[expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Any suggestions? Or did I miss a big one again? :) Thanks! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Any suggestions? Or did I miss a big one again? :) Thanks! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:51:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Any suggestions? Or did I miss a big one again? :) Thanks! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. But thank you for being yet another, self appointed list moderator. It's good to know there are so many out there willing to interject their personal opinion as if it were law. ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Maybe I'll return to MDL when: Someone fires all the self appointed list moderators. I asked a simple question, and got a lecture. I'm tired of this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
Ric Tibbetts wrote: I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. But thank you for being yet another, self appointed list moderator. It's good to know there are so many out there willing to interject their personal opinion as if it were law. ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Maybe I'll return to MDL when: Someone fires all the self appointed list moderators. I asked a simple question, and got a lecture. I'm tired of this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Sorry, you misunderstood me. I am not english native speaker, I have a lot of work, and I thought this would help because I had the answer. I know perfectly that RC2 is bugged at that level, since I participate to the debugging phase, and that there have been a lot of updates for the network since RC2. Do not forget this is a developer version. So what do you want me to answer ??? I did not make you any criticism about the bug report, I just remembered that there is another list for debugging cooker... I did not want to sound harsh, but I gave a simple and quick answer, and finally I am criticized. Very rude for someone who just try to help, no ? :( Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thursday 13 March 2003 12:06 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Update dhcp-client from the cooker and it should fix it (you'll also need dhcp-common). -- Paul pgp0.pgp Description: signature Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
Thursday, March 13, 2003, 1:57:49 PM, you wrote: RT On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:51:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. RT I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the RT question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on RT this list. RT But thank you for being yet another, self appointed list moderator. It's RT good to know there are so many out there willing to interject their RT personal opinion as if it were law. RT ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm RT just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. RT Maybe I'll return to MDL when: RT Someone fires all the self appointed list moderators. I asked a simple RT question, and got a lecture. RT I'm tired of this. Ric, Take a breath. Perhaps Eric is out of place with his comments, perhaps not, but going on about a freaking boycott and then blaming a nation along with it is just plain silly. And by the way, Eric's address is *.uk. -- Matt Cahill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
Ric, I'm not sure why this upset you, but I don't think anyone was trying to moderate your question. I'm also posting this, not so much as a reply to your message but for others on the list who may not understand why this keeps coming up. Simply put, though, the proper place for beta questions is the cooker list or bugzilla. That is not to keep things from being posted here on expert (or even newbie). It's to make sure that the developers see it on cooker. Since cooker, expert and newbie are all high volume lists, posting bugs/questions about the beta versions on cooker ensures that they are seen by the proper people. I am not a developer (nor a list moderator), but I know that both expert and newbie lists generate around 200-300 daily messages. It would be either a) quite easy to miss a bug report or b) very time consuming for a developer to search every message. Hopefully, you'll reconsider your departure from MDL. At least Mandrake gives you access to the betas and the developers. Joeb ---Original Message--- From: Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/13/03 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:51:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Any suggestions? Or did I miss a big one again? :) Thanks! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to a target=_blank href=http://www.mandrakestore.com;http://www.mandrakestore.com/a Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. But thank you for being yet another, self appointed list moderator. It's good to know there are so many out there willing to interject their personal opinion as if it were law. ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Maybe I'll return to MDL when: Someone fires all the self appointed list moderators. I asked a simple question, and got a lecture. I'm tired of this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:08:37PM -0600, Paul Cox wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2003 12:06 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Update dhcp-client from the cooker and it should fix it (you'll also need dhcp-common). Thank you. I'll give that a shot. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:10:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. But thank you for being yet another, self appointed list moderator. It's good to know there are so many out there willing to interject their personal opinion as if it were law. ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Maybe I'll return to MDL when: Someone fires all the self appointed list moderators. I asked a simple question, and got a lecture. I'm tired of this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Sorry, you misunderstood me. I am not english native speaker, I have a lot of work, and I thought this would help because I had the answer. I know perfectly that RC2 is bugged at that level, since I participate to the debugging phase, and that there have been a lot of updates for the network since RC2. Do not forget this is a developer version. So what do you want me to answer ??? I did not make you any criticism about the bug report, I just remembered that there is another list for debugging cooker... I did not want to sound harsh, but I gave a simple and quick answer, and finally I am criticized. Very rude for someone who just try to help, no ? :( Eric Eric My appoligies. I did indeed mis-understand the tenor of your reply. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
Ric Tibbetts wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:08:37PM -0600, Paul Cox wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2003 12:06 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I installed 9.1rc2 last night, and it has an annoying problem. It won't let me set the hostname. It defaults it to some, very long, strange thing. In the past, I've always gotten round this, by forcing the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network. But that trick isn't working in 9.1rc2. The workstation is running undder DHCP, and I suspect that's where the name is coming from. But I've always been able to change it before. Update dhcp-client from the cooker and it should fix it (you'll also need dhcp-common). Thank you. I'll give that a shot. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ok, apologies accepted, let's cool it down now :) Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 6:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:51:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Ric, I don't know what problems you had with 9.0, but you must remember that 9.1 is still in beta. rc (release candidate) means it is getting nearer, but it will still have major bugs. It's there for the experienced to try to find them before it is too late to iron them out. That said, it is unfair to bad-mouth a distro when looking at its cooker versions. If you return to 9.0 we may be able to help with your problems. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thursday March 13 2003 12:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. Understandable. The advice to post to cooker or file a bug report was misplaced anyhow as this problem has endless duplicate bug reports already filed. The assertion to update to current cooker is valid tho. This and other network and DHCP related stuff has already been fixed. IME, bugs reports on RC2, or any other beta ios's are usually reported and fixed within a few days, so bug reporting them at this late date is invalid. A search of the cooker archive http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/ would've revealed this, On the bright side, if you update to current cooker this weekend, you'll have 9.1 final ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:32:09PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 6:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:51:08PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: ya know what? I've had so many problems with MDL since 9.0, that I'm just going to take it off, and re-install RedHat. It runs. Ric, I don't know what problems you had with 9.0, but you must remember that 9.1 is still in beta. rc (release candidate) means it is getting nearer, but it will still have major bugs. It's there for the experienced to try to find them before it is too late to iron them out. That said, it is unfair to bad-mouth a distro when looking at its cooker versions. If you return to 9.0 we may be able to help with your problems. Anne; Hi, good to hear from you. I've always liked your answers, you do a great job of being very diplomatic. Thank you. - Personally, I'm on one of my tirades today. But you've seen them from me before if you've been around this list any length of time. - I really wasn't bad-mouthing the distro. And I understand that rc(n) is beta, and is bound to have problems. Which is why my original post was a simple question, to see if I was being brain damaged, and missed a previously reported problem, or if it was a new bug that I would need to report. I was then told not to report it here, to take it to the cooker list, etc. My critisizm was not for the distro. If I didn't like MDL, I wouldn't bother with it. It was for the (seemingly) self appointed list moderators that continually feel it their duty to play cop on this list. However. That turned out to be a misunderstanding, and I've made my appology to the individual involved. FWIW: I have 9.1rc2 installed, and with the exception of the hostname issue, am happy with it. This is the first version of 9.1 that actually installed on my tired old PC (can't afford any fancy new computers..). So far, I'm quite happy with it. It even correctly detected my printer, and set it up at install time (a detail that another well known distro seems to have overlooked). Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:59:03PM -0600, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday March 13 2003 12:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Do not report RC2 here, but on cooker list (or bugzilla). DHCP has been debugged since RC2, update to latest cooker. I didn't know if it was a bug, or a feature. Which is why I asked the question, and not filed a bug report. This is not at all uncommon on this list. Understandable. The advice to post to cooker or file a bug report was misplaced anyhow as this problem has endless duplicate bug reports already filed. The assertion to update to current cooker is valid tho. This and other network and DHCP related stuff has already been fixed. IME, bugs reports on RC2, or any other beta ios's are usually reported and fixed within a few days, so bug reporting them at this late date is invalid. A search of the cooker archive http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/ would've revealed this, On the bright side, if you update to current cooker this weekend, you'll have 9.1 final ;) Thanks Tom. I'll take a look at it tonight. Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 8:08 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:32:09PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 6:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: FWIW: I have 9.1rc2 installed, and with the exception of the hostname issue, am happy with it. This is the first version of 9.1 that actually installed on my tired old PC (can't afford any fancy new computers..). So far, I'm quite happy with it. It even correctly detected my printer, and set it up at install time (a detail that another well known distro seems to have overlooked). That's good to hear. Trouble is, you know, that at times like this feelings can be tender, wherever you live. Leave politics alone for the list. Your experience with this release is encouraging. After watching all the struggles I get nervous about moving on and up. It was the same with 9.0 - but when I did it, it went flawlessly. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1rc2 Hostname problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:25:02PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 8:08 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:32:09PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 6:57 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: FWIW: I have 9.1rc2 installed, and with the exception of the hostname issue, am happy with it. This is the first version of 9.1 that actually installed on my tired old PC (can't afford any fancy new computers..). So far, I'm quite happy with it. It even correctly detected my printer, and set it up at install time (a detail that another well known distro seems to have overlooked). That's good to hear. Trouble is, you know, that at times like this feelings can be tender, wherever you live. Leave politics alone for the list. Your experience with this release is encouraging. After watching all the struggles I get nervous about moving on and up. It was the same with 9.0 - but when I did it, it went flawlessly. So far, IMHO, you would do well to be nervous about 9.1, it's been more problemmatic than most previous MDL releases. So far, rc2 is the first to even install run on my hardware. I still confine use of betas to my non-critical systems. I learned that lesson many years ago. But 9.1 is getting there. I need to beat it up some more though. It was late last night when I finally got it loaded, and I got hung up on the hostname issue (thank you to all who pointed out the fix for that). I'm looking forward to working with it tonight. -- Ric Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
