Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote:
 I was just hopeful because of your last line No RTAI so far, but that 
 might come soon.
   
Well, Torsten Koschorrek tells me he is STILL working on the port.  Must 
have been WAY
harder than he originally thought.  I would have expected that the 
BeagleBoard has such
wide application that RTAI would have wanted to make a port available 
for it.  I have used
the original BeagleBoard in one project, and it was really great.  It is 
a signal multiplexer
to go in an area that becomes inaccessible when equipment is running.  
It allows the
operators to remotely check on equipment in that room.  I created a
TCP server, it is a single file of C code about two pages long, and is 
started as
a service in the /etc/init.d files.  The ease of setting up the TCP 
server was really
mind-boggling.
 I found another hopeful sign just this morning. At 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/rtai-cortex/files/ there is a new file 
 linux-2.6.20.13-5b27ed7.patch.bz2 (667.9kB) dated 2012-01-13. That's 
 less than two weeks ago!
   
Yes, he's still picking away, but I have no idea how much closer it 
might be.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-26 Thread Ron Bean
Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com writes:

On 1/25/2012 10:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

 The BeagleBoard is a good candidate, about 2W with an SD card for
 disk, USB
 ports, etc.  No RTAI so far, but that might come soon.

 Jon

Jon:

With respect to this list, it's now closing in on two years since you
sent your RTAI port done for Beagle Board message and approaching a
year since the brief exchange you had with cnc Qin. Has something
happened recently concerning RTAI and the BeagleBoard/OMAP3?

Also, since then the BeagleBone has come out, which has more GPIO pins.
It has a TI AM3358 ARM Cortex-A8 CPU running at 700 Mhz. They claim
over 1.5 billion Dhrystone operations per second and vector floating
point arithmetic operations.

http://beagleboard.org/bone


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Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 1/25/2012 10:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
   
 EBo wrote:
 
 who's joking ;-)

 Actually, there are some low-powered SOCs that run Linux, and if any of
 them can be made to run LinuxCNC nee EMC2, it would be replaceable.  If
 you poke at this please let me/us know...

   
 The BeagleBoard is a good candidate, about 2W with an SD card for
 disk, USB
 ports, etc.  No RTAI so far, but that might come soon.

 Jon

 
 Jon:

 With respect to this list, it's now closing in on two years since you 
 sent your RTAI port done for Beagle Board message and approaching a 
 year since the brief exchange you had with cnc Qin. Has something 
 happened recently concerning RTAI and the BeagleBoard/OMAP3?
   
Not a whole lot!  If I sent a done message, it was certainly an error 
caused by somebody
giving me bad info.  Some French guys did a port of either RT-preempt or 
RT-Linux,
I now forget which.  The BeagleBoard has so much potential it is quite 
annoying we
don't have an RTAI port for it, yet.  I'm plenty disappointed that it 
has been this long,
and I am out of pocket $149 plus shipping to Germany for the Beagle I 
supplied
to the ARM maintainer for RTAI, I guess they move at a truly glacial pace!

I know that completing a port like that was WAY out of my league.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-26 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/26/2012 10:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 1/25/2012 10:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

 EBo wrote:

 who's joking ;-)

 Actually, there are some low-powered SOCs that run Linux, and if any of
 them can be made to run LinuxCNC nee EMC2, it would be replaceable.  If
 you poke at this please let me/us know...


 The BeagleBoard is a good candidate, about 2W with an SD card for
 disk, USB
 ports, etc.  No RTAI so far, but that might come soon.

 Jon


 Jon:

 With respect to this list, it's now closing in on two years since you
 sent your RTAI port done for Beagle Board message and approaching a
 year since the brief exchange you had with cnc Qin. Has something
 happened recently concerning RTAI and the BeagleBoard/OMAP3?

 Not a whole lot!  If I sent a done message, it was certainly an error
 caused by somebody
 giving me bad info.  Some French guys did a port of either RT-preempt or
 RT-Linux,
 I now forget which.  The BeagleBoard has so much potential it is quite
 annoying we
 don't have an RTAI port for it, yet.  I'm plenty disappointed that it
 has been this long,
 and I am out of pocket $149 plus shipping to Germany for the Beagle I
 supplied
 to the ARM maintainer for RTAI, I guess they move at a truly glacial pace!

 I know that completing a port like that was WAY out of my league.

 Jon


I know what you mean, Jon.

At the time you began talking up the Beagle Board I had just wrestled 
with the ARM-based 8 Chumby (actually the BestBuy version called the 
Insignia 8 InfoCast that I got at a fire-sale price), built a working 
cross-compiling toolchain, ported some bits and pieces of software and 
got them to run on the installed Linux, and then built my own Linux. 
Cocky from that exercise, I looked up the available material on the 
BeagleBoard and the available info on porting RTAI and was quickly 
deflated. I'd have to raise my skills a whole 'nother level or two or 
three 

I was just hopeful because of your last line No RTAI so far, but that 
might come soon.

I found another hopeful sign just this morning. At 
http://sourceforge.net/project/rtai-cortex/files/ there is a new file 
linux-2.6.20.13-5b27ed7.patch.bz2 (667.9kB) dated 2012-01-13. That's 
less than two weeks ago!

I'm in no position to assess the progress being made by asprakash 
(tko79) and others, perhaps you are, but at least there is recent activity.

Like you, I think the BeagleBoard is a potent contender. I bought an xM 
version to play with for possible mobile robotics applications with my 
grandkids but with my wife's health issues taking center stage I have 
only confirmed that it boots. The recently announced headless BeagleBone 
that Ron mentioned looks even better for my intended use, given its 
price and I/O.

Regards,
Kent


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Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-25 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/25/2012 10:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 EBo wrote:
 who's joking ;-)

 Actually, there are some low-powered SOCs that run Linux, and if any of
 them can be made to run LinuxCNC nee EMC2, it would be replaceable.  If
 you poke at this please let me/us know...

 The BeagleBoard is a good candidate, about 2W with an SD card for
 disk, USB
 ports, etc.  No RTAI so far, but that might come soon.

 Jon

Jon:

With respect to this list, it's now closing in on two years since you 
sent your RTAI port done for Beagle Board message and approaching a 
year since the brief exchange you had with cnc Qin. Has something 
happened recently concerning RTAI and the BeagleBoard/OMAP3?

Regards,
Kent


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