[Evolution] Evolution Update
Hey Team! Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva 2008.1 Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works better then my latest all backports on Kubuntu. I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2 freezes the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This has one benefit, as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is frozen and the window color changes, when the app is working again. This also helps. It freezes throughout the day for 2-3 seconds approx 10-15 times (i did not count it). All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know. Axel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:24 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:08 +1000, Greg Vickers wrote: 3) select the quote. Why are these or a similar option not available in Evolution? You can do this, if I understand what you mean. Just select some subset of the message with your mouse before you click Reply, and only that part of your message will be quoted in the reply. I just did that to create this message, selecting only your comment above. Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible including different quoting styles, etc. Specifying where the cursor should start in the composer seems like a subset of that. Maybe this is something a plugin could do? I'm all for flexibility, but as the saying goes the perfect is the enemy of the good. If we wait for someone to write a plugin with various bells and whistles it might never happen, whereas the simple option I'm asking for would presumably take a lot less effort. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible including different quoting styles, etc. Specifying where the cursor should start in the composer seems like a subset of that. Maybe this is something a plugin could do? +1. I find myself every so often changing the settings to Quote Msg/Inline, depending if I am replying to lists/non-customers or to one of my customers (usually running under Notes or Exchange). It would be nice to have an option to selectively Quote/Inline, either at the account level (for me, that would be enough) or at the contact level. - ..hggdh.. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1], where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled. No change for cursor positioning, though. Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too). Milan [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469292 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 15:18 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Here's my situation (and I am sure I'm not the only one): I have a calendar server at my job, which I configured evo to use. I can enter events and see the calendar just fine. I also have my personal calendar here locally. No server, just the local evolution supported calendar. It's perfectly feasible that I could have other calendars via calendar servers too, but for now lets just keep it simple with one calendar server for work and a personal calendar for home. So, now let's say I have a doctor's appointment during what would normally be a work day. I enter that into my personal calendar with all of the details. Really, though I also want the work calendar to reflect that as busy time so that people don't see that time as available and book me into a meeting during it. I also don't really want the details of my doctor's appointment on the work calendar, so using that calendar for my personal appointments is not an option either. What solutions exist other than to manually double book my personal time away from work into both calendars? Thanx, b. Hi, I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing: even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars, or also Free/Busy servers, (Edit-Preferences-Calendar and Tasks), then what about using company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment? It depends on your company calendar, if it supports it and treats it properly, but it would be easier than the other things, I guess. You can find it in editing dialog of the appointment under menu Options-Classifications. Bye, Milan (Note: I do not know much about free/busy servers or how to use published calendars, so do not ask me.) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: Hi, Hi. I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing: even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars, Publishing in what way? or also Free/Busy servers, (Edit-Preferences-Calendar and Tasks), That depends on people wanting to book meetings in my corporate calendar to observe the free/busy from my personal calendar. What if I have many personal calendars? What if my corporate calendar server won't reflect the free/busy of my personal calendar? then what about using company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment? And what happens when I've used the company calendar to book my next year's worth of personal appointments and then I get fired, or the company calendar's data store crashes and there is no back up? Or what if I have privacy concerns about putting my personal data on the company calendar server. Or what if my company forbids me from putting personal events in their calendar? It depends on your company calendar, It *way* depends on it. Thanx for the thoughts though. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting reply. This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail. I really miss it when I have to use a webmail program or that windows program. -- Art Alexion MIS x3075 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:08 -0400, Greg Vickers wrote: If I'm feeling exceptionally lazy or have had a bad day, or am replying in kind to a top poster, I'll just top post The only thing worse than top post and quote everything, is a thread with mixed top and bottom posting. You can't follow anything. -- Art Alexion MIS x3075 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 07:54 -0400, Axel wrote: Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva 2008.1 Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works better then my latest all backports on Kubuntu. I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2 freezes the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This has one benefit, as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is frozen and the window color changes, when the app is working again. This also helps. It freezes throughout the day for 2-3 seconds approx 10-15 times (i did not count it). All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know. I have the luxury of 3 or 4 computers attached to a kvm at my desk. I was using Ubuntu for evo because I preferred debian administration to rpm-based. Evo worked fine through 2.12 on gutsy (7.10), but experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy (8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1. I switched back to SLED 10.1 which only experiences a disconnect a month or more (Novell/evo 2.6) I haven't mentioned this before because I think with the Novel tweaks, the comparison is not fair. 2.6 seems to have identical functionality to 2.22. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philadelphia, PA 19144www.rhd.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:12 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: but experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy (8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1. I think I've mentioned this before recently, but FYI: this was tracked down to a bug in OpenLDAP (which Evo Exchange uses to connect to the Exchange Global Address Server). This same bug was causing all kinds of other issues in places like xscreensaver, etc. See this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openldap2.3/+bug/215904 and this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512605 A fix for this has been uploaded to the Hardy proposed repository within the last day or two. Proposed is not enabled by default but it's easy to enable (go to System - Administration - Software Sources, the Updates tab, and select Pre-released updates (hardy-proposed)). With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable for me. FWIW, YMMV, etc. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update
Thanks. I'll give it a try. On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable for me. -- Art Alexion MIS x3075 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update
Art please also send an update - not that I dont trust Paul, but its good to get re-verified by others too. I might move back ;-) Its so quick to migrate my /documents and the automated evo backup stuff. BTW I agreed with debian update approach. I also like it much better then the rpm approach. Mandriva did a good job in improving it though. What I like is, that Mandriva worked very well in integrating the different tools, writing some improved configuration interface, etc. It feels a bit more mature and neat from an interface point of view. Plus some added utilities. The big picture of course is, that its almost the same. I mean OOO, Evo, xserver is no difference. And the channels in Ubuntu are very well managed, more updates are faster available - just a view of a few days though. Cheers, Axel - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Art Alexion [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: evolution-list@gnome.org Gesendet: Freitag, den 30. Mai 2008, 00:44:14 Uhr Betreff: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update Thanks. I'll give it a try. On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable for me. -- Art Alexion MIS x3075 __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:28 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1], where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled. No change for cursor positioning, though. The discussion in BZ is somewhat confusing. There's reference to a top-posting option, but turning it off doesn't disable top-posting. What's that about? Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too). Milan I'll add a comment to the BZ page. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:58 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting reply. This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail. I really miss it when I have to use a webmail program or that windows program. I agree. I use it all the time. However the only difference is that you don't have to delete the stupid extra line at the top. Otherwise it still leaves the cursor in wrong place. If the logic of not including the extra line is that the user probably doesn't want to include a salutation, why isn't the cursor placed at the bottom? poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Default outgoing account
In my Evolution setup, I have two accounts... an IMAP/SMTP email account, and an nntp news account. I have the email account set as my default account, yet when I compose a new message, the news account is what's in the From dropdown by default. How can I fix this? Another issue I have is that the way Evolution is designed, every account must have an outgoing server... even a news account. It didn't give me the option of selecting no outgoing server type, I had to select either Sendmail or SMTP, even though I didn't plan on sending any actual email on that account. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list