Re: [e-users] Where is the default background?!?!!?

2023-07-06 Thread aguador


El mié, 05-07-2023 a las 08:15 -0400, Jon Craig escribió:
> Ha.  Please do not laugh - Mint. :D
> 
> I used Linux back in the early 90s before there really were "distros"
> and
> have used all kinds of distros since then - Slackware, etc, etc.  I
> picked
> Mint on my work desktop because I wanted something to "install and
> just
> work" - since I'm an active developer and wanted to dump WIndows but
> NOT
> have to do a lot of complex tuning.
> 
> That's been stable as heck since December, but I was getting bored
> with
> Cinnamon's lack of customization, so I looked into i3, Hyprland, all
> the
> current "hotnesses" and then thought, "huh I wonder if E still
> exists!?!?"
> It does.
> 
> I'm in the process of switching to E; just a few things I need to
> resolve
> before I can stop defaulting back to Cinnamon.
> 
No laughter here. I've used Mint in the past. I would not have thought
of it as a base for E, but it's probably a reasonable choice for
stability and being a bit ahead of Deb stable curve and I think someone
out there maintains a PPA for Ubuntu which you may or may not work with
Mint.


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Re: [e-users] Where is the default background?!?!!?

2023-07-06 Thread Benoît-Pierre Demaine
I started using DR16 before 2005. And DR17, I forgot when exactly, but 
way before 2010 (probably first sucessfull compile in 2006 or 2007). 
Still using DR16 in many environments like VNC or VirtualBox because 
it's much faster to setup, and easier to clone conf FOR ME. So I am 
almost a 20y E user.


It was PITA to get a working DR17 before 2010, but it was worth the effort.

Never could get transparency work properly (got it for a few months, but 
was hugely unstable); probably related with the fact I never could 
properly setup my 3D card (which could be a consequence of my heavy use 
of Xinerama, or having never less than 3 videos cards from 2 different 
brands).


E fits my needs; DR17 for daily desktop, DR16 for special uses. It's 
fluent, reliable, discreet, does not consume screen space, does not 
consume CPU, little RAM, can be hot restarted (internal menus) when it 
bugs; can be warm restarted in some case kill -SIGSEGV.


Ocasionally, some keyboard shortcuts may conflict with some app 
shortcuts, and very often with VirtualBox. If those conflicts become 
frequent and ennoying, you can easily redefine them in conf menus.


I have issues with DBUS, but it's probably due to the way I initiate X. 
After exporting system env variables proerly, and at the right place (in 
~/.xinitrc before starting E) , it works better.


E have always been better than other DM to remember windows placement at 
launch (this is critical with Xinerama), and launch X apps at system 
start. But since I have not tried any other DM or WM since over 17 years 
... Also noticed that E properly relocates windows if xinitrc started 
other end user apps before E itself. It may fail to relocate some 
windows in some edge cases (launching the same app several times, 
producing several windows with identical name ... may confuse E after 
hot or warm restart; relocate them manually, and next cold restart will 
be fine - happens only when E has to perform a hot or warm restart 
related woth an OOM, or heavy memory corruction due to Firefox or 
OpenOffice eating all RAM or corrupting the allocator).


PS: I tend to put my desktop to sleep at night; so I usually have a 1 to 
3 months uptime. Firefox and OOo tend to get memory issues after 4 to 8 
weeks of continuous work.


On 05/07/2023 11:54, Jon Craig wrote:

Thank you! :)

BTW, I was so happy to learn E is still "a thing!"  I used it ages and ages
ago when it was more "talked about" and known.  Recently switched to Linux
fulltime and decided to see if I could find E and try to get it running,
only to learn it's still in active development and easy to install from the
main repo. :D



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