Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Bellwether
Hi there, O Wise Ones,

I've just had an error message when trying to start up Entourage (2004,
11.3.3 according to About Entourage), which required me to rebuild the
database -- which I did (about 10 hours to do).

When the rebuild was finished, thousands of messages in various folders were
marked as unread and a few dozen showed up in my Outbox, waiting to be
resent. Weird? or normal? (I immediately went offline and then moved them
back to the Sent Items folder... but they are still bold/unread. No amount
of clicking on them will unbold them, so now my Sent Items has a 116 in
bold behind it. Weird? or normal?)

As I scrolled through the messages, I could see that some messages had been
duplicated and marked unread. So... I'd like to run a remove dupes script,
which brings me to you: Which one do you prefer? Allen's, Barry's, Jolly's,
or Paul's? On Jolly's, what does current selection mean (This script
removes duplicate messages from the current selection in Entourage)?
Currently selected mailbox? Currently selected messages? Something else?

http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/duplicates.html

Thank you for sharing your collective wisdom.

~Linda


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Re: Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Diane Ross
Bellwether wrote:

 I've just had an error message when trying to start up Entourage (2004,
 11.3.3 according to About Entourage), which required me to rebuild the
 database -- which I did (about 10 hours to do).

Get the 11.5 combo and update. :-)
 
 When the rebuild was finished, thousands of messages in various folders were
 marked as unread and a few dozen showed up in my Outbox, waiting to be
 resent. Weird? or normal? (I immediately went offline and then moved them
 back to the Sent Items folder... but they are still bold/unread. No amount
 of clicking on them will unbold them, so now my Sent Items has a 116 in
 bold behind it. Weird? or normal?)

This tells me your database is in bad shape and the rebuild was not
successful.

When Entourage did the rebuild, it made a copy. Be sure you backup the copy
because you might need to revert to this copy to recover. Having a safety
backup might save you during the recovery process.

My suggestion is to open Entourage in the original Identity that was giving
you problems. Manually move out your data then create a new Identity and
import your files. Using Entourage archive (.rge) is the quickest, but there
are scripts that will export as MBOX files and get the subfolders that I
would also do since it's such a simple procedure and having extra backup
never hurts.

How to manually move your data. (when import fails and/or you need to move
to a new Identity same version or revert to an older version)

http://www.entourage.mvps.org/install/manual_install.html
 
 As I scrolled through the messages, I could see that some messages had been
 duplicated and marked unread. So... I'd like to run a remove dupes script,
 which brings me to you: Which one do you prefer? Allen's, Barry's, Jolly's,
 or Paul's? On Jolly's, what does current selection mean (This script
 removes duplicate messages from the current selection in Entourage)?
 Currently selected mailbox? Currently selected messages? Something else?
 
Jolly's script takes a huge amount of time. I would use one of the others,
BUT my advice to create a new Identity will result in better long time
stability.

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Remove many, but not all, messages from server?

2008-08-29 Thread Bellwether
I can't find this in the Help (I searched on Remove Message Server -- let me
know if there's a better search phrase). Is there a way to remove a batch of
messages from the server at once? For example, all the spam in my Junk
folder -- I'd like to highlight 200, 400, 900 message at a time, and then
choose a command to Remove Message from Server rather than removing them all
from a particular account (don't want to remove the good messages from the
server, only the junk) or clicking to do it in each message individually.
The command doesn't appear in the Contextual Menu, and I'm not finding it in
the Menu choices, either -- am I just looking in the wrong place?

Entourage 11.3.3, Mac OS X 10.4.11, PowerMac G5

Thanks,
Linda


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Re: Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Bellwether
On 8/29/08 2:54 PM, Diane Ross wrote:

 Get the 11.5 combo and update. :-)

What will that do? I thought I'd read some reasons to not update on this
list. Does that make the rebuild process run faster? or something else?

 When Entourage did the rebuild, it made a copy. Be sure you backup the copy
 because you might need to revert to this copy to recover. Having a safety
 backup might save you during the recovery process.

The copy is the version that refused to launch, though, precipitating my
need to do the rebuild, so what's the benefit in saving it? Something I'm
missing? At any rate, it's already been deleted. :( 10GB was a lot to keep
laying around, so it's gone.

  Manually move out your data

Will this retain the Sent and Received information, and any attachments?

 Jolly's script takes a huge amount of time.

Any idea on the question of what current selection means in the
description of his script? Other than that Jolly's take a long time, do you
have a suggestion on which of the four you'd recommend/prefer (my original
question)?

 but there are scripts that will export as MBOX files and get the subfolders
 that I would also do since it's such a simple procedure and having extra
 backup never hurts.

I have folders, subfolders, and sub-subfolders. Will these scripts keep the
sent/received information, categories info, and attachments?

If you go the .rge route, will all of my old mail forever be in the
Main.rge folder with subfolders? What happens to new mail? Is there a way
to get the folders set in Rules to not have to open each rule? I have...
almost a hundred rules. Is there a way to export your account info? I have
had some of these email accounts so long I don't remember the passwords, so
recreating the accounts will be... impossible.

Thanks for your help.
~Linda


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Re: Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Diane Ross
Bellwether wrote:

 On 8/29/08 2:54 PM, Diane Ross wrote:
 
 Get the 11.5 combo and update. :-)
 
 What will that do? I thought I'd read some reasons to not update on this
 list. Does that make the rebuild process run faster? or something else?

The 11.3.5 did include several important updates. It's been so long I don't
remember. The updates after that were not as important. The 11.3.5 combo was
rolled into the 11.5 combo so you might as well install it.
 
 When Entourage did the rebuild, it made a copy. Be sure you backup the copy
 because you might need to revert to this copy to recover. Having a safety
 backup might save you during the recovery process.
 
 The copy is the version that refused to launch, though, precipitating my
 need to do the rebuild, so what's the benefit in saving it? Something I'm
 missing? At any rate, it's already been deleted. :( 10GB was a lot to keep
 laying around, so it's gone.

Having the original often helps because it has not gone through the rebuild
process and possibly modified. Do you have a clone of your hd that you could
go back to for a database?
 
  Manually move out your data
 
 Will this retain the Sent and Received information, and any attachments?

It saves attachments. I just dragged a folder to the desktop as MBOX and
dragged it back in. categories were still attached to the messages and the
correct date was still showing.

If you are ever in doubt, do a test yourself on a small folder.
 
 Jolly's script takes a huge amount of time.
 
 Any idea on the question of what current selection means in the
 description of his script? Other than that Jolly's take a long time, do you
 have a suggestion on which of the four you'd recommend/prefer (my original
 question)?

Have no idea on the current selection other than it's what you have
selected.

I like Allen's scripts, but both Barry and Paul are excellent scripters.
 
 but there are scripts that will export as MBOX files and get the subfolders
 that I would also do since it's such a simple procedure and having extra
 backup never hurts.
 
 I have folders, subfolders, and sub-subfolders. Will these scripts keep the
 sent/received information, categories info, and attachments?

Do a quick test and see.
 
 If you go the .rge route, will all of my old mail forever be in the
 Main.rge folder with subfolders?

Watch this movie:

Using Entourage Archive Files
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/video/Import_rge/index.html

What happens to new mail? Is there a way
 to get the folders set in Rules to not have to open each rule? I have...
 almost a hundred rules. Is there a way to export your account info? I have
 had some of these email accounts so long I don't remember the passwords, so
 recreating the accounts will be... impossible.

New mail comes in as before. Perhaps I'm not understanding this question.

You can copy over the Rules file, but you will need to reset each folder. I
suspect you could get rid of many of your rules if you used categories. You
can contact me off list to discuss this.

Accounts are the hard part. Create screenshots. You can find the passwords
in the keychain.

You can try this option, but it's not guaranteed to work, but it's pretty
painless to try.

1. Start with the Identity you want to use that's kerfluey. (obviously
working on a copy)
2. Export everything as Entourage archive (.rge) and select to delete.
3. Import the Entourage archive (.rge) into this Identity and see if it's
working. You will probably still have to reset your rules, but your account
info will still be there.

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Re: Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Bellwether
On 8/29/08 6:25 PM, Diane Ross wrote:

 The 11.3.5 did include several important updates. It's been so long I don't
 remember. The updates after that were not as important. The 11.3.5 combo was
 rolled into the 11.5 combo so you might as well install it.

I have applied the 11.3.5 updater -- Word and Excel tell me 11.3.5, so that
must have been the update that left Entourage's version number unchanged? :)
11.5 has only been out a couple months.

 Do you have a clone of your hd that you could
 go back to for a database?

Not that doesn't have the rebuilt database in it. The rebuild was three or
so weeks ago. My original question is really only about finding out which
script is best to use to remove the duplicates in my current database.

 I have folders, subfolders, and sub-subfolders. Will these scripts keep the
 sent/received information, categories info, and attachments?
 
 Do a quick test and see.

It's a 10GB database. There is no quick test, I think. Folders with
subfolders and sub-subfolders have thousands of messages total.

 You can copy over the Rules file, but you will need to reset each folder. I
 suspect you could get rid of many of your rules if you used categories. You
 can contact me off list to discuss this.

I already use Categories to visually differentiate mail -- I've assigned
each one to a different client so that I can tell by color who is writing me
(for example, six different project editors at the same publisher, each has
a different Category so that her email shows up a different color in the
client's folder -- and the client folder is a subfolder of the main client
folder, which is a subfolder of Folders on my Computer).

 1. Start with the Identity you want to use that's kerfluey. (obviously
 working on a copy)

I don't have a kerfluey Identity any longer -- I rebuilt that database. I
guess I'm confused. Do you mean the Identity I rebuilt?

 3. Import the Entourage archive (.rge) into this Identity and see if it's
 working. 

Couldn't I simply back up this identity, then delete everything in it, and
then import the backup? Or will that not give me a carbon copy of what I've
got now? Why would I need to go the .rge route, I guess is my question?

I really only was looking for people's opinions on which script they would
use to delete the duplicates that magically reappeared. Look where this has
gone -- I never knew I had such problems. Yikes!



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Re: Which script to remove duplicates?

2008-08-29 Thread Diane Ross
Bellwether wrote:

 It's a 10GB database. There is no quick test, I think. Folders with
 subfolders and sub-subfolders have thousands of messages total.

Have you considered archiving some of your older mail in a separate
Identity?
 
 You can copy over the Rules file, but you will need to reset each folder. I
 suspect you could get rid of many of your rules if you used categories. You
 can contact me off list to discuss this.
 
 I already use Categories to visually differentiate mail -- I've assigned
 each one to a different client so that I can tell by color who is writing me
 (for example, six different project editors at the same publisher, each has
 a different Category so that her email shows up a different color in the
 client's folder -- and the client folder is a subfolder of the main client
 folder, which is a subfolder of Folders on my Computer).
 
You aren't taking advantage of how categories can be used in rules. If you
used, if in category client x, move mail to select folder. You can delete
all the if from using email address into one rule.

Assign them one category by client. You can have multiple categories per
contact. This way you will reduce your rules and still have your different
colored entries.
 
 Couldn't I simply back up this identity, then delete everything in it, and
 then import the backup? Or will that not give me a carbon copy of what I've
 got now? Why would I need to go the .rge route, I guess is my question?
 
That was what I was describing with the kerfluey Identity. I consider your
current Identity kerfluey with all the problems it has. You can do it with
the MBOX method, but that does not get tasks, notes, calendar events.
Entourage archive (.rge) is really easier to import and setup.

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iCal event time wrong in Entourage

2008-08-29 Thread Douglas Christopherson
Settings---
Entourage 11.4.0
Entourage preferences: Default time zone for new events set to Pacific
Time
Both my computer and wife's computer set to correct local time... Pacific

Problem---
Receive iCal events, sent by Mail, from wife's G5 in this house
Correct Time-- in iCal 9:30 AM (in message and on my iCal)
Time in Entourage-- 10:30 AM
 Entourage adds When: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 9:30 AM - Monday, January
1, 1601 1:00 AM US/Pacific (10;30 AM Locally)

Questions---
Q1--Time zone error--
How do we ensure both computers, and mail clients are in same time zone?

Q2--Entourage category problem--
Why does category not carry from Ent Mail to Ent Calendar?

Q3--time zone coding problem--
Where is time zone coded in Mac Mail or Mac iCal?
Or is problem in my Entourage settings?

Thanks
Chris Christopherson
PEGGY¹S ALASKAN CABBAGE PATCH BB
A Touch of Old Alaska in Modern Oregon
194 S Second St, Lebanon, OR 97355
BB-Fax 541-258-1774 -- Home 541-451-4910
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