Re: [expert] KDE start up is too slow!!

2003-10-06 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:44 pm, many eyes noted that Kaveh Gh wrote:
 I've installed mdk-9.0 on a 40Gb western-digital
 (WDC-4000C) HDD several times and never seen any
 problem with installation and boot-up of system or KDE
 start-up.

snip

No problem with the hard drive? hdparm -tT /dev/hda might tell you something?

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Re: [expert] Print problem

2003-10-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 11:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anne Wilson said:
  On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 9:14 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  I sent some large print jobs from kword to my usb printer.  Just
  before the end of the first one the printer stopped.  I can't
  get
  it working again.
 
  I have tried deleting all jobs from the print queue, but every
  time
  I try to send a job it says 'Media Tray may be empty' - which it
  isn't.
 
  Any ideas, anyone?
 
  Anne
 
  Brain often starts working once I've pressed 'send' g  I sent
  an email to print and it was OK, so I figured that there was
  something
  in the kmail printout that was troubling it.  As there were large
  graphics on the pages I sent it one 'current page' at a time, and
  it's printing fine now.
 
  Anne

 That's not bad, I usually have to get a few answers back before
 the obvious hits me in the head :)

Actually, it's not entirely solved.  Several pages have printed ok, 
but one page insists on printing with a large white square in one 
picture.  I've tried it 3 times, with the identical result.  Much 
head-scratching g

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, ed tharp wrote:

 On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 18:14, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 
  So it comes down to what appears to be permissions on /dev/video0, since root 
  can run it.
  
  I've changed it (as has Anne) umpteen times, even opening it to 777 status 
  but no go, I've also added every group (but root) to my user account and that 
  does not make a diff. either.
  
  We're wide open for ideas here. :-)
 who owns /dev/v4l/video?
 ie; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/vid ('tab' key pressed)
 video   video0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/video0
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   10 Sep 28 16:07 /dev/video0 -
 v4l/video  0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/video
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   10 Sep 28 16:07 /dev/video -
 v4l/video0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/v4l/v
 vbi0video0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/v4l/video0
 crw---1 et   sys   81,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/v4l/video0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# ls -all /dev/v4l/
 total 0
 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 ./
 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 ../
 crw---1 et   sys   81, 224 Dec 31  1969 vbi0
 crw---1 et   sys   81,   0 Dec 31  1969 video0

It may be worth noting that permissions on this and many other devices are 
controlled by the settings within one's /etc/security/console.perms file.

I wrestled with a similar problem recently, trying to get xawtv to work 
reliably on a 9.1 system with an older, Mach64-based ATI TV Wonder card. I 
ended up having to go with using sudo to run it, and created a menu entry 
and a desktop icon that invoked xawtv via sudo for the system's owner. So 
far, so good, but I would have preferred to find a more elegant solution.

As this isn't a problem on 9.0 and earlier releases, something is borked 
in this regard on 9.1, I strongly suspect ... but what?

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Re: [expert] Print problem

2003-10-06 Thread R N dev
Hi Anne,
I suppose you use cups, then try to go on cups
configure web page and look if the printer is on
otherwise restart it and should work again.

Angelo

--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 11:10 pm,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anne Wilson said:
   On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 9:14 pm, Anne Wilson
 wrote:
   I sent some large print jobs from kword to my
 usb printer.  Just
   before the end of the first one the printer
 stopped.  I can't
   get
   it working again.
  
   I have tried deleting all jobs from the print
 queue, but every
   time
   I try to send a job it says 'Media Tray may be
 empty' - which it
   isn't.
  
   Any ideas, anyone?
  
   Anne
  
   Brain often starts working once I've pressed
 'send' g  I sent
   an email to print and it was OK, so I figured
 that there was
   something
   in the kmail printout that was troubling it.  As
 there were large
   graphics on the pages I sent it one 'current
 page' at a time, and
   it's printing fine now.
  
   Anne
 
  That's not bad, I usually have to get a few
 answers back before
  the obvious hits me in the head :)
 
 Actually, it's not entirely solved.  Several pages
 have printed ok, 
 but one page insists on printing with a large white
 square in one 
 picture.  I've tried it 3 times, with the identical
 result.  Much 
 head-scratching g
 
 Anne
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Re: [expert] How to make adsl-start available for users?

2003-10-06 Thread R N dev
Or you can use rp-pppoe-gui packet at
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ 
so that you have an icon and you can allow
users to use adsl.

Angelo

--- Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote:
  Hello
  
  I can only adsl-start by logging as root.  How can
 I make adsl-start available 
  for all users?  I tried sudousers but no avail (It
 is more than likely that I 
  did something wrong but I don't know what).
  
  Many thanks
  
  Ed
  
  
 As root in a terminal, call visudo.  This is the vi
 editor operating on 
 /etc/sudoers.  Press 'I' to insert some text and,
 since I have done this 
 for me, and not wanting to give a password when I
 call adsl-start, you 
 might want to insert something like the following if
 you want that:
 
 rolfALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/adsl-start,
 /usr/sbin/adsl-stop, 
 /usr/bin/rdate
 
 and so forth.  I put it right under root's line.  To
 save, press 
 'Escape' and type :wq  The command to execute is
 sudo 
 /usr/sbin/adsl-start, for example.  I create an icon
 on the desktop with 
 that as the command to execute.
 
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[expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Brian Parish
This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed.  Has been running just
fine for a long time now.  No recent changes apart from security updates
and none of those for a week or more.

Everything ground to a halt.  Managed to kill X after a long wait for a
response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10
minutes later.  Had to reset at that point.

Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. 
Do they mean anything to anyone?

TIA
Brian

Oct  6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
(gfp=0x1f0/0)
Oct  6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
(gfp=0x1d2/0)
Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000
present
Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to
b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err
= -14
Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
(gfp=0xf0/0)
Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
(gfp=0x1d2/0)
Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
(gfp=0x1d2/0)


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Re: [expert] Print problem - Got It!

2003-10-06 Thread Anne Wilson
Solved the problem.  First I tried the option to replace the picture, 
reloading the original one into the document.  No go.  Then I opened 
Gimp and re-saved the picture, in case there was a fault.  Again, 
tried replace, but this time with the new picture.  Then I noticed 
that if I clicked on the picture just about where the problem starts 
I had a small white block.  Was it really not loading the new 
picture?  So, I deleted the frame and recreated it, putting the new 
picture in.  No white block, wherever I clicked.  It prints fine.

Conclusion - possible bug in kword.

Anne

On Monday 06 Oct 2003 8:22 am, R N dev wrote:
 Hi Anne,
 I suppose you use cups, then try to go on cups
 configure web page and look if the printer is on
 otherwise restart it and should work again.

 Angelo

 --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 11:10 pm,
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anne Wilson said:
On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 9:14 pm, Anne Wilson
 
  wrote:
I sent some large print jobs from kword to my
 
  usb printer.  Just
 
before the end of the first one the printer
 
  stopped.  I can't
 
get
it working again.
   
I have tried deleting all jobs from the print
 
  queue, but every
 
time
I try to send a job it says 'Media Tray may be
 
  empty' - which it
 
isn't.
   
Any ideas, anyone?
   
Anne
   
Brain often starts working once I've pressed
 
  'send' g  I sent
 
an email to print and it was OK, so I figured
 
  that there was
 
something
in the kmail printout that was troubling it.  As
 
  there were large
 
graphics on the pages I sent it one 'current
 
  page' at a time, and
 
it's printing fine now.
   
Anne
  
   That's not bad, I usually have to get a few
 
  answers back before
 
   the obvious hits me in the head :)
 
  Actually, it's not entirely solved.  Several pages
  have printed ok,
  but one page insists on printing with a large white
  square in one
  picture.  I've tried it 3 times, with the identical
  result.  Much
  head-scratching g
 
  Anne
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[expert] supermount

2003-10-06 Thread Richard Bown
Hi All
I suspect this has been round before.I had'nt noticed it as I rarely use
a floppy these days.
But that friend noticed it ,( I suspect I have misspelt friend, in his
case maybe the r is missing).

I've checked my machines and they all do the same.
Which ever app uses the floppy drive first time dos'nt release it, so
the next time its used with a different app you get the error message
that the device is busy.

eg. when starting with nautilus then win4lin or mtools

Whats the preferred option in fstab for the floppy ?

WM = gnome

Thanks 
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Re: [expert] Print problem

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 11:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anne Wilson said:
   On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 9:14 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   I sent some large print jobs from kword to my usb printer.  Just
   before the end of the first one the printer stopped.  I can't
   get
   it working again.
  
   I have tried deleting all jobs from the print queue, but every
   time
   I try to send a job it says 'Media Tray may be empty' - which it
   isn't.
  
   Any ideas, anyone?
  
   Anne
  
   Brain often starts working once I've pressed 'send' g  I sent
   an email to print and it was OK, so I figured that there was
   something
   in the kmail printout that was troubling it.  As there were large
   graphics on the pages I sent it one 'current page' at a time, and
   it's printing fine now.
  
   Anne
 
  That's not bad, I usually have to get a few answers back before
  the obvious hits me in the head :)
 
 Actually, it's not entirely solved.  Several pages have printed ok, 
 but one page insists on printing with a large white square in one 
 picture.  I've tried it 3 times, with the identical result.  Much 
 head-scratching g
 
 Anne

Anne,

   If you print it to file does it look the same?  ie if you print it to
a pdf document etc.  

James



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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 00:27, Brian Parish wrote:
 This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed.  Has been running just
 fine for a long time now.  No recent changes apart from security updates
 and none of those for a week or more.
 
 Everything ground to a halt.  Managed to kill X after a long wait for a
 response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10
 minutes later.  Had to reset at that point.
 
 Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. 
 Do they mean anything to anyone?
 
 TIA
 Brian
 
 Oct  6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
 (gfp=0x1f0/0)
 Oct  6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
 (gfp=0x1d2/0)
 Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000
 present
 Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to
 b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err
 = -14
 Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
 (gfp=0xf0/0)
 Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
 (gfp=0x1d2/0)
 Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
 (gfp=0x1d2/0)

Brian,

   A little googling around and I found that it is memory related.  In
that either the box is running out of memory and can't swap so the VM is
trying to kill off processes to stay alive or, you have a memory stick
going bad.  Run memtest86 or a similar memory testing program overnight
if you can. It boots on it's own from a floppy or you can do a urpmi
memtest86 and it will give you another boot option in lilo (grub not
sure) and you boot to that.  

James



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Re: [expert] Texstar KDE 3.1.4

2003-10-06 Thread Damien
No Wine was not the reason... the reason was just a stupid mistake from 
myself.
Having my old KDE compiled from source I forgot to unset some env variables...
Sorry for the inconvenience !

Dam

On Sunday 05 October 2003 21:47, James Sparenberg wrote:
 You have wine installed don't you?  Reason I'm asking.

 http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-bugs/2002/08/0154.html


 Seems like all of kdelibs didn't get installed.  Here locally I did

 urpmi --auto --auto-select

 and kde went in with only one very minor hitch.  The same one I always
 have with texstar's rpms for kde.  I had to move artswrapper to suid
 and all was well.  Greg is right about posting this on the kde-3.1.4
 thread on Texstar's site.  He's really good about helping in cases like
 this.


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[expert] [OT] Reply-to (was: ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root?[...])

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:14:55AM +, Dick Gevers wrote:
 Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it
 sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks!

As the list archives don't seem to work[0], please allow me one question:
*Why* does this list have a Reply-To, anyway? To me, a Reply-To set to
the list always seemed a rather stupid idea, as it makes the default to
reply to the list - and accidentally replying to the list when it
isn't intended is a lot more embarrassing than accidentally just
sending something to a single person instead of the list. In the
latter case I just resend it, in the former case I won't be able to
retract the mail... Also, good mail programs have list-reply
functions, anyway - so what's the added functionality?

Thanks for enlightening me,

Thomas

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daemon - are there other archives?
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Re: [expert] Print problem

2003-10-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 06 Oct 2003 9:19 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 11:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anne Wilson said:
On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 9:14 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
I sent some large print jobs from kword to my usb printer. 
Just before the end of the first one the printer stopped.  I
can't get
it working again.
   
I have tried deleting all jobs from the print queue, but
every time
I try to send a job it says 'Media Tray may be empty' -
which it isn't.
   
Any ideas, anyone?
   
Anne
   
Brain often starts working once I've pressed 'send' g  I
sent an email to print and it was OK, so I figured that there
was something
in the kmail printout that was troubling it.  As there were
large graphics on the pages I sent it one 'current page' at a
time, and it's printing fine now.
   
Anne
  
   That's not bad, I usually have to get a few answers back before
   the obvious hits me in the head :)
 
  Actually, it's not entirely solved.  Several pages have printed
  ok, but one page insists on printing with a large white square in
  one picture.  I've tried it 3 times, with the identical result. 
  Much head-scratching g
 
  Anne

 Anne,

If you print it to file does it look the same?  ie if you print
 it to a pdf document etc.

 James

It's too late to tell now, as I've overwritten it.  However, it did 
look the same in GhostView preview.  When I created the new 
frame/picture the preview was fine, and so was the print.

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Re: [expert] supermount

2003-10-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 06 Oct 2003 9:16 am, Richard Bown wrote:
 Hi All
 I suspect this has been round before.I had'nt noticed it as I
 rarely use a floppy these days.
 But that friend noticed it ,( I suspect I have misspelt friend, in
 his case maybe the r is missing).

 I've checked my machines and they all do the same.
 Which ever app uses the floppy drive first time dos'nt release it,
 so the next time its used with a different app you get the error
 message that the device is busy.

 eg. when starting with nautilus then win4lin or mtools

 Whats the preferred option in fstab for the floppy ?

 WM = gnome

Hi, Richard.  Mine is 
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 
0
and supermount works fine for me.

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Re: [expert] Hyperthreading and Mandrake 9.1

2003-10-06 Thread Traci Collins
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:05, Larry Sword wrote:

 Just a guess:
 
 Try booting with acpi=off switch.
 
 Larry

I have tried booting with acpi=off acpismp=force, are you suggesting
that I take out the acpismp switch as well as turning off normal acpi?

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Re: [expert] [OT] Reply-To

2003-10-06 Thread Felix Miata
T. Ribbrock wrote:
 
 *Why* does this list have a Reply-To, anyway? To me, a Reply-To set to
 the list always seemed a rather stupid idea, as it makes the default to
 reply to the list

Exactly as it should. This is a public discussion list, not a public
question, private reply list. If replies aren't public, 1-the public
doesn't know any exist; 2-the public can't correct bad replies; 3-there
is no discussion, just one side of a conversation.
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Re: [expert] supermount

2003-10-06 Thread Richard Bown
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:08, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 06 Oct 2003 9:16 am, Richard Bown wrote:
  Hi All
  I suspect this has been round before.I had'nt noticed it as I
  rarely use a floppy these days.
  But that friend noticed it ,( I suspect I have misspelt friend, in
  his case maybe the r is missing).
 
  I've checked my machines and they all do the same.
  Which ever app uses the floppy drive first time dos'nt release it,
  so the next time its used with a different app you get the error
  message that the device is busy.
 
  eg. when starting with nautilus then win4lin or mtools
 
  Whats the preferred option in fstab for the floppy ?
 
  WM = gnome
 
 Hi, Richard.  Mine is 
 none /mnt/floppy supermount 
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 
 0

Hi Anne

here's mine and the user bit is missing ummm !

Quick edit and give it a try

none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,co
depage=850 0 0

Richard

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Re: [expert] Discussion: Ready for SATA?

2003-10-06 Thread Tibor Pittich
On  5. October 2003 at 14:48, James Sparenberg wrote:

Do you know of a list of chipsets that are correctly supported?  I've
 not been able to find one. yet.

in latest kernel from mandrake we can see support for these sata
controlers:

PDC20318 (SATA150 TX4)
Adaptec AAR-1210SA SATA HostRAID Controller
Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller

unfortunately, kt600 chipset isn't still supported. but i found email
about this in l-k, where someone wrote that jeff garzik write this
driver already..

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Re: [expert] How to make adsl-start available for users?

2003-10-06 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2003 10:13 schrieb Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes:
 Hello

 I can only adsl-start by logging as root.  How can I make adsl-start
 available for all users?  I tried sudousers but no avail (It is more
 than likely that I did something wrong but I don't know what).

 Many thanks

 Ed

The way i would use is LineControl. The server is running as root and 
the clients connect over the network. No fiddling with rights and a 
gui. The server is package linesrv on contrib and the client is klcc (a 
kde tray app). You can see some screenshots on 
http://linecontrol.sf.net. 

Not exactly what you have asked for, but maybe it helps :)

Steffen

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Re: [expert] Discussion: Ready for SATA?

2003-10-06 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Tibor Pittich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On  5. October 2003 at 14:48, James Sparenberg wrote:

Do you know of a list of chipsets that are correctly supported?  I've
 not been able to find one. yet.

in latest kernel from mandrake we can see support for these sata
controlers:

PDC20318 (SATA150 TX4)
Adaptec AAR-1210SA SATA HostRAID Controller
Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller

unfortunately, kt600 chipset isn't still supported. but i found email
about this in l-k, where someone wrote that jeff garzik write this
driver already..


In my kernel-tmb series in contrib I have that patch so it should 
support both intel and Via SATA chipsets, but since I don't have 
the h/w I cant test it myself... So if anyone feel lucky... 
please give them a try...

Both HighPoint and Promise does have drivers and sourcecode 
for many of their sata controllers, but you have to compile them 
yourself for now, and it does not work for everybody...

They will at some point probably get integrated in the kernels, 
but they need to be rewritten to use the libata interface instead 
of the older cam interface...

same goes for newer cmd, sis and sil chipsets...


Regards

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Re: [expert] Sound card

2003-10-06 Thread Joachim v. Jena
Richard,

... I should have added that I don't use the builtin
0.9.0rcX Alsa-support which is part of the 2.4.21-0.25mdk
kernel. It didn't work for me, see below, but I use Win4Lin
as well. My mobo is a Asus P4PE, Intel 845PE chipset, with
onbord-sound AC97/AD1980 connected to the ICH4 southbridge.
I am sure your mixer-settings for CD are O.K. Look for
them in AlsamixerGUI.
If everything else fails you could build a new kernel from
source as I did. A new kernel built from the
MDK-kernel-source (_Alsa-support must be  switched off_ by 
unchecking Advanced Linux Sound Architecture in make 
menuconfig before patching with the Win4Lin-patches and 
recompiling!), the two kernel patches
extracted from the respective Win4Lin-package, and the alsa
0.9.5 packages: driver, lib, utils downloaded from the
alsa-project-site worked perfectly with the
intel8x0-Alsa-module which is appropriate for my mobo

 ... though I don't recommend you this somewhat complex
procedure if another way is possible. So I omit detailed
instructions here.
What I recommend you is to wait for the upcoming MDK
_9.2-kernel_ which has Alsa 0.9.6 built-in and support from
Netraverse.
-Joachim

Richard Bown wrote:
Greetings Gurus and mega intelligent beings

Still got problems with this one.
First of all the modules wer'nt loaded, so I manually loaded all the
required OSS modules.
Partial success got some sound...some !
so then ran draksound which preferred the Alsa modules so I let it load
them, and again some sound.
I ran modprobe and all the alsa modules listed below are there.
BUT
no audio playback from the CD , yes the cable is connected.
and the audio in win4lin is also non functional.
Its not a duff sound card as it works with winXP.. fingers down throat !

Just to make it worse, grotty pheonix bios dos'nt allow the onboard card
to be disabled, so I cant just throw in a nice soundblaster or similar.
suggestions please

TIA
Richard
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:50, Joachim v. Jena wrote:

For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the
Alsa-module snd-intel8x0.
Use harddrake.
Before test if these modules are installed.

The output of

 modprobe -n -v i810_audio

should be similar to

/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o
and of

 modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0

similar to

/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o
/sbin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o
-Joachim

Richard Bown wrote:

Hi All,
integral sound card on a mobo.
Listed by hard drake as 
ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as
sound is not configuring..
BR
TIA
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Re: [expert] No one answering on newbie :-(

2003-10-06 Thread Anton
hi
Thanks for the advice. I now no longer have to change the default route 
in the gateway (linux) routing table. Unfortunately, after trying 
everything I could possibly think of, there is still nothing that makes 
the ME machine able to connect to the net unless I run drakgw. I did 
pretty much everything you said (Jack) but to no avail...
I didn't set a GATEWAY in

/etc/sysconfig/network

because the ip that my dialup connects to switches between 202.0.46.81 
and 83

and it seemed happier with
policy:
masqnetACCEPT
locnetACCEPT
fwnetACCEPT
netallDROPinfo
allallREJECTinfo
#LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS LINE -- DO NOT REMOVE
than

policy:
#SOURCE DESTPOLICY  LOG LEVEL  
LIMIT:BURST
masqnet ACCEPT
fw  masqACCEPT
fw  net ACCEPT
net all DROPinfo
all all REJECT  info

The thing is thatit still connects fine after I run drakgw. I tried to 
have a look at the log messages and see what drakgw was doing that I was 
not - I'm just not that clued up yet - sorry.
Also, manually starting and stopping dhcpd doesn't seem to work 
sometimes, particularly when I disable drakgw. It takes quite a lot of 
fiddling to get it on at all and then it doesn't do anything. Sorry if I 
sound a little fresh, but I'm still learning about all this stuff!
Below is most of the last part of my log messages. Directly before this 
is just a whole screed of modprobe entries.
Can't really work out what do try next. I would hazard a guess that 
there is some service that drakgw is starting that is not started 
automatically on startup. DHCPD is not started on startup either. It is 
set to (in drakXServices) but doesn't. No idea why - there seem to be 
quite a few services checked to be started which aren't running... still 
lost
Cheers
Anton

Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr0
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr1
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr2
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr3
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi0
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi1
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi2
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi3
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine drakgw[3199]: [drakgw] Have network card: eth0
Oct  6 23:13:05 machine drakgw[3199]: [drakgw] Available network cards: eth0
Oct  6 23:13:06 machine drakgw[3199]: Choosing network device: eth0
Oct  6 23:13:09 machine drakgw[3199]: Using LAN address 192.168.0
Oct  6 23:13:09 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: modprobe iptable_nat
Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: Reconfiguring network parameters 
of eth0
Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: running: chkconfig --add shorewall
Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: running: service  /dev/null 
shorewall restart
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine logger: Shorewall Restarted
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Configuring a DHCP server on 
192.168.0.0
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/usr/sbin/update_dhcp.pl
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Updating CUPS configuration 
accordingly
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Starting daemons
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/cups status /dev/null
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd status /dev/null
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd stop
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine dhcpd: dhcpd shutdown succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/named status /dev/null 2/dev/null
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/named stop
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: shutting down
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: stopping command channel on 
127.0.0.1#953
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: no longer listening on 127.0.0.1#53
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1870]: exiting
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named: named shutdown succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_down /dev/null
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Shutting down interface eth0:  succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Shutting down interface ppp0:  succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine ifplugd[836]: Executing 
'/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 down'.
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine ifplugd[836]: Program executed successfully.
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine ifplugd[836]: Exit.
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Shutting down loopback interface:  
succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Disabling IPv4 packet forwarding:  
succeeded
Oct  6 23:13:12 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network 

Re: [expert] supermount

2003-10-06 Thread Richard Bown

Hi 
Replying to Anne

I had user missing from that line , so I added it and rebooted.
Exactly the same happens, even tried killing nautilus.

So I changed the fstab entry to ext3

mtools works so does win4lin :)

If I manually mount the floppy drive Nautilus can see the contents but
mtools and win4 lin cant until I unmount it.
So next read the Nautilus help file,
so  right mouse click on the desktop and select  disks floppy
and nautilus cant mount it.

So it seems that nautilus dos'nt release the mount for other apps to use
when supermount is used for the floppy.
ps ax shows that for each floppy or cdrom icon on the desktop nautilus
has an active process.

Any more thought s please

Richard

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:18, Richard Bown wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:08, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 06 Oct 2003 9:16 am, Richard Bown wrote:
   Hi All
   I suspect this has been round before.I had'nt noticed it as I
   rarely use a floppy these days.
   But that friend noticed it ,( I suspect I have misspelt friend, in
   his case maybe the r is missing).
  
   I've checked my machines and they all do the same.
   Which ever app uses the floppy drive first time dos'nt release it,
   so the next time its used with a different app you get the error
   message that the device is busy.
  
   eg. when starting with nautilus then win4lin or mtools
  
   Whats the preferred option in fstab for the floppy ?
  
   WM = gnome
  
  Hi, Richard.  Mine is 
  none /mnt/floppy supermount 
  dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 
  0
 
 Hi Anne
 
 here's mine and the user bit is missing ummm !
 
 Quick edit and give it a try
 
 none /mnt/floppy supermount
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,co
 depage=850 0 0
 
 Richard
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[expert] Mandrake 9: Thinkpad R40 and DMA xfers

2003-10-06 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
Testing with hdparm, I found that use_dma was off, and enabling it gives
an error with Thinkpad R40. I would like the tenfold increase in disk
transfer speed; can anyone assist on how to achieve that?

Thanks, -turgut


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Re: [expert] Discussion: Ready for SATA?

2003-10-06 Thread Tibor Pittich
On  6. October 2003 at 13:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:

 unfortunately, kt600 chipset isn't still supported. but i found email
 about this in l-k, where someone wrote that jeff garzik write this
 driver already..
 
 In my kernel-tmb series in contrib I have that patch so it should 
 support both intel and Via SATA chipsets, but since I don't have 
 the h/w I cant test it myself... So if anyone feel lucky... 
 please give them a try...

nice, this works for me, thanks thomas for notice.

if i read all correct, this is only temporary solution for via sata
controllers. jeff have documentation from via and he still work at native
driver. support through sata_via works only in scsi emulation mode, but it
works :)

some logs:
.
sata_via version 0.10
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE800 ctl 0xE402 bmdma 0xD800 irq 20
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE000 ctl 0xDC02 bmdma 0xD808 irq 20
ata1: bus reset via SRST
ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:7c6b 83:7b09 84:4003 85:7c69 86:3a01 87:4003 88:407f
ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 240121728 sectors
ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133
ata2: bus reset via SRST
ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0xE007
ata2: thread exiting
scsi1 : sata_via
scsi2 : sata_via
  Vendor: ATA   Model: Maxtor 6Y120M0Rev: 0.71
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 05
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 240121728 512-byte hdwr sectors (122942 MB)
 /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: unknown partition table
.

# hdparm -t /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  170 MB in  3.00 seconds =  56.67 MB/sec

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Re: [expert] [OT] Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread Rolf Pedersen


T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:14:55AM +, Dick Gevers wrote:

Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it
sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks!


As the list archives don't seem to work[0], please allow me one question:
*Why* does this list have a Reply-To, anyway? To me, a Reply-To set to
the list always seemed a rather stupid idea, as it makes the default to
reply to the list - and accidentally replying to the list when it
isn't intended is a lot more embarrassing than accidentally just
sending something to a single person instead of the list. In the
latter case I just resend it, in the former case I won't be able to
retract the mail... Also, good mail programs have list-reply
functions, anyway - so what's the added functionality?
If I understand you, there is no need to set your mail agent's reply-to 
to the list.  In fact, if you leave reply-to unset, all replies to mail 
you send will be sent back to the address you are sending from, except 
in such cases as the mailing lists,  where replies ought to be 
automatically sent to the list, not you.  The list is a public forum, 
not a private resource.  If someone wants to make a private reply to a 
mail on the list, it is incumbent upon them to reply only to the 
individual, not incumbent upon everyone else to change the automatic 
behavior everytime they wish to reply to the list.  Simply leave your 
reply-to unset.
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to

Thanks for enlightening me,

Thomas

[0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search
daemon - are there other archives?
These pages contain other list archives:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
http://www.mail-archive.com/lists.html
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Re: [expert] [OT] Reply-to (was: ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root?[...])

2003-10-06 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:55, T. Ribbrock wrote:

...
 [0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search
 daemon - are there other archives?

Google, and add site:mandrakelinux.com to the end of the search string.
e.g.:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=t+Ribbrock+site%3Amandrakelinux.combtnG=Google+Search

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[expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I have fiddled some with my spamassassin but it is still just too slow.  I am 
running it in daemon mode (spamd and spamc) with bayes filtering on. 
Spamassassin email analysis on my laptop is too slow to live with (about 20 
seconds per message).  Several questions with the first: How do I add a 
mailing list like this one to my whitelist? The whitelist appears setup to 
deal with from addresses, not to addresses.  Since all list mail is To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or some other variation of this, I can't see how 
to setup my whitelist for this.  My next question is about how to reduce spam 
analysis time down from 20+ seconds to something more realistic.  Here are 
the entries to my user_prefs file, exluding whitelist:

score RCVD_IN_RBL 10
score RCVD_IN_RSS 1
score RCVD_IN_DUL 1
score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 4

use_bayes 1
score BAYES_00 0 0 -6.400 -6.400
score BAYES_01 0 0 -6.600 -6.600
score BAYES_10 0 0 -6.400 -5.801
score BAYES_20 0 0 -5.801 -3.101
score BAYES_30 0 0 -1.246 -1.604
score BAYES_60 0 0 2.002 2.002
score BAYES_70 0 0 2.637 2.637
score BAYES_80 0 0 4.1 4.1
score BAYES_90 0 0 4.2 4.2
score BAYES_99 0 0 4.300 4.3

What should I add or remove from the above to make this work faster?


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Re: [expert] Hyperthreading and Mandrake 9.1

2003-10-06 Thread Larry Sword
Traci Collins wrote:

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:05, Larry Sword wrote:

 

Just a guess:

Try booting with acpi=off switch.

Larry
   

I have tried booting with acpi=off acpismp=force, are you suggesting
that I take out the acpismp switch as well as turning off normal acpi?
Traci

 

I would suggest booting with one switch at a time and see if you can get 
a full or clean boot.
I've noticed that the requirement for booting with or without a switch 
changes with the kernel and even the amount of memory, say updating from 
512MB to 1.0GB.

Try them all.

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Re: [expert] No one answering on newbie :-(

2003-10-06 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 16:42, Anton wrote:
 hi
 Thanks for the advice. I now no longer have to change the default route 
 in the gateway (linux) routing table. Unfortunately, after trying 
 everything I could possibly think of, there is still nothing that makes 
 the ME machine able to connect to the net unless I run drakgw. I did 
 pretty much everything you said (Jack) but to no avail...
 I didn't set a GATEWAY in
 
 /etc/sysconfig/network
 
 
 because the ip that my dialup connects to switches between 202.0.46.81 
 and 83
 
 and it seemed happier with
 policy:
 masqnetACCEPT
 locnetACCEPT

what network is your loc zone defined as?

 fwnetACCEPT
 netallDROPinfo
 allallREJECTinfo
 #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS LINE -- DO NOT REMOVE
 
 than
 
 policy:
 #SOURCE DESTPOLICY  LOG LEVEL  
 LIMIT:BURST
 masqnet ACCEPT
 fw  masqACCEPT
 fw  net ACCEPT
 net all DROPinfo
 all all REJECT  info
 
 
 The thing is thatit still connects fine after I run drakgw. I tried to 
 have a look at the log messages and see what drakgw was doing that I was 
 not - I'm just not that clued up yet - sorry.

strace drakgw | grep etc might tell you.

 Also, manually starting and stopping dhcpd doesn't seem to work 
 sometimes, particularly when I disable drakgw. It takes quite a lot of 
 fiddling to get it on at all and then it doesn't do anything. Sorry if I 
 sound a little fresh, but I'm still learning about all this stuff!
 Below is most of the last part of my log messages. Directly before this 
 is just a whole screed of modprobe entries.
 Can't really work out what do try next. I would hazard a guess that 
 there is some service that drakgw is starting that is not started 
 automatically on startup. DHCPD is not started on startup either. It is 
 set to (in drakXServices) but doesn't. No idea why - there seem to be 
 quite a few services checked to be started which aren't running... still 
 lost
 Cheers
 Anton
 
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr0
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr1
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr2
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tr3
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi0
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi1
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi2
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module fddi3

okay, that's kinda weird -- it's trying to load tokenring and FDDI
support modules.

 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine drakgw[3199]: [drakgw] Have network card: eth0
 Oct  6 23:13:05 machine drakgw[3199]: [drakgw] Available network cards: eth0
 Oct  6 23:13:06 machine drakgw[3199]: Choosing network device: eth0
 Oct  6 23:13:09 machine drakgw[3199]: Using LAN address 192.168.0
 Oct  6 23:13:09 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: modprobe iptable_nat
 Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: Reconfiguring network parameters 
 of eth0
 Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: running: chkconfig --add shorewall
 Oct  6 23:13:10 machine drakgw[3199]: running: service  /dev/null 
 shorewall restart
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine logger: Shorewall Restarted
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Configuring a DHCP server on 
 192.168.0.0
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /usr/sbin/update_dhcp.pl
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Updating CUPS configuration 
 accordingly
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: Starting daemons
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups status /dev/null
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd status /dev/null
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd stop
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine dhcpd: dhcpd shutdown succeeded
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/named status /dev/null 2/dev/null
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/named stop
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: shutting down
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: stopping command channel on 
 127.0.0.1#953
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1878]: no longer listening on 127.0.0.1#53
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named[1870]: exiting
 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine named: named shutdown succeeded

okay, drakgw shuts everything down when you tell it to commit changes.

 Oct  6 23:13:11 machine drakgw[3199]: launched command: 
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_down /dev/null
 Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Shutting down interface eth0:  succeeded
 Oct  6 23:13:12 machine network: Shutting down interface ppp0:  succeeded
 Oct  6 23:13:12 machine ifplugd[836]: Executing 
 

[expert] test - no content

2003-10-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Re: [expert] Hyperthreading and Mandrake 9.1

2003-10-06 Thread Larry Sword
Traci Collins wrote:

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:05, Larry Sword wrote:

 

Just a guess:

Try booting with acpi=off switch.

Larry
   

I have tried booting with acpi=off acpismp=force, are you suggesting
that I take out the acpismp switch as well as turning off normal acpi?
Traci

 

 

Traci,

Another suggestion would be to try the noinitrd switch.

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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 06 October 2003 10:41 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I have fiddled some with my spamassassin but it is still just too slow.  I
 am running it in daemon mode (spamd and spamc) with bayes filtering on.
 Spamassassin email analysis on my laptop is too slow to live with (about 20
 seconds per message).  Several questions with the first: How do I add a
 mailing list like this one to my whitelist? The whitelist appears setup to
 deal with from addresses, not to addresses.  Since all list mail is
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some other variation of this, I can't
 see how to setup my whitelist for this.  

A lot of this depends on what you consider slow.  My own setup takes about 
40-60 seconds per message for filtering, I figure a lot of that is from the 
RBL checking, I use RBL lists extensively and some of them are a little slow 
to respond to queries.

One suggestion, if you know that you want to whitelist mailing list messages, 
why send them through spamassassin at all?  Simply setup a procmail recipe to 
put those messages directly in your spool, that way, you don't waste time 
doing header and body checks on messages that you would have whitelisted to 
reduce the score of those checks on anyway.  In short, why do the checks if 
your whitelisting score will reduce the score to the point that the checks 
are superfluous?

Something like:

:0H
* ^List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/spool/mail/user

will put all Mandrake Expert messages into user's mail spool and will 
essentially bypass spamassassin if that recipe is used first, before the one 
that sends all remaining mail to spamassassin.

 My next question is about how to 
 reduce spam analysis time down from 20+ seconds to something more
 realistic.  Here are the entries to my user_prefs file, exluding whitelist:

 score RCVD_IN_RBL 10
 score RCVD_IN_RSS 1
 score RCVD_IN_DUL 1
 score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 4

 use_bayes 1
 score BAYES_00 0 0 -6.400 -6.400
 score BAYES_01 0 0 -6.600 -6.600
 score BAYES_10 0 0 -6.400 -5.801
 score BAYES_20 0 0 -5.801 -3.101
 score BAYES_30 0 0 -1.246 -1.604
 score BAYES_60 0 0 2.002 2.002
 score BAYES_70 0 0 2.637 2.637
 score BAYES_80 0 0 4.1 4.1
 score BAYES_90 0 0 4.2 4.2
 score BAYES_99 0 0 4.300 4.3

 What should I add or remove from the above to make this work faster?

It might help if you told us what you consider realistic to be.  I would 
suggest removing the RBL checks altogether if you really want to speed things 
up.  With those, you are always going to be limited by the speed of the 
Internet and the DNS servers you are querying.  Even with RBL timeout set 
relatively low, I think that it is cumulative, so a 10 second time out with 4 
RBL checks adds up to a potential 40 second delay.

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 05 October 2003 06:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if suid would make a difference?  Although, I'm using
 mdk9.1 on this particular machine and the only thing is, I have
 devfs=nomount in my lilo.conf.  Other than that, all I did was
 urpmi the gnomemeeting packages and then I went to the
 gnomemeeting site this morning and grabbed the latest mandrake
 rpms and urpmi'd them.  My problem is a bit different, but I'm
 able to bring the program up with no problems.  Stupid question,
 and it really shouldn't matter anyway, but what kind of camera is
 it?

but what would suid give as an advantage over having to go to root now 
anyways? I mean I can su and it runs fine - just not my normal user account.

Its a Logitech 3000 Quickcam (usb).

Thanks.

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 05 October 2003 07:04 pm, ed tharp wrote:

 who owns /dev/v4l/video?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ ls -al /dev/video0
crw---1 darklord sys   81,   0 Jun 12 22:35 /dev/video0

I put this because there is no /dev/v4l on my system.

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:51, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Sunday 05 October 2003 06:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I wonder if suid would make a difference?  Although, I'm using
  mdk9.1 on this particular machine and the only thing is, I have
  devfs=nomount in my lilo.conf.  Other than that, all I did was
  urpmi the gnomemeeting packages and then I went to the
  gnomemeeting site this morning and grabbed the latest mandrake
  rpms and urpmi'd them.  My problem is a bit different, but I'm
  able to bring the program up with no problems.  Stupid question,
  and it really shouldn't matter anyway, but what kind of camera is
  it?
 
 but what would suid give as an advantage over having to go to root now 
 anyways? I mean I can su and it runs fine - just not my normal user account.
 
 Its a Logitech 3000 Quickcam (usb).
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I also run spamassassin (daemon mode) on my desktop system (much better 
hardware:  Athlon XP2700+, 512 MB Ram vs Celery 366 and 256 MB Ram in my 
laptop, for instance) and even though my desktop is stuck with a dialup it 
still processes emails in one second or less - using bayes and the same 
rules.  My laptop uses an ethernet connection and takes no less than 20 
seconds per message.  The main difference between the systems with regards to 
spamassassin is that the laptop has had a lot more sa-learn data applied.  I 
use the laptop to acquire the vast bulk of my emails so it has had more 
opportunity to learn spam.  

As your reply did help out a bit with my understanding of the checks, I 
altered my rbl check to 5 instead of 10.   

I would consider no more than about 2 or 3 seconds per messages the max, given 
what it does to the usability of kmail. 

In any case, concomittent to sending the first message, I altered my filter 
list so that list mails are before spam analysis (using kmail).  The expert 
list is good about not receiving spam in it but other lists I am a member of 
get spam posted fairly regularly so I have been passing all messages through 
spamd to hit them.

The main problem with the long processing times is that kmail is entirely 
unusable while the check is ongoing.  You cannot even write an email because 
the entire app is is limbo while the spam analysis (per message) goes on.  If 
it didn't hang kmail for the length of time the spam check was ongoing I 
wouldn't mind as much as I could read emails that made it through and 
send/queue messages for sending but as it is...

praedor

On Monday 06 October 2003 10:42 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Monday 06 October 2003 10:41 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  I have fiddled some with my spamassassin but it is still just too slow. 
  I am running it in daemon mode (spamd and spamc) with bayes filtering on.
  Spamassassin email analysis on my laptop is too slow to live with (about
  20 seconds per message).  Several questions with the first: How do I add
  a mailing list like this one to my whitelist? The whitelist appears setup
  to deal with from addresses, not to addresses.  Since all list mail
  is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some other variation of this, I
  can't see how to setup my whitelist for this.

 A lot of this depends on what you consider slow.  My own setup takes
 about 40-60 seconds per message for filtering, I figure a lot of that is
 from the RBL checking, I use RBL lists extensively and some of them are a
 little slow to respond to queries.

 One suggestion, if you know that you want to whitelist mailing list
 messages, why send them through spamassassin at all?  Simply setup a
 procmail recipe to put those messages directly in your spool, that way, you
 don't waste time doing header and body checks on messages that you would
 have whitelisted to reduce the score of those checks on anyway.  In short,
 why do the checks if your whitelisting score will reduce the score to the
 point that the checks are superfluous?
[...]

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civil society? In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the 
liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have 
found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to 
secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 06 October 2003 11:58 am, ed tharp wrote:

 do you have an nvidia video card? running Nvidia drivers?

Yep, sure do - is that an issue? Its a Ti4200, BTW...using the latest drivers.

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Re: [expert] Trying to get a IDE Onstream 30GB tape drive working

2003-10-06 Thread Luca Olivetti
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,

I'm trying to get a IDE OnStream 30GB tape drive working with LM 9.0.  I 


I have it working in 8.2 with the stock kernel, so it should work out of 
the box in 9.0 too. Probably you have to manually setup scsi emulation 
for the drive and/or load the osst module, maybe also create the device 
files (devfs would create them but they change every time you load the 
module, at least under 8.2). *DON'T* use ide-tape, is buggy as hell.
Documentation used to be available at www.onstream.nl or 
linux1.onstream.nl, but both of these seem to be down now.

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[expert] Archives (was: Reply-to)

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:38:15AM -0700, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:55, T. Ribbrock wrote:
 
 ...
  [0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search
  daemon - are there other archives?
 
 Google, and add site:mandrakelinux.com to the end of the search string.
 e.g.:
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=t+Ribbrock+site%3Amandrakelinux.combtnG=Google+Search

I'll try that next time, thanks. Pity that the official archives don't
seem to work - or was that a fluke?

Cheerio,

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[expert] Opensource ERP software with MySQL back end? Anyone know of one?

2003-10-06 Thread Apollo (Carmel Entertainment)
I have MS Access front end with MySQL back end working in my office. MSAccess
via CrossOver office on Mandrake is horrible. So, I am looking now to probably
go with ERP (or ERP/CRM) software that I can get freely out there. I have no IT
budget, I am the IT budget, so I have to do something. Any ideas where I could
find software like that. I do want it to run on MySQL, since that I have working
perfectly.
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[expert] Re: Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:12:08AM -0700, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 If I understand you, there is no need to set your mail agent's reply-to 
 to the list.

Personally, I hardly ever set a Reply-To...


 In fact, if you leave reply-to unset, all replies to mail 
 you send will be sent back to the address you are sending from, except 
 in such cases as the mailing lists,  where replies ought to be 
 automatically sent to the list, not you.  The list is a public forum, 
 not a private resource.

I agree, but to me, the principle of least surprise works the other
way round: If I hit reply, I expect to reply to the sender, not the
list - that's the way it always works.
In my case, if I want to reply to the list, I hit list-reply, not
reply.


 If someone wants to make a private reply to a 
 mail on the list, it is incumbent upon them to reply only to the 
 individual, not incumbent upon everyone else to change the automatic 
 behavior everytime they wish to reply to the list.

But the Reply-To header of the list does change the automatic
behaviour - reply and list-reply now work the same, which would
not be the case if Reply-To wasn't set at all...
On second thought, I realize that I might be forgetting that there are
too many mail clients that don't have list-reply, which is a pity.
Great functionality.


 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
 http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to

Thanks for the pointers! I admit I'm not convinced, but I see that I'm
in a minority here, so I'll shut up now (and promise not to set
Reply-To... ;-) ).

Cheerio,

Thomas

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 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker

Duh - should've thought of that one... :-/
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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread diego
Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a
look at badmem:
it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able
to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))


El lun, 06-10-2003 a las 10:30, James Sparenberg escribió:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 00:27, Brian Parish wrote:
  This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed.  Has been running just
  fine for a long time now.  No recent changes apart from security updates
  and none of those for a week or more.
  
  Everything ground to a halt.  Managed to kill X after a long wait for a
  response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10
  minutes later.  Had to reset at that point.
  
  Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. 
  Do they mean anything to anyone?
  
  TIA
  Brian
  
  Oct  6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  (gfp=0x1f0/0)
  Oct  6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  (gfp=0x1d2/0)
  Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000
  present
  Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to
  b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err
  = -14
  Oct  6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  (gfp=0xf0/0)
  Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  (gfp=0x1d2/0)
  Oct  6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  (gfp=0x1d2/0)
 
 Brian,
 
A little googling around and I found that it is memory related.  In
 that either the box is running out of memory and can't swap so the VM is
 trying to kill off processes to stay alive or, you have a memory stick
 going bad.  Run memtest86 or a similar memory testing program overnight
 if you can. It boots on it's own from a floppy or you can do a urpmi
 memtest86 and it will give you another boot option in lilo (grub not
 sure) and you boot to that.  
 
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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 06 October 2003 11:58 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I also run spamassassin (daemon mode) on my desktop system (much better
 hardware:  Athlon XP2700+, 512 MB Ram vs Celery 366 and 256 MB Ram in my
 laptop, for instance) and even though my desktop is stuck with a dialup it
 still processes emails in one second or less - using bayes and the same
 rules.  My laptop uses an ethernet connection and takes no less than 20
 seconds per message.  The main difference between the systems with regards
 to spamassassin is that the laptop has had a lot more sa-learn data
 applied.  I use the laptop to acquire the vast bulk of my emails so it has
 had more opportunity to learn spam.

Are you downloading messages?  If so, to two separate machines?  How do you 
reconcile which machine, laptop or desktop, gets which mail?  Or do you have 
multiple accounts, each going to a different machine?

On my desktop machine, I run Postfix and retrieve mail with fetchmail and use 
Postfix to deliver locally.  I then use IMAP to allow me to read mail 
remotely while leaving mail stored on the local machine.  Because the 
spamassassin check is done as mail is received, I don't need to worry about 
the specific timing of how long spamassassin takes per message.

 As your reply did help out a bit with my understanding of the checks, I
 altered my rbl check to 5 instead of 10.

 I would consider no more than about 2 or 3 seconds per messages the max,
 given what it does to the usability of kmail.

Again, if you pull your mail from the spool after spamassassin has been run 
with procmail (via fetching mail, filtering with procmail and then delivering 
to the local spool), Kmail's performance becomes immaterial because the 
filtering is done prior to retrieval by Kmail.  I would recommend some 
similar setup on your laptop, that way, your mail is all stored in a central 
place, but you still have access to it from remote as long as you have a 
connection to the machine.  If you need to pull mail down to your laptop 
machine, why not let fetchmail pull the mail, run through procmail and then 
use procmail to deliver directly to the local spool and you can use Kmail to 
retrieve from the local spool.  You won't need to worry about process time 
that way since mail is processed in the background, separate from what Kmail 
is doing.

 In any case, concomittent to sending the first message, I altered my filter
 list so that list mails are before spam analysis (using kmail).  The expert
 list is good about not receiving spam in it but other lists I am a member
 of get spam posted fairly regularly so I have been passing all messages
 through spamd to hit them.

 The main problem with the long processing times is that kmail is entirely
 unusable while the check is ongoing.  You cannot even write an email
 because the entire app is is limbo while the spam analysis (per message)
 goes on.  If it didn't hang kmail for the length of time the spam check was
 ongoing I wouldn't mind as much as I could read emails that made it through
 and send/queue messages for sending but as it is...

See above.  Having Kmail route to procmail would appear to be your complaint, 
not spamassassin.  If you let procmail do it's business with spamassassin 
prior to attempting to gather mail with Kmail, the delay becomes a non-issue 
and Kmail is always usable.

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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200:

 Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have
 a look at badmem:
   it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would
   be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))

Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest
reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work
with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to
1GByte!

If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices
I received this year.

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RE: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Lawson, Jim
I agree it really was great info.

-Original Message-
From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?


diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200:

 Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have
 a look at badmem:
   it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would
   be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))

Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest
reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work
with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to
1GByte!

If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices
I received this year.

wobo


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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread michael

Bill Mullen said:

 It may be worth noting that permissions on this and many other
 devices are
 controlled by the settings within one's
 /etc/security/console.perms file.

What is the best way to view/edit this file?  I checked it out
with VI, but I was wondering if there were something better
suited?

 I wrestled with a similar problem recently, trying to get xawtv to
 work
 reliably on a 9.1 system with an older, Mach64-based ATI TV Wonder
 card. I
 ended up having to go with using sudo to run it, and created a
 menu entry
 and a desktop icon that invoked xawtv via sudo for the system's
 owner. So
 far, so good, but I would have preferred to find a more elegant
 solution.

 As this isn't a problem on 9.0 and earlier releases, something is
 borked
 in this regard on 9.1, I strongly suspect ... but what?

I think as well, and not backed by facts but only supposition;
when we start adding several multimedia apps / hardware to the
computer, are we not losing the inherent security?  I realize it´s
not a good idea to run as root, even behind a firewall.  I´ve
wiped out similar named directories before by not obeying the
rules, boy that hurts!  But when you´re talking about a device
driver - while not a purist approach - is it that important?



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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:58:48 -0500
Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 The main problem with the long processing times is that kmail is
 entirely unusable while the check is ongoing.  You cannot even write
 an email because the entire app is is limbo while the spam analysis
 (per message) goes on.  If it didn't hang kmail for the length of time
 the spam check was ongoing I wouldn't mind as much as I could read
 emails that made it through and send/queue messages for sending but as
 it is...

Why not invoke spamassassin from procmail. I have all incomeing mail
pushed through spamassassin useing a machine wide procmailrc in
/etc/procmailrc. This would mean that the spam filtering would be
totally indepentant of kmail and not lock it up.

Cheers
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[expert] Evolution 1.4.5 Tex problem

2003-10-06 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I tried to install Evolution 1.4.5 from tex, but it fails to load (error
in shellcode.so I believe)

Is it working for someone here?
I'm on Mandrake 9.1, using KDE

Thanks

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread michael
Ronald J. Hall said:

 but what would suid give as an advantage over having to go to root
 now
 anyways? I mean I can su and it runs fine - just not my normal
 user account.

 Its a Logitech 3000 Quickcam (usb).

 Thanks.

Well, as far as the suid, it would get you working without having
to do ´su´ everytime.  Is it a good answer?  No.
I have a Logitech quickcam as well (I don´t know about the 3000
part), and my setup consisted of pluging it in.  The only thing I
can figure is that you either have a higher default security than
I, or it´s the devfs thing.  I only say devfs, because it´s the
one thing I don´t use.  I have had problems with zip drives, flash
card readers, pda, I think even my scanner has had problems.  When
I disable devfs, everything starts working.  I don´t remember if
you said you use devfs or not, but I don´t have a clue what else
it could be.  You just shouldn´t have to start hacking your system
to pieces - like I said, it works fine here.  Logic would say, it
has to be something fairly obvious.

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[expert] interesting story

2003-10-06 Thread michael
Hey,
Just thought this was an interesting story about mickeysoft being
a security risk (like that was new information).  Download the pdf
here:
http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf


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RE: [expert] interesting story

2003-10-06 Thread Lawson, Jim
Really a good paper thanks.

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To: expert
Subject: [expert] interesting story


Hey,
Just thought this was an interesting story about mickeysoft being
a security risk (like that was new information).  Download the pdf
here:
http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf


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Re: [expert] Hyperthreading and Mandrake 9.1

2003-10-06 Thread Traci Collins
Thank you for these suggestions. I'll be trying both later today. Just a
quick question, if I use noinitrd how does the system know which img
file to use?

Traci

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 09:41, Larry Sword wrote:
 Traci Collins wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:05, Larry Sword wrote:
 
   
 
 Just a guess:
 
 Try booting with acpi=off switch.
 
 Larry
 
 
 
 I have tried booting with acpi=off acpismp=force, are you suggesting
 that I take out the acpismp switch as well as turning off normal acpi?
 
 Traci
 
   
 
   
 
 Traci,
 
 Another suggestion would be to try the noinitrd switch.
 
 
 Larry
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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I am not real up on procmail filter writing (or the cryptic language of
procmail).  I have run postfix locally in the past but haven't lately...I
have set it up to run again now.  I have never had it work with spamassassin
or procmail before.

Here's what I'm interested in then, and perhaps you could provide hints(?):

I want all email that _doesn't_ come from someone in my email addressbook or
the expert mailing list to pass through spamassassin.  I assume I would still
be using spamd/spamc?  How might I create a procmailrc recipe to do the
above?  Just dinking around I produced something like:

This first is intended to sidestep spamassassin:

:0f
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !an email address
* !an email address
* !an email address ...etc...
| spamc

This part is intended to have spam routed to /dev/null (based on something I
saw on the web, though I don't know how it would work wrt
spamassassin...perhaps I should have procmail look for some spam tag in the
headers that spamassassin places?):


:0 H:
 * ^(X-UCIRVINE-SpamCheck:)
| /dev/null

Is this workable or totally offbase?

On Monday 06 October 2003 10:42 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
[...]
 Something like:
 :0H

 * ^List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 /var/spool/mail/user

 will put all Mandrake Expert messages into user's mail spool and will
 essentially bypass spamassassin if that recipe is used first, before the
 one that sends all remaining mail to spamassassin.
[...]
- --
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civil society? In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the
liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have
found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to
secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
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[expert] Sarg

2003-10-06 Thread Lawson, Jim
How can I make sarg reports viewable Via https?

I can go to the webmin page and drill down to the directory and open the
page but I wanted to view it via a short cut on the webmin intern phase.

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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Thomas Backlund
Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 06 Lokakuu 2003 
20:35):
 diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200:
  Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have
  a look at badmem:
  it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would
  be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))

 Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest
 reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work
 with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to
 1GByte!

 If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices
 I received this year.

 wobo

As we have the badram patches in upcoming 9.2, here is how to do it:
(it was added in 2.4.22-0.7mdk)

run memtest, choose the following:
(c)onfiguration
(6) Error Report Mode
(2) BadRam Patterns
(8) Restart Test

When the test have run, and found some bad ram, it will show a line like this:

badram=0x09c17d18,0xfffc

this line that is reported is exactly what you need to add to your lilo append 
line, and the kernel will map that memory area as forbidden area that no 
program will use, not even the kernel...

Thanks to the badram patch I didn't have to discard a 512MB module due to a 
4kB bad area in that module (that's what the above badram=... example fixes)


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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 06 October 2003 03:48 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I am not real up on procmail filter writing (or the cryptic language of
 procmail).  I have run postfix locally in the past but haven't lately...I
 have set it up to run again now.  I have never had it work with
 spamassassin or procmail before.

Procmail is not that hard to work with, however, if you want to simply the 
process and have webmin installed, it has a control panel for procmail in the 
servers tab.  You can create recipes there using easy stuff like ^From: 
whoever and then filter that way for people that you know.

I use the List owner header for Expert and Newbie mailing list so I don't need 
to worry about spoofing, they are more likely to spoof the From header than 
to spoof the list-owner header.


 Here's what I'm interested in then, and perhaps you could provide hints(?):

 I want all email that _doesn't_ come from someone in my email addressbook
 or the expert mailing list to pass through spamassassin.  I assume I would
 still be using spamd/spamc?  How might I create a procmailrc recipe to do
 the above?  Just dinking around I produced something like:

 This first is intended to sidestep spamassassin:
 :0f

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * !an email address
 * !an email address
 * !an email address ...etc...

I would write some of these directly to the spool

:0H
* ^List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/spool/mail/user

That way, you not only skip the spamassassin check but any other recipes that 
you add subsequently.  If you are pretty sure that you want to see the 
message, that allows you to do so without worrying about extra recipes 
getting tagged or wasting time routing the mail through any extraneous 
activities.

This is useful for stuff like virus checking recipes like nkvir, if you ever 
want to use them.  So, stuff from my local domain/machine skips the virus 
check since I am not in the habit of sending viruses to myself.  Other 
messages go through the virus check but may skip spamassassin.  Others go 
through the whole thing.


 | spamc

 This part is intended to have spam routed to /dev/null (based on something
 I saw on the web, though I don't know how it would work wrt
 spamassassin...perhaps I should have procmail look for some spam tag in the

 headers that spamassassin places?):
 :0 H:

  * ^(X-UCIRVINE-SpamCheck:)
I use:

:0
* ^X-Spam-Flag: YES

for spamassassin and then put in dev/null or you can route to a spam folder 
and screen it before deletion.  For myself, anything with a score of 8 or 
more goes to dev/null and between 4 and 8 goes to a spam folder for checking.

 | /dev/null

 Is this workable or totally offbase?

It is workable although you may want to split the email addresses up into 
separate recipes.  It checks them one at a time and once routed, it doesn't 
need to check them again.  If you use procmail to route the mail, put the 
most frequent sender first, then lesser as follows and that should cut down 
on processing time, not that you will notice any more anyway since it will 
all be done in the background.

If you are concerned about speed, the faster you dispose of a message, the 
less time it takes procmail to process and deliver it.

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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

To partially answer myself...I have fetchmail, postfix, and procmail working - 
or at least, procmail is partially working.  I have a recipe that checks to 
make sure an email isn't from anyone in my email address or from any of the 
lists that I am a member of, then it is supposed to check to see if the 
X-Spam-Status: Yes header exists and, if so, pipe the message to /dev/null.

The first part is working.  The expert list and others are not getting 
processed by spamassassin.  The problem is the second action, to pass spam to 
/dev/null.  

I generated a fake spam message and have been using it by sending it to 
myself.  It gets processed by spamassassin and my kmail filters properly 
identify it as tagged spam and dumps it in my trash folder.  I shouldn't even 
SEE the message, however, because I thought I had procmail setup to dump such 
mails to /dev/null.

Here's a synopsis of the first working procmail recipe:

:0f
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !someone@att.net
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !someone@purdue.edu
* !someone@yahoo.com
* !someone@msn.net
* !someone@yahoo.com
| spamc -f

This works.  Mails from the expert list or from any of the particular emails 
listed do not get processed by spamassassin.  The second recipe is:

:0fH:
 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
| /dev/null
 
I have tried several different variations of this with regards to the :0f 
entry.  I have tried :0f, :0fw, :0fW, and so on to no avail.  How do I get 
procmail to use this second recipe?

praedor

On Monday 06 October 2003 02:48 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I am not real up on procmail filter writing (or the cryptic language of
 procmail).  I have run postfix locally in the past but haven't lately...I
 have set it up to run again now.  I have never had it work with
 spamassassin or procmail before.

 Here's what I'm interested in then, and perhaps you could provide hints(?):

 I want all email that _doesn't_ come from someone in my email addressbook
 or the expert mailing list to pass through spamassassin.  I assume I would
 still be using spamd/spamc?  How might I create a procmailrc recipe to do
 the above?  Just dinking around I produced something like:

 This first is intended to sidestep spamassassin:
 :0f

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * !an email address
 * !an email address
 * !an email address ...etc...

 | spamc
[...]

 headers that spamassassin places?):
 :0 H:

  * ^(X-UCIRVINE-SpamCheck:)

 | /dev/null

 Is this workable or totally offbase?

 On Monday 06 October 2003 10:42 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 [...]

  Something like:
  :0H
 
  * ^List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  /var/spool/mail/user
 
  will put all Mandrake Expert messages into user's mail spool and will
  essentially bypass spamassassin if that recipe is used first, before the
  one that sends all remaining mail to spamassassin.

 [...]

- -- 
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civil society? In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the 
liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have 
found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to 
secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:46:43 -0500
Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Here's a synopsis of the first working procmail recipe:
 
 :0f
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * !someone@att.net
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * !someone@purdue.edu
 * !someone@yahoo.com
 * !someone@msn.net
 * !someone@yahoo.com
 | spamc -f
 
 This works.  Mails from the expert list or from any of the particular
 emails listed do not get processed by spamassassin. 

I'm not an expert but what I think is happening is anything not listed
in the email addresses is being piped into spamc, which is what you
want, but as soon as procmail has performed an operation on a mail it
does not process any recipes that follow on that mail. I would suggest
putting your working part in /etc/procmailrc (or wherever your global
file is) and the second recipe in a personal .procmailrc in your home
directory that gets processed by a second invokation of procmail. Also I
would suggest changeing it to

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !someone@att.net
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !someone@purdue.edu
* !someone@yahoo.com
* !someone@msn.net
* !someone@yahoo.com
* 256000
| spamc -f

This will mean that any message that doesn't match the email addresses
and is smaller than 250 kb will be piped into spamc. According to the
documentation most spam isn't bigger than a few k and working with big
messages can bring SpamAssassin to its knees.

The change in the first line adds a lock to prevent the message being
mangled


 The second recipe
 is:
 :0fH:
  * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
 | /dev/null

Spam will be marked so if you put your second recipe in .procmailrc in
your home directory it will filter out the spam. A few pointers about
the second recipe, try

:0
* ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes
/dev/null

You don't want the f or the | because you are not piping it to a
programme and you don't want the second : because you don't want a lock
on it (I don't remember why but all the FAQ's say this).

I would also suggest that in the .procmailrc in your home directory you
put the following (adapted for your setup) at the beginning of the file
so procmail knows where to send messages that match nothing but MAKE
SURE the destination exists

MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail  # 
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox   # You had better make sure it exists

Also make sure that .procmailrc in ~/ is not world or group writable.

Like I said, I'm not a guru so please don't risk loosing valuable
emails.

Good Luck
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Re: [expert] Archives (was: Reply-to)

2003-10-06 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:38:15AM -0700, Jack Coates wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:55, T. Ribbrock wrote:
 
  ...
   [0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search
   daemon - are there other archives?
 
  Google, and add site:mandrakelinux.com to the end of the search string.
  e.g.:
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=t+Ribbrock+site%3Amandrakelinux.combtnG=Google+Search

 I'll try that next time, thanks. Pity that the official archives don't
 seem to work - or was that a fluke?


Or use MARC:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2


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RE: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread diego
I'm glad it might be usefull to someone (I have used sucessfuly it in
the past). Have a look at (googling around will lead you here):
http://badmem.sourceforge.net/docu/BadMEM-HOWTO.html

It does not waste resources as what it does os just install itself as a
resident kernel module (not swapable) into those specific locations, so
it locks them but will never be used. The only thing to accomplish is to
try to put the good module(s) first to guarantee that lilo, the loader,
etc get executed properly just upto the module load.





El lun, 06-10-2003 a las 19:42, Lawson, Jim escribió:
 I agree it really was great info.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
 
 
 diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200:
 
  Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have
  a look at badmem:
  it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would
  be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))
 
 Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest
 reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work
 with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to
 1GByte!
 
 If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices
 I received this year.
 
 wobo
 
 
 
 

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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Thomas Backlund schrieb am Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:09:48 +0300:

 As we have the badram patches in upcoming 9.2, here is how to do it:
 (it was added in 2.4.22-0.7mdk)
 
 run memtest, choose the following:
 (c)onfiguration
 (6) Error Report Mode
 (2) BadRam Patterns
 (8) Restart Test
 
 When the test have run, and found some bad ram, it will show a line
 like this:
 
 badram=0x09c17d18,0xfffc
 
 this line that is reported is exactly what you need to add to your
 lilo append line, and the kernel will map that memory area as
 forbidden area that no program will use, not even the kernel...
 
 Thanks to the badram patch I didn't have to discard a 512MB module due
 to a 4kB bad area in that module (that's what the above badram=...
 example fixes)

Thanks, Thomas, this one will make it into the TipsTricks section of
the upcoming website for German Mandrake users.

wobo

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Re: [expert] Re: Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 09:56, T. Ribbrock wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:12:08AM -0700, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
  If I understand you, there is no need to set your mail agent's reply-to 
  to the list.
 
 Personally, I hardly ever set a Reply-To...
 
 
  In fact, if you leave reply-to unset, all replies to mail 
  you send will be sent back to the address you are sending from, except 
  in such cases as the mailing lists,  where replies ought to be 
  automatically sent to the list, not you.  The list is a public forum, 
  not a private resource.
 
 I agree, but to me, the principle of least surprise works the other
 way round: If I hit reply, I expect to reply to the sender, not the
 list - that's the way it always works.
 In my case, if I want to reply to the list, I hit list-reply, not
 reply.

I don't get the mail from the sender ... I get it from the list.  The
reply to isn't set it's exactly as it should be ... from the sender. 
Which in this case is the list server.  Not you or any other
individual.  

 
 
  If someone wants to make a private reply to a 
  mail on the list, it is incumbent upon them to reply only to the 
  individual, not incumbent upon everyone else to change the automatic 
  behavior everytime they wish to reply to the list.
 
 But the Reply-To header of the list does change the automatic
 behaviour - reply and list-reply now work the same, which would
 not be the case if Reply-To wasn't set at all...
 On second thought, I realize that I might be forgetting that there are
 too many mail clients that don't have list-reply, which is a pity.
 Great functionality.

Dunno what list reply you refer to.  
 
 
  http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
  http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to
 
 Thanks for the pointers! I admit I'm not convinced, but I see that I'm
 in a minority here, so I'll shut up now (and promise not to set
 Reply-To... ;-) ).
 
 Cheerio,
 
 Thomas
 
 P.S.:
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
 
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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill Mullen said:
 
  It may be worth noting that permissions on this and many other
  devices are
  controlled by the settings within one's
  /etc/security/console.perms file.
 
 What is the best way to view/edit this file?  I checked it out
 with VI, but I was wondering if there were something better
 suited?

Depends on what you like.  I like VI others like Emacs... still more
like kedit, gedit or some other graphical editor.  It's a taste think
more than anything else.

 
  I wrestled with a similar problem recently, trying to get xawtv to
  work
  reliably on a 9.1 system with an older, Mach64-based ATI TV Wonder
  card. I
  ended up having to go with using sudo to run it, and created a
  menu entry
  and a desktop icon that invoked xawtv via sudo for the system's
  owner. So
  far, so good, but I would have preferred to find a more elegant
  solution.
 
  As this isn't a problem on 9.0 and earlier releases, something is
  borked
  in this regard on 9.1, I strongly suspect ... but what?
 
 I think as well, and not backed by facts but only supposition;
 when we start adding several multimedia apps / hardware to the
 computer, are we not losing the inherent security?  I realize it´s
 not a good idea to run as root, even behind a firewall.  I´ve
 wiped out similar named directories before by not obeying the
 rules, boy that hurts!  But when you´re talking about a device
 driver - while not a purist approach - is it that important?
 
 


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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread michael

James Sparenberg said:

 What is the best way to view/edit this file?  I checked it out
 with VI, but I was wondering if there were something better
 suited?

 Depends on what you like.  I like VI others like Emacs... still
 more
 like kedit, gedit or some other graphical editor.  It's a taste
 think
 more than anything else.

I was looking for more like ´g_edit_your_security.frontend´
VI works just fine, I wasn´t sure if there exits a preferred
method for editing the source file.


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Re: [expert] Archives (was: Reply-to)

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 09:46, T. Ribbrock wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:38:15AM -0700, Jack Coates wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:55, T. Ribbrock wrote:
  
  ...
   [0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search
   daemon - are there other archives?
  
  Google, and add site:mandrakelinux.com to the end of the search string.
  e.g.:
  http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=t+Ribbrock+site%3Amandrakelinux.combtnG=Google+Search
 
 I'll try that next time, thanks. Pity that the official archives don't
 seem to work - or was that a fluke?
 
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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 12:09, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Monday 06 October 2003 11:58 am, ed tharp wrote:
 
  do you have an nvidia video card? running Nvidia drivers?
 
 Yep, sure do - is that an issue? Its a Ti4200, BTW...using the latest drivers.
I don't know if it is an issue for you, but I had to issue a couple of
commands to get other permissions straight for some programs. have you
tried as root with out the quotes; 
 cd /etc/security/
chmod 0666 /dev/nvidia*
chown root /dev/nvidia*

and see if it helps. 


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[expert] numlock

2003-10-06 Thread michael
Hey all,
Small annoyance...
I have the numlock rpm installed and numlock is enabled during
boot.  When I startx though, I lose numlock.  I think it used to
work, to tell the truth though, I´ve been too busy to really think
about it.  Where can I go to make it stick on?
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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:35, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200:
 
  Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have
  a look at badmem:
  it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would
  be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-))
 
 Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest
 reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work
 with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to
 1GByte!
 
 If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices
 I received this year.
 
 wobo
 
Wobo,

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Re: [expert] Sound card

2003-10-06 Thread Joachim v. Jena
Richard,

Richard Bown wrote:
Many thanks for that Joachim.

I'm sure the mixer setting s are OK, as turning pcm and line up to full
I could hear the background noise, and the mic worked OK as well.
I suspect my friend has the same mobo, unfortunately you cant disable
the sound card in the bios, pheonix bios is horrible !!
What I could do as a short term fix is to put another sound card in and
load the modules for that card.
Please correct me if I'm wrong , if the modules are loaded for the
additional sound card, and not for the inboard sound card, that will
work until I can load MDK9.2 on 
Yes it will. No need to disable the built-in soundchip.

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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request

2003-10-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 06 October 2003 04:46 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:


 listed do not get processed by spamassassin.  The second recipe is:
 :0fH:

  * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes

 | /dev/null

 I have tried several different variations of this with regards to the :0f
 entry.  I have tried :0f, :0fw, :0fW, and so on to no avail.  How do I get
 procmail to use this second recipe?

Use:

:0
* ^X-Spam-Flag: YES
/dev/null

BTW, you might want to not top-post before one of the other sticklers brings 
it up.

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Re: [expert] Evolution 1.4.5 Tex problem

2003-10-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:23, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 I tried to install Evolution 1.4.5 from tex, but it fails to load (error
 in shellcode.so I believe)
 
 Is it working for someone here?
 I'm on Mandrake 9.1, using KDE
 
 Thanks
 
 Guy

Guy,
   Bunch of dependencies (thank you urpmi!) later.  I'm sending this
e-mail to you.  I just did urpmi.update -a then urpmi --auto
--auto-select and let it run for a bit.  

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 18:53, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bill Mullen said:
  
   It may be worth noting that permissions on this and many other
   devices are
   controlled by the settings within one's
   /etc/security/console.perms file.
  
  What is the best way to view/edit this file?  I checked it out
  with VI, but I was wondering if there were something better
  suited?
 
 Depends on what you like.  I like VI others like Emacs... still more
 like kedit, gedit or some other graphical editor.  It's a taste think
 more than anything else.
 
  

cat,, so you just read it
   I wrestled with a similar problem recently, trying to get xawtv to
   work
   reliably on a 9.1 system with an older, Mach64-based ATI TV Wonder
   card. I
   ended up having to go with using sudo to run it, and created a
   menu entry
   and a desktop icon that invoked xawtv via sudo for the system's
   owner. So
   far, so good, but I would have preferred to find a more elegant
   solution.
  
   As this isn't a problem on 9.0 and earlier releases, something is
   borked
   in this regard on 9.1, I strongly suspect ... but what?
  
  I think as well, and not backed by facts but only supposition;
  when we start adding several multimedia apps / hardware to the
  computer, are we not losing the inherent security?  I realize it´s
  not a good idea to run as root, even behind a firewall.  I´ve
  wiped out similar named directories before by not obeying the
  rules, boy that hurts!  But when you´re talking about a device
  driver - while not a purist approach - is it that important?
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Re: Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 06 October 2003 06:49 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 09:56, T. Ribbrock wrote:

 snip

  On second thought, I realize that I might be forgetting that there are
  too many mail clients that don't have list-reply, which is a pity.
  Great functionality.

 Dunno what list reply you refer to.

In KMail, a Reply to Mailing-List tool can be added to the toolbar. Perhaps 
other mail clients offer the same option. Good blood-pressure-keeper-downer.
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[expert] Unloading usbscanner

2003-10-06 Thread Miark
I need to stop Linux from using the usbscanner driver (or
module, or whatever it is) so that VMWare can take control
of my Epson 1260 USB scanner. How do I do that?

By the way, I ask because when I try to connect my scanner in VMWare, it
says, The specified device appears to be claimed by another driver
(usbscanner) on the host operating system which means that the device
may be in use. VMware Workstation cannot safely take control of the
device until the host driver is unloaded.

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Re: [expert] Hyperthreading and Mandrake 9.1

2003-10-06 Thread Larry Sword
Traci Collins wrote:

Thank you for these suggestions. I'll be trying both later today. Just a
quick question, if I use noinitrd how does the system know which img
file to use?
Traci

noinitrd
This boot time option disables the two phase boot-up operation. The 
kernel performs the usual boot sequence as if /dev/initrd was not 
initialized. With this option, any contents of /dev/initrd loaded into 
memory by the boot loader contents are preserved. This option permits 
the contents of /dev/initrd to be any data and need not be limited to a 
file system image. However, device /dev/initrd is read-only and can be 
read only one time after system startup.

See: man initrd

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Re: [expert] Re: Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:56:16 +0200
T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  In fact, if you leave reply-to unset, all replies to mail 
  you send will be sent back to the address you are sending from,
  except in such cases as the mailing lists,  where replies ought to
  be automatically sent to the list, not you.  The list is a public
  forum, not a private resource.
 
 I agree, but to me, the principle of least surprise works the other
 way round: If I hit reply, I expect to reply to the sender, not the
 list - that's the way it always works.
 In my case, if I want to reply to the list, I hit list-reply, not
 reply.

snip

You know most MUA's don't have a list reply, dont you? And i am not
just referring to Outl*.*

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[expert] VPN + proxy configuration?

2003-10-06 Thread rikona
Hello expert,

I would like to set up a VPN to my ISP.

My network setup is:

ISP - local router/firewall - local net - computer A,B,C...

Is it possible to configure the VPN on comp A as follows:

local net - [ VPN client - local proxies - browser, news, mail, etc clients]

The local proxies currently operate as 'localhost', and the clients
are set up to use a 'localhost' proxy on the appropriate port, say 80
for HTTP. The local proxy of most interest is Privoxy. It makes
browsing nicer and more private.

How can I set this up in Mandrake? My ISP has available a Cisco IPSEC
client for linux, if it is needed. The usual VPN setup is as follows:

local net - [ VPN client - browser, news, mail, etc clients]

What I am most interested in is ADDING the local proxies to the chain.

Also, I have the local net, with Win machines, set up to share files
and printing. If I allow this VPN tunnel to my ISP, thus making a
direct connection to my local net inside the router/firewall, will
that essentially compromise my security by allowing others to see my
local network and files? If so, is there a way to prevent this
(perhaps by setting up a vpn network zone in the Mandrake firewall)?

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 06 October 2003 07:28 pm, ed tharp wrote:

 I don't know if it is an issue for you, but I had to issue a couple of
 commands to get other permissions straight for some programs. have you
 tried as root with out the quotes; 
  cd /etc/security/
 chmod 0666 /dev/nvidia*
 chown root /dev/nvidia*

 and see if it helps.

Oh that stuff - yeah, thats pretty standard and I do it almost out of habit 
whenever I install nvidia stuff. grin thanks though!

Er, wait a minute - why do you change to /etc/security then change 
permissions/ownership in a different place - /dev/nvidia? I don't quite 
understand that.../dev is not in /etc/security.

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Re: [expert] numlock

2003-10-06 Thread Eric Huff
 I have the numlock rpm installed and numlock is enabled during
 boot.  When I startx though, I lose numlock.  I think it used to
 work, to tell the truth though, I´ve been too busy to really think
 about it.

I have the same problem. I think it *might* have started with a
recent X update?

I use pekwm  9.1.

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Re: [expert] KDE start up is too slow!!

2003-10-06 Thread Kaveh Gh

 Dear All,

 As I've had a problem in X start-up( it was too slow
), I've taken a look in /etc/hosts file. I have a NAT,
DHCP server act as a gateway to the outside and it has
not problem. but one of my stations in my private LAN
had prob. I've added the localhost.local-domain
localhost names to /etc/hosts file and reboot the PC.
The problem was solved!   It's ok that the reason of
prob was some network misconfiguration. So, thanks for
your help.

--- Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:44 pm, many eyes noted that
 Kaveh Gh wrote:
  I've installed mdk-9.0 on a 40Gb western-digital
  (WDC-4000C) HDD several times and never seen any
  problem with installation and boot-up of system or
 KDE
  start-up.
 
 snip
 
 No problem with the hard drive? hdparm -tT /dev/hda
 might tell you something?
 
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[expert] Re: Reply-to

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 03:49:02PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
 I don't get the mail from the sender ... I get it from the list.

Well, here, all mails are From: the person who sent it, which makes
sense, as the list server just re-sends them.


  But the Reply-To header of the list does change the automatic
  behaviour - reply and list-reply now work the same, which would
  not be the case if Reply-To wasn't set at all...
  On second thought, I realize that I might be forgetting that there are
  too many mail clients that don't have list-reply, which is a pity.
  Great functionality.
 
 Dunno what list reply you refer to.  

Then your mail program doesn't seem to have it. In mutt, if I hit
r for reply, I reply to the sender, i.e. to whoever is in From:,
unless it's overruled by Reply-To:. When I hit g for
group-reply, I reply to all mailaddresses in the header (From:, Cc:)
and if I hit L, I do a list-reply, i.e. I reply to the mailing
list (though I have to tell mutt to which mailing lists I'm
subscribed). As I said, great functionality - pity that not all mail
clients have it.

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Re: [expert] Unloading

2003-10-06 Thread michael
Miark mused:
 I need to stop Linux from using the usbscanner driver (or
 module, or whatever it is) so that VMWare can take control
 of my Epson 1260 USB scanner. How do I do that?

 By the way, I ask because when I try to connect my scanner in
 VMWare, it
 says, The specified device appears to be claimed by another
 driver
 (usbscanner) on the host operating system which means that the
 device
 may be in use. VMware Workstation cannot safely take control of
 the
 device until the host driver is unloaded.

 tia,
 Miark

I don´t know if you´ve been here already, but...

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws4/doc/devices_usb_ws.html

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Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?

2003-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:58:36 -0700:

 Wobo,
 
If you do this successfully care to put in the twiki how you did
it? 
 James

Will do but maybe not before end of month. Too busy now with 9.2 manuals
on that very machine.

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Re: [expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting

2003-10-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 06 October 2003 02:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, as far as the suid, it would get you working without having
 to do ´su´ everytime.  Is it a good answer?  No.
 I have a Logitech quickcam as well (I don´t know about the 3000
 part), and my setup consisted of pluging it in.  The only thing I
 can figure is that you either have a higher default security than
 I, or it´s the devfs thing.  I only say devfs, because it´s the
 one thing I don´t use.  I have had problems with zip drives, flash
 card readers, pda, I think even my scanner has had problems.  When
 I disable devfs, everything starts working.  I don´t remember if
 you said you use devfs or not, but I don´t have a clue what else
 it could be.  You just shouldn´t have to start hacking your system
 to pieces - like I said, it works fine here.  Logic would say, it
 has to be something fairly obvious.

Right, I understand what you're saying.

Nope, devfs is disabled here, both in /etc/lilo.conf and under services, and I 
used the default (low) security setting when I installed, so I dunno...

Thanks for your input though.

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