[Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Axel
Hey Team!

Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva 2008.1 
Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works better then my 
latest all backports on Kubuntu. 

I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2 freezes 
the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This has one benefit, 
as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is frozen and the window color 
changes, when the app is working again. This also helps. It freezes throughout 
the day for 2-3 seconds approx 10-15 times (i did not count it). 

All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. 

If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know.

Axel


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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:24 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:08 +1000, Greg Vickers wrote:
  3) select the quote.  Why are these or a similar option 
  not available in Evolution?
 
 You can do this, if I understand what you mean.  Just select some subset
 of the message with your mouse before you click Reply, and only that
 part of your message will be quoted in the reply.  I just did that to
 create this message, selecting only your comment above.
 
 
 Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible
 including different quoting styles, etc.  Specifying where the cursor
 should start in the composer seems like a subset of that.  Maybe this is
 something a plugin could do?

I'm all for flexibility, but as the saying goes the perfect is the
enemy of the good. If we wait for someone to write a plugin with
various bells and whistles it might never happen, whereas the simple
option I'm asking for would presumably take a lot less effort.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread HggdH


 Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible
 including different quoting styles, etc.  Specifying where the cursor
 should start in the composer seems like a subset of that.  Maybe this is
 something a plugin could do?

+1.

I find myself every so often changing the settings to Quote Msg/Inline,
depending if I am replying to lists/non-customers or to one of my
customers (usually running under Notes or Exchange).

It would be nice to have an option to selectively Quote/Inline, either
at the account level (for me, that would be enough) or at the contact
level.

- 

..hggdh..


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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
 yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
 then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
 can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed.

About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1],
where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled.
No change for cursor positioning, though.

Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too).
Milan

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469292

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Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Crha
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 15:18 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 Here's my situation (and I am sure I'm not the only one):
 
 I have a calendar server at my job, which I configured evo to use.  I
 can enter events and see the calendar just fine.
 
 I also have my personal calendar here locally.  No server, just the
 local evolution supported calendar.
 
 It's perfectly feasible that I could have other calendars via calendar
 servers too, but for now lets just keep it simple with one calendar
 server for work and a personal calendar for home.
 
 So, now let's say I have a doctor's appointment during what would
 normally be a work day.  I enter that into my personal calendar with all
 of the details.
 
 Really, though I also want the work calendar to reflect that as busy
 time so that people don't see that time as available and book me into a
 meeting during it.
 
 I also don't really want the details of my doctor's appointment on the
 work calendar, so using that calendar for my personal appointments is
 not an option either.
 
 What solutions exist other than to manually double book my personal time
 away from work into both calendars?
 
 Thanx,
 b.

Hi,
I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing:
even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars, or also Free/Busy
servers, (Edit-Preferences-Calendar and Tasks), then what about using
company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment? It
depends on your company calendar, if it supports it and treats it
properly, but it would be easier than the other things, I guess.
You can find it in editing dialog of the appointment under menu
Options-Classifications.
Bye,
Milan

(Note: I do not know much about free/busy servers or how to use
published calendars, so do not ask me.)

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Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers

2008-05-29 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 
   Hi,

Hi.

 I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing:
 even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars,

Publishing in what way?

 or also Free/Busy
 servers, (Edit-Preferences-Calendar and Tasks),

That depends on people wanting to book meetings in my corporate calendar
to observe the free/busy from my personal calendar.  What if I have many
personal calendars?  What if my corporate calendar server won't reflect
the free/busy of my personal calendar?

 then what about using
 company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment?

And what happens when I've used the company calendar to book my next
year's worth of personal appointments and then I get fired, or the
company calendar's data store crashes and there is no back up?  Or what
if I have privacy concerns about putting my personal data on the company
calendar server.  Or what if my company forbids me from putting personal
events in their calendar?

 It
 depends on your company calendar,

It *way* depends on it.

Thanx for the thoughts though.

b.



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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
 yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
 then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
 can
 say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. 

Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting
reply.  This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if
overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail.  I really miss it when I
have to use a webmail program or that windows program.


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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:08 -0400, Greg Vickers wrote:
 If I'm feeling exceptionally lazy or have had a 
 bad day, or am replying in kind to a top poster, I'll just top post 

The only thing worse than top post and quote everything, is a thread
with mixed top and bottom posting.  You can't follow anything.

  
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 07:54 -0400, Axel wrote:
 Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva
 2008.1 Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works
 better then my latest all backports on Kubuntu. 
 
 I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2
 freezes the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This
 has one benefit, as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is
 frozen and the window color changes, when the app is working again.
 This also helps. It freezes throughout the day for 2-3 seconds approx
 10-15 times (i did not count it). 
 
 All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. 
 
 If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know.

I have the luxury of 3 or 4 computers attached to a kvm at my desk.  I
was using Ubuntu for evo because I preferred debian administration to
rpm-based.  Evo worked fine through 2.12 on gutsy (7.10), but
experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy
(8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1.

I switched back to SLED 10.1 which only experiences a disconnect a month
or more (Novell/evo 2.6)  I haven't mentioned this before because I
think with the Novel tweaks, the comparison is not fair.  2.6 seems to
have identical functionality to 2.22.


  
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:12 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
 but experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy
 (8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1.

I think I've mentioned this before recently, but FYI: this was tracked
down to a bug in OpenLDAP (which Evo Exchange uses to connect to the
Exchange Global Address Server).  This same bug was causing all kinds of
other issues in places like xscreensaver, etc.  See this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openldap2.3/+bug/215904

and this:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512605

A fix for this has been uploaded to the Hardy proposed repository
within the last day or two.  Proposed is not enabled by default but
it's easy to enable (go to System - Administration - Software Sources,
the Updates tab, and select Pre-released updates (hardy-proposed)).

With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable for
me.

FWIW, YMMV, etc.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
Thanks.  I'll give it a try.



On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable
 for
 me.
 
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Axel
Art please also send an update - not that I dont trust Paul, but its good to 
get re-verified by others too. 
I might move back ;-) Its so quick to migrate my /documents and the automated 
evo backup stuff. 

BTW I agreed with debian update approach. I also like it much better then the 
rpm approach. Mandriva did a good job in improving it though. What I like is, 
that Mandriva worked very well in integrating the different tools, writing some 
improved configuration interface, etc. It feels a bit more mature and neat from 
an interface point of view. Plus some added utilities. 

The big picture of course is, that its almost the same. I mean OOO, Evo, 
xserver is no difference. And the channels in Ubuntu are very well managed, 
more updates are faster available - just a view of a few days though. 

Cheers,
Axel



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Thanks.  I'll give it a try.



On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable
 for
 me.
 
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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:28 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
  yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
  then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
  can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed.
 
 About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1],
 where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled.
 No change for cursor positioning, though.

The discussion in BZ is somewhat confusing. There's reference to a
top-posting option, but turning it off doesn't disable top-posting.
What's that about?

 Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too).
   Milan

I'll add a comment to the BZ page.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:58 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  
  I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you
 find
  yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top,
 and
  then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
  can
  say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. 
 
 Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting
 reply.  This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if
 overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail.  I really miss it when I
 have to use a webmail program or that windows program.

I agree. I use it all the time. However the only difference is that you
don't have to delete the stupid extra line at the top. Otherwise it
still leaves the cursor in wrong place.

If the logic of not including the extra line is that the user probably
doesn't want to include a salutation, why isn't the cursor placed at the
bottom?

poc

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[Evolution] Default outgoing account

2008-05-29 Thread Caleb Marcus
In my Evolution setup, I have two accounts... an IMAP/SMTP email
account, and an nntp news account. I have the email account set as my
default account, yet when I compose a new message, the news account is
what's in the From dropdown by default. How can I fix this?

Another issue I have is that the way Evolution is designed, every
account must have an outgoing server... even a news account. It didn't
give me the option of selecting no outgoing server type, I had to select
either Sendmail or SMTP, even though I didn't plan on sending any actual
email on that account.


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