Re: James Cameron and... Europa?

2005-02-14 Thread Jacob Goldstein

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Re: James Cameron and... Europa?

2005-01-28 Thread LARRY KLAES




The official Web site:

http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/aliensofthedeep/

The teacher's guide (PDF file) has a number of pages devoted to 
Europa.

Larry


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  Schnitzius 
  To: europa@klx.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:12 
  AM
  Subject: James Cameron and... 
  Europa?
  "When the director James Cameron proclaimed 
  himself"king of the world" on winning the Oscar for"Titanic," who knew 
  that he also had designs on therest of the solar system? His newest film, 
  "Aliens ofthe Deep," is a grandiose hybrid of underseadocumentary and 
  outer-space fantasy that begins on ourplanet's ocean floor and ends many 
  miles under the icecrust that covers Europa, the second moon of 
  Jupiter."Read on at:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/movies/28alie.htm--Mark__ 
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Re: James Cameron and... Europa?

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Turner

Sounds like the Europa mindshare problem is almost
solved.  No more Huh? whazzat?  After this movie,
all we'll have to deal with is whatever hideous
scientific bloopers the film will inevitably foist off
on an unwitting audience.

The last (and come to think of it, only) mention of a
an outer-planet moon in a major motion picture
that I can remember was in GATTACA.  The protagonist's
mission was going to Titan.  And that's about the
only respect in which this SF instant classic is now
at all dated.  There's a conversation between Vincent
(Ethan Hawke) and the real Jerome (Jude Law) in
which Vincent tells Jerome that Titan is covered by
clouds, and nobody knows what's down there.  Jerome
responds, What if there's ... nothing?  Vincent responds,
Oh, there's something down there all right 

Yes, there is, and Uma Thurman plays a character named
Irene Cassini.  The Cassini probe was launched in the same
year the movie came out, so this can hardly be a
coincidence.  (If anything, it's just yet another wryly
symbolic flourish among many in that film - Vincent
is all about getting to Titan to see what's underneath
the mysterious cover, and Irene is all about getting
at Vincent, to see what's underneath ... oh, you get
the idea.)

Another connection for ya: the director of GATTACA,
Andew Niccol, was slated to direct Terminal - for
which he'd written the story, but Cameron somehow
got it instead - which is kind of a compliment, when
you think about it.

Whatever Cameron comes up with in this update of
the deep-sea drama genre, it couldn't be worse than
Sphere.  (OK, you loved it, flame me now.)

-michael turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Mark Schnitzius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: europa@klx.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: James Cameron and... Europa?



When the director James Cameron proclaimed himself
king of the world on winning the Oscar for
Titanic, who knew that he also had designs on the
rest of the solar system? His newest film, Aliens of
the Deep, is a grandiose hybrid of undersea
documentary and outer-space fantasy that begins on our
planet's ocean floor and ends many miles under the ice
crust that covers Europa, the second moon of Jupiter.


Read on at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/movies/28alie.htm



--Mark



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Re: James Cameron and... Europa?

2005-01-28 Thread LARRY KLAES




2010: The Year We Make Contact, made in 1984,did a pretty nice job in 
depicting Europa,
minus perhaps the chlorophyll (but ya never know).

http://www.sciflicks.com/2010/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086837/

At least Aliens of the Deep will make folks aware of Europa and the wider 
Universe,
and my prediction is while they won't get too "deep" with the information, 
at the
least it won't be wildly inaccurate. We haven't even landed there or 
explored the
ocean yet, so how can it?

Larry



  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Turner 
  To: europa@klx.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:49 
  AM
  Subject: Re: James Cameron and... 
  Europa?
  Sounds like the Europa mindshare problem is 
  almostsolved. No more "Huh? whazzat?" After this movie,all 
  we'll have to deal with is whatever hideousscientific bloopers the film 
  will inevitably foist offon an unwitting audience.The last (and 
  come to think of it, only) mention of aan outer-planet moon in a major 
  motion picturethat I can remember was in GATTACA. The 
  protagonist'smission was going to Titan. And that's about 
  theonly respect in which this SF instant classic is nowat all 
  dated. There's a conversation between Vincent(Ethan Hawke) and the 
  real Jerome (Jude Law) inwhich Vincent tells Jerome that Titan is covered 
  byclouds, and nobody knows what's down there. Jeromeresponds, 
  "What if there's ... nothing?" Vincent responds,"Oh, there's 
  something down there all right "Yes, there is, and Uma Thurman 
  plays a character namedIrene Cassini. The Cassini probe was launched 
  in the sameyear the movie came out, so this can hardly be 
  acoincidence. (If anything, it's just yet another wrylysymbolic 
  flourish among many in that film - Vincentis all about getting to Titan to 
  see what's underneaththe mysterious cover, and Irene is all about 
  gettingat Vincent, to see what's underneath ... oh, you getthe 
  idea.)Another connection for ya: the director of GATTACA,Andew 
  Niccol, was slated to direct "Terminal" - forwhich he'd written the story, 
  but Cameron somehowgot it instead - which is kind of a compliment, 
  whenyou think about it.Whatever Cameron comes up with in this 
  update ofthe deep-sea drama genre, it couldn't be worse 
  than"Sphere." (OK, you loved it, flame me now.)-michael 
  turner[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message 
  - From: "Mark Schnitzius" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: europa@klx.comSent: Friday, January 
  28, 2005 11:12 PMSubject: James Cameron and... 
  Europa?"When the director James Cameron proclaimed 
  himself"king of the world" on winning the Oscar for"Titanic," who knew 
  that he also had designs on therest of the solar system? His newest film, 
  "Aliens ofthe Deep," is a grandiose hybrid of underseadocumentary and 
  outer-space fantasy that begins on ourplanet's ocean floor and ends many 
  miles under the icecrust that covers Europa, the second moon of 
  Jupiter."Read on at:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/movies/28alie.htm--Mark__ 
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Re: James Cameron and... Europa?

2005-01-28 Thread David Nicholle Kay
Hopefully such a film will only increase the public's interest in and 
demand to see Europa up close. If a generation of Mars sci-fi led to the 
Viking missions, let's hope Cameron kicks off something similar for 
Europa.

I'm sure it will be full of hideous errors, like, oh I don't know, an 
unshielded ship passing safely though Jupiter's magnetic field, or 
something like that. If the film raises the profile of Europa as this 
solar system's best prospect for life (except, well, you know), I'll be 
willing to bear any number of basic scietific errors.

Actually, reading the brief description of the film, it sounds like 
Cameron is making a film of his own dream- he is a keen deep-ocean 
expolorer himself, after all.

David K
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:49:29 +0900, Michael Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Sounds like the Europa mindshare problem is almost
solved.  No more Huh? whazzat?  After this movie,
all we'll have to deal with is whatever hideous
scientific bloopers the film will inevitably foist off
on an unwitting audience.
The last (and come to think of it, only) mention of a
an outer-planet moon in a major motion picture
that I can remember was in GATTACA.  The protagonist's
mission was going to Titan.  And that's about the
only respect in which this SF instant classic is now
at all dated.  There's a conversation between Vincent
(Ethan Hawke) and the real Jerome (Jude Law) in
which Vincent tells Jerome that Titan is covered by
clouds, and nobody knows what's down there.  Jerome
responds, What if there's ... nothing?  Vincent responds,
Oh, there's something down there all right 
Yes, there is, and Uma Thurman plays a character named
Irene Cassini.  The Cassini probe was launched in the same
year the movie came out, so this can hardly be a
coincidence.  (If anything, it's just yet another wryly
symbolic flourish among many in that film - Vincent
is all about getting to Titan to see what's underneath
the mysterious cover, and Irene is all about getting
at Vincent, to see what's underneath ... oh, you get
the idea.)
Another connection for ya: the director of GATTACA,
Andew Niccol, was slated to direct Terminal - for
which he'd written the story, but Cameron somehow
got it instead - which is kind of a compliment, when
you think about it.
Whatever Cameron comes up with in this update of
the deep-sea drama genre, it couldn't be worse than
Sphere.  (OK, you loved it, flame me now.)
-michael turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Mark Schnitzius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: europa@klx.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: James Cameron and... Europa?

When the director James Cameron proclaimed himself
king of the world on winning the Oscar for
Titanic, who knew that he also had designs on the
rest of the solar system? His newest film, Aliens of
the Deep, is a grandiose hybrid of undersea
documentary and outer-space fantasy that begins on our
planet's ocean floor and ends many miles under the ice
crust that covers Europa, the second moon of Jupiter.

Read on at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/movies/28alie.htm

--Mark

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