[E-devel] ANN: editje

2009-11-16 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi all,

We'd like to announce Editje, a new tool to edit Edje files in a
visual way. It's based on interactions like Flash for animations,
where you have a timeline and select points, then states and it will
do the rest.

That said, it's different from hand-written edc files, where we used
to create as few states as possible and add custom programs moving
from one to another. Editje have couple public programs that we call
signals, they're basically of 2 types: signals that convert to other
signals (translators) and signals that triggers animations. When one
create an animation, he gets couple of programs pre-defined:
 - signal:animation,play,  souce:animation-name  - triggers start
of animation.
 - signal:animation,stop,  souce:animation-name  - stop
previously started animation.
 - signal:animation,end source:animation-name - emitted when
animation finishes.

Editje filters all internal programs from UI, they are still in EDC
and have @ as prefix. Names are mangled to make it possible to
restore original timelines.

Given that design decision, we don't need to create lots of part
states manually. Actually now you just have one part state default,
but in future we plan to add more to be used as template states so
during animations you don't need to manually set all the state values
again, instead you just copy from state.

More information, see http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/43724
as you see, we're still in early stages and more work is to come.
Please try it and help us improve this tool as there is no matching
tool in free software yet!

BR,

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Re: [E-devel] ANN: editje

2009-11-16 Thread nathan baxter
On 16/11/2009, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 Hi all,

 We'd like to announce Editje, a new tool to edit Edje files in a
 visual way. It's based on interactions like Flash for animations,
 where you have a timeline and select points, then states and it will
 do the rest.

 That said, it's different from hand-written edc files, where we used
 to create as few states as possible and add custom programs moving
 from one to another. Editje have couple public programs that we call
 signals, they're basically of 2 types: signals that convert to other
 signals (translators) and signals that triggers animations. When one
 create an animation, he gets couple of programs pre-defined:
  - signal:animation,play,  souce:animation-name  - triggers start
 of animation.
  - signal:animation,stop,  souce:animation-name  - stop
 previously started animation.
  - signal:animation,end source:animation-name - emitted when
 animation finishes.

 Editje filters all internal programs from UI, they are still in EDC
 and have @ as prefix. Names are mangled to make it possible to
 restore original timelines.

 Given that design decision, we don't need to create lots of part
 states manually. Actually now you just have one part state default,
 but in future we plan to add more to be used as template states so
 during animations you don't need to manually set all the state values
 again, instead you just copy from state.

 More information, see http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/43724
 as you see, we're still in early stages and more work is to come.
 Please try it and help us improve this tool as there is no matching
 tool in free software yet!

 BR,


Please forgive me if this sounds a little stupid (on my part)...

Will this application be and Edje editor, or will it simply be an
editor for animations that are used in edc files?

Regards

Nathan

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Re: [E-devel] ANN: editje

2009-11-16 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM, nathan baxter
pixelmasoch...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 16/11/2009, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 Hi all,

 We'd like to announce Editje, a new tool to edit Edje files in a
 visual way. It's based on interactions like Flash for animations,
 where you have a timeline and select points, then states and it will
 do the rest.

 That said, it's different from hand-written edc files, where we used
 to create as few states as possible and add custom programs moving
 from one to another. Editje have couple public programs that we call
 signals, they're basically of 2 types: signals that convert to other
 signals (translators) and signals that triggers animations. When one
 create an animation, he gets couple of programs pre-defined:
      - signal:animation,play,  souce:animation-name  - triggers start
 of animation.
      - signal:animation,stop,  souce:animation-name  - stop
 previously started animation.
      - signal:animation,end source:animation-name - emitted when
 animation finishes.

 Editje filters all internal programs from UI, they are still in EDC
 and have @ as prefix. Names are mangled to make it possible to
 restore original timelines.

 Given that design decision, we don't need to create lots of part
 states manually. Actually now you just have one part state default,
 but in future we plan to add more to be used as template states so
 during animations you don't need to manually set all the state values
 again, instead you just copy from state.

 More information, see http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/43724
 as you see, we're still in early stages and more work is to come.
 Please try it and help us improve this tool as there is no matching
 tool in free software yet!

 BR,


 Please forgive me if this sounds a little stupid (on my part)...

not stupid at all :-)


 Will this application be and Edje editor, or will it simply be an
 editor for animations that are used in edc files?

This will replace edje_editor and edje_viewer, being the de-facto
visual editor of Edje files. Of course we need work to get to that
point, but the goal is to be what inkscape is for svg: although it is
possible to write svg/xml manually, nobody does that, we often use a
gui to do it for us.

For future, we hope to integrate some tools to assist even more the
process, like common animations and designs made easy, such as snap to
object/grid, alignments and so on. Not to forget new things that will
come to edje soon, as evas_object_map (rotation, perspective, 3d).

BR,

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[E-devel] Using illume in 3DAW

2009-11-16 Thread Carlo Ascani
As you know, i'm interested in pro audio software and hardware on linux (i
say it every single time, lol).
With some friends, we are working on a great project called 3Daw, an
all-in-one pro live mixer and recorder...

We would power this thick piece of hardware with an environment on wich run
some applications like Ardour, on a 10 monitor, that would be touch or
not...
So e17 would be our choice for the job, in particoular illume profile, and
so here's the question:
Could illume run multiple istances of the same app?
Cause apparently it doesn't, (i'm trying it on my notebook) and if no, where
can i change that behaviour?

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[E-devel] Proposal: OpenCL-Bindings to fasten up the core libs

2009-11-16 Thread Christian K.
Hello,

i just started to code some scientific apps on a mac using opencl (also my
first time of coding with opencl) and the plus on performance is stunning
(almost 90% in comparison to a standard C Code Version). Well its a project
with a lot of parallel data processing so quasi made for opencl.

so why dont OpenCL to do the nasty stuff within the e-libs and open the door
for user to code with opencl under e?

So my proposal: An integration of OpenCL within the e libs and a special
API for e-libs using OpenCL.


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Re: [E-devel] Proposal: OpenCL-Bindings to fasten up the core libs

2009-11-16 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Christian K.
waffenkl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 i just started to code some scientific apps on a mac using opencl (also my
 first time of coding with opencl) and the plus on performance is stunning
 (almost 90% in comparison to a standard C Code Version). Well its a project
 with a lot of parallel data processing so quasi made for opencl.

 so why dont OpenCL to do the nasty stuff within the e-libs and open the door
 for user to code with opencl under e?

 So my proposal: An integration of OpenCL within the e libs and a special
 API for e-libs using OpenCL.

are you going to do it? if so, feel welcomed :-)

note: evas, the one that should benefit most from parallel processing,
is already thread enabled... but it was disabled recently since we
were basically blocked on memory bandwidth and it was causing problems
here and there (tho i did not experience any myself).

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[E-devel] This is Very Bad. Enlightenment SIGABRT'd (setting ibar apps)

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys,

This is very strange. On the new Arch Linux install, E17 (svn 43431) 
had been 
behaving perfectly, but now adding/changing ibar applications results in the 
error:

  This is Very Bad. Enlightenment SIGABRT'd

This occurs about 1 out of 4-5 changes to ibar, like adding an 
application or 
rearranging application by moving them up/down in position. The same problem 
effects the Favorites menu setup.

The only changes to the system lately was to simply add a minimal gnome 
desktop. Another symptom of the problem is that the File Manager icon in my 
apps list that used to be konqueror (and still shows the konqueror icon) has 
had its app config changed by something so that it is now nautilus despite the 
icon and name remaining the same as its original konqueror setup.

I suspect the gnome install has overwritten some of the app files with 
the 
gnome equivalent. (i.e. konqueror file manager labeled File Manager has now 
had its 'executable' changed to 'nautilus' but the icon is still konqueror) 
This shouldn't happen.

This is just one example, and I don't know what else was altered with 
the 
addition of gnome. Worse, I don't know what information to look at to try and 
solve this problem.

What can I dump or post that would help get to the bottom of this?


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Re: [E-devel] Proposal: OpenCL-Bindings to fasten up the core libs

2009-11-16 Thread Christian K.
my prob is that i'm known to the usage of the libs (e. g. coding an app
which uses the libs) but i'm not really familiar with the internal structure
and how it works under the hood. especially evas seems to be damn complex.

to the note: yes thats what i thought first, too. but there could also be
some floating point optimized data types in eina and much more.

2009/11/16 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Christian K.
 waffenkl...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  i just started to code some scientific apps on a mac using opencl (also
 my
  first time of coding with opencl) and the plus on performance is stunning
  (almost 90% in comparison to a standard C Code Version). Well its a
 project
  with a lot of parallel data processing so quasi made for opencl.
 
  so why dont OpenCL to do the nasty stuff within the e-libs and open the
 door
  for user to code with opencl under e?
 
  So my proposal: An integration of OpenCL within the e libs and a
 special
  API for e-libs using OpenCL.

 are you going to do it? if so, feel welcomed :-)

 note: evas, the one that should benefit most from parallel processing,
 is already thread enabled... but it was disabled recently since we
 were basically blocked on memory bandwidth and it was causing problems
 here and there (tho i did not experience any myself).

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Re: [E-devel] Proposal: OpenCL-Bindings to fasten up the core libs

2009-11-16 Thread Vincent Torri


On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Christian K. wrote:

 my prob is that i'm known to the usage of the libs (e. g. coding an app
 which uses the libs) but i'm not really familiar with the internal structure
 and how it works under the hood. especially evas seems to be damn complex.

 to the note: yes thats what i thought first, too. but there could also be
 some floating point optimized data types in eina and much more.

maybe you should review what can be optimized with opencl in the efl and 
write something in the wiki (in the Research items section)

Vincent

 2009/11/16 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Christian K.
 waffenkl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 i just started to code some scientific apps on a mac using opencl (also
 my
 first time of coding with opencl) and the plus on performance is stunning
 (almost 90% in comparison to a standard C Code Version). Well its a
 project
 with a lot of parallel data processing so quasi made for opencl.

 so why dont OpenCL to do the nasty stuff within the e-libs and open the
 door
 for user to code with opencl under e?

 So my proposal: An integration of OpenCL within the e libs and a
 special
 API for e-libs using OpenCL.

 are you going to do it? if so, feel welcomed :-)

 note: evas, the one that should benefit most from parallel processing,
 is already thread enabled... but it was disabled recently since we
 were basically blocked on memory bandwidth and it was causing problems
 here and there (tho i did not experience any myself).

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Re: [E-devel] Proposal: OpenCL-Bindings to fasten up the core libs

2009-11-16 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Christian K. wrote:

 my prob is that i'm known to the usage of the libs (e. g. coding an app
 which uses the libs) but i'm not really familiar with the internal structure
 and how it works under the hood. especially evas seems to be damn complex.

 to the note: yes thats what i thought first, too. but there could also be
 some floating point optimized data types in eina and much more.

 maybe you should review what can be optimized with opencl in the efl and
 write something in the wiki (in the Research items section)

Yes, but I dare you to find way to make base data types or code to be
parallelized in real world. For example, you could make
eina_list_sort() parallel, but then we must restrict user function to
be pure  (mathematical sense) and not use or store global memory,
something that I see as possible but not much things are like it.
Other than that, it's not an often used feature.

EFL is quite good and fast on what's done at the moment. Where it was
easily possible to break in parallel, it is (ie: evas rendering),
other parts needs more on re-design the interfaces (ie: evas image
loader to support native async as hardware loaders)... and some just
need care to be done properly, that is the case with Efreet and it's
cpu/memory/io hog implementation.

Again, if you want to experiment and provide patches, fell very
welcome. Just don't think it's something core developers should care
much now.

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Re: [E-devel] elock does not unlock on openSuSE, works fine on Arch Linux - I can't figure it out??

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 20:40:01 and regarding:
 sda hasn't figured it out. sda has only provided a workaround  in the
  wiki.  If you have some debug information, please do post it in the
  ticket.
 

Done.

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Re: [E-devel] This is Very Bad. Enlightenment SIGABRT'd (setting ibar apps)

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On Monday 16 November 2009 15:03:00 you wrote:
 Here is some info on debugging E:
 http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Debugging
 
 And here is more info on the menus and efreet:
 http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_and_Efreet
 
 dh
 

Thanks Christopher,

That's the info I needed. I'll find time tonight or tomorrow and see if 
I can 
grab some meaningful diagnotisics on the problem.

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Re: [E-devel] e17 - howto edit apps that are already installed why can't I edit the .desktop name?

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On Monday 16 November 2009 18:23:29 you wrote:
  Err. I wasn't clear. I'm in E17 and I still can't find where to open EFM
  other than rt-clicking the desktop and choosing file - home or root. I
  was asking how I just open EFM from the cli of a terminal running in E17
  or what executable I need to use to use Apps - Add in E17 to add an
  iconf for EFM :-(
 
 heh, nice question :). imho it was possible some time ago with a help of
 an old enlightenment_remote command. now i don't see that it still
 available (it was renamed to the enlightenment_remote_old while ago).
 seems that the best way is:
 
 Settings - Settings Panel - Input - Key Bindings
 
 and set the kbd shortcut to open a EFM (it works).
 
 regards,
 sda
 

And... there I was feeling like an idiot because I couldn't figure out how to 
launch it from eterm ;-) (that's going to drive people nuts...)

I settled on:

win + h ~/
win + r /
win + w /srv/http   (w for web)

Why no copy to..  move to.. context menu entries? Also, a really slick 
addition to eterm (or whatever the standard xterm for e17 will be) would be an 
Open File Manager here context menu entry like konsole has with its Open 
Browser here context entry.

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[E-devel] Why is the order of 'task-switching' (alt+tab) so bewildering in e17 (and e16) -- Bug or Feature??

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Guy,

I can't figure out why task switching feels so weird in e? I have a 
feeling 
that the task que (or whatever e uses to keep track of task switching) doesn't 
push the current app to the top of the que so you end up having to alt+tab 5 
times just to get back to the application you were just using. It is supposed 
to be like that??

Right now the task switch order is:

kmail (this email)
firefox ??
kwrite (what I was using before kmail)

(18k)
see: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/e/e17/taskswitch-01.jpg

Case-in-point, the app I was using immediately before opening this new 
email 
was kwrite. In the task list pop-up kwrite is now 2 down below firefox that I 
haven't used since before (going backwards): 

  kmail_new_msg - kmail - kwrite - konsole - firefox

I just don't get it in e. I have to hit alt+tab multiple times almost 
every 
time I want to go back to the immediate prior app. Usually, in all other dt's, 
the task switcher takes you back to the app you were using immediately prior 
to the current app. If this is a feature, what's the secret. How do I think 
like the e task switcher to know what I'm going to get when I alt+tab back?

I have noticed that manually focussing the windows with a mouse-click 
to the 
title bar seems to alter the alt+tab order, but I can't determine exactly what 
logic it is using. Here, for purposes of this example, I wanted to be able to 
alt+tab back and forth between this email message and kwrite with a single 
alt+tab, so I have tried manually focussing this email, and then kwrite by 
clicking on the titlebars in sequence, but still firefox is stuck in the 
middle no matter what I do.

Now after using thunar, konqueror, firefox (to confirm the screenshot 
was 
available) bloody kwrite and this email are now side-by-side in the task list 
and I can now alt+tab between them like I originally wanted to do, but how 
they got there by going kmail - thunar - konqueror - firefox - kmail 
completely escapes me :-(

What way should I be looking at tast switching in e so I can understand 
it? 
Is it documented somewhere?

Thanks for any insight you may have.

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[E-devel] e17 default ibox Favorites Menu Add App window size needs to be larger -- text clipped

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys,

This is just a suggestion/FYI for whoever handles default window widths 
etc., 
the width of the ibox add application window with should be a little bigger. 
Currently it clips the text of quite a few applications. Here is a screenshot 
of the first page of listed apps. You can see the Akonadi Console text will 
not fit in the window. This occurs all the way down the list.

I don't know where this is set in the code, but it would be nice if the 
window were able to accomodate the text width by default. Maybe loop strlen 
through the buffer before display and set the default width on appstr_maxlen 
as long as it is reasonable (less than some ultimate maxlen)?

Dunno, just a suggestion ;-)

Additionally, where do you guys want to collect little comments like 
this? 
Some projects and some devs get peaved if you clog the feature request list 
with little things like this, but they have to be cataloged somewhere or they 
will be lost. What is the policy for e?

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Re: [E-devel] e17 default ibox Favorites Menu Add App window size needs to be larger -- text clipped

2009-11-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On Monday 16 November 2009 22:38:07 and regarding:
 not fit in the window. This occurs all the way down the list.
 

Uugh! I forgot the screenshot, sorry.

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/e/e17/menuFavorites.jpg

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Re: [E-devel] Why is the order of 'task-switching' (alt+tab) so bewildering in e17 (and e16) -- Bug or Feature??

2009-11-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:21:46 -0600 David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com said:

 Guy,
 
   I can't figure out why task switching feels so weird in e? I have a
 feeling that the task que (or whatever e uses to keep track of task
 switching) doesn't push the current app to the top of the que so you end up
 having to alt+tab 5 times just to get back to the application you were just
 using. It is supposed to be like that??

it absolutely does push it to the top. in fact there is explicit code to do
just that, and it's doing it here (e17). alt+tab once goes to app 1 (from app
2), then again from app 1 to app 2 - and back (as long as u release alt in
between - that ends the action. if you dont only the finally xzselected window
is put on the top. this is how it works pretty much everywhere). if for any
reason an app is focused in between (and pointer focus can focus anything under
the mouse) then this will be put on the top of the list.

for those that love alt-tab, it tends to be mutually exclusive to
pointer/sloppy focus - so use click to focus. 

   Right now the task switch order is:
 
 kmail (this email)
 firefox ??
 kwrite (what I was using before kmail)
 
 (18k)
 see: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/e/e17/taskswitch-01.jpg
 
   Case-in-point, the app I was using immediately before opening this
 new email was kwrite. In the task list pop-up kwrite is now 2 down below
 firefox that I haven't used since before (going backwards): 
 
   kmail_new_msg - kmail - kwrite - konsole - firefox
 
   I just don't get it in e. I have to hit alt+tab multiple times almost
 every time I want to go back to the immediate prior app. Usually, in all
 other dt's, the task switcher takes you back to the app you were using
 immediately prior to the current app. If this is a feature, what's the
 secret. How do I think like the e task switcher to know what I'm going to get
 when I alt+tab back?
 
   I have noticed that manually focussing the windows with a mouse-click
 to the title bar seems to alter the alt+tab order, but I can't determine
 exactly what logic it is using. Here, for purposes of this example, I wanted
 to be able to alt+tab back and forth between this email message and kwrite
 with a single alt+tab, so I have tried manually focussing this email, and
 then kwrite by clicking on the titlebars in sequence, but still firefox is
 stuck in the middle no matter what I do.
 
   Now after using thunar, konqueror, firefox (to confirm the screenshot
 was available) bloody kwrite and this email are now side-by-side in the task
 list and I can now alt+tab between them like I originally wanted to do, but
 how they got there by going kmail - thunar - konqueror - firefox -
 kmail completely escapes me :-(
 
   What way should I be looking at tast switching in e so I can
 understand it? Is it documented somewhere?
 
   Thanks for any insight you may have.
 
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Re: [E-devel] Problems with transparent edje parts becoming white

2009-11-16 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
I found the exact evas revision which introduces these problems:

r43584 | raster | 2009-11-09 17:18:37 +0200 (Mon, 09 Nov 2009) | 5 lines

god damnt that took some time! fixed some bugs with map + smart objcs +
repainting etc. etc. - seems to be working now in complex smart obj tests and
simple ones.


anything before this doesn't cause any problems.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Viktor Kojouharov
vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 19:10 +0100, Cedric BAIL wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
 morlen...@gmx.net wrote:
  I noticed the same problem when you use background panning. Then wallpaper
  dissapear from time to time, transparence effects are white and when 
  moving a window you get white artefacts:
  http://omicron.homeip.net/files/e_bug.jpg
 
  This appears since a week or two...
 
  Greets,
  Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
 
  On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:45:17PM +0200, Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
  I've recently (from within a week) started seeing this problem on my e17
  machine. This problem can be seen in the following screenshot:
 
  http://img38.imageshack.us/i/screenshottd.png/
 
 
  These modules are located on the desktop gadman. The clock turns white
  on its minute animation, whereas the drawer and places modules turn
  white on mouse-over, where they also invoke some animations over the
  hovered parts.
 
  The transparency returns whenever I change desktops. This could be due
  to the background panning with the desktop flip though.

 Do you see the same problem with latest svn revision ? I did see this
 problem with text object, it wasn't correctly detecting some change
 and evas didn't redraw a part of the object. But it was gone with last
 svn revision.


 It's still here with the latest evas



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