Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:54 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Can anyone suggest a way of getting a 9.1 kernel to build/install/function on a 9.2 install? You should be able to just grab the last 9.1 kernel and install it. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u59LaKr9sJYeTxgRAk5PAJ4vqFptldt1H4/pdBmIdQdjNAWkmACghl4S WBwa3XsE/P/sWGx4b3HZsWY= =ekpI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heh. APIC is enabled in bios because if I disable it, Mandrake 9.2, no matter what kernel I use, will not bootup. Instead, I get a blank black screen and that's all she wrote. I have tried APIC 1.1 and 1.4 versions or tables (the two options open to me in bios if I enable APIC). Regardless of this, no sound. As soon as I disable it, no bootup even if I use the noapic kernel parameter. If I leave APIC enabled in bios (remember, I HAVE to do this to bootup a mandrake 2.4.22 series kernel) but use the noapic switch. No change - still no sound. I have also tried the possible combinations of noapic and apci=off or the default 9.2 apci=ht. Doesn't matter, no sound and if APIC is disabled in bios, no bootup. This is an MSI KT333 Ultra mobo with Athlon XP2700+, VIA 8233 sound. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. [...] Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u6fDaKr9sJYeTxgRAsueAJ0UWmjoQBBlSxdAB8/DRAiVXwB5dgCeK1h3 8jorpi6/fuFTwyNTB6xHqsw= =pE6k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 08:50, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor ... 2.4.22-18mdk does sound for me on two i810 machines: i810_audio : Intel Corporation|ICH2 810 Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] i810_audio 25788 2 ac97_codec 15828 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 6340 0 [i810_audio] I had to work on it quite a bit though, switching back and forth from OSS and ALSA, the renicing stuff mentioned earlier. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... In my motorcycle mirror I think about the life I've led and how my soul's been aching all the holes where I have bled... My image spoke to me, yes to me and often said, 'You are the son of incestuous union!' -- Nimrod's Son from Surfer Rosa and Come On Pilgrim by The Pixies Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 11:50 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor But you also said that you were having issues with APIC. Since APIC handles IRQ interrupts for a lot of devices when it is enabled, it is possible that this is causing an interrupt conflict that is preventing sound from working. In 9.1, I initially turned APIC off in the BIOS when I did my install and had numerous problems with MB ethernet, USB ports, and mb sound because of inherent problems with installing Linux with conflicting interrupts. I thought that the install had gone well because of a lack of visible errors but then nothing ever worked right. Only be enabling APIC in the BIOS and using the noapic flag in lilo was I able to get an install going that actually worked with all of my devices. You may want to try enabling APIC in BIOS, reinstalling Linux using the noapic on the lilo load line for the install disk and then seeing if your results are better. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? No and no. What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Asus A7V600 (KT600, VIA 8237 chipset). The sound chip on the motherboard is from Analog Devices, Inc., AD-1980, AC97 codec, and Mandrake assigns the snd-via82xx alsa driver to it. This works very well for everything but aRts, which is sometimes a little 'scratchy' for system notification sounds (which I don't use anyhow). append= mem=nopentium devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht I have a Asus GeF4, but use the XFree86 'nv' driver, so I don't really need 'mem=nopentium' in the append. Chas A Edwards just finally convinced me it can't hurt ;) I don't really need to disable ACPI, but since I don't use it, and Mandrake always adds acpi=ht, I leave it in too. Same append I've used for a long time, many kernels. I'll probly try 2.4.23-1mdk that is on the mirrors today. FWIW, the onboard NIC is a 3C-940, and I read so many bad reports, problems with the drivers that are used for it (3c2000, sk98lin) I just disabled it in bios an use an old D-Link NIC I had (8139too). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. are you using the latest bios? would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but you may remove it after if you want...) I'll take a look if we need a workaround for the msi board and the apic/acpi stuff..., and if so I'll add it to my next kernel build that will be out by the end of this week... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll send the information you request later today. Unfortunately I am at work and thus not able to access my desktop system. Not the same thing but on a related note, I did run through the troubleshooting process outlined by harddrake (ie, lspci -v, etc) and nothing untoward appeared. Perhaps you will see something more subtle when I can present it. As for bios version...I do not recall when I updated the bios last. I'll check that as well. Thanks, praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed [...] are you using the latest bios? would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u8U4aKr9sJYeTxgRAtIaAKCEjvTsV/POahcDq/bLq6S3cUOx8gCgmpNJ YGAQqbwu3a4IUEF2vAAHF+k= =hTcL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you request. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: [...] would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but you may remove it after if you want...) - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/u9+HaKr9sJYeTxgRAv7zAJjCnGLhg0qftcFbK94/cHhe1A3OAJ9W4piq rZ19ej/txu/May0Mj4/2cQ== =I2Z4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you request. none. the dmidecode is a standalone program that will probe your bios/system dmi, and give out as much info as it can... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
