   I'm not sure how I got these markers in the list

   org-clock-select-task fails when it hits the read-only buffer.   
This org


   buffer happens to be a directory (in dired I believe) of my ~/ 
git/org


   directory.

   As a workaround for now I'm just manually clearing the variable  
with


   (setq org-clock-history nil)

   to remove the markers and make this work again.

   Regards,

   Bernt

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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread Matthew Lundin

Hi Richard,

Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Flavio,

 I just began a website with org-publish for many of the same reasons
 you mention:

 http://faculty.valpo.edu/mlundin/

 Nice.

 Is your table of contents simply standard org fair with some special
 css?

 Here's my little offering : http://richardriley.net/


Yes, the horizontal TOC is standard org with some CSS styling. I still
have concerns about its usability, but I like the look of it.

I very much like the clean design of your website.

Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread Richard Riley
Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Richard,

 Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Flavio,

 I just began a website with org-publish for many of the same reasons
 you mention:

 http://faculty.valpo.edu/mlundin/

 Nice.

 Is your table of contents simply standard org fair with some special
 css?

 Here's my little offering : http://richardriley.net/


 Yes, the horizontal TOC is standard org with some CSS styling. I still
 have concerns about its usability, but I like the look of it.

 I very much like the clean design of your website.

 Matt

There are some hacks there since I never really got around to
understanding the java script stuff for navigation., but yeah, I really
tried to keep it low bandwidth and clean. Yours is a super example of
clean and functional too IMO. There's simply too much clutter on most
sites and we all need to do our little bit to reduce transfer overhead
IMO - not that my little business site is totally innocent :-;



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[Orgmode] patch for info file

2008-11-20 Thread Charles Sebold
It's not makeinfo-ing this morning:

$ makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
org.texi:7491: Unmatched }.
makeinfo: Removing output file `org' due to errors; use --force to preserve.


diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index 2d0e805..67c3049 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -7488,7 +7488,7 @@ the subtrees are exported.
 Dispatcher for export and publishing commands.  Displays a help-window
 listing the additional key(s) needed to launch an export or publishing
 command.  The prefix arg is passed through to the exporter.  A double prefix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C-u} causes most commands} to be executed in the background, 
in a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C-u} causes most commands to be executed in the background, 
in a
 separate emacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] make this behavior the default, customize
 the variable @code{org-export-run-in-background}.}.
 @kindex C-c C-e v


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[Orgmode] patch for info file

2008-11-20 Thread Charles Sebold
It's not makeinfo-ing this morning:

$ makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
org.texi:7491: Unmatched }.
makeinfo: Removing output file `org' due to errors; use --force to preserve.


diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index 2d0e805..67c3049 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -7488,7 +7488,7 @@ the subtrees are exported.
 Dispatcher for export and publishing commands.  Displays a help-window
 listing the additional key(s) needed to launch an export or publishing
 command.  The prefix arg is passed through to the exporter.  A double prefix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C-u} causes most commands} to be executed in the background, 
in a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C-u} causes most commands to be executed in the background, 
in a
 separate emacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] make this behavior the default, customize
 the variable @code{org-export-run-in-background}.}.
 @kindex C-c C-e v


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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread William Henney
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, the horizontal TOC is standard org with some CSS styling. I still
 have concerns about its usability, but I like the look of it.

Indeed, your horizontal TOC is very beautiful. I guess the main
usability concern is that it is not immediately obvious that it is a
TOC for the page, rather than a bunch of links to separate pages on
your site.

Would you mind if I sought (ahem) inspiration from your CSS file?

Here is an example of a small bunch of pages that I published with org:

http://www.crya.unam.mx/~will/temarios-armonia.html

Much less ambitious than the other examples given, but it did its job.

Cheers

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Re: [Orgmode] A few new user questions, Custom agenda views, calendar in frame, and Hyperlinks on win32

2008-11-20 Thread Mike Newman
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:06:51 -0500
Jonathan Arkell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Finally, I am having a problem with some external links, whenever I
 try to visit a file like \\AWindowsServer\path\to\file  I get the
 error message “eval: ShellExecute failed: The system cannot find the
 file specified. ^M”  Is it easy to fix this?  What is going on?

Does using // rather than \\ work better?

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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread mdl

Hi Will,

William Henney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, the horizontal TOC is standard org with some CSS styling. I still
 have concerns about its usability, but I like the look of it.

 Indeed, your horizontal TOC is very beautiful. I guess the main
 usability concern is that it is not immediately obvious that it is a
 TOC for the page, rather than a bunch of links to separate pages on
 your site.

Yes, that's my concern as well, but including Table of Contents
looked a little clunky. 


 Would you mind if I sought (ahem) inspiration from your CSS file?


Not at all. It can be found at:

http://faculty.valpo.edu/mlundin/css/stylesheet.css

 Here is an example of a small bunch of pages that I published with org:

 http://www.crya.unam.mx/~will/temarios-armonia.html



Thanks for the link. It's nice knowing how many other org-publish
users there are out there.

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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread Matthew Lundin
Hi Scott,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I've been using org-mode to make my web site since August. The address
 follows.

 http://www3.uakron.edu/randby

Thanks for the link. I like how you've used org-info.js and a single
page to create an entire website.

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[Orgmode] Re: Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread Flávio de Souza

Thanks everybody for sharing your web sites!

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Re: [Orgmode] easypg and multiple prompts

2008-11-20 Thread Daniel Clemente
Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 (require 'epa)
 (epa-file-enable)

 although I thinks its default is on anyway.
  Yes.


 One is prompted three times for the passphrase

  I got the same behaviour when using 3 mail accounts in Gnus which make use of 
one sole authinfo file. I described this in [1].

  Yes, there is some caché for easypg. I turned it on via:
(setq epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption t)
  and now it asks me the password just one time. I think this will be useful 
also for Org.

  The code (Gnus and Org-mode), however, seem to be accessing the same data 
many times instead of being „smart“ and reading all needed data in just one go. 
But I doubt this makes a difference in terms of efficiency, since the involved 
files are small.


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Re: [Orgmode] bullet point cycling

2008-11-20 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Carsten,

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:04, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the changes!

 3.  1. (number followed by dot) should indent by two spaces when
   sentence-end-double-space is non-nil.  This should also
   occur with org-insert-heading.  See the present style.


 I cannot see why this would be useful.  Sentence commands will
 also not work with the other bullet styles.  ...

Making sentences work for all styles and for headlines would be nice,
but that is not what this is about.  It's for indentation:

1. This has one space.
   And this is correctly aligned.

1.  This has two spaces.
And this is correctly aligned.

(At least, if gmail didn't change anything.)

Those who use two spaces after periods.  Like this.   Probably also
want to have two spaces after the dot after the number also.  As I do.

Currently org assumes that you always want one space after the period.

 And don't forget to try the new ido support in Org:

 (setq org-completion-use-ido t)

 - Carsten

Looking forward to it and will test it.

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Re: [Orgmode] Publishing my personal website with Org-mode

2008-11-20 Thread srandby

Matthew Lundin wrote:

Hi Scott,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've been using org-mode to make my web site since August. The address
follows.

http://www3.uakron.edu/randby


Thanks for the link. I like how you've used org-info.js and a single
page to create an entire website.

Matt



Hi Matt,

Thanks. I think org-info.js is fantastic. During a semester, I make 
daily updates to several parts of the site. Having the whole site 
generated from one file makes it easy to do these updates. One update 
takes at most 5 minutes as opposed to the 15-20 minutes it took before I 
began using org-mode. My students seem to have fewer problems with the 
site now, an unexpected bonus.


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Re: [Orgmode] bullet point cycling

2008-11-20 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Nov 21, 2008, at 2:45 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:


Making sentences work for all styles and for headlines would be nice,
but that is not what this is about.  It's for indentation:

1. This has one space.
  And this is correctly aligned.

1.  This has two spaces.
   And this is correctly aligned.

(At least, if gmail didn't change anything.)

Those who use two spaces after periods.  Like this.   Probably also
want to have two spaces after the dot after the number also.  As I do.

Currently org assumes that you always want one space after the period.


Why do you think that this is the case?  Under what circumstances
does it exhibit such behavior?

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] bullet point cycling

2008-11-20 Thread Samuel Wales
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 21:55, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why do you think that this is the case?  Under what circumstances
 does it exhibit such behavior?

Best example:

- Create this item.  Now do M-x org-shiftright twice.  It
  will look like 1. Create instead of 1.  Create.


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Re: [Orgmode] bullet point cycling

2008-11-20 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 21:55, Carsten Dominik  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why do you think that this is the case?  Under what circumstances
does it exhibit such behavior?


Best example:

- Create this item.  Now do M-x org-shiftright twice.  It
 will look like 1. Create instead of 1.  Create.


OK, I see now.  But I don't see what this has to to with the
user setting for the number of spaces after a sentence.
You may, for example, also want two spaces after 1).  So I
have implemented in a different way:

  (setq org-list-two-spaces-after-bullet-regexp \\.)

should now do what you want.  Up on the git repo now.

- Carsten





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