Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
It could be also a missing font on the remote client? Thats happent to me on a Xterminal many years ago. LALO On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 14:06 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 13:28 +0800, Not Zed wrote: It's actually a gnome setting, it used to be in the gnome-toolbar-settings crapplet, might still be there. I think the key is /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style Thanks anyway, NZ :-) As noted in my other replies to this helpful suggestion, I don't use gnome and system-wide settings applicable to gnome have no effect on my copy of evo running under Xfce4 - however I set that key it does nothing to evo's toolbar :-( The problem _seems_ to centre on evo to have got rid of its own control for the toolbar. I can change it with galeon because it has kept its own toolbar control :-/ It's also not a fault of Xfce4 (as far as I see) because I have a copy of evo on one PC with text AND icons inherited by upgrading from earlier evo versions. So, still looking for an evolution-specific, window-manager-independent way of changing evo's toolbar. All suggestions welcome :-) On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I feel like such a _noob_ asking this after using evo for a couple of years now, but here goes: I have text and icons on my toolbar by default - always have since the first version I started with a couple of years ago. Now here's the rub: I'm setting up evo for a new user on a thin-client running on my linux terminal server and they only have icons - no text with it. I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Gavin ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution Este e-mail y cualquier posible archivo adjunto está dirigido únicamente al destinatario del mensaje y contiene información que puede ser confidencial. Si Ud. no es el destinatario correcto por favor notifique al remitente respondiendo este mensaje y elimine inmediatamente el e-mail y los posibles archivos adjuntos al mismo de su sistema. Está prohibida cualquier utilización, difusión o copia de este e-mail por cualquier persona o entidad que no sean las específicas destinatarias del mensaje. ANTEL no acepta ninguna responsabilidad con respecto a cualquier comunicación que haya sido emitida incumpliendo nuestra Política de Seguridad de la Información. . . . . . . . . . This e-mail and any attachment is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not intended recipient please inform the sender immediately, answering this e-mail and delete it as well as the attached files. Any use, circulation or copy of this e-mail by any person or entity that is not the specific addressee(s) is prohibited. ANTEL is not responsible for any communication emitted without respecting our Information Security Policy. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 18:33 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 18:20 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 17:42 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own setting is just stupid and annoying. 1) This is defensible if everyone uses the same desktop, but they don't. (Even if they did, I can easily imagine wanting different settings on different apps). 2) Although copying the same code in every app is wasteful, an elegant solution would have every app *interfacing* to the central control system. The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. 3) The Novell page on Evo (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html) does not mention any dependance on the Gnome desktop. Does anyone on the Evo development team use a desktop other than Gnome? The KDE people solve the problem by providing the qtconfig utility so people can change settings that affect all QT apps without having to run KDE. If Gnome apps all rely on gconfd running then Gnome is broken. how do you figure? you realise that you can change GNOME settings without the need for GNOME-Control-Centre right? There needs to be a fallback to a config file. gconf is effectively a front-end for accessing a config file. I fail to follow your logic. Jeff ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:54 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:38 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. And what if the user prefers a system like TWM? What then? You're assuming that the user runs either GNOME or KDE, but not everyone does. Actually I'm assuming the exact opposite. I'm not asking for special treatment for KDE (though that's the desktop I use) or for any other desktop. I'm saying that access to an app's configuration should be available *from the app itself* (even if there is a desktop with a separate control panel). I hardly consider toolbar text vs icons an Evolution setting. -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.novell.com ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:54 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually I'm assuming the exact opposite. I'm not asking for special treatment for KDE (though that's the desktop I use) or for any other desktop. I'm saying that access to an app's configuration should be available *from the app itself* (even if there is a desktop with a separate control panel). FWIW, the HIG does specify that you should be able to over-ride the toolbar policy on a per-app basis: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/toolbars-controlling-display.html so you could argue that Evolution isn't being fully compliant here. But practically no apps do this, and we were thinking about dropping that guideline anyway as it just adds a bunch more menu items that most people will never touch. So now's the time to tell us if we shouldn't :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:38 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. And what if the user prefers a system like TWM? What then? You're assuming that the user runs either GNOME or KDE, but not everyone does. Actually I'm assuming the exact opposite. I'm not asking for special treatment for KDE (though that's the desktop I use) or for any other desktop. I'm saying that access to an app's configuration should be available *from the app itself* (even if there is a desktop with a separate control panel). 3) The Novell page on Evo (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html) does not mention any dependance on the Gnome desktop. it doesn't depend on GNOME to run, it just depends on the GNOME libs and uses system-wide GNOME settings (which can be set without the GNOME desktop apps installed) you can use gconftool-2 or gconf-editor to change settings. So I don't see the problem with just calling them from Evo. Asking an end-user to execute a Shell command (gconftool-2) to change settings is simply not going to work (I know, I have a lot of them). And using gconf-editor requires familiarity with the tree layout and a fair amount of navigation to get to where the Evo settings are, with lots of opportunities for shooting oneself in the foot on the way. Does anyone on the Evo development team use a desktop other than Gnome? NotZed doesn't use GNOME Glad to hear it (not that I have anything against Gnome). poc ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 13:16 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:54 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually I'm assuming the exact opposite. I'm not asking for special treatment for KDE (though that's the desktop I use) or for any other desktop. I'm saying that access to an app's configuration should be available *from the app itself* (even if there is a desktop with a separate control panel). FWIW, the HIG does specify that you should be able to over-ride the toolbar policy on a per-app basis: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/toolbars-controlling-display.html so you could argue that Evolution isn't being fully compliant here. But practically no apps do this, and we were thinking about dropping that guideline anyway as it just adds a bunch more menu items that most people will never touch. So now's the time to tell us if we shouldn't :) My comments weren't particularly linked to the HIG (which I haven't read), but now that you mention it I'm glad to see that someone was thinking along the same lines :-) I would vote for keeping the policy (and for prodding developers to implement it). However in all honesty I couldn't care less about the specific problem of text vs icons. What irritates me is that the user is expected to *know* that this is configured somewhere else and not from within Evo. Just how is he supposed to find out? Is it in the Evo manual? I've no idea since the manual is not searchable (a far more important defect IMHO). poc ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 18:20 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 17:42 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own setting is just stupid and annoying. 1) This is defensible if everyone uses the same desktop, but they don't. (Even if they did, I can easily imagine wanting different settings on different apps). it's defensible anyway. 2) Although copying the same code in every app is wasteful indeed it is , an elegant solution would have every app *interfacing* to the central control system. it does, gconf The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. And what if the user prefers a system like TWM? What then? You're assuming that the user runs either GNOME or KDE, but not everyone does. 3) The Novell page on Evo (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html) does not mention any dependance on the Gnome desktop. it doesn't depend on GNOME to run, it just depends on the GNOME libs and uses system-wide GNOME settings (which can be set without the GNOME desktop apps installed) you can use gconftool-2 or gconf-editor to change settings. Does anyone on the Evo development team use a desktop other than Gnome? NotZed doesn't use GNOME Jeff ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 12:36 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Actually I'm assuming the exact opposite. I'm not asking for special treatment for KDE (though that's the desktop I use) or for any other desktop. I'm saying that access to an app's configuration should be available *from the app itself* (even if there is a desktop with a separate control panel). I hardly consider toolbar text vs icons an Evolution setting. Look at it this way: the Mail Preferences dialogue allows me to use standard fonts or to select fonts specific to Evo. Why allow this but not allow setting the toolbar thing? poc ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
gnome is not a window manager, btw. I dont use a gnome window manager either, yet i have those other applications available (referring to your last mail), if i want. You need to set it to the correct value or it will be treated as invalid. I use text, maybe you want both, i'm not sure what it is, because i find icons a useless waste of space. Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own setting is just stupid and annoying. On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 14:06 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 13:28 +0800, Not Zed wrote: It's actually a gnome setting, it used to be in the gnome-toolbar-settings crapplet, might still be there. I think the key is /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style Thanks anyway, NZ :-) As noted in my other replies to this helpful suggestion, I don't use gnome and system-wide settings applicable to gnome have no effect on my copy of evo running under Xfce4 - however I set that key it does nothing to evo's toolbar :-( The problem _seems_ to centre on evo to have got rid of its own control for the toolbar. I can change it with galeon because it has kept its own toolbar control :-/ It's also not a fault of Xfce4 (as far as I see) because I have a copy of evo on one PC with text AND icons inherited by upgrading from earlier evo versions. So, still looking for an evolution-specific, window-manager-independent way of changing evo's toolbar. All suggestions welcome :-) On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I feel like such a _noob_ asking this after using evo for a couple of years now, but here goes: I have text and icons on my toolbar by default - always have since the first version I started with a couple of years ago. Now here's the rub: I'm setting up evo for a new user on a thin-client running on my linux terminal server and they only have icons - no text with it. I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Gavin ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- adfa(evolution-2.4:20087): gtkhtml-WARNING **: cannot find icon: 'stock_insert-url' in gnome ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 17:42 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own setting is just stupid and annoying. 1) This is defensible if everyone uses the same desktop, but they don't. (Even if they did, I can easily imagine wanting different settings on different apps). 2) Although copying the same code in every app is wasteful, an elegant solution would have every app *interfacing* to the central control system. The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. 3) The Novell page on Evo (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html) does not mention any dependance on the Gnome desktop. Does anyone on the Evo development team use a desktop other than Gnome? poc ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 18:20 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 17:42 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own setting is just stupid and annoying. 1) This is defensible if everyone uses the same desktop, but they don't. (Even if they did, I can easily imagine wanting different settings on different apps). 2) Although copying the same code in every app is wasteful, an elegant solution would have every app *interfacing* to the central control system. The fact that they don't means there is an assumption that Gnome is the desktop and the user will just click on the Gnome Control Panel. 3) The Novell page on Evo (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html) does not mention any dependance on the Gnome desktop. Does anyone on the Evo development team use a desktop other than Gnome? The KDE people solve the problem by providing the qtconfig utility so people can change settings that affect all QT apps without having to run KDE. If Gnome apps all rely on gconfd running then Gnome is broken. There needs to be a fallback to a config file. Lee ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 13:28 +0800, Not Zed wrote: It's actually a gnome setting, it used to be in the gnome-toolbar-settings crapplet, might still be there. I think the key is /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style Thanks anyway, NZ :-) As noted in my other replies to this helpful suggestion, I don't use gnome and system-wide settings applicable to gnome have no effect on my copy of evo running under Xfce4 - however I set that key it does nothing to evo's toolbar :-( The problem _seems_ to centre on evo to have got rid of its own control for the toolbar. I can change it with galeon because it has kept its own toolbar control :-/ It's also not a fault of Xfce4 (as far as I see) because I have a copy of evo on one PC with text AND icons inherited by upgrading from earlier evo versions. So, still looking for an evolution-specific, window-manager-independent way of changing evo's toolbar. All suggestions welcome :-) On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I feel like such a _noob_ asking this after using evo for a couple of years now, but here goes: I have text and icons on my toolbar by default - always have since the first version I started with a couple of years ago. Now here's the rub: I'm setting up evo for a new user on a thin-client running on my linux terminal server and they only have icons - no text with it. I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Gavin ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 18:25 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:10 +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. -snip- In gconf its under /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style Got it! Spoke too soon. I went to my user's desktop (all users running Xfce) and changes in gconf had NO impact on their screen display of icons when restarting evo :-( I have them in my instance of evo on my Xfce desktop, but they've been inherited from earlier versions - not so the new users added to my system. So, still looking for a way to do this. Thanks for any pointers to such a stupidly simple setting. Kick me in another direction this time, please :-) Gavin. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:10 +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. Theres a gnome-wide setting for this. Someone I'm sure will comment if it can be overridden on a per-application basis (which may or may not be what you want). On my FC4 system its available under Preferences - Menu and Toolbars - Toolbar button labels And in Debian GNOME 2.10, it's Foot-Desktop-Menus and Toolbars -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. George S. Patton, Jr. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
Wow, that was a waste of everyones time.
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 21:08 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote:
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 17:42 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
You need to set it to the correct value or it will be treated as
invalid.
Obviously. As stated in at least two previous replies, it doesn't
matter what I set in gconf or gnome-control-centre (I don't have full
gnome installed) the UI totally ignores it. My users who have text and
icons can NOT change it otherwise, those who don't have that also can't
change it to get them. Somehow they are just there with no
consistency or changeability across my small user base of five.
I use text, maybe you want both, i'm not sure what it is, because i
find icons a useless waste of space.
Maybe, but I don't agree. I'm just responding to my user's needs. Two
of the affected users are 6 7 years old and just understanding enough
to send their first emails. I aim to make the UI as obvious and simple
as possible for them, but evo is not playing ball. Maybe I'll put them
on thunderbird instead if this can't be solved - I've spent enough time
on it already :-{. I appreciate the time others have spent helping me,
too, but maybe this is just an intractable problem :-(
Evolution never had its own setting for the toolbar, nor should it, it
is a desktop-wide feel thing, having every application use its own
setting is just stupid and annoying.
Maybe, but I don't agree.
-snip-
In case it was a window manager issue I posted this problem to the Xfce
list. I consulted them because I run Xfce on all clients. It was said
by a developer on the Xfce list that he thought this is a known bug in
gnome and/or GTK. Perhaps it is, but __IT only affects evolution__.
Gavin.
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Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 14:06 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: The problem _seems_ to centre on evo to have got rid of its own control for the toolbar. I can change it with galeon because it has kept its own toolbar control :-/ It's also not a fault of Xfce4 (as far as I see) because I have a copy of evo on one PC with text AND icons inherited by upgrading from earlier evo versions. So, still looking for an evolution-specific, window-manager-independent way of changing evo's toolbar. All suggestions welcome :-) Use the source, Luke. ;-) Seriously, changing the gconf setting _should_ help, but it's probably not picked up by gconfd (GNOME apps use gconfd to interact with the gconf settings; gconfd likes to keep stuff in memory instead of re-parsing XML files). You might try a pkill gconfd on the user's system and then restart evolution. That _should_ start a new instance of gconfd as well and it _should_ pick up the changes. (I just confirmed it with gnome-terminal settings) Let me know if this works for you. Steven -- Friends, Romans, countrymen! Leave me alone! -- Bucky Katt ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. Theres a gnome-wide setting for this. Someone I'm sure will comment if it can be overridden on a per-application basis (which may or may not be what you want). On my FC4 system its available under Preferences - Menu and Toolbars - Toolbar button labels In gconf its under /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Well I had to look for this, but had an idea where I had seen it before... Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I feel like such a _noob_ asking this after using evo for a couple of years now, but here goes: I have text and icons on my toolbar by default - always have since the first version I started with a couple of years ago. Now here's the rub: I'm setting up evo for a new user on a thin-client running on my linux terminal server and they only have icons - no text with it. It should be grabbing the setting from GNOME. Open up the Menu and Toolbar Preferences (gnome-ui-properties should be the executable name), and select Text below icons. Does the text come back? I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Gavin ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Michael R Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] burner | suppressingfire | firestorm | phoenix | firefighter ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:10 +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. Theres a gnome-wide setting for this. Someone I'm sure will comment if it can be overridden on a per-application basis (which may or may not be what you want). On my FC4 system its available under Preferences - Menu and Toolbars - Toolbar button labels Ahh, that's why it isn't obvious :-) I don't use gnome, nor have used for a VERY long time. I'm an Xfce man, nowadays :-) so don't even think about system-wide gnome settings. This highlights one of my pet peeves in the way that gnome-based apps have moved more and more of the settings away from the individual app to centralised management over the years. Galeon is another gnome-based app that is the backbone of my system, but it's settings have been gutted over the years so hardly anything remains in the app itself :-( In gconf its under /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style Got it! PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Well I had to look for this, but had an idea where I had seen it before... Nigel. Thanks a lot. Gavin. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] toolbar display text
It's actually a gnome setting, it used to be in the gnome-toolbar-settings crapplet, might still be there. I think the key is /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:34 +0800, Gavin Chester wrote: I feel like such a _noob_ asking this after using evo for a couple of years now, but here goes: I have text and icons on my toolbar by default - always have since the first version I started with a couple of years ago. Now here's the rub: I'm setting up evo for a new user on a thin-client running on my linux terminal server and they only have icons - no text with it. I've read the help, I've gone through gconf-editor with a fine-tooth comb, I've gone through the settings, and I've googled on it. I just can't find any reference to text AND icons in evo. Put me out of my misery and kick me in the right direction :-) PLEASE. PS: I'm sure someone will tell me the setting is right in front of my nose and what's wrong with me :-( Gavin ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- adfa(evolution-2.4:20087): gtkhtml-WARNING **: cannot find icon: 'stock_insert-url' in gnome ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
