Re: [expert] Shockwave Player for Linux Campaign
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 12:05, Sebastien Routier wrote: Got this from an other list: --- One of my dwindling requirements for Windows is that our family likes Shockwave games on a few sites and Crossover's plug-in costs money. (Boo!) I saw a story about this on Newsforge and thought that we all can do something about this. Here's the link: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2003-Feb/0007.html I'll be signing up. --- I already signed up!! What about you? thanks for the link and yes I did sign in... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:35, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] A bit more information and I am no longer prepared to be T'd off when I get my CDs. I see that the bare-bones, 3CD iso download addition is what is missing the kernel source, not what I ordered (nor what anyone paid for). Given this, it is still not unreasonable to NOT include the any experimental kernel, multimedia kernel, enterprise kernel, smp kernel, etc, IF that is what it takes to get something as basic as the kernel-source onto the first 3 CDs. Have the others available for download separately as it is a Cant there just be 4 cd's, and also change to separate bittorrent files rather to let you choose which cd you want, that way you can get your 1,2,3 or 4. If you down need your kernels then just dont download the 4th? Also when 9.2 goes public why dont the mirrors mirror the three iso's as torrents and then the general public can get the download advantage? Regards Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Firebird, Thunderbird
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:46:29PM -0500, Dave Sherman wrote: T. Ribbrock wrote: I'm curious: Does an out-of-the-box MDK 9.1 (or 9.2) install fulfill those dependencies? Did for me on 9.1. Cool, thanks! Next step: Installing Firebird at home... I tried it at work under Win00 and it's the best browser I've seen so far, especially with the Extensions. Cheerio, Thomas -- - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slightly OT - Apache Mod_SSL
Update! Problem solved, the key mismatch was because of a problem with the crt file. Got a new crt generated and it is fine. Seb On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:30, seb wrote: Hi everyone :) I have a MDK 8.2 box with Apache 1.3.23, it has come time to renew the ssl certificate for this machine. Now i have been through and generated the csr etc etc and it has been signed and now i have to add the new certificate and encrypted key to the servers config. Basically what i was trying to do was to back up the old ones and then create the new ones in their place named as they were. Restart httpd and technically i should be up and away. Now when i start apache i get it hanging, when i check syslog it is waiting for the password. Now i may have had temporary brain failure but how can i redirect the standard out from syslog to a terminal where i can put in the password and the second part of my question is when i use the command openssl rsa -in new.key -out new.key.decrypted And change the appropriate lines in ssl.vhost-conf i get a key mismatch. I would appreciate any assistance as the old certificate expires tomorrow. Regards Sebastian McDonagh Sydney Aus __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Sebastian McDonagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] test message
I think it went dead again. Man what a week first we lose Texstar and now the list. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
Thanks for the reply. Yeh ... done that ... It's going into a cisco catalyst 2900XL and I've tried a few patch cables which work straight away when plugged into another PC .. the machine that isn't working is lighting up on the switch. I have 3 LAN cards with the same chipset ... all do the same thing ... it's like some odd routing restriction is in place? .. no firewall is enabled or anything. Brett. - Original Message - From: Kwan Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . Sounds suspiciously like a bad cable/connection. Can you try switching the cable to a known-good and plugging into a know-good port on the hub or switch? -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
You may also have a net mask wrong on one of the units. A little more info would be helpful. From a term screen type the command ifconfig and paste the info you get as well as thje results from the route -n command to the email. Make sure your link lights are on for both the gateway, pc, and switch/hub. Like Kwan says you may have a bad or incorrect cable. On Star Date Thursday 16 October 2003 06:06 pm, Kwan Lowe sent this sub-space message. When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . Sounds suspiciously like a bad cable/connection. Can you try switching the cable to a known-good and plugging into a know-good port on the hub or switch? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK9.1 to MDK9.2 Update Issues - Hope that this is not a Final ISO!
I performed the update to 9.2 today while on assignment in Aruba. I noticed that my Terminals all disappeared from the KDE Environment after the update. Is this an expected Feature? Also an associate of mine indicated that when the Install CD was placed in a Windows Environment, the Information indicated that there was a link to update to Mandrake 9.1 (OOPS!). Looks like there are a few issues to clean up before the final release! -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists SPAM Zapper - www.No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
Hi the wizard does not always get it right. Check ifconfig and make sure the interface is up, you can also see what packets its received and sent. Also check your routing route -en Did you start shorewall ?(the firewall,I think 9.0 used Bastille) I'm not sure of the default MDK rules, but worth checking if you did start it if icmp type 8 is allowed. see /etc/shorewall/rules. Also worth checking in resolv.conf that there is a valid DNS server, the default from the wizard is localhost. Apart from that as Kwan said your down to the physical connection to the LAN HTH Richard On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 00:46, Brett W Tippet wrote: Hey guys .. got a slightly weird one. I've been running Mandrake 9.0 for ages .. I've just put another pc on my network and have install 9.1 ... the install has seemed to install all the required packages and has found the correct hardware (including the NIC) .. I have the pc on a 192.168.0.0 network .. I've given it 192.168.0.200 and the gateway is 192.168.0.1 When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . ANY help would be much appreciated. Thanks guys. Brett -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Failure validating SSL/TLS certificate
Recently changed to a new cable company, had the usual hassles with the windows-centric tech help, but was able to get my broadband connection going. However, when I try to send mail (in pine) I get the message: There was a failure validating the SSL/TLS certificate for the server mail.insightbb.com. Hitting enter with Details highlighted provides additional information: Self signed certificate in certificate chain. and it then gives the certificate being verified. How do I avoid self-signing that certificate? Is there a file I can hand-edit to fix this? The warning message also tells me that if this failure is expected and permanent you can add the option /novalidate-cert to the name of the folder you attempted to access. I was able to send this mail by answering y(es) to ignore the warning and continue. The alternative would have been to answer n(o) to cancel the open folder. Pine help is not usually this cryptic. I wasn't aware that I was trying to access a folder, or that I had an open folder to close. I thought I was trying to send an email. Can anyone here clarify before I go looking for a pine mailing list? TIA, Dale Huckeby (using 9.1 in case it's an mcc configuration issue) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Postfix and my default domain name not resolving as fast as my virtuals
Bryan wrote: :James, you might want to give us a little more info about how you are :going to be setting things up. Good idea.. sorry, I should know better than that. Ok, here goes.. I'm running Mandrake 9.1, and I wish to use Postfix. Postfix is already installed and I can access it through Webmin. I am running my own web server and have a static ip, so I will be using my own domain with DNS MX records already set. One question to start off with.. I don't understand why all my virtual servers EXCEPT the default virtual (the domain name) take so long to resolve when I remove the cable from my old server (Mandrake 7.1) and plug it into my new server (Mandrake 9.1). For example, when I have the old server physically connected to the Internet, everything works wonderfully.. the virtuals and the default domain name. When I unplug the cable and connect it to the new server, all the virtuals work great, but my default domain (which is *also* a virtual server) takes an hour or two to resolve. In other words, I can see my virtuals when I connect to the internet with a different computer, but not the default virtual until an hour or more later.. sometimes longer. BUT, I *can* see the default virtual if I type in the ip number (instead of the name) immediately. Here is an example of my setup for the default: @ IN SOA ns.vivid-eye.com. jamesf.efn.org. ( 200309221 ; Serial 1H ; Refresh 1H ; Retry 1H ; expire 1H) ; Minimum ; NS ns ;Inet Address of name server ; localhost A 127.0.0.1 ns A 63.224.195.57 ns2 IN A63.224.195.60 www CNAME ns vivid-eye.com. IN MX 10 www.vivid-eye.com. vivid-eye.com. IN A 63.224.195.57 www.vivid-eye.com. IN CNAME vivid-eye.com --- Here is an example of one of my virtuals: @ IN SOA powwowdance.com. james.efn.org. ( 200306161 ; Serial 3H ; Refresh 1H ; Retry 1H ; expire 1H) ; Minimum ; NS ns ;Inet Address of name server ; localhost A 127.0.0.1 ns A 63.224.195.57 ns2 IN A63.224.195.60 @ IN A 63.224.195.57 www CNAME ns - The virtual server powwowdance.com connects within a minute after I remove the cable from the old server, and connect it to the new server, but the vivid-eye.com doesn't show up for hours at least. Ok, I mentioned all that because I have a feeling this is why I am not getting Postfix to send and receive mail correctly.. since the vivid-eye.com isn't being seen. Can I change something to have the default vivid-eye.com resolve as fast at powwowdance.com? Thanks. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] question on VPN's
All, Ok I'm planing the IT section for a new company. As such I've got a ground up ability to do it as right as I possibly can . the first time. Initial load will be about 20 people (Mixed windows and Linux to start adding other Unix as needed.) with a ton of data storage needed. (RD group) Now I'm planning on a RAID array for data storage with Samba/NFS for storage/sharing of data files. (Data Only no applications.) The questions I have are. 1. What VPN software do you recommend for a mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environment? 2. Looking at RaidZone Raid servers. Any info? 3. Anything better than VPN for Data Sharing in Windows (2000 btw maybe XP but I hope to avoid that nightmare.) 4. Would you if you could go all laptop for your developers and other Engineers. 5. Any recommendations for encryption of a Raid Array that works again cross platform. 6. Know of anyone doing wireless data encryption for windows and Linux beyond WEP. 7. Anyone got a recipe for direct caffeine infusion *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:49, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:24, Jack Coates wrote: you make the fatal assumption that IE supports the standard. It doesn't. Standard code works on IE if it's really really simple, but frequently breaks in ugly ways. Transparent PNGs. PNGs at all (color is off). Advanced CSS features, like flow. Many advanced Javascript form functions. Especially, on the CSS support. We have Java based (JSP) system we developed to create and issue insurance certificates for commercial insurance. The completed certificate is displayed in two frames. A small horizontal frame, containing nothing more that a few navigation buttons and a background, over the main window in which the completed certificate is rendered in the Adobe Acrobat reader plug-in. Recently, we started getting complaints from our users that the system was very slow and that it would take a minute or more for a certificate to be displayed. During troubleshooting we discovered that it could take up to 5 minutes to display the certificate from the time the user clicked the submit button if they used IE. However, if they used Netscape 4.78, or later, the certificate would be displayed in less than a second. In most cases it was displayed, before the user could even move their hand. Since we make this web based application available to our customers, it was imperative that we find the cause and resolve it. After several days of troubleshooting and debugging our head Java programmer found the problem. A contract programmer, who is no longer employed, had coded a 6 line Cascading Style Sheet for the top frame. We removed the CSS and recoded to the page. Now it displays in less than a second using IE as well as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera. et all.. Chuck, I think you've stated better than anyone I've ever heard why it's important to view a site in 1. Every browser you can find. 2. On every box within reach EXCEPT the developers box. 3. Oer a 56k modem with a crap connection. This last one doesn't apply as much if you live outside the US and the 3rd world. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 09:13, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:36:22 -0700: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:35, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:31:08 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: where did you see this? http://www.mandrakestore.com/mdkinc/index.php?PAGE=tab_6/menu_0.phpid_art=342LANG_=en#GOTO_342 K cool ... looks like they are bundling Win4Lin demo in with the Discovery cd set. I'm looking for the proof of this but this seems to be the case. (I'd seen the rumours, and win4lin kernels are in cooker contrib) No, I guess it's just a translation mistake. It was meant to be: Run Windows and Linux on the same PC = Dualboot wobo Ah, Well dang, I mean it is possible to do it with Win4Lin's or VMWares demo. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mandrake 9.1 reboot problem?
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 02:54, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: That reminds me - a Thinkpad P40 will not power off either with ACPI nor with APM. It just gets stuck after Linux shuts itself down, and displays 'power off'. This is under 2.6.0test7. -turgut Turgut, This is a bug that should go to Linus's Kernel team for sure. As 2.6 is still in beta form. Not to discourage you here, I would never want to do that. But rather to get the info to the guys who can and will do something about the problem. James - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for professional use ? Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Clustering
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 07:42, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Hi All, I came across this yesterday ( http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/clustering ) but unfortunately cant find more info on it than the 1 page pdf document. How does it compare/contrast with, say OpenMosix or Beowulf, and the like. Anyone knows anything about this product, or more resource to it? _Thanks Richard For the tools http://ka-tools.sourceforge.net/ Basically urpmi on steroids. http://clic.mandrakesoft.com/index-en.html for the distro itself and it even has it's own mailing list for further info. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 09:41, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Err, in following this thread my first thought is: isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? The HAVE to supply the source and should make allowances (reductions in certain packages) if it is not possible to put the source on one of the official distro CDs. Kernel source is critical for many reasons, not leastwise to comply with GPL. praedor No, the violation would be if it wasn't available at all. Since it is available via urpmi and or the web. (Which is the same way you get the download iso's) it's not a violation. If you notice, none of the iso's have src rpms. No problem they are available in the same manor as the binaries. 'Download. Jaems - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jsowaKr9sJYeTxgRAh8WAKCOIDlJUS5C3yGOQAQcPbSUgkvtLACfUubB IS5qfJ4ABPseslD87RmTwXQ= =fXZN -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firebird, Thunderbird
Rolf Pedersen wrote: Mandrake has mozilla-firebird in contrib/ for 9.2 and I had it installed in 9.1, so it is probably also in 9.1 contrib/. Nope, can't find it. It might be in plf which seems to be broken (at least for me) right now. Will have to try Dave's suggestion. Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Automount missing
Hello James; indeed it's Supermount that I meant, sorry about that. I am now using 2.6.0test7-bk8. I tried the supermount enable command but it did not seem to do anything. Thanks! -turgut On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:54, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: Hi there. After upgrading my Mandrake's kernel, I realised that I no longer had automount (no big deal actually; I wrote a two-liner to mount the CD-ROM), but it would be nice to have it back. Any ideas on how to re-install Automount into the kernel? Thanks! -turgut If by automount you mean supermount (They are different is why I'm asking) could you let us know 2 things what the rpm name is of the new kernel you have and what version you are on. Also does supermount /mnt/cdrom enable get it back for you? James - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
On October 16, 2003 04:46 pm, Brett W Tippet wrote: Hey guys .. got a slightly weird one. I've been running Mandrake 9.0 for ages .. I've just put another pc on my network and have install 9.1 ... the install has seemed to install all the required packages and has found the correct hardware (including the NIC) .. I have the pc on a 192.168.0.0 network .. I've given it 192.168.0.200 and the gateway is 192.168.0.1 When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . ANY help would be much appreciated. Thanks guys. Brett If you can set up internet sharing your outgoing nic, which should be DHCP, and surf from the host then you're fine. As for the internal network if you used the wizard after you assigned the fixed IP to the network you're going to run into a problem. For some reason the wizard wants to use 192.168.1.xxx. Check your scripts :) Also, you will either need to manually assign IP's to every other NIC on the network or use DHCP server and assign them that way. I'd recommend DHCP. Have fun! ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Shockwave Player for Linux Campaign
On October 16, 2003 05:29 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Thursday 16 October 2003 03:05 pm, Sebastien Routier wrote: Got this from an other list: --- One of my dwindling requirements for Windows is that our family likes Shockwave games on a few sites and Crossover's plug-in costs money. (Boo!) I saw a story about this on Newsforge and thought that we all can do something about this. Here's the link: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2003-Feb/0007.html I'll be signing up. --- I already signed up!! What about you? Sebastien: Thanks for the link. Shockwave is used on a lot of the kiddie sites that Will (3 year old grandson) and I visit. One thing does bother me, though: The posting to the suse-kde list was in early February! -- cmg Don't worry..SUSE just got an 8 month head start. Time for the Mandrake Mavens to flood them out. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:49, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:24, Jack Coates wrote: you make the fatal assumption that IE supports the standard. It doesn't. Standard code works on IE if it's really really simple, but frequently breaks in ugly ways. Transparent PNGs. PNGs at all (color is off). Advanced CSS features, like flow. Many advanced Javascript form functions. Especially, on the CSS support. We have Java based (JSP) system we developed to create and issue insurance certificates for commercial insurance. The completed certificate is displayed in two frames. A small horizontal frame, containing nothing more that a few navigation buttons and a background, over the main window in which the completed certificate is rendered in the Adobe Acrobat reader plug-in. Recently, we started getting complaints from our users that the system was very slow and that it would take a minute or more for a certificate to be displayed. During troubleshooting we discovered that it could take up to 5 minutes to display the certificate from the time the user clicked the submit button if they used IE. However, if they used Netscape 4.78, or later, the certificate would be displayed in less than a second. In most cases it was displayed, before the user could even move their hand. Since we make this web based application available to our customers, it was imperative that we find the cause and resolve it. After several days of troubleshooting and debugging our head Java programmer found the problem. A contract programmer, who is no longer employed, had coded a 6 line Cascading Style Sheet for the top frame. We removed the CSS and recoded to the page. Now it displays in less than a second using IE as well as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera. et all.. Chuck, I think you've stated better than anyone I've ever heard why it's important to view a site in 1. Every browser you can find. 2. On every box within reach EXCEPT the developers box. 3. Oer a 56k modem with a crap connection. This last one doesn't apply as much if you live outside the US and the 3rd world. James Get real James, I live in Australia, and broadband over here either isn't available in most areas, or is to expensive.. I have ADSL, but it costs me 85 a month and has only 256/64 and to get a static IP address required that they limit my bandwidth to 1 gig a month... Now tell me again why only US should test with Dialup? in Australia Dialup still outnumbers broadband by a massive martgin. Trust me, from the people I know over there, those that do have broadband, have MUCH better broadband then those of us in Australia. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Why not use the default directories?
A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill wrote: You may also have a net mask wrong on one of the units. A little more info would be helpful. From a term screen type the command ifconfig and paste the info you get as well as the results from the route -n command to the email. It would be good to also see the contents of the following files: /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 This is where the network settings are stored. The GATEWAY setting is in the first file, the IP address, netmask, broadcast etc. are in ifcfg-eth0. It is often easier and more reliable to just edit these files manually instead of using a wizard. Doing a: # service network restart should make your changes take effect. Use ifconfig to make sure the NIC is up and has the right IP, etc.. - -- KevinO If Microsoft built cars, If you were involved in a crash, you would have no idea what happened. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/j83QWOfRC7Rnmv8RAvANAJ0SJV7zmdbpM4xldLNJCOzpvpD1EgCfXKAX I0HJ3TIVyor091idCfuxZ+4= =BeR0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 10:08, Felix Miata wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Felix Miata schrieb am Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:17:57 -0400: Run Windows and Linux from same boot partition = Dualboot Run Windows and Linux different partitions on the same PC = Multiboot Huh? I thought the difference between dualboot and multiboot was the number of systems? Dualboot= 2 different systems, multiboot = more than 2 different systems. Yes, dual does mean 2 - 2 exactly. But, multi means more than 1. So, the two terms can easily be confused when the actual count is two. The difference is multiboot uses some type of boot manager that is capable of switching among two *or more*, while dualboot is crude, normally incapable of more than two. AFAIK, IBM first made the distinction back before Torvalds' kernel was first used for GPL operating systems, sometime around 1987 I think, certainly by 1990. How can you run Win and Linux from the same boot partition? AFAIK, that's what win4lin is for. I've never trusted doze to share space with any other OS, and don't know how it works. What you can do is run doze (DOS 7+) and DOS (pre-v7) from the same FAT partition, or DOS and older OS/2 versions from the same FAT partition. I have several systems on my pc and each system is on it's own partition(s). All are started by LILO in MBR. What kind of boot is that, a dualboot or a multiboot? And if that is what you call multiboot, how does dualboot work? Dual means exactly two. You're using multiboot if you see a startup menu, such as LILO, which offers more than one partition to choose to boot from. For DOS/doze or DOS/OS2 dualboot, you use an active system switcher utility to switch active kernel and startup files just prior to using the other system to reboot from. Dunno how win4lin works, but prolly something functionally similar. Not really. It actually works a lot like UML where there is a translation layer between Linux and M$ and it puts the M$ OS in it's own little sandbox, launching windows as if it where an application rather than an OS. It also has to handle things like RW requests to the HDD Ram shareing. Access to peripherals etc. I can run it either in a window just like an application or I can run it full screen on a seperate TTY just like with gdm. Neat thing is I can also treat M$ like another wm and launch it instead of KDE. james I've been running Linux now for several years but never heard that distinction. But I'm always happy to learn. Find an ancient OS/2 installation manual to read. See also URL below. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) Didn't MDK at one time have a product that did linux on windows? If I remember right it was slower than honey during an Alaskan winter. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 23:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) Didn't MDK at one time have a product that did linux on windows? If I remember right it was slower than honey during an Alaskan winter. James yes,, not really a Mandrake product, lin4win, I thought it was a choice if you are in windows when you put the CD in and it 'autostarted', at least it used to be. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:19, Thomas Backlund wrote: Hezekiah M. Carty kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 13 Lokakuu 2003 18:22): Thanks for the tip! I'll go try this out right away...I've been having constant stability problems with Mandrake and my new asus k7n8x deluxe nforce2 board. Hopefully this will help. Do you have any suggestions for a good lilo config? Any special kernel options to pass? I have that board myself, and yoo dont need any options no more to get it to boot... one thing of course ... if you have the onboard Sil3112 SATA controller enabled, and no hdd's attached to it, you will see some delays during bootup... Either disable the controller, or pass: hde=noprobe hdg=noprobe to the kernel I completed my 9.2 iso downloads, installed, and tried out the tmb kernel, but I'm still getting the seemingly random hard lockups. I did an install from the disks, added Club, Contrib and plf sources, added the tmb kernel+source and rebooted. Sometimes it will happen after a few minutes, sometimes after a few hours, and it doesn't seem to depend on system load. I don't think it's a hardware issue, as Win2k will run for days on end without a problem, both sitting idle, downloading, working, or playing games. So I'm not sure where to look next for a fix. Any suggestions? Thanks for all of your help, Hez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Thursday 16 October 2003 11:48 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) Didn't MDK at one time have a product that did linux on windows? If I remember right it was slower than honey during an Alaskan winter. Yeah, I believe it was called lin4win or something like that. It is how I installed 7.2 for the first time and was my first experience with Linux. It installed Linux in a loopback filesystem, so from Windows, you just saw one big file that was your Linux install, and no partitioning was necessary. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut I was thinking about this recently after doing some from-source installations of the 1.x Apache software. It was actually better for me that Mandrake chose to use their own hierarchy because otherwise my install would have been more difficult. Since software creators have some creative and unusual choices for their installation directories, it seems better for my sanity that they enforce their directory structure. Is it LSB compliant? Dunno, but it seems close. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, what is the tmb kernel? On Friday 17 October 2003 07:37 am, Hezekiah M. Carty wrote: [...] I completed my 9.2 iso downloads, installed, and tried out the tmb kernel, but I'm still getting the seemingly random hard lockups. I did an install from the disks, added Club, Contrib and plf sources, added [...] - -- Faith is the very antithesis of reason, injudiciousness a critical component of spiritual devotion. - --Krakauer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/j+Wqb1CLurEA6xURAgejAJwLWDC4vm4jhE9cFIea6j/gGs/CIwCdHJRL snW5FUPBa8JwHZaCSURJCEg= =i5Zt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut I have been asking myself this question for quite some time. I try to install the critical packages (those running as service or being invoked quite frequently, like evolution) using the developers packages and not those one coming in the distro CDs. This way, when a security vulnerability is fixed I just upgrade without waiting for Mandrake to build their own version of the package, which BTW they do pretty fast. Adolfo P.S. Sorry if this mail goes in HTML format. Using lookout express temporarily. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk
Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, what is the tmb kernel? It's a kind of cooker but for the kernel only. It receives untested patches, that are backported to the normal kernels when they have been thouroughly tested. Now there are 11 kernels, that are described in : http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MdkKernel92 Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0?
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:35 pm, many eyes noted that Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0 available? I prefer to upgrade using RPM. If RPM is not available, will it cause any problem if I use OO's installer? Thanks, No OpenOffice.org1.1.0 installs beautifully like this:- Untar it where you like then become root cd into /whereyouhaveit/install Then as root # ./install -prefix=/usr/lib Then go back to being user and $ cd /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.1.0 if that is the directory that OO has created. then $ ./setup Follow the prompts. Works a treat. Charlie -- Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure. Helen Keller This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
On Friday 17 Oct 2003 1:06 am, Kwan Lowe wrote: When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . Sounds suspiciously like a bad cable/connection. Can you try switching the cable to a known-good and plugging into a know-good port on the hub or switch? TCPDump is useful for debugging this sort of thing, -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.1 to MDK9.2 Update Issues - Hope that this is not a Final ISO!
On Thursday October 16 2003 09:44 pm, Albert Whale wrote: I noticed that my Terminals all disappeared from the KDE Environment after the update. Is this an expected Feature? Yes. KDE packages have been split up to make them more manageable. You just need to 'urpmi kdebase-konsole' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. You are right... I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Exactly. Could someone tell me how to build a 4th CD with RPMs not included in the first 3 ISOs but available on the FTP site? Once burned the ISOs I'd like to be able to install software without being connected to the internet. Thanks Olaf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
At 20.35 16/10/2003, you wrote: The reason for dropping kernel-source, was AFAIK to make room for all the kde-i18n, koffice-i18n stuff... as you know mdk supports *many* languages... i18n and similar were in other MDK distro... so they added something else, your explanation isn't an explanation. I hope the source will be back in next release, I have a 56k and, once I burned my 3 ISO downloaded somewhere else, I'd like to have the source of the kernel. If 3 ISO are not enough, release 3 ISO or remove some games, but NOT THE KERNEL SOURCE. Removing the kernel source will put off from Mandrake many potential Powerpack customers, I'm sure much more people than those that will buy Powerpack to have the sources or other extras... Olaf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firebird, Thunderbird
AS Reginvest wrote: Rolf Pedersen wrote: Mandrake has mozilla-firebird in contrib/ for 9.2 and I had it installed in 9.1, so it is probably also in 9.1 contrib/. Nope, can't find it. It might be in plf which seems to be broken (at least for me) right now. Will have to try Dave's suggestion. Wahur Oh, I see that the firebird I had installed in 9.1 came from Texstar: firebird-0.6-1tex. In 9.2, it is called mozilla-firebird-0.6.1-6mdk.i586.rpm, in contrib/. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Friday 17 Oct 2003 1:09 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 23:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) Didn't MDK at one time have a product that did linux on windows? If I remember right it was slower than honey during an Alaskan winter. James yes,, not really a Mandrake product, lin4win, I thought it was a choice if you are in windows when you put the CD in and it 'autostarted', at least it used to be. Mandrake offered a trial of win4lin with 9.0. I installed it, and am still with it. As long as you are running win98 it is great. Windows runs inside linux, I can run it in a windows that is near full-screen but still keeping the kicker bar visible, and swap backwards and forwards as necessary. It uses your linux drivers for peripherals, so it's not a solution for unsupported peripherals. Perhaps it was an older version that was slow, but I find it as fast as native windows, and incredibly stable. On the rare occasion that it has gone down you can of course get out of it without downing your linux, so I'm very happy with it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] question on VPN's
--- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Ok I'm planing the IT section for a new company. As such I've got a ground up ability to do it as right as I possibly can . the first time. Initial load will be about 20 people (Mixed windows and Linux to start adding other Unix as needed.) with a ton of data storage needed. (RD group) Now I'm planning on a RAID array for data storage with Samba/NFS for storage/sharing of data files. (Data Only no applications.) The questions I have are. 1. What VPN software do you recommend for a mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environment? Why Not Samba? 2. Looking at RaidZone Raid servers. Any info? I highly recommend promise technology Raid arrays. www.promise.com I have over 10TB sitting on these boxes for over a year now! 3. Anything better than VPN for Data Sharing in Windows (2000 btw maybe XP but I hope to avoid that nightmare.) Again, how about samba? 4. Would you if you could go all laptop for your developers and other Engineers. Like a Dell inspiron 8600, with docking station? Yes i would. 5. Any recommendations for encryption of a Raid Array that works again cross platform. Mmmh. 6. Know of anyone doing wireless data encryption for windows and Linux beyond WEP. 7. Anyone got a recipe for direct caffeine infusion *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# urpmq kernel-headers glibc-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# rpm -qf /usr/include/linux glibc-devel-2.3.2-15mdk curiouser and curiouser... I can't find a kernel-headers package either, but I know that my kernel-source wasn't installed the last time I reconfigured vmware. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:22, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 17 Oct 2003 1:09 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 23:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 01:03 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: www.phatlinux.com runs linux on a windoze partition, even on windoze XP/NTFS. Catch? It aint freee.nominal fee however. That was my first look at Mandrake (6.0). Then phatlinux was free. IIRC a 170mb zip file, expanded to about 500mb in a Windoze fat32 directory, C:\Mandrake. I was dual bootin Red Hat and Winblows at the time. I played around with phat for a short time, liked KDE, so I got 'real' Mandrake CD's and replaced RH ;) Didn't MDK at one time have a product that did linux on windows? If I remember right it was slower than honey during an Alaskan winter. James yes,, not really a Mandrake product, lin4win, I thought it was a choice if you are in windows when you put the CD in and it 'autostarted', at least it used to be. Mandrake offered a trial of win4lin with 9.0. I installed it, and am still with it. As long as you are running win98 it is great. Windows runs inside linux, I can run it in a windows that is near full-screen but still keeping the kicker bar visible, and swap backwards and forwards as necessary. It uses your linux drivers for peripherals, so it's not a solution for unsupported peripherals. Perhaps it was an older version that was slow, but I find it as fast as native windows, and incredibly stable. On the rare occasion that it has gone down you can of course get out of it without downing your linux, so I'm very happy with it. Anne that was win4lin , to run windows inside a linux file system (secure, and not to slow). not Lin4win, to run linux on a M$ file system (insecure,no permissions, emulated and slow,) -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# urpmq kernel-headers glibc-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# rpm -qf /usr/include/linux glibc-devel-2.3.2-15mdk curiouser and curiouser... I can't find a kernel-headers package either, but I know that my kernel-source wasn't installed the last time I reconfigured vmware. ahh, cause the headers are included with glibc, so they match the compiler??? -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help with ProFTP
The home dir setup can be in /etc/passwd for anonymous(ftp)user Or the directive Anonymous /home/ftp Read:: http://proftpd.linux.co.uk/localsite/Userguide/linked/config_ref_Anonymous.html _Thanks Richard MOllel --- J.P. Pasnak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodrigo said: Dear experts ... How I can change root directory for anonymous user ?? /etc/passwd ??? I have some permisions messages when I change the passwd file ... links to Admin's documentations ? Rodrigo S DFG, UCH IIRC, there is a '/etc/proftpd-anonymous.conf' file. Change it there. -- Live fast, die young, You're sucking up my bandwidth. J.P. Pasnak, CD CCNA http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Mandrake strives to conform to the Linux Standards Base and has been LSB certified: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/community/mandrakesoftnews/news?n=/mandrakesoft/products/2381 The LSB specifies the Filesystem Hiearchy Standard as the authority for where files go: http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.3.0/gLSB/gLSB/execenvfhs.html http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/index.html#TOC The standards allow for some options and are somewhat open to interpretation. Different software authors might have different interpretations, implement options differently, or lack compliance with these standards. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
From: Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 20.35 16/10/2003, you wrote: The reason for dropping kernel-source, was AFAIK to make room for all the kde-i18n, koffice-i18n stuff... as you know mdk supports *many* languages... i18n and similar were in other MDK distro... so they added something else, your explanation isn't an explanation. Actually if you think about it a bit before discarding my statement, you see what I mean... as packages / programs get developed / enchanced, they tend to grow, when adding more features... So here is a short comaprision... MDK 9.1 - all kde* + koffice* + locales* = ~240MB MDK 9.2 - all kde* + koffice* + locales* = ~262MB so there went ~22MB compairing the same kernels: MDK 9.1 ~73.6MB MDK 9.2 ~86.2MB so there went ~12.6MB now I am at 34.6MB already ;-) (wich is pretty much the size of kernel-source in 9.1, 9.2 kernel-source is ~40MB) and this list can be made longer... (I havent calculated any other) as we upgraded gnome to 2.4 - more space needed, added more supported kernels... and suddenly those 3 ISOs seem _very_ small... and looking at 9.1 Prosuite Edition CDs+DVD ONLY, they came with 8CD + 1DVD... the same for 9.2 is 9 + 1DVD, so that's 700MB of extra stuff between 9.1 and 9.2 I hope the source will be back in next release, I have a 56k and, once I burned my 3 ISO downloaded somewhere else, I'd like to have the source of the kernel. If 3 ISO are not enough, release 3 ISO or remove some games, but NOT THE KERNEL SOURCE. Removing the kernel source will put off from Mandrake many potential Powerpack customers, I'm sure much more people than those that will buy Powerpack to have the sources or other extras... and yes ... I do understand that many people would have liked the kernel-source on the download isos, but the descision has already been made, cd's manufactured ... and so on... Of course the next release could have a different decision... who knows ... but if you can't download the extra stuff over your modem, you could of course go somewhere (friend / library / net-cafe), where you can download it, burn it to a CD, and take it home... and install from the cd... and there will be an update kernel that will hitting the updates when it's ready... So then you would have to download the stuff anyway... Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] question on VPN's
On Friday 17 October 2003 17:22, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Ok I'm planing the IT section for a new company. As such I've got a ground up ability to do it as right as I possibly can . the first time. Initial load will be about 20 people (Mixed windows and Linux to start adding other Unix as needed.) with a ton of data storage needed. (RD group) Now I'm planning on a RAID array for data storage with Samba/NFS for storage/sharing of data files. (Data Only no applications.) The questions I have are. 1. What VPN software do you recommend for a mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environment? Why Not Samba? VPN Software ? Using openvpn over here. The VPN, with Samba, makes sense b.e. when using a Wifi Lan ? Cheers Joerg -- Are we running light with overbyte? | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | Web: http://www.solsys.org: Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP Fingerprint: AF0F FB75 997B 025F 4538 5AD6 9888 5D97 170B 8B7A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Upgrade from LAN?
Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Automount missing
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello James; indeed it's Supermount that I meant, sorry about that. I am now using 2.6.0test7-bk8. I tried the supermount enable command but it did not seem to do anything. Thanks! -turgut That's no MDK kernel... so you have to patch the kernel yourself´to get supermount support... you can get the patches from supermount-ng.sf.net... Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Friday 17 Oct 2003 4:30 pm, ed tharp wrote: that was win4lin , to run windows inside a linux file system (secure, and not to slow). not Lin4win, to run linux on a M$ file system (insecure,no permissions, emulated and slow,) Ah, yes. I remember reading about that. It didn't sound too good, and I don't know anyone who has used it. Besides, there doesn't sound to be much point :-) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Files not Showing up with ls
Mandy 9.0, reiserfs 3.6.3 on a Raid5 partition. First, i try to transfer files 8 files from remote host, using either sftp, scp or ftp. File listing there:: total 79984 -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus 3317856 Oct 17 07:08 s_01_6345.subrun.2d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus37602368 Oct 17 07:08 s_01_6345.subrun.3d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus1772 Oct 17 07:07 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.2d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus1567 Oct 17 07:07 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.3d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus 3317856 Oct 17 07:52 p_02_6345.subrun.2d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus37602368 Oct 17 07:52 p_02_6345.subrun.3d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus1772 Oct 17 07:52 p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.2d -rw-r--r-- 1 stuart nimbus1567 Oct 17 07:52 p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d It shows all files transfered. Then i do a listing on the local system (my mandy box). Only four show up!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll *6345* -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1772 Oct 17 09:30 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.2d -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567 Oct 17 09:30 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.3d -rw-r--r--1 stuart user 3317856 Oct 17 09:30 p_02_6345.subrun.2d -rw-r--r--1 stuart user37602368 Oct 17 09:31 p_02_6345.subrun.3d Then listing by inode:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll -i *6345* 18541 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1772 Oct 17 09:43 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.2d 18542 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567 Oct 17 09:43 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.3d 18543 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user 3317856 Oct 17 09:43 p_02_6345.subrun.2d 18544 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user37602368 Oct 17 09:43 p_02_6345.subrun.3d And then, individual listing of one of the missing files, by name, (Its there, it shows up then!!):: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll -li|grep 18546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567 Oct 17 09:38 p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d AND with inode to make sure it is there:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll -li|grep 18546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll -i p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d 18546 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567 Oct 17 09:38 p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d YEs, it is there, but not showing up otherwise, unless explicitly called. So then, i copy it to another filename, it works. I try a move:: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mv p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d.bad mv: cannot move `p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d` to `p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d.bad`: No such file or directory Wow.seems like some corruption in here. It is a 850GB filesystemI hope I dont have to backup/reformat and restore the whole thing!! Any other suggestions? (Havent ran reiserfsck yet, still mounted!) _Thanks Richard __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Upgrade from LAN?
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:21, Lee Wiggers wrote: Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee mount -t iso9660 -o loop myisoimage /mnt/point -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:34, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# urpmq kernel-headers glibc-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# rpm -qf /usr/include/linux glibc-devel-2.3.2-15mdk curiouser and curiouser... I can't find a kernel-headers package either, but I know that my kernel-source wasn't installed the last time I reconfigured vmware. ahh, cause the headers are included with glibc, so they match the compiler??? that's my interpretation. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] recovery from rpm horkage
a few days ago I screwed up one of my boxes by giving it some rpm commands while urpmi was running (combination of virtual desktops, urpmi database locking issue, and PEBCAK). I've done rpm --rebuilddb a couple of times so it's now consistent again; unfortunately, it's consistent in the belief that it hasn't got any RPMs installed :-) I figure this will gradually correct itself with urpmi.update --auto-select as the various packages get updated, but that's kind of lame and a waste of mirror bandwidth; any better ideas for fixing it? thanks, -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:08, Felix Miata wrote: Yes, dual does mean 2 - 2 exactly. But, multi means more than 1. So, the two terms can easily be confused when the actual count is two. The difference is multiboot uses some type of boot manager that is capable of switching among two *or more*, while dualboot is crude, normally incapable of more than two. AFAIK, IBM first made the distinction back before Torvalds' kernel was first used for GPL operating systems, sometime around 1987 I think, certainly by 1990. Dos 6, with a boot menu, iirc That was M$ in March 1993, which has nothing to do with what I wrote. DOS 6 boot menu is about choosing different configurations for one OS on one partition. No kernel switching or choosing is involved. IBM's first public distinction dates to the April 1992 release of the IBM Boot Manager in OS/2 2.0, which provided the option to install several operating systems on several partitions and choose among them via menu on each boot. This was provided as an alternative to installing OS/2 on the same partition as DOS, the dual boot option. The conception of IBM Boot Manager apparently dates back to 1983, when IBM first planned to have DOS and Xenix coexist on its PCs. -- The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Proverbs 9:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spam assassin and mrtg
I'm still triggering my frontend Interface for MRTG. Guess it'll take couple of more weeks to have it functional. It looks neat yet though :) Once it is finished - I'll get over to fine tune the MRTG Part, and maybe also take care of the Big Data-Files data gathering ... For that however logtail is one of the greatest inventions ... Ah- yes - the Interface can be viewed here: http://www.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=systatop=disp_indhost_id=1 It's the Index View - Click on the Images to have detailed ones. There is much to do on my Todo-List though :) But this is just a Private Hobby I'm coding on... still for php4.0.6 *g*. Cheers Joerg On Thursday 16 October 2003 22:35, Jack Coates wrote: yeah, the bash stuff is seriously vile and I'll be fixing it ASAP. I'd like to figure out and use db::tie, but failing that I'll optimize grep and awk to do one pass instead of four. The other thing is that I only care about two fields, so I've deleted the clean and processed lines. On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 12:01, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hmmm, couldn't use that one at work. The mail.info file growse about 5 GBytes/Day - so all 5 inutes parsing 4 times through that file would kill the server. I'd rather add logtail, and redefine the Options. Same for apache logs etc. :) Cheers -- A handful of friends is worth more than a wagon of gold. | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | Web: http://www.solsys.org: Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP Fingerprint: AF0F FB75 997B 025F 4538 5AD6 9888 5D97 170B 8B7A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spam assassin and mrtg
dang, that's right purty. Nice work! On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:59, Joerg Mertin wrote: I'm still triggering my frontend Interface for MRTG. Guess it'll take couple of more weeks to have it functional. It looks neat yet though :) Once it is finished - I'll get over to fine tune the MRTG Part, and maybe also take care of the Big Data-Files data gathering ... For that however logtail is one of the greatest inventions ... Ah- yes - the Interface can be viewed here: http://www.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=systatop=disp_indhost_id=1 It's the Index View - Click on the Images to have detailed ones. There is much to do on my Todo-List though :) But this is just a Private Hobby I'm coding on... still for php4.0.6 *g*. Cheers Joerg On Thursday 16 October 2003 22:35, Jack Coates wrote: yeah, the bash stuff is seriously vile and I'll be fixing it ASAP. I'd like to figure out and use db::tie, but failing that I'll optimize grep and awk to do one pass instead of four. The other thing is that I only care about two fields, so I've deleted the clean and processed lines. On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 12:01, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hmmm, couldn't use that one at work. The mail.info file growse about 5 GBytes/Day - so all 5 inutes parsing 4 times through that file would kill the server. I'd rather add logtail, and redefine the Options. Same for apache logs etc. :) Cheers -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] dualboot 9.2 + XP Pro on laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, a really simple question: where is there a definitive howto describing exactly how to install 9.2 on a laptop that already has XP on it, in such a way that one can boot either OS at the end of the installation? There are lots of howtos for other versions of Mandrake and other other Linuces, but they aren't consistent and they don't leave me with any confidence that I won't end up with a munged box. This laptop (an IBM T40) has NO floppy drive. I just did an installation on it, and looked long and hard at the screen that asked me where to put the bootloader -- and I didn't know how to answer the question (especially since it said that this step was usually automatic). There are no XP system CDs, just those stupid put the entire system back the way it was when you opened the box CDs, so if I screw up the installation, I can easily see myself losing everything that's currently on the box. yes; there's a backup, but it's still a major pain to re-install and rebuild everything. So I really want to avoid that and get the Mandrake installation right the first time. Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5Apm2nXrLw2KRK4EQI8iACcCLFuhTd/WnfbGBqi6uzcvrh9sekAn3Em dAe5KNV2LLjmzPKa58P/R8HA =E/Ts -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot 9.2 + XP Pro on laptop
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, a really simple question: where is there a definitive howto describing exactly how to install 9.2 on a laptop that already has XP on it, in such a way that one can boot either OS at the end of the installation? There are lots of howtos for other versions of Mandrake and other other Linuces, but they aren't consistent and they don't leave me with any confidence that I won't end up with a munged box. This laptop (an IBM T40) has NO floppy drive. I just did an installation on it, and looked long and hard at the screen that asked me where to put the bootloader -- and I didn't know how to answer the question (especially since it said that this step was usually automatic). There are no XP system CDs, just those stupid put the entire system back the way it was when you opened the box CDs, so if I screw up the installation, I can easily see myself losing everything that's currently on the box. yes; there's a backup, but it's still a major pain to re-install and rebuild everything. So I really want to avoid that and get the Mandrake installation right the first time. Doc Definitive and exactly are not likely to describe any HOWTO, especially for something as recent as 9.2, as the variations in hardware/software/user proclivities make it unlikely anything both comprehensive and generic will be wriiten for such a moving target. In fact, there are reports that some OEM installs of XP make it impossible to dual-boot linux or other OS: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=XP+oem+linux+dual-bootspell=1 Everyone is advised to backup before install and, although it usually works, there are no guarantees. If you choose to install the bootloader to your / partition or floppy or otherwise not to MBR, where the XP loader is, you might be able to make use of the following information at MUO Docs for using the XP bootloader for booting Mandrake: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/i3boot.html BTW, there used to be an option to not install the bootloader but I have not seen it for a couple of releases. I install to the / partition and, when asked where the primary bootloader is installed, I choose hda. Rolf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5Apm2nXrLw2KRK4EQI8iACcCLFuhTd/WnfbGBqi6uzcvrh9sekAn3Em dAe5KNV2LLjmzPKa58P/R8HA =E/Ts -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dualboot/Multiboot
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:51, Felix Miata wrote: ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:08, Felix Miata wrote: Yes, dual does mean 2 - 2 exactly. But, multi means more than 1. So, the two terms can easily be confused when the actual count is two. The difference is multiboot uses some type of boot manager that is capable of switching among two *or more*, while dualboot is crude, normally incapable of more than two. AFAIK, IBM first made the distinction back before Torvalds' kernel was first used for GPL operating systems, sometime around 1987 I think, certainly by 1990. Dos 6, with a boot menu, iirc That was M$ in March 1993, which has nothing to do with what I wrote. DOS 6 boot menu is about choosing different configurations for one OS on one partition. No kernel switching or choosing is involved. IBM's first public distinction dates to the April 1992 release of the IBM Boot Manager in OS/2 2.0, which provided the option to install several operating systems on several partitions and choose among them via menu on each boot. This was provided as an alternative to installing OS/2 on the same partition as DOS, the dual boot option. The conception of IBM Boot Manager apparently dates back to 1983, when IBM first planned to have DOS and Xenix coexist on its PCs. i stand corrected, and now understand better (and remember) ... thank you -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] test message
James Sparenberg wrote: I think it went dead again. Man what a week first we lose Texstar and now the list. Brother, you have not lost us. We are still here, and loving you as much today as we did yesterday ( which might not be saying to much). drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Engineer http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm Let him that would move the world, first move himself. --Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] question on VPN's
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:22, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Ok I'm planing the IT section for a new company. As such I've got a ground up ability to do it as right as I possibly can . the first time. Initial load will be about 20 people (Mixed windows and Linux to start adding other Unix as needed.) with a ton of data storage needed. (RD group) Now I'm planning on a RAID array for data storage with Samba/NFS for storage/sharing of data files. (Data Only no applications.) The questions I have are. 1. What VPN software do you recommend for a mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environment? Why Not Samba? The VPN will be for when they are at home... Across the US or International and need to use Samba/NFS to get files on our net. (I can secure the Windows boxes this way and NFS isn't so hot on security either.) 2. Looking at RaidZone Raid servers. Any info? I highly recommend promise technology Raid arrays. www.promise.com Thanks I'll compare. I have over 10TB sitting on these boxes for over a year now! 3. Anything better than VPN for Data Sharing in Windows (2000 btw maybe XP but I hope to avoid that nightmare.) Again, how about samba? 4. Would you if you could go all laptop for your developers and other Engineers. Like a Dell inspiron 8600, with docking station? Yes i would. 5. Any recommendations for encryption of a Raid Array that works again cross platform. Mmmh. 6. Know of anyone doing wireless data encryption for windows and Linux beyond WEP. 7. Anyone got a recipe for direct caffeine infusion *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Upgrade from LAN?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:39:26 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:21, Lee Wiggers wrote: Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee mount -t iso9660 -o loop myisoimage /mnt/point -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Thanks, Jack -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
Am Freitag, 17. Oktober 2003 14:38 schrieb Olaf Marzocchi: I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. You are right... I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Exactly. Could someone tell me how to build a 4th CD with RPMs not included in the first 3 ISOs but available on the FTP site? Once burned the ISOs I'd like to be able to install software without being connected to the internet. Download it , burn it on CD and add it with urpmi.addmedia -f or as nicer solution: d/l = save the rpms in directories that fit on one disc = go in that dir and run genhdlist . (The point is important). This will give you a hdlist.cz for that RPMs. If you want to download all that is available but not on the 3 cd set, one CD isn't enough (hint: contrib/plf/java/club/...). Greets Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Complete system backup
I finally got to really apply the stuff you guys taught me. :) That means that my hdd on my linux server/firewall is dying and randomly gives a Cannot find boot sector at boot. :( I mounted a winblows fat32 partition as smbf on my linux server in an attempt to backup my linux system there (only backup space at hand for the time). Unfortunatelly I stumbled upon the smbfs 2GB limit problem. I don't have enough local space to backup locally first. I tried using the split command but I am either too tired or too dumb, but it didn't do at all what expected. So now I am asking myself if I can somehow pass the 2GB smbfs proble (lots of space on the smbfs partition). Any chances to do that in an elegant way? I heard that I need to patch my kernel to support smbfs 2GB, but that would mean to recompile kernel and restart my server. Since it was a 30 minutes pain to convince it to start last time I cannot afford that (it might not start anymore). :( Searched the whole net for a solution on how to split the tar results on the fly as local space on server partitions is about as big as the smbfs limit, so I cannot archive all locally and split after that. No go. No example which suits my problem. :( Please help guys. :( Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I can confirm this kind of primitive cloning works perfectly. All you have to do during full backup is to omit special directories : - /proc - /tmp - /mnt = tar czf everything_on_hda.tar.gz --exclude /tmp --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt / If your source drive (hda ?) is *very* huge/full, you can consider spliting backup into smaller parts ( 4Go) to manage archives more easily (and allow network transfer of them from rescue mode in my particular case...) Dam On Tuesday 19 August 2003 22:43, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Wow, Can go with mindi/mondo (urpmi mind) would take care of it. Or, in my case, buy a cheapo drive $30.00 gives u 40Gb nowadays, and tar cf /dev/hdb/root.tar / for i in /usr /var /opt /home /whateverfilesystem do tar cf /mnt/hdb/$i $i done So if hda dies, all u do is replace it, and boot with install disk, rescue mode, create ur new filesystems, and restore from backup drive only the files/directory into new location. then run lilo -r /mnt/hdb/ reboot with new drive. Works everytime for me. I even clone systems this way (primitive, but works!) Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot 9.2 + XP Pro on laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Oct 2003 at 11:38, Rolf Pedersen wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, a really simple question: where is there a definitive howto describing exactly how to install 9.2 on a laptop that already has XP on it, in such a way that one can boot either OS at the end of the installation? Everyone is advised to backup before install and, although it usually works, there are no guarantees. If you choose to install the bootloader to your / partition or floppy or otherwise not to MBR, where the XP loader is, you might be able to make use of the following information at MUO Docs for using the XP bootloader for booting Mandrake: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/i3boot.html OK; thanks. Combining the info at that URL with a Knoppix disk allowed me to build a dual-boot system. For those that care, here is what I did. (Warning: it ain't pretty, and doubtless there are better/cleverer ways, but this worked). Starting position: laptop (IBM T40) with XP Pro installed. The XP is networked, but has no floppy. 1. Install Mdk 9.2. (in my case, / is on /dev/hda5). 2. Towards the end of the installation, install the bootloader to /, NOT to the MBR 3. Boot Knoppix. 4. NFS mount a remote filesystem. 5. Copy the first 512 octets of /dev/hda5 to a file in the remote filesystem (using dd). 6. Boot into XP 7. Copy the file created in step 5 to c:\linux.lnx 8. Edit c:\boot.ini so that it contains the line c:\linux.lnx=Mandrake 9.2 at the end 9. Reboot. You are now given a choice of Windows or Mandrake at boot time. Thanks again for the pointers. Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5BxGWnXrLw2KRK4EQIxTwCfSTF7XQnS+/yzUst2ezaN2FCQur0AoKFD BkR9DssUODT/vzoRJVEyrNM/ =xGxU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] can't add club urpmi media
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are the club urpmi scripts supposed to work with 9.2? I keep getting errors when I execute them: retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed; no hdlist file found for medium xxx. I tried several, and all the ones I tried behaved the same way -- some more quickly than others, but they all failed. Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5Bx3GnXrLw2KRK4EQLj/gCg1QmgWKR9RKxPIsVaUm1/MP+oIv4AoJQO Nuw7CbXVZlgU/NuSgHFlnncL =kiun -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Complete system backup
I take it you're trying to tar into a file in the smb partition? Man, I love giving this answer: then don't do that :-) cp -a /etc /mnt/winblows cp -a /var /mnt/winblows rinse and repeat until you've got all the goodies, then rebuild your other box. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 14:05, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: I finally got to really apply the stuff you guys taught me. :) That means that my hdd on my linux server/firewall is dying and randomly gives a Cannot find boot sector at boot. :( I mounted a winblows fat32 partition as smbf on my linux server in an attempt to backup my linux system there (only backup space at hand for the time). Unfortunatelly I stumbled upon the smbfs 2GB limit problem. I don't have enough local space to backup locally first. I tried using the split command but I am either too tired or too dumb, but it didn't do at all what expected. So now I am asking myself if I can somehow pass the 2GB smbfs proble (lots of space on the smbfs partition). Any chances to do that in an elegant way? I heard that I need to patch my kernel to support smbfs 2GB, but that would mean to recompile kernel and restart my server. Since it was a 30 minutes pain to convince it to start last time I cannot afford that (it might not start anymore). :( Searched the whole net for a solution on how to split the tar results on the fly as local space on server partitions is about as big as the smbfs limit, so I cannot archive all locally and split after that. No go. No example which suits my problem. :( Please help guys. :( Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I can confirm this kind of primitive cloning works perfectly. All you have to do during full backup is to omit special directories : - /proc - /tmp - /mnt = tar czf everything_on_hda.tar.gz --exclude /tmp --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt / If your source drive (hda ?) is *very* huge/full, you can consider spliting backup into smaller parts ( 4Go) to manage archives more easily (and allow network transfer of them from rescue mode in my particular case...) Dam On Tuesday 19 August 2003 22:43, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Wow, Can go with mindi/mondo (urpmi mind) would take care of it. Or, in my case, buy a cheapo drive $30.00 gives u 40Gb nowadays, and tar cf /dev/hdb/root.tar / for i in /usr /var /opt /home /whateverfilesystem do tar cf /mnt/hdb/$i $i done So if hda dies, all u do is replace it, and boot with install disk, rescue mode, create ur new filesystems, and restore from backup drive only the files/directory into new location. then run lilo -r /mnt/hdb/ reboot with new drive. Works everytime for me. I even clone systems this way (primitive, but works!) Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
probably slammed mirrors -- try adding --wget to your command line. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 15:48, D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are the club urpmi scripts supposed to work with 9.2? I keep getting errors when I execute them: retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed; no hdlist file found for medium xxx. I tried several, and all the ones I tried behaved the same way -- some more quickly than others, but they all failed. Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5Bx3GnXrLw2KRK4EQLj/gCg1QmgWKR9RKxPIsVaUm1/MP+oIv4AoJQO Nuw7CbXVZlgU/NuSgHFlnncL =kiun -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] dualboot and need to reinstall windows
I have a dualboot setup, and had to replace my video card. No problems in ML. But W2K won't recognize the new card and the video is corrupted. So I need to reinstall W2K. I think this will this screw up the bootsector so that I can't boot into Linux. And if so, how do I correct it? Phil -- Using Mandrake Linux 9.1 www.mandrakesoft.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Complete system backup
hehe. :) That crossed my mind too, but it keeps complaining about the rights on the files. Isn't it bad if cause of the copy the file rights are lost? Also how about the (symbolic)links? Afaik the fat32 doesn't support links the way linux has them... Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I take it you're trying to tar into a file in the smb partition? Man, I love giving this answer: then don't do that :-) cp -a /etc /mnt/winblows cp -a /var /mnt/winblows rinse and repeat until you've got all the goodies, then rebuild your other box. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 14:05, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: I finally got to really apply the stuff you guys taught me. :) That means that my hdd on my linux server/firewall is dying and randomly gives a Cannot find boot sector at boot. :( I mounted a winblows fat32 partition as smbf on my linux server in an attempt to backup my linux system there (only backup space at hand for the time). Unfortunatelly I stumbled upon the smbfs 2GB limit problem. I don't have enough local space to backup locally first. I tried using the split command but I am either too tired or too dumb, but it didn't do at all what expected. So now I am asking myself if I can somehow pass the 2GB smbfs proble (lots of space on the smbfs partition). Any chances to do that in an elegant way? I heard that I need to patch my kernel to support smbfs 2GB, but that would mean to recompile kernel and restart my server. Since it was a 30 minutes pain to convince it to start last time I cannot afford that (it might not start anymore). :( Searched the whole net for a solution on how to split the tar results on the fly as local space on server partitions is about as big as the smbfs limit, so I cannot archive all locally and split after that. No go. No example which suits my problem. :( Please help guys. :( Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I can confirm this kind of primitive cloning works perfectly. All you have to do during full backup is to omit special directories : - /proc - /tmp - /mnt = tar czf everything_on_hda.tar.gz --exclude /tmp --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt / If your source drive (hda ?) is *very* huge/full, you can consider spliting backup into smaller parts ( 4Go) to manage archives more easily (and allow network transfer of them from rescue mode in my particular case...) Dam On Tuesday 19 August 2003 22:43, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Wow, Can go with mindi/mondo (urpmi mind) would take care of it. Or, in my case, buy a cheapo drive $30.00 gives u 40Gb nowadays, and tar cf /dev/hdb/root.tar / for i in /usr /var /opt /home /whateverfilesystem do tar cf /mnt/hdb/$i $i done So if hda dies, all u do is replace it, and boot with install disk, rescue mode, create ur new filesystems, and restore from backup drive only the files/directory into new location. then run lilo -r /mnt/hdb/ reboot with new drive. Works everytime for me. I even clone systems this way (primitive, but works!) Thanks -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:52, Jack Coates wrote: probably slammed mirrors -- try adding --wget to your command line. Nope. No change. retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium xxx examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.xxx.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium xxx unable to update medium xxx (I just tried it on both the California mirrors with the same result.) Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5B68GnXrLw2KRK4EQJeZgCglfYOOwlMX97I4DmWm920fvViFYMAoIM3 UQYJdji5VnK0J6zHpfExyJkw =+OKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot and need to reinstall windows
Phil G. wrote: I have a dualboot setup, and had to replace my video card. No problems in ML. But W2K won't recognize the new card and the video is corrupted. So I need to reinstall W2K. I think this will this screw up the bootsector so that I can't boot into Linux. And if so, how do I correct it? Phil If you put w2k back into the same partition, your Mandrake bootloader menu, /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf, will already have the proper information to boot windows or Mandrake. However, installing windows installs the windows bootloader to the MBR. You will just have to reinstall Mandrake's bootloader. One way to do this is boot CD1, press F1 when the screen say you can, boot with rescue, and you will have a choice to reinstall the bootloader. Otherwise, if you boot a generic rescue disk, mount your linux install, chroot to that mount point, and run /sbin/lilo for lilo or sh /boot/grub/install.sh for grub, that will reinstall the Mandrake bootloader to the MBR. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Complete system backup
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:22, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: hehe. :) That crossed my mind too, but it keeps complaining about the rights on the files. Isn't it bad if cause of the copy the file rights are lost? yeah, smb just doesn't do permissions in The Unix Way(TM). So it's bad if you want to just copy everything back and have it work, but it's probably going to be fine if you want to build a new system and copy the important /etc files, /home, and /usr/local back in. Also how about the (symbolic)links? Afaik the fat32 doesn't support links the way linux has them... It'll make two copies of the whole file. Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I take it you're trying to tar into a file in the smb partition? Man, I love giving this answer: then don't do that :-) cp -a /etc /mnt/winblows cp -a /var /mnt/winblows rinse and repeat until you've got all the goodies, then rebuild your other box. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 14:05, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: I finally got to really apply the stuff you guys taught me. :) That means that my hdd on my linux server/firewall is dying and randomly gives a Cannot find boot sector at boot. :( I mounted a winblows fat32 partition as smbf on my linux server in an attempt to backup my linux system there (only backup space at hand for the time). Unfortunatelly I stumbled upon the smbfs 2GB limit problem. I don't have enough local space to backup locally first. I tried using the split command but I am either too tired or too dumb, but it didn't do at all what expected. So now I am asking myself if I can somehow pass the 2GB smbfs proble (lots of space on the smbfs partition). Any chances to do that in an elegant way? I heard that I need to patch my kernel to support smbfs 2GB, but that would mean to recompile kernel and restart my server. Since it was a 30 minutes pain to convince it to start last time I cannot afford that (it might not start anymore). :( Searched the whole net for a solution on how to split the tar results on the fly as local space on server partitions is about as big as the smbfs limit, so I cannot archive all locally and split after that. No go. No example which suits my problem. :( Please help guys. :( Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Complete system backup I can confirm this kind of primitive cloning works perfectly. All you have to do during full backup is to omit special directories : - /proc - /tmp - /mnt = tar czf everything_on_hda.tar.gz --exclude /tmp --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt / If your source drive (hda ?) is *very* huge/full, you can consider spliting backup into smaller parts ( 4Go) to manage archives more easily (and allow network transfer of them from rescue mode in my particular case...) Dam On Tuesday 19 August 2003 22:43, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Wow, Can go with mindi/mondo (urpmi mind) would take care of it. Or, in my case, buy a cheapo drive $30.00 gives u 40Gb nowadays, and tar cf /dev/hdb/root.tar / for i in /usr /var /opt /home /whateverfilesystem do tar cf /mnt/hdb/$i $i done So if hda dies, all u do is replace it, and boot with install disk, rescue mode, create ur new filesystems, and restore from backup drive only the files/directory into new location. then run lilo -r /mnt/hdb/ reboot with new drive. Works everytime for me. I even clone systems this way (primitive, but works!) Thanks -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
You're using plf.zarb.org's script, right? I just tried and had trouble, so I switched to MandrakeClub's script and it worked. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:27, D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:52, Jack Coates wrote: probably slammed mirrors -- try adding --wget to your command line. Nope. No change. retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium xxx examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.xxx.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium xxx unable to update medium xxx (I just tried it on both the California mirrors with the same result.) Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5B68GnXrLw2KRK4EQJeZgCglfYOOwlMX97I4DmWm920fvViFYMAoIM3 UQYJdji5VnK0J6zHpfExyJkw =+OKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] question on VPN's
Linksys has a very nice VPN box supporting a bunch of vpn connections at the same time. Your winblows users can use there vpn client software that comes with the OS. For Linux there are several client side apps like poptop pptp. As far as encryption winblows by default logs in using encryption and samba should deal with it if configured properly. On Star Date Friday 17 October 2003 01:02 pm, James Sparenberg sent this sub-space message. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:22, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Ok I'm planing the IT section for a new company. As such I've got a ground up ability to do it as right as I possibly can . the first time. Initial load will be about 20 people (Mixed windows and Linux to start adding other Unix as needed.) with a ton of data storage needed. (RD group) Now I'm planning on a RAID array for data storage with Samba/NFS for storage/sharing of data files. (Data Only no applications.) The questions I have are. 1. What VPN software do you recommend for a mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environment? Why Not Samba? The VPN will be for when they are at home... Across the US or International and need to use Samba/NFS to get files on our net. (I can secure the Windows boxes this way and NFS isn't so hot on security either.) 2. Looking at RaidZone Raid servers. Any info? I highly recommend promise technology Raid arrays. www.promise.com Thanks I'll compare. I have over 10TB sitting on these boxes for over a year now! 3. Anything better than VPN for Data Sharing in Windows (2000 btw maybe XP but I hope to avoid that nightmare.) Again, how about samba? 4. Would you if you could go all laptop for your developers and other Engineers. Like a Dell inspiron 8600, with docking station? Yes i would. 5. Any recommendations for encryption of a Raid Array that works again cross platform. Mmmh. 6. Know of anyone doing wireless data encryption for windows and Linux beyond WEP. 7. Anyone got a recipe for direct caffeine infusion *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot and need to reinstall windows
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:12:05 -0700, Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil G. wrote: I have a dualboot setup, and had to replace my video card. No problems in ML. But W2K won't recognize the new card and the video is corrupted. So I need to reinstall W2K. I think this will this screw up the bootsector so that I can't boot into Linux. And if so, how do I correct it? Phil If you put w2k back into the same partition, your Mandrake bootloader menu, /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf, will already have the proper information to boot windows or Mandrake. However, installing windows installs the windows bootloader to the MBR. You will just have to reinstall Mandrake's bootloader. One way to do this is boot CD1, press F1 when the screen say you can, boot with rescue, and you will have a choice to reinstall the bootloader. Otherwise, if you boot a generic rescue disk, mount your linux install, chroot to that mount point, and run /sbin/lilo for lilo or sh /boot/grub/install.sh for grub, that will reinstall the Mandrake bootloader to the MBR. Rolf Thanks, Rolf! -- Using Mandrake Linux 9.1 www.mandrakesoft.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] network cards running at 10mb/s instead of 100 - why?
Hello, Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why my network is running at 1/10 the speed it should be. The network cards on my firewall, which is running MNF, are all running at 10mb/s. At least two should be running at 100. I can see they are running slow by running this, for instance: # mii-tool eth0 eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link whereas, it should be like this, right - # mii-tool eth0 eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok (which is what I do get on my other PCs). There is nothing special in the modules.conf, as far as I can tell - alias tap0 ethertap options tap0 -o tap0 unit=0 alias eth0 8139too alias eth1 8139too alias eth2 dmfe I'm a bit confused because the system messages show this, which indicates the cards should be running at 100mb/s: Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.24 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:03.0 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xc6849000, 00:05:1c:98:3c:77, IRQ 11 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:06.0 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth1: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xc684b000, 00:00:21:04:60:8c, IRQ 5 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: dmfe: Davicom DM9xxx net driver, version 1.36.4 (2002-01-17) Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.0 Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth2: Davicom DM9102 at pci00:04.0, 00:08:a1:2c:17:57, irq 9. Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 45e1. Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth1: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 45e1. The hardware on the firewall is this - 00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1531 [Aladdin IV] (rev b3) 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV] (rev b4) 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. Ethernet 100/10 MBit (rev 40) 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE/DX or /GX (rev 01) 00:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) 00:0b.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev 20) It's a Pentium 233. Running this command: # mii-tool eth0 -F 100baseTx-FD has no effect. Any clues as to what I should do next? Thanks! Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Upgrade from LAN?
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 07:27, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:39:26 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:21, Lee Wiggers wrote: Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee mount -t iso9660 -o loop myisoimage /mnt/point -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Thanks, Jack To make the 3 cd's available for ftp install without braking the iso's open and waisting room I did the following. The first cd loops fine but you carnt loop the 2nd cd's RPMS2 into the fist. To get around this I did. Mkdir /files/mdk-d1, /files/mdk-d2, /files/mdk-d3 Mkdir /files/mandrake91 copy root files of cd1 to mandrake91 ## Mount and link Mandrake 91 iso's to mandrake91 # mount /files/mandrake-91-iso/mandrake-91-disk1.iso -o loop /files/mdk91-d1 mount /files/mandrake-91-iso/mandrake-91-disk2.iso -o loop /files/mdk91-d2 mount /files/mandrake-91-iso/mandrake-91-disk3.iso -o loop /files/mdk91-d3 ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/doc/ /files/mandrake91/doc ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/dosutils/ /files/mandrake91/dosutils ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/images/ /files/mandrake91/images ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/isolinux/ /files/mandrake91/isolinux ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/misc/ /files/mandrake91/misc ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/tutorial/ /files/mandrake91/tutorial ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/Mandrake/base/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/base ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/Mandrake/mdkinst/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/mdkinst ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/Mandrake/share/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/share ln -s /files/mdk91-d1/Mandrake/RPMS/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/RPMS ln -s /files/mdk91-d2/Mandrake/RPMS2/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/RPMS2 ln -s /files/mdk91-d3/Mandrake/RPMS3/ /files/mandrake91/Mandrake/RPMS3 Add a user ftpdl passwd whatever At the bottom of proftpd.conf add DefaultRoot /files/mandrake91 ftpdl Restart proftpd. Now you can do a ftp install as user ftpdl and not worry about changing cd's. For multiple installs add more users to proftpd. Its a quiet saturday morning down under :) Gary. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot and need to reinstall windows
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:06 am, many eyes noted that Phil G. wrote: I have a dualboot setup, and had to replace my video card. No problems in ML. But W2K won't recognize the new card and the video is corrupted. So I need to reinstall W2K. I think this will this screw up the bootsector so that I can't boot into Linux. And if so, how do I correct it? Phil No problems I think. If I recall from the time I used windows 2000 or XP won't overwrite the MBR, but if it does let it boot from floppy run lilo or grub once in Mandrake and all will come together as it should. Charlie -- Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure. Helen Keller This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for professional use ? Eric even if it was... it wouldn't yield sufficient room. Now if Emacs was dropped or perhaps all of the kde eye candy etc.. To be honest. What they have done fits perfectly in with the way they are positioning themselves in the market. They are THE desktop distro. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric Matter of fact ... in the download version, I believe you are right. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# urpmq kernel-headers glibc-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# rpm -qf /usr/include/linux glibc-devel-2.3.2-15mdk curiouser and curiouser... I can't find a kernel-headers package either, but I know that my kernel-source wasn't installed the last time I reconfigured vmware. Kernel headers are supplied by gcc. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:34, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# urpmq kernel-headers glibc-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdocs]# rpm -qf /usr/include/linux glibc-devel-2.3.2-15mdk curiouser and curiouser... I can't find a kernel-headers package either, but I know that my kernel-source wasn't installed the last time I reconfigured vmware. ahh, cause the headers are included with glibc, so they match the compiler??? err yeah.. glibc I always say one when I mean the other. Neat part is. Unless you are compiling a kernel or some kernel (but not all) kernel additons (like pcmcia) you don't need the full source. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] network cards running at 10mb/s instead of 100 - why?
On Friday 17 October 2003 08:31 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: # mii-tool eth0 -F 100baseTx-FD has no effect. Any clues as to what I should do next? IIRC, most cable and dsl modems run 10Mb/s half duplex. is eth0 the public interface? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for professional use ? Eric It is glibc supplies headers the rest is in kernel source. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] test message
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:35, J.C. Woods wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: I think it went dead again. Man what a week first we lose Texstar and now the list. Brother, you have not lost us. We are still here, and loving you as much today as we did yesterday ( which might not be saying to much). drjung Went 6 hours without a message then got about 100 dumped on me. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:54, Brett W Tippet wrote: Thanks for the reply. Yeh ... done that ... It's going into a cisco catalyst 2900XL and I've tried a few patch cables which work straight away when plugged into another PC .. the machine that isn't working is lighting up on the switch. I have 3 LAN cards with the same chipset ... all do the same thing ... it's like some odd routing restriction is in place? .. no firewall is enabled or anything. Brett. - Original Message - From: Kwan Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [expert] ip addressing on lan When I apply this IP using the wizard on install it all takes and seems to be there .. If I try and ping anything on the LAN I get destination unreachable, and if I ping the unit from another machine on the LAN it times out. But from the 9.1 machine, I can ping 192.168.0.200 (it's NIC ip) .. the routing table sees the ip, but wont look at the gateway or LAN. . Sounds suspiciously like a bad cable/connection. Can you try switching the cable to a known-good and plugging into a know-good port on the hub or switch? RedHat does this to me a lot. Seems that a copy of the the ifcfg-eth0 file gets copied over into /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles or devices. Then the box gets confused trying to read both of them and the route never gets read right. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.1 to MDK9.2 Update Issues - Hope that this is not a Final ISO!
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:34, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 16 2003 09:44 pm, Albert Whale wrote: I noticed that my Terminals all disappeared from the KDE Environment after the update. Is this an expected Feature? Yes. KDE packages have been split up to make them more manageable. You just need to 'urpmi kdebase-konsole' And before anyone says no one else does that. Debian SuSE and others do ... MDK is just catching up (Remember the RH solution was to just gut KDE.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot 9.2 + XP Pro on laptop
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:45 am, many eyes noted that D. R. Evans wrote: OK; thanks. Combining the info at that URL with a Knoppix disk allowed me to build a dual-boot system. For those that care, here is what I did. (Warning: it ain't pretty, and doubtless there are better/cleverer ways, but this worked). Starting position: laptop (IBM T40) with XP Pro installed. The XP is networked, but has no floppy. 1. Install Mdk 9.2. (in my case, / is on /dev/hda5). 2. Towards the end of the installation, install the bootloader to /, NOT to the MBR 3. Boot Knoppix. 4. NFS mount a remote filesystem. 5. Copy the first 512 octets of /dev/hda5 to a file in the remote filesystem (using dd). 6. Boot into XP 7. Copy the file created in step 5 to c:\linux.lnx 8. Edit c:\boot.ini so that it contains the line c:\linux.lnx=Mandrake 9.2 at the end 9. Reboot. You are now given a choice of Windows or Mandrake at boot time. Thanks again for the pointers. Doc Thanks for that info Doc. Charlie -- Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure. Helen Keller This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
On Friday 17 October 2003 10:44 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for professional use ? Eric even if it was... it wouldn't yield sufficient room. Now if Emacs was dropped or perhaps all of the kde eye candy etc.. To be honest. What they have done fits perfectly in with the way they are positioning themselves in the market. They are THE desktop distro. Remember all the flack they took for leaving kdeartwork out of 9.1. Someone's always bitching. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 03:01, Franki wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:49, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:24, Jack Coates wrote: you make the fatal assumption that IE supports the standard. It doesn't. Standard code works on IE if it's really really simple, but frequently breaks in ugly ways. Transparent PNGs. PNGs at all (color is off). Advanced CSS features, like flow. Many advanced Javascript form functions. Especially, on the CSS support. We have Java based (JSP) system we developed to create and issue insurance certificates for commercial insurance. The completed certificate is displayed in two frames. A small horizontal frame, containing nothing more that a few navigation buttons and a background, over the main window in which the completed certificate is rendered in the Adobe Acrobat reader plug-in. Recently, we started getting complaints from our users that the system was very slow and that it would take a minute or more for a certificate to be displayed. During troubleshooting we discovered that it could take up to 5 minutes to display the certificate from the time the user clicked the submit button if they used IE. However, if they used Netscape 4.78, or later, the certificate would be displayed in less than a second. In most cases it was displayed, before the user could even move their hand. Since we make this web based application available to our customers, it was imperative that we find the cause and resolve it. After several days of troubleshooting and debugging our head Java programmer found the problem. A contract programmer, who is no longer employed, had coded a 6 line Cascading Style Sheet for the top frame. We removed the CSS and recoded to the page. Now it displays in less than a second using IE as well as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera. et all.. Chuck, I think you've stated better than anyone I've ever heard why it's important to view a site in 1. Every browser you can find. 2. On every box within reach EXCEPT the developers box. 3. Oer a 56k modem with a crap connection. This last one doesn't apply as much if you live outside the US and the 3rd world. James Get real James, I live in Australia, and broadband over here either isn't available in most areas, or is to expensive.. I have ADSL, but it costs me 85 a month and has only 256/64 and to get a static IP address required that they limit my bandwidth to 1 gig a month... Now tell me again why only US should test with Dialup? in Australia Dialup still outnumbers broadband by a massive martgin. Trust me, from the people I know over there, those that do have broadband, have MUCH better broadband then those of us in Australia. I'm stating not that only the US should test with a modem, but rather stating that the sorry 19% of US internet users who have access to broadband (This means home, work or school) is crap compared with even our immediate neighbors. (I've heard Canada is up to about 70 or 80% for example and Mexico is at about 35% or better.) The jibe is against the policies here. Not stating that only the US is stuck on Modems, or should test with them. It was a political statement aimed at my own gov (FCC) not what you took it to be. James rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Automount missing
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 03:25, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: Hello James; indeed it's Supermount that I meant, sorry about that. I am now using 2.6.0test7-bk8. I tried the supermount enable command but it did not seem to do anything. Thanks! -turgut Ah, I see. Your right it won't, I don't think supermount has been ported to 2.6 yet. James On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:54, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: Hi there. After upgrading my Mandrake's kernel, I realised that I no longer had automount (no big deal actually; I wrote a two-liner to mount the CD-ROM), but it would be nice to have it back. Any ideas on how to re-install Automount into the kernel? Thanks! -turgut If by automount you mean supermount (They are different is why I'm asking) could you let us know 2 things what the rpm name is of the new kernel you have and what version you are on. Also does supermount /mnt/cdrom enable get it back for you? James - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 05:46, Kwan Lowe wrote: A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut I was thinking about this recently after doing some from-source installations of the 1.x Apache software. It was actually better for me that Mandrake chose to use their own hierarchy because otherwise my install would have been more difficult. Since software creators have some creative and unusual choices for their installation directories, it seems better for my sanity that they enforce their directory structure. Is it LSB compliant? Dunno, but it seems close. Actually I've often found it to be a lot more compliant (and btw it does pass the test if you install the LSB packages) than some of the stuff coming from the developers. QMail is a great example, Gee lets put all of our executables in /var and the forbid the user to change it. (read the license.) This is why the --prefix= switch is present when you do config. --prefix=/usr works real well at keeping you from having 2 versions. or even more important sometimes. Allows you to have 2 versions so you can test before taking it live. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Upgrade from LAN?
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:39, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:21, Lee Wiggers wrote: Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee mount -t iso9660 -o loop myisoimage /mnt/point or mount the cd copy *.rpm into a dir that an ftp user has access to then run genhdlist against this directory. Now do urpmi.addmedia localmirror ftp://[user]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/directory with hdlist.cz now the box should be able to use your local mirror. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] recovery from rpm horkage
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:44, Jack Coates wrote: a few days ago I screwed up one of my boxes by giving it some rpm commands while urpmi was running (combination of virtual desktops, urpmi database locking issue, and PEBCAK). I've done rpm --rebuilddb a couple of times so it's now consistent again; unfortunately, it's consistent in the belief that it hasn't got any RPMs installed :-) I figure this will gradually correct itself with urpmi.update --auto-select as the various packages get updated, but that's kind of lame and a waste of mirror bandwidth; any better ideas for fixing it? thanks, either rpm --initdb will work or this link http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb For a total ooops it's gone rebuild. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] VMWare and Win4Lin included in 9.2
Does anyone have any info on the VMWare and Win4Lin that is included with the boxed sets of 9.2? Specifically, are they functional demos, full function apps, etc.? Also, what about the licensing? Is it just the app that is included and a $399 license still needs to be purchased (at least for VMWare)? Just curious. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
