Re: [Emc-users] Leadshine ACS806 - Large f-error at higher speeds - what is acceptable?

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 1 May 2014 18:56:23 -0400, you wrote:

Thanks to everybody for the information. If anything it helped me
understand the nature of servos better as I've been sitting here tweaking
the machine.

So it has something to do with some sort of lag in the servo driver. I'll
be emailing leadshine with my fingers crossed hoping they can help.

Here are the Specs

 Position following error : +/-1 count 
 Velocity accuracy: +/-2rpm 
 Maximum acceleration speed (No Load) : 80 rpm/ms2
 Input frequency up to 600 kHz 
 Maximum speed : 4000 rpm 
 Allowable low speed reaches1 rpm 
 Positioning accuracy :+/-1 count 
 Suitable for 18 - 80 VDC AC servo

Are you within them? 

Have you used the available tuning software using the serial connection
to the drive? If not you need to to see what's going on and tune it
properly. You will need to adjust the Kp, Kd and Vp parameters. All
explained in the software manual. 

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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread a k
Hi
 i am building cnc plasma table.
it is CNC gantry type machine with plasma head.
I want to ask about Jasic Air Plasma machine.
how you start stop plasma - ?
because i need to it be controlled with CNC controller
Did anyone used Jasic Air Plasma machine with CNC - EMC2 controller?

thank you
aram



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 On 4/15/2014 6:20 AM, David Armstrong wrote:
  On 15/04/14 10:59, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
  Hello!
 
  I was thinking about a plasma source like this:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/251355364995
 
  It is supplied with a torch that is meant for manual operation - the
  problem is that it is angled, not straight, which makes it not only more
  difficult to mount, but also takes up more space and also does not look
  that nice.
 
  I found a torch, whose description says that it is suitable for the
  previously mentioned plasma source:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/151167833644
 
  The second picture of that listing seems somewhat suspicious - I do not
  see, where the power cable lead should be connected. There is one small
  connector visible, but that certainly is not capable of 100A current.
 
  I would appreciate any advices or links, how other plasma users have
 solved
  this issue.
  Thanks in advance!
 
  Viesturs
 
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  Yes i'd agree it does look not capable of 100A , however they do work
  quite well , Although i'd realy rate them
  at about 60A Max , i have 2 running at 45A and they work fine
 
  i have been tempted just to tear the case off and make my own to suit
  the z Axis and make it more integral to the machine
  but not got around to it as yet .
 
  i'd class these as a Hobbist level , rather than a proffesional torch
  capable of many hours
 
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 Viesturs,

 Looks like you need to take apart your old manual torch head and attach
 this head.  I see two setscrews in the back of the automatic torch head
 which are likely cable clamps for the power cable lead.

 I have a Cut 60 plasma setup which works ok.   Cuts 1 manually without
 a problem.

 Looks like the Cut100 requires 3 phase power.

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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-02 11:54 GMT+03:00 a k pccncmach...@gmail.com:

 I want to ask about Jasic Air Plasma machine.
 how you start stop plasma - ?
 because i need to it be controlled with CNC controller


That is very simple - replace the manual button with something that is
controlled by cnc controller - either a relay switch or anything else
(optocoupler etc), depending on what kind of signal is going through those
wires. In the welding robot there was a manual MIG welder, which  had 8 V
AC in the control button wires, so it took 2 output drivers on Mesa 7i37 to
handle the AC part, while 8 V was much less of a problem.

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[Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread Roland Jollivet
Have a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4knPtYjc2s8. I don't
know if it's just good advertising, but I'd like one..

You also need to be aware of the 'start' methodology. HF noise etc.
But from what I've read, you won't go wrong with Hypertherm.

Roland




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 Hello!

 I was thinking about a plasma source like this:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/251355364995

 It is supplied with a torch that is meant for manual operation - the
 problem is that it is angled, not straight, which makes it not only more
 difficult to mount, but also takes up more space and also does not look
 that nice.

 I found a torch, whose description says that it is suitable for the
 previously mentioned plasma source:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/151167833644

 The second picture of that listing seems somewhat suspicious - I do not
 see, where the power cable lead should be connected. There is one small
 connector visible, but that certainly is not capable of 100A current.

 I would appreciate any advices or links, how other plasma users have solved
 this issue.
 Thanks in advance!

 Viesturs

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[Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
for center/edge  finding with LinuxCNC.  I just found a
camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.

See eBay item

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321060396782?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.

it is 7 mm diameter, says 200X magnification.
What I'd do is take a 3/4 R-8 end mill holder and
fab a ring  to permanently hold the scope, and
have a groove for the cord to come out.  Then,
I'd find whatever pixel on the camera is at the
center of rotation and make a permanent
assignment of that pixel for the crosshairs.

But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
is a Linux driver for this camera?  Any other comments
on suitability of this unit?

Thanks,

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 5/2/2014 10:15 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
 
 But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
 So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
 is a Linux driver for this camera?  Any other comments
 on suitability of this unit?

There's likely no way to figure out what the chip is without actually
buying one, but I would say since it's 640x480 and works natively with
XP (drivers are only needed for Win 7  8), the odds are very good that
it will work with Linux.

For $17.59, just buy one and try it out!

...or wait until the one I just ordered comes in and I report back to
the list.  :)

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread steve
On Fri 02/05/14 17:15 , Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
 for center/edge finding with LinuxCNC. I just found a
 camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
 idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.

Jon - Les Newel done some work with edge finding software lately, I've a 
Supereyes camera - camera is great and according to their website here's how 
you get one to connect to Linux

If anybody wants to use Supereyes microscopes on Linux, it is enough to install 
guvcview (free sfotware) and connect it to the right device.

for example:

guvcview (this is the default and it read input from /dev/video0)

otherwise
 
guvcview -d your-video-device

in my case

guvcview -d /dev/video1.

thank you.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.

I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Eric Keller
That looks very similar to the one I have and I'm not unhappy I bought it,
but the optics didn't work for what I wanted to use it for.  Which was
pretty much an edge finding operation.  It just worked with linux,
although I went to some trouble prior to that to set up a more expensive
usb microscope, so there was probably some software already installled

If I could figure out which of these cameras have better optics, I would be
happy to spend more


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 I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
 for center/edge  finding with LinuxCNC.  I just found a
 camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
 idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.

 See eBay item


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/321060396782?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.

 it is 7 mm diameter, says 200X magnification.
 What I'd do is take a 3/4 R-8 end mill holder and
 fab a ring  to permanently hold the scope, and
 have a groove for the cord to come out.  Then,
 I'd find whatever pixel on the camera is at the
 center of rotation and make a permanent
 assignment of that pixel for the crosshairs.

 But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
 So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
 is a Linux driver for this camera?  Any other comments
 on suitability of this unit?

 Thanks,

 Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 12:14:04 Jon Elson did opine:

 I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
 for center/edge  finding with LinuxCNC.  I just found a
 camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
 idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.
 
 See eBay item
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/321060396782?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3
 984.m1423.l2649
 
 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.
 
 it is 7 mm diameter, says 200X magnification.
 What I'd do is take a 3/4 R-8 end mill holder and
 fab a ring  to permanently hold the scope, and
 have a groove for the cord to come out.  Then,
 I'd find whatever pixel on the camera is at the
 center of rotation and make a permanent
 assignment of that pixel for the crosshairs.
 
 But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
 So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
 is a Linux driver for this camera?  Any other comments
 on suitability of this unit?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jon

I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on fleabay, and am using 
the camunits drivers.  Other than the lag of the image getting thru all the 
filters, about 4 seconds to update the screen when you move it, and the 
fact that it has self illuminating leds wrapped around the lens, making it 
somewhat less useful when the target is shiny (most metals are) because of 
the almost dead on illumination, it works well. I usually turn the dimmer 
in the cord down to nearly off  use a strong low angle illumination from 
the side which doesn't give near as much specular illumination.

But I don't have it spindle mounted, it is in a block of alu that I drilled 
for setscrews used to align the cameras center pixel with the non-
adjustable crosshairs inserted by on of the filters, mounted on the right 
side of the spindle casting by 1 screw  some Goop.  So its about 1.5 from 
the spindle centerline.

There are added buttons the align software puts up in the right hand panel, 
which can be use both to calibrate the offset, and to move the mill itself 
back and forth by the amount of offset determined.  Once calibrated, that 
also works well.  It also includes a means like for circuit boards, where 
you can drill a couple #80 witness holes, flip the board over and align the 
backside of the board even if its rotated an arbitrary amount by auto-
compensating the co-ordinate system for the back of the board.

Time to go put on a nose bag according to the better half.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi everyone,

not that I knew about a good camera for this, but since it somehow fits
the topic, let me just briefly say a few words to an alignment software
I made some time ago.

Under http://hb9etc.ch/hg/aligner you can find some code which allows a
cheap camera to be used for automatic alignment. The program uses OpenCV
to grab frames from a camera and can then locate a template image inside
the captured frame to determine the position of some prominent
structure. We use this on our dispenser to automatically align to PCB
traces. It is not especially fast or reliable when it comes to different
lighting conditions, but it works quite well. A simple textual
socket-based interface allows for remote control of it, so that a
GladeVCP (which controls most of the special dispenser features) can use
it during the production process. A python module providing some
abstraction can be found in the src/ directory as well.

Feel free to comment or ask questions about it. Maybe it's of use for
someone else.

Cheers,
Philipp



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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread TIM
Jon, 
I've recently been working with a USB fiberscope (a microscope camera for 
inspecting the ends of optical fibers). 

When we got the device in, I plugged it into my Linux box and the correct 
video4linux drivers automatically loaded, and within minutes I was looking at 
output with the Cheese webcam viewer. 

The camera was identifying as a known USB webcam device . 

I'd expect the one you're looking at would as well. There's no guarantee, of 
course. 

For my application, I used the video4linux library to read in frames and 
process them for my own purposes. 

Hope this helps, 

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To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:21 AM 
Subject: [Emc-users] center finder camera 

I know there has been some discussion about using cameras 
for center/edge finding with LinuxCNC. I just found a 
camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no 
idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip. 

See eBay item 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321060396782?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
 

eBay item # is 321060396782 if the above line is messed up. 

it is 7 mm diameter, says 200X magnification. 
What I'd do is take a 3/4 R-8 end mill holder and 
fab a ring to permanently hold the scope, and 
have a groove for the cord to come out. Then, 
I'd find whatever pixel on the camera is at the 
center of rotation and make a permanent 
assignment of that pixel for the crosshairs. 

But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers. 
So, does anybody know how to find out whether there 
is a Linux driver for this camera? Any other comments 
on suitability of this unit? 

Thanks, 

Jon 

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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread a k
hi
Viesturs
who is distribute in USA Jasic or similar plasma cutters?
Do you have contact number?
Is Jasic plasma durable - working good?

thank you
aram


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 2014-05-02 11:54 GMT+03:00 a k pccncmach...@gmail.com:

  I want to ask about Jasic Air Plasma machine.
  how you start stop plasma - ?
  because i need to it be controlled with CNC controller
 

 That is very simple - replace the manual button with something that is
 controlled by cnc controller - either a relay switch or anything else
 (optocoupler etc), depending on what kind of signal is going through those
 wires. In the welding robot there was a manual MIG welder, which  had 8 V
 AC in the control button wires, so it took 2 output drivers on Mesa 7i37 to
 handle the AC part, while 8 V was much less of a problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-02 21:28 GMT+03:00 a k pccncmach...@gmail.com:

 who is distribute in USA Jasic or similar plasma cutters?
 Do you have contact number?


Since I am Latvia, right on the opposite side of the northern hemisphere
from USA, I doubt I can share anything useful :))


  Is Jasic plasma durable - working good?


One of 3 LinuxCNC users in my country that I am aware of, owns Jasic plasma
source and he recommended them to me.
I personally do not yet have any experience with them.
See few messages back in this very same thread - Dave wrote that it works
quite well.

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Re: [Emc-users] Leadshine ACS806 - Large f-error at higher speeds - what is acceptable?

2014-05-02 Thread Curtis Dutton
Today I received a second AC806 drive in the mail. It is a V1 ACS806.

The V1 is simpler to tune. It only has a current loop Kp and Ki, as well as
position loop Kp, Ki, and Kd.

I tried that on the same motor that the AVS806V2 is having trouble with.
Following error is now down to under 20 counts at full velocity, about
1400rpm, and down to under 5 counts or so at low velocities. Which is well
within my needs.

So by process of elimination it is some form of setting on the AVS806V2
which is the problem. (which has more parameters, etc... involved with it)

I'll keep troubleshooting the V2, but being that an older, basically
identical drive is performing properly, that helps me eliminate motor/ps
sizing concerns.


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:

 On Thu, 1 May 2014 18:56:23 -0400, you wrote:

 Thanks to everybody for the information. If anything it helped me
 understand the nature of servos better as I've been sitting here tweaking
 the machine.

 So it has something to do with some sort of lag in the servo driver. I'll
 be emailing leadshine with my fingers crossed hoping they can help.

 Here are the Specs

  Position following error : +/-1 count
  Velocity accuracy: +/-2rpm
  Maximum acceleration speed (No Load) : 80 rpm/ms2
  Input frequency up to 600 kHz
  Maximum speed : 4000 rpm
  Allowable low speed reaches1 rpm
  Positioning accuracy :+/-1 count
  Suitable for 18 - 80 VDC AC servo

 Are you within them?

 Have you used the available tuning software using the serial connection
 to the drive? If not you need to to see what's going on and tune it
 properly. You will need to adjust the Kp, Kd and Vp parameters. All
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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma torch for cnc machine

2014-05-02 Thread jeremy youngs
hypertherm = expensive consumables. i have a friend with one and he borrows
my harbor freight 40 amper because my consumables cost 12 bucks to replace
his are 50. i am leery of h.f tools especially at 650 bucks but alas after
8 yrs of ownership i think this is the best non commerecial plasma cutter
available and definitely the cheapest to run . the torch is a high quality
trafimet. my friend the other day told me if he could sell his ( original
cost of 1200 bucks ) for what an hf unit costs (650) he would do it
immediately. as to the esabs in  a similar price range you get no pilot arc
feature and again high consumable costs. i pondered the purchase for about
2 months going to hf 3 times and reviewing the product. i believe this to
be the single best buy at harbor freight period. yes im a bit proud about
this but after 8 yrs my concerns are no more and this has proven to be an
excellent buy and ovbiously i would not hesitate to recommend one or
replace mine with another if it gave in the ghost tomorrow with another
just like it . well thats my .02 hope it helps



jeremy youngs


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Roland Jollivet
roland.jolli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4knPtYjc2s8. I don't
 know if it's just good advertising, but I'd like one..

 You also need to be aware of the 'start' methodology. HF noise etc.
 But from what I've read, you won't go wrong with Hypertherm.

 Roland




 On 15 April 2014 11:59, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I was thinking about a plasma source like this:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/251355364995
 
  It is supplied with a torch that is meant for manual operation - the
  problem is that it is angled, not straight, which makes it not only more
  difficult to mount, but also takes up more space and also does not look
  that nice.
 
  I found a torch, whose description says that it is suitable for the
  previously mentioned plasma source:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/151167833644
 
  The second picture of that listing seems somewhat suspicious - I do not
  see, where the power cable lead should be connected. There is one small
  connector visible, but that certainly is not capable of 100A current.
 
  I would appreciate any advices or links, how other plasma users have
 solved
  this issue.
  Thanks in advance!
 
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[Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all;

The screws I have to put in this used to be a micromill, are 8mm2.5's and 
have an outer diameter of about 9.25mm.

I intend to turn them down to 8mm to fit in the existing bearing bosses, 
but with ball bearing thrust washers with an 8mm bore.

But in grinding them down, its obvious I wall NOT have a good shoulder 
because the 8mm is just about the bottoms of the ball grooves.

This means I will not have a good shoulder all the way around, and that 
implies that the ball thrust washers may tip.

I am inclined to make a sleeve about 12 or 13mm OD, and at least 10mm long, 
and a bit small so I can heat it and hopefully drive it against the 
shoulder, and that it in turn will prevent the thrust washer from tilting.  
That would involve driving it around 80mm from the end of the screw.  No 
clue if a shrink fitted sleeve could be driven that far in one blow of a 
dead blow hammer.

But I don't have any better ideas ATM.  Anybody else have an idea to offer?

Thanks.

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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread jeremy youngs
a pic?



jeremy youngs


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings all;

 The screws I have to put in this used to be a micromill, are 8mm2.5's and
 have an outer diameter of about 9.25mm.

 I intend to turn them down to 8mm to fit in the existing bearing bosses,
 but with ball bearing thrust washers with an 8mm bore.

 But in grinding them down, its obvious I wall NOT have a good shoulder
 because the 8mm is just about the bottoms of the ball grooves.

 This means I will not have a good shoulder all the way around, and that
 implies that the ball thrust washers may tip.

 I am inclined to make a sleeve about 12 or 13mm OD, and at least 10mm long,
 and a bit small so I can heat it and hopefully drive it against the
 shoulder, and that it in turn will prevent the thrust washer from tilting.
 That would involve driving it around 80mm from the end of the screw.  No
 clue if a shrink fitted sleeve could be driven that far in one blow of a
 dead blow hammer.

 But I don't have any better ideas ATM.  Anybody else have an idea to offer?

 Thanks.

 Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread andy pugh
On 3 May 2014 00:53, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 But in grinding them down, its obvious I wall NOT have a good shoulder
 because the 8mm is just about the bottoms of the ball grooves.

Rather than grinding, consider trying a CBN insert, and the fastest
spindle speed you can manage.
(Turning with CBN tips is closest to single-point grinding, if the
material isn't red hot and fizzing, you need more spindle speed).

 I am inclined to make a sleeve about 12 or 13mm OD, and at least 10mm long,
 and a bit small so I can heat it and hopefully drive it against the
 shoulder,

Why bother making it so tight? If the aspect ratio is long enough then
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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 20:28:42 jeremy youngs did opine:

 a pic?

I have one in the camera, but I'm a bit under the weather, too much sugar 
and too many sugar pills today.  I'll get 2 more of the old screw, Its 
rusty, and the OEM bearing boss tomorrow and put them on my web page, 
posting the link.
 
 
 jeremy youngs
 
 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Greetings all;
  
  The screws I have to put in this used to be a micromill, are
  8mm2.5's and have an outer diameter of about 9.25mm.
  
  I intend to turn them down to 8mm to fit in the existing bearing
  bosses, but with ball bearing thrust washers with an 8mm bore.
  
  But in grinding them down, its obvious I wall NOT have a good shoulder
  because the 8mm is just about the bottoms of the ball grooves.
  
  This means I will not have a good shoulder all the way around, and
  that implies that the ball thrust washers may tip.
  
  I am inclined to make a sleeve about 12 or 13mm OD, and at least 10mm
  long, and a bit small so I can heat it and hopefully drive it against
  the shoulder, and that it in turn will prevent the thrust washer from
  tilting. That would involve driving it around 80mm from the end of
  the screw.  No clue if a shrink fitted sleeve could be driven that
  far in one blow of a dead blow hammer.
  
  But I don't have any better ideas ATM.  Anybody else have an idea to
  offer?


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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 20:33:51 andy pugh did opine:

 On 3 May 2014 00:53, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  But in grinding them down, its obvious I wall NOT have a good shoulder
  because the 8mm is just about the bottoms of the ball grooves.
 
 Rather than grinding, consider trying a CBN insert, and the fastest
 spindle speed you can manage.
 (Turning with CBN tips is closest to single-point grinding, if the
 material isn't red hot and fizzing, you need more spindle speed).

Much of my tooling is indexable carbide inserts, so I'm fairly familiar 
with red hot swarf, and they do cut better at the higher temps, but that 
does not sound like CBN.  Define?

Also, these screws do not have countersinks in the ends, so I can't put it 
between centers so I can hog it and stay at dimension.   Even to use a 
diamond disk in a dremel, I'll probably have to write a compensatory taper 
in the grinding code.

  I am inclined to make a sleeve about 12 or 13mm OD, and at least 10mm
  long, and a bit small so I can heat it and hopefully drive it against
  the shoulder,
 
 Why bother making it so tight? If the aspect ratio is long enough then
 it can't help sitting square.

True, but I've no clue how hard these screws are, and would like to have it 
snug enough that it can't move  peen the joint between the sleeve and the 
screws thread.  That would have me chasing backlash that comes  goes.

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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread andy pugh
On 3 May 2014 01:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 (Turning with CBN tips is closest to single-point grinding, if the
 material isn't red hot and fizzing, you need more spindle speed).

 Much of my tooling is indexable carbide inserts, so I'm fairly familiar
 with red hot swarf, and they do cut better at the higher temps, but that
 does not sound like CBN.  Define?

Cubic Boron Nitride, it tends to come as an insert in the insert:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055717060 for example has one darker tip.

I doubt you have seen red hot swarf quite like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU14tfjUfQU

Interestingly this video shows the same problem I have had, you need
to have more back-out than normal or the tool drags on the return.
Unless you have a very stiff machine then there will be more flex than
normal, but that doesn't mean you can't hit size.

The last screw I cut was on the Colchester Student at the Motor Club,
and it was a revelation.

 Also, these screws do not have countersinks in the ends, so I can't put it
 between centers so I can hog it and stay at dimension.

You can probably add one, the middles are normally quite soft.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Phill Carter
Gene,
I had the same lag problem so I adjusted saturation and hue to 0, result is 
almost no lag  monochrome is fine for edge finding.
Cheers, Phill

On May 3, 2014 2:31:59 AM GMT+10:00, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
On Friday 02 May 2014 12:14:04 Jon Elson did opine:

 I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
 for center/edge  finding with LinuxCNC.  I just found a
 camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
 idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.
 
 See eBay item
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321060396782?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3
 984.m1423.l2649
 
 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.
 
 it is 7 mm diameter, says 200X magnification.
 What I'd do is take a 3/4 R-8 end mill holder and
 fab a ring  to permanently hold the scope, and
 have a groove for the cord to come out.  Then,
 I'd find whatever pixel on the camera is at the
 center of rotation and make a permanent
 assignment of that pixel for the crosshairs.
 
 But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
 So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
 is a Linux driver for this camera?  Any other comments
 on suitability of this unit?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jon

I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on fleabay, and am
using 
the camunits drivers.  Other than the lag of the image getting thru all
the 
filters, about 4 seconds to update the screen when you move it, and the

fact that it has self illuminating leds wrapped around the lens, making
it 
somewhat less useful when the target is shiny (most metals are) because
of 
the almost dead on illumination, it works well. I usually turn the
dimmer 
in the cord down to nearly off  use a strong low angle illumination
from 
the side which doesn't give near as much specular illumination.

But I don't have it spindle mounted, it is in a block of alu that I
drilled 
for setscrews used to align the cameras center pixel with the non-
adjustable crosshairs inserted by on of the filters, mounted on the
right 
side of the spindle casting by 1 screw  some Goop.  So its about 1.5
from 
the spindle centerline.

There are added buttons the align software puts up in the right hand
panel, 
which can be use both to calibrate the offset, and to move the mill
itself 
back and forth by the amount of offset determined.  Once calibrated,
that 
also works well.  It also includes a means like for circuit boards,
where 
you can drill a couple #80 witness holes, flip the board over and align
the 
backside of the board even if its rotated an arbitrary amount by auto-
compensating the co-ordinate system for the back of the board.

Time to go put on a nose bag according to the better half.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2014 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.
 I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
 Just worked

There are a bunch of similar units.  Some are 7mm, some 10mm and
some other sizes.  I'm not too clear if these endoscope 
cameras
are good for the center finding purpose, as they list a 62 
degree
field of view, seems awfully wide for this.  There's a $60 
one listed
as a pen microscope where they showed some pics and that seems
to have a good close-up view.  The others are not showing views,
so it is harder to know.

There is a pic from the HD5000 webcam in the Wiki at
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc
that is not very impressive, you might be able to get it 
within .1mm
but that's about it.

There's another pic here :
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Axis_Embed_Video
That seems much more impressive, but I couldn't find
what camera was used.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2014 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 eBay item # is 321060396782  if the above line is messed up.
 I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
 Just worked

OK, well, that is good news.  We got two eyepiece cameras at
work to put in place of a microscope eyepiece.  One was total
crap but worked with Linux.  The other was quite good, but
the camera chip, as far as I know, STILL has no Linux driver.
The chip company will not release any details, so other than
reverse engineering the Windows driver, there may never
be one.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2014 11:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on 
 fleabay, and am using the camunits drivers. Other than the 
 lag of the image getting thru all the filters, about 4 
 seconds to update the screen when you move it,
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
center parts under the spindle.  What resolution is that
camera?  It seems the lower res ones may have faster
update.

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Re: [Emc-users] Question on screw machining

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 22:47:13 andy pugh did opine:

 On 3 May 2014 01:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  (Turning with CBN tips is closest to single-point grinding, if the
  material isn't red hot and fizzing, you need more spindle speed).
  
  Much of my tooling is indexable carbide inserts, so I'm fairly
  familiar with red hot swarf, and they do cut better at the higher
  temps, but that does not sound like CBN.  Define?
 
 Cubic Boron Nitride, it tends to come as an insert in the insert:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055717060 for example has one darker tip.
 
 I doubt you have seen red hot swarf quite like this:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU14tfjUfQU
 
 Interestingly this video shows the same problem I have had, you need
 to have more back-out than normal or the tool drags on the return.
 Unless you have a very stiff machine then there will be more flex than
 normal, but that doesn't mean you can't hit size.
 
 The last screw I cut was on the Colchester Student at the Motor Club,
 and it was a revelation.
 
  Also, these screws do not have countersinks in the ends, so I can't
  put it between centers so I can hog it and stay at dimension.
 
 You can probably add one, the middles are normally quite soft.

No, I don't have any inserts like that.  But the ones I do have are about 
the same price, north of $140 for a 10 pack.  As for a support center 
dimple, I can usually make those if I can get my tailstock well enough 
aligned as I do have some cheap center drills.  The tail stock adjusting 
facilities of a 7x12's tail stock aren't conducive to maintaining its 
alignment, and some of the error is vertical, it rises as I run the barrel 
out, which has no way to adjust at all short of scraping its base or the X 
sliders bottom.  Genuine POS...  I am probably accuracy ahead to just 
carefully set the 4 jaw, and expect to have to write a bit of X taper to 
compensate for headstock miss-alignment.  Too bad screw comp is one 
dimensional, lengthwise. :(

That might be best handled as an L10L2P1 R(+-)0.005?, or whatever R 
neutralizes it.  Once established, I could put that in the default startup 
of the .ini.  And doing 80 or 90 mm of the end of this screw would sure 
serve as a calibration run.  I used a dremel with its bigger flat diamond 
wheel for something like this in the past, so with the dremel on slow  
screwed enough to clear the center mount, slow so the diamond doesn't get 
too hot, and the spindle idling at 200 rpm or less, it might take 2 or 3 
days but once I get it running straight, I can turn out the lights  get 
some sleep.

Humm, mount my .0001 dial indicator on the tool post, put a pad on the end 
to straddle the grooves, and running the carriage back and forth should 
give me a ball park error for setting the R.  Worth a try anyway.

Because the carriage isn't front weighted enough (the x motor is on the 
rear), it does tend to turn about a thou as it rises off the v-way to bring 
the front gib in solid restraining contact, and that is best handled with a 
back out move before the retrace move.  Adjusting those gibs is a genuine 
chore as the only way to access the adjustments is to drop the apron 
coupling and run the apron and nut out of the way.  Even then, getting the 
tools in there to do it is a PITA.

Wish I had a decent lathe in the first place.  Sigh...

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 23:38:39 Phill Carter did opine:

 Gene,
 I had the same lag problem so I adjusted saturation and hue to 0, result
 is almost no lag  monochrome is fine for edge finding. Cheers, Phill
 
Aha! So I'm not the only oh look, a pony type out here, thanks for waving 
your arm.  Glad to know I have company because it seems so lonesome 
otherwise.

I hadn't considered that as being an artifact of decoding the color, but 
will, since mono is fine for this, and we aren't exactly inspecting colons 
with it, thanks.  That lag is almost unsettling because you have to bump it 
a thou and wait for the image to show it.  Not at all a speedy operation.

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Re: [Emc-users] center finder camera

2014-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 May 2014 23:51:25 Jon Elson did opine:

 On 05/02/2014 11:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on
  fleabay, and am using the camunits drivers. Other than the
  lag of the image getting thru all the filters, about 4
  seconds to update the screen when you move it,
 
 Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
 center parts under the spindle.  What resolution is that
 camera?  It seems the lower res ones may have faster
 update.
 
 Jon

I am not sure, but 640x480 comes to mind.  It can go higher, but the 
resultant image does not seem to improve.  Going lower seems to cause it to 
slow because of the time it spends decimating the data down to the lower 
dimensions.  Or at least thats my present theory, based on what I know 
about tv cameras in general.  Higher probably slows because of the sheer 
data coming in thru the USB port.  Mine is plugged into a front port on a 
D525MW equipt ARK lunchbox, which could be a 1.1 port.  A  2.0 port should 
handle it.

So lets look, it is plugged into:
 
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 058f:5608 Alcor Micro Corp.
And:
That is a 1.1 hub.

Only this hub is a 2.0 hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

And I haven't a clue which of the usb ports, 4 on the rear, 2 on the front, 
might be that 2.0 port.

It might do to experiment and see if I can find a faster port...

And TBT, I am surprised hugely that a motherboard as new as the D525MW is 
so poorly equipt with usb2.0 stuffs.  Mind boggling even.  But both os them 
report:
gene@lathe:~$ sudo lsusb
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop 
Laser
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
gene@lathe:~$ 

 
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