Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 15.05.12 16:48, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 5/15/2012 4:12 PM, dave wrote:
  dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
  dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
  mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
  dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
  last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
  You will not be able to write the partition table.
 
  cfdisk simply reports no write perms.
 
 Haven't run into this but then I've never had to chmod a USB stick. If 
 push comes to shove I suppose you could use a Windows system to reformat 
 the drive and then start again in Ubuntu, but that seems excessive.

Oooh, it shouldn't ever be necessary for push to shove that far. :-)
(But then I've never had an M$ box, either.)

Kent, what is the fs_type on your USB stick? Stuffing the nearest Lexar
stick into a USB socket, I tried the problem command:

$ cp -p /tmp/fetchmail_log /media/backup_4/
$ ll !$fetchmail_log
-rw-r--r-- 1 erik erik 7797 2012-05-16 18:40 /media/backup_4/fetchmail_log

$ chmod 0777 /media/backup_4/fetchmail_log  # -- HERE --

$ ll /media/backup_4/fetchmail_log
-rwxrwxrwx 1 erik erik 7797 2012-05-16 18:40 /media/backup_4/fetchmail_log*

Smoth as silk. Maybe your Lexar is stubborn. What happens if you
give it another go?

The first thing I do with any flash stick which comes my way is format
it as ext3, on linux¹:

# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdd1

then label it:

# e2label /dev/sdd1 backup_1  # 16 characters max.

then mount it, and:

# chown -R erik.erik /media/backup_1

That has done a bunch of various brands, including two 8GB Lexars, which
are my front line devices now. They've never missed a beat.

If we gang up on yours, it'll probably give in.

Erik

¹ Either fdisk -l or mount identifies the device. If the latter,
  then unmount the drive before formatting. (I figure you know
  that, so just for the record. :-)
  
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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.05.12 19:24, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 Kent, what is the fs_type on your USB stick?

Sorry Gentlemen; s/Kent/Dave

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[Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread dave
Hi, 
Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)

The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it
on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
is:
Download live iso from .ro site (done)
Transfer iso to bootable usb.
Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive. 

The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't
make it bootable. 

There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line. 

Here is the first stumbling block. 

dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
You will not be able to write the partition table.

cfdisk simply reports no write perms. 

TIA

Dave



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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
I recently did this successfully, albeit from a windows machine.  I used
Linux Live USB creator (http://www.linuxliveusb.com/), pointed it to the
iso, and it made the USB stick bootable w/ the CD image.  It doesn't just
copy files.

You should be able to use Unetbootin from the linux command line to do the
same thing.  (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/)

Stephen

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:12 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:

 Hi,
 Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)

 The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it
 on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
 is:
 Download live iso from .ro site (done)
 Transfer iso to bootable usb.
 Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive.

 The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
 and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't
 make it bootable.

 There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line.

 Here is the first stumbling block.

 dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
 dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
 mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
 dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
 last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
 You will not be able to write the partition table.

 cfdisk simply reports no write perms.

 TIA

 Dave




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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 5/15/2012 4:12 PM, dave wrote:
 Hi,
 Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)

Greetings from a fellow grump.
 The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it
 on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
 is:
 Download live iso from .ro site (done)
 Transfer iso to bootable usb.
 Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive.

Ummm. Ubuntu 10.04LTS, at least, includes the ability to create a 
bootable USB driver using Startup Disk Creator (look in  the 
System/Administration menu). You can also search the pendrivelinux.com 
site for their various recipes.

 The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
 and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't
 make it bootable.

 There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line.

 Here is the first stumbling block.

 dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
 dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
 mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
 dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
 last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
 You will not be able to write the partition table.

 cfdisk simply reports no write perms.

Haven't run into this but then I've never had to chmod a USB stick. If 
push comes to shove I suppose you could use a Windows system to reformat 
the drive and then start again in Ubuntu, but that seems excessive.

 TIA

 Dave



Good luck.

Regards,
Kent


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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Dave,

How about this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

You should be able to use the Linuxcnc LiveCD as the ISO image.

Failing that, install generic Ubuntu 10.04 to the USB, use it to install,
then run the Linuxcnc install script as described here under If you prefer
to start with the distributed Ubuntu CD:
http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/download/21?task=view

HTH,
Eric


Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)

The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it on a
D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
is:
Download live iso from .ro site (done)
Transfer iso to bootable usb.
Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive. 

The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag and
drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't make it
bootable. 

There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line. 

Here is the first stumbling block. 

dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777
(rwxrwxrwx) dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700 You will not be
able to write the partition table.

cfdisk simply reports no write perms. 


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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread Karl Cunningham
I used UNetBootin to create a live USB stick on a Linux desktop machine. 
It can use the ISO or live CD as the source for the image.

Karl

On 05/15/2012 01:12 PM, dave wrote:
 Hi,
 Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)

 The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it
 on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
 is:
 Download live iso from .ro site (done)
 Transfer iso to bootable usb.
 Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive.

 The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
 and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't
 make it bootable.

 There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line.

 Here is the first stumbling block.

 dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
 dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
 mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
 dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
 last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
 You will not be able to write the partition table.

 cfdisk simply reports no write perms.

 TIA

 Dave



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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread dave
On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:09:03 -0700
Karl Cunningham ka...@keckec.com wrote:

 I used UNetBootin to create a live USB stick on a Linux desktop
 machine. It can use the ISO or live CD as the source for the image.

Ah! The best laid plans of mice and men 

I'm not quite sure what they mean by uninstallable. ;-)

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  unetbootin: Depends: libqt4-network (= 4.4.0) but it is not installable
  Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4.4.0) but it is not installable
  Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4.4.0) but it is not installable


In addition just after I sent the original message I thought: well
there isn't that much difference between a CF and a USB ... so I ran
the live install against the usb. It seemed to go fine but will not
boot. Boot partition is 800 Mb and the other partition takes up all the
rest of the 4G. 

I'm beginning to think the path of least resistance is to unplug my
drives on the desktop machine, boot against the live-CD and simply
install to the SATA drive I'm going to use with the D510. 

Dave

 Karl
 
 On 05/15/2012 01:12 PM, dave wrote:
  Hi,
  Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)
 
  The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can
  get it on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think
  makes sense is:
  Download live iso from .ro site (done)
  Transfer iso to bootable usb.
  Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive.
 
  The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
  and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly
  doesn't make it bootable.
 
  There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line.
 
  Here is the first stumbling block.
 
  dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
  dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
  mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
  dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
  last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
  You will not be able to write the partition table.
 
  cfdisk simply reports no write perms.
 
  TIA
 
  Dave
 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] linux 10.04 install from usb

2012-05-15 Thread N. Christopher Perry
That's what I ended up doing.  In my case I was trying to make a bootable usb 
on a Mac.  Tried 3 - 4 different usb sticks without success.

First time I ran through the process on an older Win2000 machine, everything 
worked exactly as it should.  Now that particular USB is tucked away as the 
last resort tool.

N.C.

On 2012-May-15, at 16:48, Kent A. Reed wrote:

 On 5/15/2012 4:12 PM, dave wrote:
 Hi,
 Google is sometimes not my friend. Grump for an older guy. ;-)
 
 Greetings from a fellow grump.
 The idea is to install a linux from a live cd to at usb so I can get it
 on a D510MO. Since this board has no ide the route I think makes sense
 is:
 Download live iso from .ro site (done)
 Transfer iso to bootable usb.
 Boot from usb and install on a SATA drive.
 
 Ummm. Ubuntu 10.04LTS, at least, includes the ability to create a 
 bootable USB driver using Startup Disk Creator (look in  the 
 System/Administration menu). You can also search the pendrivelinux.com 
 site for their various recipes.
 
 The usb is a 4G Lexar. Fdisk doesn't like it. I have managed to drag
 and drop at least most of the CD to the usb but that certainly doesn't
 make it bootable.
 
 There must be a reasonable way to do this from the command line.
 
 Here is the first stumbling block.
 
 dave@dsk:~$ cd /media
 dave@dsk:/media$ chmod 0777 -v -R -f Lexar
 mode of `Lexar' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
 dave@dsk:/media$ fdisk /media/Lexar
 last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
 You will not be able to write the partition table.
 
 cfdisk simply reports no write perms.
 
 Haven't run into this but then I've never had to chmod a USB stick. If 
 push comes to shove I suppose you could use a Windows system to reformat 
 the drive and then start again in Ubuntu, but that seems excessive.
 
 TIA
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 Good luck.
 
 Regards,
 Kent
 
 
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