Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:20, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:58:36 -0700: Wobo, If you do this successfully care to put in the twiki how you did it? James Will do but maybe not before end of month. Too busy now with 9.2 manuals on that very machine. wobo No problem. This might be something worth putting into one of those manuals as well. Just a thought. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed. Has been running just fine for a long time now. No recent changes apart from security updates and none of those for a week or more. Everything ground to a halt. Managed to kill X after a long wait for a response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10 minutes later. Had to reset at that point. Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. Do they mean anything to anyone? TIA Brian Oct 6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) Oct 6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000 present Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err = -14 Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 00:27, Brian Parish wrote: This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed. Has been running just fine for a long time now. No recent changes apart from security updates and none of those for a week or more. Everything ground to a halt. Managed to kill X after a long wait for a response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10 minutes later. Had to reset at that point. Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. Do they mean anything to anyone? TIA Brian Oct 6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) Oct 6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000 present Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err = -14 Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Brian, A little googling around and I found that it is memory related. In that either the box is running out of memory and can't swap so the VM is trying to kill off processes to stay alive or, you have a memory stick going bad. Run memtest86 or a similar memory testing program overnight if you can. It boots on it's own from a floppy or you can do a urpmi memtest86 and it will give you another boot option in lilo (grub not sure) and you boot to that. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) El lun, 06-10-2003 a las 10:30, James Sparenberg escribió: On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 00:27, Brian Parish wrote: This is a 9.1 machine with all updates installed. Has been running just fine for a long time now. No recent changes apart from security updates and none of those for a week or more. Everything ground to a halt. Managed to kill X after a long wait for a response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Seemed OK, but then stopped again 10 minutes later. Had to reset at that point. Here are the messages from the system log that seem perhaps relevant. Do they mean anything to anyone? TIA Brian Oct 6 16:02:28 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) Oct 6 16:02:56 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: mkia_add_page_ref: couldn't make b1f31000 present Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: Merge: _M_map_winpg: mapping of a14b6000 to b1f31000 failed, prot = 6, err = -14 Oct 6 16:03:01 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Oct 6 16:03:27 daw kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Brian, A little googling around and I found that it is memory related. In that either the box is running out of memory and can't swap so the VM is trying to kill off processes to stay alive or, you have a memory stick going bad. Run memtest86 or a similar memory testing program overnight if you can. It boots on it's own from a floppy or you can do a urpmi memtest86 and it will give you another boot option in lilo (grub not sure) and you boot to that. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200: Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to 1GByte! If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices I received this year. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
I agree it really was great info. -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung? diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200: Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to 1GByte! If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices I received this year. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 06 Lokakuu 2003 20:35): diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200: Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to 1GByte! If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices I received this year. wobo As we have the badram patches in upcoming 9.2, here is how to do it: (it was added in 2.4.22-0.7mdk) run memtest, choose the following: (c)onfiguration (6) Error Report Mode (2) BadRam Patterns (8) Restart Test When the test have run, and found some bad ram, it will show a line like this: badram=0x09c17d18,0xfffc this line that is reported is exactly what you need to add to your lilo append line, and the kernel will map that memory area as forbidden area that no program will use, not even the kernel... Thanks to the badram patch I didn't have to discard a 512MB module due to a 4kB bad area in that module (that's what the above badram=... example fixes) -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
I'm glad it might be usefull to someone (I have used sucessfuly it in the past). Have a look at (googling around will lead you here): http://badmem.sourceforge.net/docu/BadMEM-HOWTO.html It does not waste resources as what it does os just install itself as a resident kernel module (not swapable) into those specific locations, so it locks them but will never be used. The only thing to accomplish is to try to put the good module(s) first to guarantee that lilo, the loader, etc get executed properly just upto the module load. El lun, 06-10-2003 a las 19:42, Lawson, Jim escribió: I agree it really was great info. -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung? diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200: Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to 1GByte! If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices I received this year. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
Thomas Backlund schrieb am Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:09:48 +0300: As we have the badram patches in upcoming 9.2, here is how to do it: (it was added in 2.4.22-0.7mdk) run memtest, choose the following: (c)onfiguration (6) Error Report Mode (2) BadRam Patterns (8) Restart Test When the test have run, and found some bad ram, it will show a line like this: badram=0x09c17d18,0xfffc this line that is reported is exactly what you need to add to your lilo append line, and the kernel will map that memory area as forbidden area that no program will use, not even the kernel... Thanks to the badram patch I didn't have to discard a 512MB module due to a 4kB bad area in that module (that's what the above badram=... example fixes) Thanks, Thomas, this one will make it into the TipsTricks section of the upcoming website for German Mandrake users. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:35, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: diego schrieb am 06 Oct 2003 19:02:06 +0200: Hu... and if that's the case (a module is corrupted), you can have a look at badmem: it will lock bytes reported as wrong by memtest86 so you would be able to still spend 0$ and use much of that module ;-)) Now this IS a great advice! I have a module here in my desk that memtest reported has some bad bytes (only a few). If I could get that to work with locked bad bytes it would increase my desktop's memory up to 1GByte! If this works then this advice may be one of the most important advices I received this year. wobo Wobo, If you do this successfully care to put in the twiki how you did it? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Do these messages explain why my system hung?
James Sparenberg schrieb am Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:58:36 -0700: Wobo, If you do this successfully care to put in the twiki how you did it? James Will do but maybe not before end of month. Too busy now with 9.2 manuals on that very machine. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
