Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
John, The easy way is to use the Stepconf Wizard to generate a config for you. There is a Sherline Driver choice and a Sherline Outputs button that does all the hard work for you as you page through the wizard. Take a gander at the getting started guide. It tells you how to create a desktop shortcut for your new config after you get done with the wizard. John On 15 Oct 2008 at 11:55, John Domville wrote: I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. John Domville Elmira NY -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
My Sherline mill will not run whwn I select Sherline as the driver type. I have to use OTHER. Further along the wizard you again select the output to be Sherline and that works. I found the not in use selection for the limit switches and also had to enter different axis movements to get the sample engraving program to run. I don't have a bit small enough to engrave yet so I left the Z axis up off the piece and let the x and y axis run through the controller. My first project will be to write a program to route a coper PC board. Should I leave the steps in the config file alone (set at 200) seeingt that I am running other rather than the Sherline preset in driver type. I need it to be accurate of course as I will be milling specific lengts on the PCB. Also is there a way to manualy control one axis with out writting a program. Sort of a manual jog. John Domville John Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : John, The easy way is to use the Stepconf Wizard to generate a config for you. There is a Sherline Driver choice and a Sherline Outputs button that does all the hard work for you as you page through the wizard. Take a gander at the getting started guide. It tells you how to create a desktop shortcut for your new config after you get done with the wizard. John On 15 Oct 2008 at 11:55, John Domville wrote: I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. John Domville Elmira NY -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
Did you read the short Getting Started Guide? It's only 27 pages long and covers most of what you need to know to get up and running... The first one sets the stepper drive timing only. The second one sets the I/O of the parallel port card and they have nothing to do with each other. When you select Other you should input your drive timing values. On 16 Oct 2008 at 9:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Sherline mill will not run whwn I select Sherline as the driver type. I have to use OTHER. Further along the wizard you again select the output to be Sherline and that works. I found the not in use selection for the limit switches and also had to enter different axis movements to get the sample engraving program to run. I don't have a bit small enough to engrave yet so I left the Z axis up off the piece and let the x and y axis run through the controller. My first project will be to write a program to route a coper PC board. Should I leave the steps in the config file alone (set at 200) seeingt that I am running other rather than the Sherline preset in driver type. I need it to be accurate of course as I will be milling specific lengts on the PCB. Also is there a way to manualy control one axis with out writting a program. Sort of a manual jog. the plus and minus jog buttons... on the manual control screen or do you mean some remote pendant way to jog? John John Domville John Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : John, The easy way is to use the Stepconf Wizard to generate a config for you. There is a Sherline Driver choice and a Sherline Outputs button that does all the hard work for you as you page through the wizard. Take a gander at the getting started guide. It tells you how to create a desktop shortcut for your new config after you get done with the wizard. John On 15 Oct 2008 at 11:55, John Domville wrote: I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. John Domville Elmira NY -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. John Domville Elmira NY - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
John, The first thing to do is to just see EMC in operation. Select one of the Sim configurations, Axis and TkEMC are good choices. As the name implies these configurations use simulated I/O, so it will not do anything as far as controlling a machine. It will just give you a feel for what it should look and act like when you do get you configuration running. Then you will have to create a configuration for your machine. I don't know whether the boot CD gives the option to save a local copy of a configuration, which can then be edited. If so you could still do this from the boot CD, but the better way is to install EMC to your hard drive. Since you already have Ubuntu 8.04 installed, follow the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_8_04_u sing_precompiled_EMC2_packages Then you will want to find a configuration which most closely matches your system. Stepper-inch for example is a three axis stepper system using the parallel port. If your system uses a control board other than the parallel port, then pick one of the configurations relative to that control board. For more information on configuring your system, see: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Configuring_EMC2 Regards, Eric I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:55 -0400, John Domville wrote: ... snip Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? ... snip John Domville Elmira NY You can create your own configuration file or have Stepconf do it for you. Check here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_stepconf.html You can start Stepconf from the same menu you start EMC. I assume this matches your pin assignments: (from http://www.sherline.com/8760pg.htm ) ... DB25 pin out: 1 - Input from EMC (may be ignored in other systems) 2 - X Direction 3 - X Step 4 - Y Direction 5 - Y Step 6 - Z Direction 7 - Z Step 8 - A Direction 9 - A Step 10 - NC 11 - Output to EMC (may be ignored in other systems) 12 - Output to EMC, XYZ home (may be ignored in other systems) 13 - NC 14 - Input from EMC, C1 (may be ignored in other systems) 15 - NC 16 - Input from EMC, C2 (may be ignored in other systems) 17 - NC 18-25 - Ground ... For the items that you don't know what data to enter, the default might be a good choice. You will likely need to adjust your settings to match your particular setup so don't worry too much about the data you start with. I haven't used Stepconf so others on the list can provide better advise. Kirk - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
Eric... Thanks for the info. We will check out the links and give it a try John -Original Message- From: Eric H. Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:50 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill John, The first thing to do is to just see EMC in operation. Select one of the Sim configurations, Axis and TkEMC are good choices. As the name implies these configurations use simulated I/O, so it will not do anything as far as controlling a machine. It will just give you a feel for what it should look and act like when you do get you configuration running. Then you will have to create a configuration for your machine. I don't know whether the boot CD gives the option to save a local copy of a configuration, which can then be edited. If so you could still do this from the boot CD, but the better way is to install EMC to your hard drive. Since you already have Ubuntu 8.04 installed, follow the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_8_04_u sing_precompiled_EMC2_packages Then you will want to find a configuration which most closely matches your system. Stepper-inch for example is a three axis stepper system using the parallel port. If your system uses a control board other than the parallel port, then pick one of the configurations relative to that control board. For more information on configuring your system, see: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Configuring_EMC2 Regards, Eric I have been stumbling around in the dark with the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill ever since I got it. I had trouble installing the software disk that came with the SHERLINE mill. ( Linux/EMC Version 4.51). At this point I have been able to down load the EMC2 image from Linuxcnc.org and after several attempts have Been successful in burning a CD that will boot. I already had a PC that dual booted between Windows XP professional and Ubuntu 8.xxx. Still learning my way around the LINUX file structure and OS. I have printed out the EMC2 manual and have that handy. So this is where I am now: Computer:DELL with 1Gb Ram and a 160 Gig hard drive running both Win XP and Ubuntu. Mill: Sherline 5000 series with a external 8760 controller. Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? Several of you were kind enough to answer my new guy dumb questions, which without I would not be where I am now. A million thanks for that. I hope someday to return the favor if I ever learn this system/software/machine. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill
Kirk, Thanks for the input. Will give it a try. John -Original Message- From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:39 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:55 -0400, John Domville wrote: ... snip Per printed instructions I have booted off the CD and got to the EMC2 program (Applications CNC EMC2) The screen where I am stuck for a selection is the Configuration Select. What do I select at this point to proceed, based on my equipment? ... snip John Domville Elmira NY You can create your own configuration file or have Stepconf do it for you. Check here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_stepconf.html You can start Stepconf from the same menu you start EMC. I assume this matches your pin assignments: (from http://www.sherline.com/8760pg.htm ) ... DB25 pin out: 1 - Input from EMC (may be ignored in other systems) 2 - X Direction 3 - X Step 4 - Y Direction 5 - Y Step 6 - Z Direction 7 - Z Step 8 - A Direction 9 - A Step 10 - NC 11 - Output to EMC (may be ignored in other systems) 12 - Output to EMC, XYZ home (may be ignored in other systems) 13 - NC 14 - Input from EMC, C1 (may be ignored in other systems) 15 - NC 16 - Input from EMC, C2 (may be ignored in other systems) 17 - NC 18-25 - Ground ... For the items that you don't know what data to enter, the default might be a good choice. You will likely need to adjust your settings to match your particular setup so don't worry too much about the data you start with. I haven't used Stepconf so others on the list can provide better advise. Kirk - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users