Re: [Evolution] Maildir vs. POP functionality
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 10:51 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Umm, the whole point of maildir is that it doesn't move, it *should* stay where it is. I don't understand this comment, since I never suggested/recommended moving anything. Well, I did explain that I was using POP, and then switched to Maildir, with the note that I was guessing that the behavior was expected. I was hoping that someone could offer some clarification and hints (thanks, Ron, for your sugguestions!). My situation is that I've got a lot of email stored under Evolution's directories, and now I also have a lot of mail in Maidir (didn't realize Maildir's storage behavor right away, because I was moving mail to 'subfolders' in the application, without noticing that the actual mail stayed in Maildir). Yes, but you need an aggravating work-around. If qmail drops each mail into ~/Maildir, then you should think about installing Courier IMAP, and then having Evo access mail via IMAP. Works great for me, and is MUA-independent, so if Evo ever gets cantankerous, you can still read your email. Ron, thanks for your suggestion. I will have to investigate Courier IMAP - that'll be something completely new to me. But, hey, it's something to do :) Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Maildir vs. POP functionality
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 10:28 -0400, Steve Listopad wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 10:51 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Umm, the whole point of maildir is that it doesn't move, it *should* stay where it is. I don't understand this comment, since I never suggested/recommended moving anything. Well, I did explain that I was using POP, and then switched to Maildir, with the note that I was guessing that the behavior was All of us (residential users) use POP. See below. expected. I was hoping that someone could offer some clarification and hints (thanks, Ron, for your sugguestions!). My situation is that I've got a lot of email stored under Evolution's directories, and now I also have a lot of mail in Maidir (didn't realize Maildir's storage behavor right away, because I was moving mail to 'subfolders' in the application, without noticing that the actual mail stayed in Maildir). Yes, but you need an aggravating work-around. If qmail drops each mail into ~/Maildir, then you should think about installing Courier IMAP, and then having Evo access mail via IMAP. Works great for me, and is MUA-independent, so if Evo ever gets cantankerous, you can still read your email. Ron, thanks for your suggestion. I will have to investigate Courier IMAP - that'll be something completely new to me. But, hey, it's something to do :) That's the main reason I did it: geek factor! Now, instead of clicking on the Evo Send/Receive button, fetchmail grabs my email every 5 minutes (6 minutes for the spousal unit), passes it to the SMTP (postfix, in my case), which passes it thru SpamAssassin and on to mailfilter, which drops it into the correct Maildir folder. On the Evo side, an IMAP mail account is the only active account, and is set to check for new email every _2_ minutes, and check for new mail in all folders, so that Evo will see the new mail that mailfilter is dropping in. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. Albert Einstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Maildir vs. POP functionality
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 10:51 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Umm, the whole point of maildir is that it doesn't move, it *should* stay where it is. I don't understand this comment, since I never suggested/recommended moving anything. If you want, you could configure evolution to copy the mail using a filter, like you might with imap. Are you referring to plain old filter emails to sub-folders based on things like mailing list, family email addresses, etc, or some- thing else? I use maildrop hooked into postfix as an MUA-independent filter. It's got a rational filter description language, unlike procmail's line noise. On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 14:54 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 08:29 -0400, Steve Listopad wrote: All, Have qmail running on a linux box. Have Evolution running on same box, as my mail client. Previously, I used POP, with the behavior that I could remove the mail from the Maildir and store it in local (i.e. Evolution-style) directories. I recently switched to mail delivery via the Maildir format (thinking why use POP from the same machine that the mail server's running on). But, the mail stays stored in the Maildir. I suppose this is expected behavior. Is there a way to use Maildir delivery with Evolution, and have it behave like POP in that you can pull the mail from the server into local directories, and delete the mail on the server? Yes, but you need an aggravating work-around. If qmail drops each mail into ~/Maildir, then you should think about installing Courier IMAP, and then having Evo access mail via IMAP. Works great for me, and is MUA-independent, so if Evo ever gets cantankerous, you can still read your email. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. There are times in politics when you must be on the right side and lose. John Kenneth Galbraith signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Maildir vs. POP functionality
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 08:29 -0400, Steve Listopad wrote: All, Have qmail running on a linux box. Have Evolution running on same box, as my mail client. Previously, I used POP, with the behavior that I could remove the mail from the Maildir and store it in local (i.e. Evolution-style) directories. I recently switched to mail delivery via the Maildir format (thinking why use POP from the same machine that the mail server's running on). But, the mail stays stored in the Maildir. I suppose this is expected behavior. Is there a way to use Maildir delivery with Evolution, and have it behave like POP in that you can pull the mail from the server into local directories, and delete the mail on the server? Yes, but you need an aggravating work-around. If qmail drops each mail into ~/Maildir, then you should think about installing Courier IMAP, and then having Evo access mail via IMAP. Works great for me, and is MUA-independent, so if Evo ever gets cantankerous, you can still read your email. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Bill Clinton signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Maildir vs. POP functionality
Umm, the whole point of maildir is that it doesn't move, it *should* stay where it is. If you want, you could configure evolution to copy the mail using a filter, like you might with imap. On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 14:54 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 08:29 -0400, Steve Listopad wrote: All, Have qmail running on a linux box. Have Evolution running on same box, as my mail client. Previously, I used POP, with the behavior that I could remove the mail from the Maildir and store it in local (i.e. Evolution-style) directories. I recently switched to mail delivery via the Maildir format (thinking why use POP from the same machine that the mail server's running on). But, the mail stays stored in the Maildir. I suppose this is expected behavior. Is there a way to use Maildir delivery with Evolution, and have it behave like POP in that you can pull the mail from the server into local directories, and delete the mail on the server? Yes, but you need an aggravating work-around. If qmail drops each mail into ~/Maildir, then you should think about installing Courier IMAP, and then having Evo access mail via IMAP. Works great for me, and is MUA-independent, so if Evo ever gets cantankerous, you can still read your email. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- adfa(evolution-2.4:20087): gtkhtml-WARNING **: cannot find icon: 'stock_insert-url' in gnome ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
