Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM *ever* being taught in the schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S. schools because it's taught using a religious ceremony and because the TM teachers simply can't help themselves, and have to try to suck every prospective new TMer deeper into the cult, and thus into cult thinking. If people feel like paying for TM and actually believe it does something good for them, I have no problems with that. Pushing it like a drug onto school kids...that's a whole other thing, one that I would fight on Constitutional grounds any day.
[FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
Tb, Some of your observation here is okay but wrong thinking once again. If TM is as LE is saying here by virtue of the observable research, then TM should certainly be taught to school aged kids as public policy. If not in the schools then after school across the street. It would be anti-scientific ignorance to back down on making transcending meditation available to kids to use as ingredient in modern educational design. It would be a horrible injustice to people to keep meditation as a skillset from students on some technicality grounds like you and that guy from South Carolina are drumming up. It is not just “whatever”. I feel your carping is spiritually sinful against people and that you and that neganaut guy from South Carolina are in a position of being anti-social parasites advocating against meditation the way you do. -Buck in the Dome Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Turquoiseb writes: Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM *ever* being taught in the schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S. schools because it's taught using a religious ceremony and because the TM teachers simply can't help themselves, and have to try to suck every prospective new TMer deeper into the cult, and thus into cult thinking. If people feel like paying for TM and actually believe it does something good for them, I have
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
turq and Lawson, it's amazing to me how Maharishi was even a visionary about aerobics! Some fitness experts no longer advocate long bouts of aerobic exercise as was done in the day when Jim Fixx, a regular jogger, died of a heart attack. It's now thought that such exercise actually strains the heart. Better to do short bursts of intense aerobics. Plus weight bearing and stretching. On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM *ever* being taught in the schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S. schools because it's taught using a religious ceremony and because the TM teachers simply can't help themselves, and have to try to suck every prospective new TMer deeper into the cult, and thus into cult thinking. If people feel like paying for TM and actually believe it does something good for them, I have no problems with that. Pushing it like a drug onto school kids...that's a whole other thing, one that I would fight on Constitutional grounds any day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
again, TM has absolutely NOTHING to do with chi gung AND chi gung is NOT the
same thing as falun gong - not by a long shot.
On Wed, 5/7/14, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking
Repentance Spiritually
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 1:14 AM
David Lynch and Bob Roth, brainwashers
extraordinaire...
OhKy...
Now for
the rest, you DO realize that the Chinese government frowns
on certain groups that incorporate qigong and has outlawed
several groups because they are a threat to the
state?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gonghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falon_Gong
MUM, on
the other hand, has formal academic relations with
universities in China, including student exchange
agreements, including Beijing Union
University.
http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelID=651046issearch=chinese
http://english.buu.edu.cn/col/col13109/index.html
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mjackson74@... wrote :
First of all and I
say these things with respect to you Lawson because although
you and I have traded words and ideas ever since the Cardio
Brief event, I sense that you are not a complete ass like
WillyTex and that you are seeking some good thing in life. I
don't know if you were kidding around when you said in
another post that you were OCD but if so I sympathize if you
are.
To begin with, Richard is an idiot who is either a person
who gets off on trying to upset folks through deliberately
acting like he misunderstands what they are saying or he has
serious information processing issues. I have not stopped
chi gung.
And the idea that to Chinese people TM is a form of chi gung
is nonsense unless the Chinese people are fanatic TM'ers
who have been brainwashed by the likes of David Lynch or Bob
Roth.
On Tue, 5/6/14, LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@...
wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great
oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 11:36 PM
The irony is that, from a Chinese perspective, TM
is a form of qi-qong. It's pretty much the generic
term
for mental spiritual practice, aka
meditation in English. Of course, it also
includes practices that involve movement, breathing
exercises,etc.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
punditster@... wrote :
On
5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
my
spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging
folks
who
are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and
desist
and stop raght naow!
So, you've quit the China chi-chong
practice? Go figure.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. He must have gotten some lung exercises when he would indulge in his juvenile rants when chewing someone out who displeased him. And he must have gotten some aerobic exercise when he was screwing all those babes, unless he made them get on top every time. On Wed, 5/7/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 9:28 AM From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years).Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM *ever* being taught in the schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S. schools because it's taught using a religious ceremony and because the TM teachers simply can't help themselves, and have to try to suck every prospective new TMer deeper into the cult, and thus into cult thinking. If people feel like
Re: [FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
What a birdbrain you are Doug. IF anyone in these debates is a parasite it is the TM people who always have their hands stuck out beggin for money so they won't have to have any kind of real job. On Wed, 5/7/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 11:35 AM Tb, Some of your observation here is okay but wrong thinking once again. If TM is as LE is saying here by virtue of the observable research, then TM should certainly be taught to school aged kids as public policy. If not in the schools then after school across the street. It would be anti-scientific ignorance to back down on making transcending meditation available to kids to use as ingredient in modern educational design. It would be a horrible injustice to people to keep meditation as a skillset from students on some technicality grounds like you and that guy from South Carolina are drumming up. It is not just “whatever”. I feel your carping is spiritually sinful against people and that you and that neganaut guy from South Carolina are in a position of being anti-social parasites advocating against meditation the way you do. -Buck in the Dome Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Turquoiseb writes: Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years).Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What
Re: [FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Tb, Some of your observation here is okay but wrong thinking once again. If TM is as LE is saying here by virtue of the observable research, then TM should certainly be taught to school aged kids as public policy. If not in the schools then after school across the street. It would be anti-scientific ignorance to back down on making transcending meditation available to kids to use as ingredient in modern educational design. It would be a horrible injustice to people to keep meditation as a skillset from students on some technicality grounds like you and that guy from South Carolina are drumming up. It is not just “whatever”. I feel your carping is spiritually sinful against people and that you and that neganaut guy from South Carolina are in a position of being anti-social parasites advocating against meditation the way you do. And I think you're an increasingly insane religious fanatic who can't be reasoned with, so why bother even trying? You're so far gone into religious insanity that you believe that disagreeing with you is spiritually sinful and that the U.S. Constitution is a technicality you don't have to worry about when trying to indoctrinate the youth of America into your ill-disguised Hindu Supremacy cult. Go bother someone else with your insanity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually turq and Lawson, it's amazing to me how Maharishi was even a visionary about aerobics! Some fitness experts no longer advocate long bouts of aerobic exercise as was done in the day when Jim Fixx, a regular jogger, died of a heart attack. It's now thought that such exercise actually strains the heart. Better to do short bursts of intense aerobics. Plus weight bearing and stretching. Don't be a gullible cultist, Share. Until he was forced to incorporate some kind of physical education into MIU and Maharishi Schools to keep them accredited, Maharishi taught that ALL exercise that increased your breath rate was bad for you. And he did this because of his completely superstitious Hindu beliefs, not any kind of visionary thinking. On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally find it entertaining. What you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM *ever* being taught in the schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S. schools
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turq, I think everybody's a gullible cultist about something! Best to just own up to it, know we might be wrong, and live fully anyway. Traveling to Maryland today for annual Mother's Day visit to family. Will participate as travel permits. Have fun everyone (-: On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:56 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually turq and Lawson, it's amazing to me how Maharishi was even a visionary about aerobics! Some fitness experts no longer advocate long bouts of aerobic exercise as was done in the day when Jim Fixx, a regular jogger, died of a heart attack. It's now thought that such exercise actually strains the heart. Better to do short bursts of intense aerobics. Plus weight bearing and stretching. Don't be a gullible cultist, Share. Until he was forced to incorporate some kind of physical education into MIU and Maharishi Schools to keep them accredited, Maharishi taught that ALL exercise that increased your breath rate was bad for you. And he did this because of his completely superstitious Hindu beliefs, not any kind of visionary thinking. On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually Whatever. Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). Whatever. But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. Whatever. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. Not true. Back in Squaw Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number of breaths during our lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running, aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it expended your allotted number of breaths sooner and caused you to die sooner. I'm serious. He actually TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally
[FairfieldLife] Averting the Danger of Climate Change
WASHINGTON — Jim Gandy is the chief meteorologist on WLTX in Columbia, S.C., and makes a point of incorporating links between bad weather and climate change into his daily broadcasts. “In Columbia, the only thing that separates us from hell in the summertime is a screen door,'’ he said in an interview. “And all of the climate models indicate that it’s going to get worse if we don’t do something about it.” On Tuesday, Mr. Gandy was among eight weather broadcasters invited to interview President Obama and spend the day at the White House. From Al Roker of the “Today” show to local weathermen and women from Chicago, Miami, Seattle and other cities, the handpicked guests were there, the administration hoped, to spread the word contained in a landmark new report, the National Climate Assessment, that the warming climate is causing sweeping change across the United States. Polls show that local television weathercasters are among the most trusted media figures, but there is a deep divide between those who accept the link between human activities and global warming and extreme weather and those who do not. A 2011 study by George Mason University found, for example, that just 18 percent of American television weather broadcasters believe the established science that human activities, specifically burning fossil fuels, contribute to global warming. The broadcasters at the White House on Tuesday not only accept the link, a number of them also prepare their climate-focused broadcasts with help from Climate Central, a New Jersey-based nonprofit group that creates graphics intended to convey the local impact of climate change for about 100 television stations across the country. Some Climate Central scientists were among those invited Tuesday to the White House. Also there was John Morales, who delivers weather forecasts on WTVJ in Miami and covers weather disasters for the Spanish-language Telemundo. “Recently we’ve had extreme weather events, like the strong rains in Pensacola and Tampa,” Mr. Morales said in an interview. “In January, Palm Beach County got 22 inches of rain in eight hours. That’s a once in a thousand-year event. I mention on my broadcasts that the propensity for climate change will increase with these events.” Although Mr. Obama has given several speeches about climate change, a Pew Research Center poll this year showed that Americans rank climate change 19th out of 20 in importance on a list of policy issues. The strategy of using local weathercasters to spread the word is in keeping with other White House efforts to use nontraditional media outlets to get policy messages out, said Jennifer Palmieri, the White House communications director. “Trusted messengers are hugely important,'’ Ms. Palmieri said. “No one thinks these meterologists have an agenda.” This week was not the first time a White House has tried to use local weathercasters to deliver a message on climate change. During the Clinton administration, Vice President Al Gore invited weathercasters to broadcast a climate change event from the White House South Lawn. But Paul Bledsoe, who was a top climate change communications official in the Clinton White House, did not recall it fondly. “It was a complete disaster, and it backfired,” Mr. Bledsoe said. Mr. Gore forced the weathercasters to watch his slideshow on global warming, he said, and then lectured them for failing to talk about climate change in their broadcasts. Mr. Bledsoe said that the current White House massaging of weathercaster may meet with more success — in part because the new report indicates that climate change is now having a more measurable impact on weather than it did in the 1990s. Mr. Gandy of WLTX in South Carolina, for one, does not need much convincing. Last year he reported on research from Duke University linking increased carbon content in the atmosphere to a stronger outbreak of poison ivy in the Columbia region. “That was a real eye-opener,” Mr. Gandy said, adding that the segment got a huge audience response. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/us/politics/using-weathercasters-to-deliver-a-climate-change-message.html?hpwrref=us
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The part that's difficult for me to understand, Lawson, is how you could possibly CARE so much about whether the technique of meditation you once learned wins and is proven best in scientific studies. Could it possibly be that you were brainwashed for years by being told that by MMY and his TM teachers that it *was* the best, and now feel as much of a compulsion to prove it as they did? And why do you need to believe that anyone who believes anything (if indeed Lawson believes what you think he believes) is brainwashed? Who brainwashed you into believing that anyone who believes anything is brainwashed? Is a cultist? You might want to put that in your pipe and smoke it. Try to imagine someone spending as much time as you spend promoting TM and proselytizing its supposed benefits for something they had once bought, like, say, a car. It would be pretty weird to see someone that evangelistic about a Ford, or a Chevy, seemingly driven to prove it the best and spending hours every week trying to do so, right? Lawson is far less a proselytizer than you are. Your soap box is bigger and higher than anyones when it comes to lecturing and berating and taking a holier-than-thou stance. You did notice that the only therapy/treatment to be rated A and I (thus the best) is something that Maharishi once decried as terrible and a waste of breath, and thus life, right? He used to pooh-pooh and discourage any kind of aerobic exercise until students at MIU started failing standardized fitness tests. Interesting that dynamic aerobic exercise kicks his technique's butt in this study. Not interesting at all. For a guy who purportedly spends his exciting days rehashing medical articles I would have thought you would know that exercise is about the best natural lowerer of BP there is. No surprise there. Domash seemed to realize the benefits of aerobics early on, he married a rather attractive instructor back in the 80's.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Certainly, wanting to be certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for 40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15 minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30 years). But... Think about it: if the effects of TM can be gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is special in some sense, people need to know that too. Consider the latest research coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly positive and are bound to show regression to the mean at least somewhat in any replications, but what if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is HUGE. While, objectively speaking, it would be nice if other practices had the same or better effect, MBSR is taught over a 2 month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction of the time. I always waned to be a TM teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the practice really is worth what the research suggests it is worth. If the practice isn't as worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the truth, period. And TM isn't meant to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has such benefits is very interesting. I didn't know that Maharishi pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard engage in as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting yourself. The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? L Gee Bawee, Lawson sounds so much more balanced and reasonable in this post than you did in what he is responding to. What could this mean? Maybe you aren't all you think you are, maybe you have no idea what kind of a narrow-minded, chest thumping hypocrite you appear to be. You are trying to put us all on on purpose, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The part that's difficult for me to understand, Lawson, is how you could possibly CARE so much about whether the technique of meditation you once learned wins and is proven best in scientific studies. Could it possibly be that you were brainwashed for years by being told that by MMY and his TM teachers that it *was* the best, and now feel as much of a compulsion to prove it as they did? Try to imagine someone spending as much time as you spend promoting TM and proselytizing its supposed benefits for something they had once bought, like, say, a car. It would be pretty weird to see someone that evangelistic about a Ford, or a Chevy, seemingly driven to prove it the best and spending hours every week trying to do so, right? You did notice that the only therapy/treatment to be rated A and I (thus the best) is something that Maharishi once decried as terrible and a waste of breath, and thus life, right? He used to pooh-pooh and discourage any kind of aerobic exercise until students at MIU started failing standardized fitness tests. Interesting that dynamic aerobic exercise kicks his technique's butt in this study.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Averting the Danger of Climate Change BEFORE it comes
research from Duke University linking increased carbon content in the atmosphere to a stronger outbreak of poison ivy in the Columbia region. Outbreaks of poison ivy, !Jeezus! that one really hits home for me. I am all in favor of remediation using all available approaches. Something needs to stop the hundred car unit-train loads of coal that roll through Fairfield to power-plants East of here. Those trains are bumper-to-bumper rolling through here all day and each night. That amount of carbon gets burned and put up in to the atmosphere everyday at the rate those trains run. Something should be done to stop those trains. -Buck mjackson74@... wrote : WASHINGTON — Jim Gandy is the chief meteorologist on WLTX in Columbia, S.C., and makes a point of incorporating links between bad weather and climate change into his daily broadcasts. “In Columbia, the only thing that separates us from hell in the summertime is a screen door,'’ he said in an interview. “And all of the climate models indicate that it’s going to get worse if we don’t do something about it.” On Tuesday, Mr. Gandy was among eight weather broadcasters invited to interview President Obama and spend the day at the White House. From Al Roker of the “Today” show to local weathermen and women from Chicago, Miami, Seattle and other cities, the handpicked guests were there, the administration hoped, to spread the word contained in a landmark new report, the National Climate Assessment, that the warming climate is causing sweeping change across the United States. Polls show that local television weathercasters are among the most trusted media figures, but there is a deep divide between those who accept the link between human activities and global warming and extreme weather and those who do not. A 2011 study by George Mason University found, for example, that just 18 percent of American television weather broadcasters believe the established science that human activities, specifically burning fossil fuels, contribute to global warming. The broadcasters at the White House on Tuesday not only accept the link, a number of them also prepare their climate-focused broadcasts with help from Climate Central, a New Jersey-based nonprofit group that creates graphics intended to convey the local impact of climate change for about 100 television stations across the country. Some Climate Central scientists were among those invited Tuesday to the White House. Also there was John Morales, who delivers weather forecasts on WTVJ in Miami and covers weather disasters for the Spanish-language Telemundo. “Recently we’ve had extreme weather events, like the strong rains in Pensacola and Tampa,” Mr. Morales said in an interview. “In January, Palm Beach County got 22 inches of rain in eight hours. That’s a once in a thousand-year event. I mention on my broadcasts that the propensity for climate change will increase with these events.” Although Mr. Obama has given several speeches about climate change, a Pew Research Center poll this year showed that Americans rank climate change 19th out of 20 in importance on a list of policy issues. The strategy of using local weathercasters to spread the word is in keeping with other White House efforts to use nontraditional media outlets to get policy messages out, said Jennifer Palmieri, the White House communications director. “Trusted messengers are hugely important,'’ Ms. Palmieri said. “No one thinks these meterologists have an agenda.” This week was not the first time a White House has tried to use local weathercasters to deliver a message on climate change. During the Clinton administration, Vice President Al Gore invited weathercasters to broadcast a climate change event from the White House South Lawn. But Paul Bledsoe, who was a top climate change communications official in the Clinton White House, did not recall it fondly. “It was a complete disaster, and it backfired,” Mr. Bledsoe said. Mr. Gore forced the weathercasters to watch his slideshow on global warming, he said, and then lectured them for failing to talk about climate change in their broadcasts. Mr. Bledsoe said that the current White House massaging of weathercaster may meet with more success — in part because the new report indicates that climate change is now having a more measurable impact on weather than it did in the 1990s. Mr. Gandy of WLTX in South Carolina, for one, does not need much convincing. Last year he reported on research from Duke University linking increased carbon content in the atmosphere to a stronger outbreak of poison ivy in the Columbia region. “That was a real eye-opener,” Mr. Gandy said, adding that the segment got a huge audience response. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/us/politics/using-weathercasters-to-deliver-a-climate-change-message.html?hpwrref=us
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Averting the Danger of Climate Change BEFORE it comes
I was surprised about the poison ivy too - what about the dust situation when and if Heartland Coop has their way with you Fairfieldians? On Wed, 5/7/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Averting the Danger of Climate Change BEFORE it comes To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 2:10 PM research from Duke University linking increased carbon content in the atmosphere to a stronger outbreak of poison ivy in the Columbia region. Outbreaks of poison ivy, !Jeezus! that one really hits home for me. I am all in favor of remediation using all available approaches. Something needs to stop the hundred car unit-train loads of coal that roll through Fairfield to power-plants East of here. Those trains are bumper-to-bumper rolling through here all day and each night. That amount of carbon gets burned and put up in to the atmosphere everyday at the rate those trains run. Something should be done to stop those trains.-Buck mjackson74@... wrote : WASHINGTON — Jim Gandy is the chief meteorologist on WLTX in Columbia, S.C., and makes a point of incorporating links between bad weather and climate change into his daily broadcasts. “In Columbia, the only thing that separates us from hell in the summertime is a screen door,'’ he said in an interview. “And all of the climate models indicate that it’s going to get worse if we don’t do something about it.” On Tuesday, Mr. Gandy was among eight weather broadcasters invited to interview President Obama and spend the day at the White House. From Al Roker of the “Today” show to local weathermen and women from Chicago, Miami, Seattle and other cities, the handpicked guests were there, the administration hoped, to spread the word contained in a landmark new report, the National Climate Assessment, that the warming climate is causing sweeping change across the United States. Polls show that local television weathercasters are among the most trusted media figures, but there is a deep divide between those who accept the link between human activities and global warming and extreme weather and those who do not. A 2011 study by George Mason University found, for example, that just 18 percent of American television weather broadcasters believe the established science that human activities, specifically burning fossil fuels, contribute to global warming. The broadcasters at the White House on Tuesday not only accept the link, a number of them also prepare their climate-focused broadcasts with help from Climate Central, a New Jersey-based nonprofit group that creates graphics intended to convey the local impact of climate change for about 100 television stations across the country. Some Climate Central scientists were among those invited Tuesday to the White House. Also there was John Morales, who delivers weather forecasts on WTVJ in Miami and covers weather disasters for the Spanish-language Telemundo. “Recently we’ve had extreme weather events, like the strong rains in Pensacola and Tampa,” Mr. Morales said in an interview. “In January, Palm Beach County got 22 inches of rain in eight hours. That’s a once in a thousand-year event. I mention on my broadcasts that the propensity for climate change will increase with these events.” Although Mr. Obama has given several speeches about climate change, a Pew Research Center poll this year showed that Americans rank climate change 19th out of 20 in importance on a list of policy issues. The strategy of using local weathercasters to spread the word is in keeping with other White House efforts to use nontraditional media outlets to get policy messages out, said Jennifer Palmieri, the White House communications director. “Trusted messengers are hugely important,'’ Ms. Palmieri said. “No one thinks these meterologists have an agenda.” This week was not the first time a White House has tried to use local weathercasters to deliver a message on climate change. During the Clinton administration, Vice President Al Gore invited weathercasters to broadcast a climate change event from the White House South Lawn. But Paul Bledsoe, who was a top climate change communications official in the Clinton White House, did not recall it fondly. “It was a complete disaster, and it backfired,” Mr. Bledsoe said. Mr. Gore forced the weathercasters to watch his slideshow on global warming, he said, and then lectured them for failing to talk about climate change in their broadcasts. Mr. Bledsoe said that the current White House massaging of weathercaster may meet with more success — in part because the new report indicates that climate change is now having a more measurable impact on weather than it did in the 1990s. Mr.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
Comments below... The flipside, of course, is why you care? I met you online what, 15-20 years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be now, even though you made clear that you no longer practiced it. What changed? Nothing changed, because I wasn't anti-TM then, and am not now. I am anti cult thinking and anti bullshit and anti fraud. To me, TM fits into all of those categories. Believing that someone is against you because he is not a fan of something you identify with is just paranoia and self-importance in my book. Lawson didn't say you were against HIM, he said you were against TM. Now who's paranoid and self-important? I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Bullshit. You still hang here because it gives you an excuse to attack people and show your contempt for them. That's what you live for.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/7/2014 3:34 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: The part that's difficult for me to understand, It's not complicated. You were mistaken twice yesterday, about the hierarchy in coding and the cause of most wars and genocides. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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On 5/7/2014 6:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: again, TM has absolutely NOTHING to do with chi gung AND chi gung is NOT the same thing as falun gong - not by a long shot. According to MMY, TM is meditation that provides the ideal opportunity for transcending to pure consciousness. Falon Gong is meditation that is based on the principle of chi, pure consciousness, which leads to enlightenment of the individual. Popular Chinese chi gung is based on the placement and positioning of the physical body - the aim and goal of chi gung is relaxation and improved health through the use of nostrums. Popular chi gung is supported by the Chinese communist government. It is unlawful to preach the philosophy of individual enlightenment in China. Apparently MJ is practicing the latter. It is unclear at this point if he is a communist or a right-winger bigot, but it sure looks like we've got a brain-problem situation on our hands. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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On 5/7/2014 6:39 AM, Share Long wrote: turq and Lawson, it's amazing to me how Maharishi was even a visionary about aerobics! */Now this is FUNNY/* - it looks like /yogic flying/ is one of the best and most effective /aerobics/ exercises. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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On 5/7/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: He must have gotten some lung exercises when he would indulge in his juvenile rants when chewing someone out who displeased him. Did this happen to you, or were you dreaming? And he must have gotten some aerobic exercise when he was screwing all those babes, unless he made them get on top every time. This is pure speculation, but it could have some truth to it. The problem with this theory is that MJ obviously wasn't there, except maybe in his dreams. MJ seems to be preocoupied with MMY's private sex life. Maybe that's just a result of his own failures. But, it does seem to border on the perverted though, to be so interested in the subject at such an early hour of the morning. Go figure. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Science Policy: A Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/7/2014 6:47 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: And I think you're an increasingly insane religious fanatic who can't be reasoned with, so why bother even trying? Now this is funny - a former 20-year cult member who still believes in levitation; a coder guy that won't discuss the hierarchy of coding languages; an religious fanatic who was mistaken about the cause of most wars and genocides, */thinks Buck can't be reasoned with/*. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/7/2014 6:53 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Don't be a gullible cultist, Share. Until he was forced to incorporate some kind of physical education into MIU and Maharishi Schools to keep them accredited, Maharishi taught that ALL exercise that increased your breath rate was bad for you. Now this is really funny - everyone knows that MMY encouraged everyone to practice the yoga asanas, and later the yogic flying. Apparently The Turq has never been inside a hot, sweaty yoga studio or participated in a single yogic flying contest. However, he does seem to walk his dog by a canal twice a day. Go figure. So, I wonder if Turq can sit in the full-lotus position, or even the half-lotus position, like Rama and MMY. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/7/2014 9:22 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: I still hang at FFL because I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so much of it here. Bullshit. You still hang here because it gives you an excuse to attack people and show your contempt for them. That's what you live for. This might be a good time to bring out the Garuda Analysis of Uncle Tantra Trashing Rama that was posted to alt.m.t. a few years ago. LoL! Speaking of cults, we still don't know why he won't talk about the neo-Nazi skinhead biker cult over there - he must see and talk to them at the cafe almost every day. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Averting the Danger of Climate Change BEFORE it comes
Corn dust? No, the corn dust is a different problem. That can be mitigated locally. Corn dust is a different thread. But the coal trains is an entirely different scale of lifestyle problem related to the danger of global climate change. This global climate change is a much deeper spiritual problem than the local corn dust problem. For everyone's welfare, something needs to stop the hundred car unit-train loads of coal that roll through Fairfield to power-plants East of here. Those trains are bumper-to-bumper rolling through here all day and each night. That amount of carbon gets burned and put up in to the atmosphere everyday at the rate those trains run. Something should be done to stop those trains. I am all in favor of remediation using all available approaches. -Buck research from Duke University linking increased carbon content in the atmosphere to a stronger outbreak of poison ivy in the Columbia region. Outbreaks of poison ivy, !Jeezus! that one really hits home for me. I am all in favor of remediation using all available approaches. mjackson74@... wrote : WASHINGTON — Jim Gandy is the chief meteorologist on WLTX in Columbia, S.C., and makes a point of incorporating links between bad weather and climate change into his daily broadcasts. “In Columbia, the only thing that separates us from hell in the summertime is a screen door,'’ he said in an interview. “And all of the climate models indicate that it’s going to get worse if we don’t do something about it.” On Tuesday, Mr. Gandy was among eight weather broadcasters invited to interview President Obama and spend the day at the White House. From Al Roker of the “Today” show to local weathermen and women from Chicago, Miami, Seattle and other cities, the handpicked guests were there, the administration hoped, to spread the word contained in a landmark new report, the National Climate Assessment, that the warming climate is causing sweeping change across the United States. Polls show that local television weathercasters are among the most trusted media figures, but there is a deep divide between those who accept the link between human activities and global warming and extreme weather and those who do not. A 2011 study by George Mason University found, for example, that just 18 percent of American television weather broadcasters believe the established science that human activities, specifically burning fossil fuels, contribute to global warming. The broadcasters at the White House on Tuesday not only accept the link, a number of them also prepare their climate-focused broadcasts with help from Climate Central, a New Jersey-based nonprofit group that creates graphics intended to convey the local impact of climate change for about 100 television stations across the country. Some Climate Central scientists were among those invited Tuesday to the White House. Also there was John Morales, who delivers weather forecasts on WTVJ in Miami and covers weather disasters for the Spanish-language Telemundo. “Recently we’ve had extreme weather events, like the strong rains in Pensacola and Tampa,” Mr. Morales said in an interview. “In January, Palm Beach County got 22 inches of rain in eight hours. That’s a once in a thousand-year event. I mention on my broadcasts that the propensity for climate change will increase with these events.” Although Mr. Obama has given several speeches about climate change, a Pew Research Center poll this year showed that Americans rank climate change 19th out of 20 in importance on a list of policy issues. The strategy of using local weathercasters to spread the word is in keeping with other White House efforts to use nontraditional media outlets to get policy messages out, said Jennifer Palmieri, the White House communications director. “Trusted messengers are hugely important,'’ Ms. Palmieri said. “No one thinks these meterologists have an agenda.” This week was not the first time a White House has tried to use local weathercasters to deliver a message on climate change. During the Clinton administration, Vice President Al Gore invited weathercasters to broadcast a climate change event from the White House South Lawn. But Paul Bledsoe, who was a top climate change communications official in the Clinton White House, did not recall it fondly. “It was a complete disaster, and it backfired,” Mr. Bledsoe said. Mr. Gore forced the weathercasters to watch his slideshow on global warming, he said, and then lectured them for failing to talk about climate change in their broadcasts. Mr. Bledsoe said that the current White House massaging of weathercaster may meet with more success — in part because the new report indicates that climate change is now having a more measurable impact on weather than it did in the 1990s. Mr. Gandy of WLTX in South Carolina, for one, does not need much convincing. Last year he
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sun...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve that. I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the interview. The thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he is interviewing God? I'm just a crazy SOB. Me too. I don’t prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real opportunity if properly prepared for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sundur@ mailto:steve.sundur@ ... Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Jesus Christ, Rick, are you going to propose marriage to the guy, or just interview him! Well, he and I are both married, not gay, and there’s a big age difference, so that would probably be hard to arrange. But hey, stranger things have happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’m going to read all of his books before even inviting him, and take notes as I go along, which I’ll share and discuss with you. Then I’ll carefully compose an invitation letter, which I’ll bounce off you also. So it may even be a year before the interview happens, if he agrees to one. But I would want it to be one that really did justice to the guy. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues@... Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Hey Rick, If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some insight into Harris' world. In most debates and interviews he has to spend most of this time sorting out the misunderstandings about his position caused by people quoting people misrepresenting his ideas rather than his actual points in his books. Richard even posted a attribution to his book under statements from other people misrepresenting his positions, and this is very common all over the internet. If you get a chance to interview him your ability to state his actual points will be a huge rapport builder. And this seems like just an obvious point for any interview but controversial guys like him are more prone to people misrepresenting their ideas to make them look bad so he is extra touchy about this. Just focusing on his actual points that can be challenged for good reasons will make your interview a breath of fresh air for him I am sure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sun...@yahoo.com Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve that. I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the interview. The thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he is interviewing God? I'm just a crazy SOB. Me too. I don’t prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real opportunity if properly prepared for. I, for one, will be looking forward to your interview. I agree with the delurking poster who described Harris as one of the most interesting minds on the planet at this point. It will be really, really interesting to see the two of you interact, and exchange views. I can only imagine that the experience will be a wonderful one for both of you, and for us, getting to share it via video.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
I've got an old 2wire router from my ATT DSL days i figure I can play around with by hooking up to my laptop and running Linux on stick with Apache server. It could server a web site with information and maybe instruction on how people could set up their own open site. Further ideas would to get one of the portable routers and wifi boosters and set up around down so one can split if the cops are sent to shut you down. BTW, at the moment there is NOTHING illegal about any of this. News today is that the FCC wants to regulate sites they deem too political like Drudge. Well, they will start there and then the progressive sites an then maybe Yahoo Groups. Stand up and fight any Internet regulation. Keep it open! On 05/06/2014 12:53 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: I'm not sure we should avoid it. The New Net would be better, safer, faster, and would be available to those of us who can find it within days of a shutdown of a free Internet by either the Guvmints or the Kleptocracies. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead The Internet is a highway and SHOULD BE in the commons. It should have NEVER been a gold mine for the greedy telecommunications companies. If they shut down our open access and regulate what we can get then those of us who know technology will start a alternate network even if it is illegal. So let's avoid that step. On 05/06/2014 11:56 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com mailto:raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: Back on topic: Call or email your Congress Critters to save Net Neutrality. IF you don't stand up RIGHT NOW and fight for a free and open internet, don't let me hear you complain when it's gone.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseBee Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sun...@yahoo.com mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve that. I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the interview. The thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he is interviewing God? I'm just a crazy SOB. Me too. I don’t prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real opportunity if properly prepared for. I, for one, will be looking forward to your interview. I agree with the delurking poster who described Harris as one of the most interesting minds on the planet at this point. It will be really, really interesting to see the two of you interact, and exchange views. I can only imagine that the experience will be a wonderful one for both of you, and for us, getting to share it via video. Thanks. How would you (and Curtis others) describe Harris in a word or a phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from what I’ve read so far, that characterization is very inadequate. My impression of him so far is that everything should stand the test of actual experience, but he’s open to the possibility that experience is not limited to the obvious and mundane. So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to the possibility that God can be experienced.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to the possibility that God can be experienced.
That would be a great question to begin the interview.
On Wed, 5/7/14, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
Harris
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 7:11 PM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TurquoiseBee
Sent: Wednesday, May
7, 2014 12:57 PM
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to
Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
Harris From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com From:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of steve.sundur@yahoo.comRick, I am glad the interviews are
gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve
that.
I chuckled to myself
though as I read your preparations for the interview. The
thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he
is interviewing God?
I'm just a crazy
SOB. Me too. I don’t
prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the
time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real
opportunity if properly prepared for.
I, for one, will be looking forward
to your interview. I agree with the delurking poster who
described Harris as one of the most interesting minds on the
planet at this point. It will be really, really interesting
to see the two of you interact, and exchange views. I can
only imagine that the experience will be a wonderful one for
both of you, and for us, getting to share it via video.
Thanks. How would
you (and Curtis others) describe Harris in a word or a
phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from
what I’ve read so far, that characterization is very
inadequate. My impression of him so far is that everything
should stand the test of actual experience, but he’s open
to the possibility that experience is not limited to the
obvious and mundane. So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to
the possibility that God can be
experienced.
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Thanks. How would you (and Curtis others) describe Harris in a word or a phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from what I’ve read so far, that characterization is very inadequate. My impression of him so far is that everything should stand the test of actual experience, but he’s open to the possibility that experience is not limited to the obvious and mundane. So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to the possibility that God can be experienced. C: Great question. As Richard mentioned, Sam doesn't like to be associated with all the baggage of assumptions the term atheist brings. He feels it is not a good description. But not because he is what you would call an agnostic. One huge misconceptions about atheist thought is that it includes the assertion that I know there is no god. I have had discussions here trying to establish this only to have it pop up again that I am making an assumption that there could not be any type of god. How could anyone know such an absolute thing? Certainly not someone trying to take a position of epistemological humility concerning the assumptions contained in theism. The difference between the atheist and the agnostic is that the atheist has looked at enough of the proofs of god's existence, or examined the reasons people have concluding this and found them unconvincing for a variety of reasons from philosophical to cultural. He has seen the various categories of how people construct their god beliefs and these are inclusive enough that it seems like an unlikely probability that man will come up with some new unknown way to make this claim that would be convincing. Agnostics are more ambivalent, but neither can rule the possibility of there being a god out. Atheism is not a positive belief, it is a lack of a belief which leads to Sam's perspective: “In fact, atheism is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a non-astrologer or a non-alchemist. We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.” ― Sam Harris http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/16593.Sam_Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/563115 I'll bet his description in his books is how he likes to think of himself. He is a philosopher and neuroscientist (his BA and PHD and the Co-counder and CEO of Project Reason, a nonprofit foundation devoted to spreading scientific knowledge and secular values in society. It will be interesting to see if he includes his long time meditating in his description of his upcoming book as one of his credentials. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseBee Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris From: Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve that. I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the interview. The thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he is interviewing God? I'm just a crazy SOB. Me too. I don’t prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real opportunity if properly prepared for. I, for one, will be looking forward to your interview. I agree with the delurking poster who described Harris as one of the most interesting minds on the planet at this point. It will be really, really interesting to see the two of you interact, and exchange views. I can only imagine that the experience will be a wonderful one for both of you, and for us, getting to share it via video. Thanks. How would you (and Curtis others) describe Harris in a word or a phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from what I’ve read so far, that characterization is very inadequate. My impression of him so far is that everything should stand the test of actual experience, but he’s open to the possibility that experience is not limited to the obvious and mundane. So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to the possibility that God can be experienced.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to the possibility that God can be experienced.
That would be a great question to begin the interview.
C: Exactly. I would like to hear him articulate how we go from ineffable
experience to matching them to traditional beliefs and what we can do instead.
The question for most of us who have meditated a lot is not whether or not you
can have an experience so overwhelming that you are inclined to use terms like
God to describe then, it is what does it really mean, and what can we really be
confident about concerning such experiences and or interpretations of them.
I don't know if I could have some of the experiences I had while in the mindset
again without it. Certain aspects of the experiences don't change but a lot do.
And for a guy like Sam who was never a theist it is different still I bet.
On Wed, 5/7/14, Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote:
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
Harris
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 7:11 PM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
TurquoiseBee
Sent: Wednesday, May
7, 2014 12:57 PM
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to
Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
HarrisFrom: Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... From:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@..., I am glad the
interviews are
gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve
that.
I chuckled to myself
though as I read your preparations for the interview. The
thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he
is interviewing God?
I'm just a crazy
SOB. Me too. I don’t
prepare for all interviews so thoroughly. Don’t have the
time. But Harris would be a challenge, and a real
opportunity if properly prepared for.
I, for one, will be looking forward
to your interview. I agree with the delurking poster who
described Harris as one of the most interesting minds on the
planet at this point. It will be really, really interesting
to see the two of you interact, and exchange views. I can
only imagine that the experience will be a wonderful one for
both of you, and for us, getting to share it via video.
Thanks. How would
you (and Curtis others) describe Harris in a word or a
phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from
what I’ve read so far, that characterization is very
inadequate. My impression of him so far is that everything
should stand the test of actual experience, but he’s open
to the possibility that experience is not limited to the
obvious and mundane. So maybe he’s an agnostic, open to
the possibility that God can be
experienced.
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[FairfieldLife] Dien Bien Phu
1954 “The Fall of Southeast Asia.” On 7 May 1954, after a 56-day siege, the French army surrendered Dien Bien Phu: Could Vietnam have been nuked in 1954? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Could Vietnam have been nuked in 1954? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Sixty years ago this week, French troops were defeated by the Vietnamese at Dien Bien Phu - after the US Secretary of State appeared to offer them two A-bombs. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dien Bien Phu
1954, Brahmananda Saraswati had then only recently dropped the body, and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would be coming out of the mountains towards the West to help all humanity. -Buck in the Dome, 2014 1954 “The Fall of Southeast Asia.” On 7 May 1954, after a 56-day siege, the French army surrendered Dien Bien Phu: Could Vietnam have been nuked in 1954? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Could Vietnam have been nuked in 1954? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Sixty years ago this week, French troops were defeated by the Vietnamese at Dien Bien Phu - after the US Secretary of State appeared to offer them two A-bombs. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27243803 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Leaky gut!
Celiac disease: When gluten is broken up into fragments in the gut, those fragments induce the release of zonulin, which tells the tight junctions to become more permeable http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458511/. This happens to everyone whose guts come into contact with those gluten fragments, but the effect is enhanced in people with celiac. Their gluten-induced leaky gut is way more leaky than it should be, and it stays leaky long after the gluten has been gone. In fact, a common test for celiac http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10902869 is the very same intestinal permeability assessment I just mentioned. Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/leaky-gut/#ixzz314Gv7AmP http://www.marksdailyapple.com/leaky-gut/#ixzz314Gv7AmP
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Perfection -ism
As a school or category of practice in mysticism here In the West, Perfectionism spiritually has to do with refining the subtle bodies of the human body-mind system. Similar to yogas illuminating, activating or clarifying the so called chakra centers and the rise of kundalini as some Eastern practices in methodology know. -Buck I am using the word perfection, knowing that the word perfection is very much doubted on scientific ground. Perfection, scientists are afraid of talking about. But I am using the word perfection on the basis of the simple practicality of perfection in the life of everyone. I am emphasizing and making clear what I mean by perfection. I'll explain this perfection possibility open to everyone by an example of the sap in the tree. The gardener waters the root, it supplies nourishment to the root, it supplies nourishment to the sap, it enlivens the sap, and the lively sap makes every expression of it brighter. Green becomes brighter, red flowers become brighter, everything becomes better and better if the sap is lively. Like the sap in the tree, Atma or consciousness has a place in the life of anyone. The physiology is made of reverberating structures of consciousness. Professor Nader's research in physiology has already explained that it is now possible for the total value of life to be enlivened within each individual through the practice of Transcendental Meditation and the Vedic sound reverberations, the Vedic texts recited. You can enliven the whole body, the whole physiology. There is huge philosophical evidence from the Vedic Literature, and practical evidence from the research into the physiology by all disciplines of modern science. It's a very great upsurge of Total Knowledge on the level of principle, and also on the level of the practicality of those principles. In modern science, in order to materialize a theory, a scientist is needed. Listen to this carefully. In modern science, for a theory to be materialized, a scientist needs to put the theory to practice. In the Vedic world, in Vedic knowledge, in Vedic science, the scientist himself is the embodiment of the theory, is the embodiment of the principles, because it is self-referral in its own quality. From within itself it is Total Knowledge, it is total power, it is total activity. This is Vedic speech, Vedic reverberations, Vedic sound. Vedic sounds themselves operate. And this has given a completely new approach to perfect health. Perfect health means perfection in every field for everyone on earth. This perfection is being declared today at this time of inaugurating the Fourth Year of Global Administration. It's very fortunate for the whole world, for all times in the future, that we have established a program. And fortunately with the help of their computer science, the communication level of perfection of today's life will take it to every home, to every individual. Everyone is invited. I am emphasizing today a new voice after these 50 years of teaching Transcendental Meditation in the world, a voice which can bring perfection to every individual.” From Maharishi's inaugural address on January 12, 2000.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 08-May-14 00:15:08 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/03/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/10/14 00:00:00 436 messages as of (UTC) 05/08/14 00:04:45 102 Richard J. Williams 44 Michael Jackson 37 dhamiltony2k5 32 LEnglish5 27 awoelflebater 25 steve.sundur 24 authfriend 24 Share Long 23 TurquoiseBee 17 Bhairitu 15 srijau 15 curtisdeltablues 11 jedi_spock 7 Rick Archer 5 raunchydog 5 jr_esq 5 anartaxius 3 cardemaister 3 John Carter 2 salyavin808 2 nablusoss1008 2 Pundit Sir 1 turquoiseb 1 s3raphita 1 j_alexander_stanley 1 emilymaenot 1 Mike Dixon 1 Duveyoung Posters: 28 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually [1 Attachment]
On 5/7/2014 3:09 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Shit, you and your TMSP can't even keep people from committing murder right there on campus - and you are gonna influence me by doing TMSP and one day I'm gonna wake up and agree with you??? You are living in a fantasy world - better use a filter mask when sniffing that ship dip... Now this is funny, you got to admit - guy puts down /yogic flying/ in favor of /flying kung fu/. LoL! Flying Kung Fu --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
On 5/7/2014 2:35 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: “In fact, atheism is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a non-astrologer or a non-alchemist. We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.” We have a Sanskrit word that describes non-dualists - Advaita. Ask Harris about that, Rick. The not-two. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Yogic Flying equals economic growth
In the 5 years that Cuzo has had large groups of Yogic Flyers it has become the fastest growing economy in the world. Cusco tuvo el crecimiento económico más alto del mundo en últimos cinco años - eleconomistaamerica.pe http://www.eleconomistaamerica.pe/economia-eAm-peru/noticias/5755039/05/14/Cusco-tuvo-el-crecimiento-economico-mas-alto-del-mundo-en-ultimos-cinco-anos-.html#.Kku8HBaUplZhg7x http://www.eleconomistaamerica.pe/economia-eAm-peru/noticias/5755039/05/14/Cusco-tuvo-el-crecimiento-economico-mas-alto-del-mundo-en-ultimos-cinco-anos-.html#.Kku8HBaUplZhg7x Cusco tuvo el crecimiento económico más alto del mun... http://www.eleconomistaamerica.pe/economia-eAm-peru/noticias/5755039/05/14/Cusco-tuvo-el-crecimiento-economico-mas-alto-del-mundo-en-ultimos-cinco-anos-.html#.Kku8HBaUplZhg7x En los últimos cinco años, ningún país o región del mundo ha crecido tanto como Cusco. Del 2008 al 2013, el ombligo del mundo acumuló una expansión de su... View on www.eleconomistaameri... http://www.eleconomistaamerica.pe/economia-eAm-peru/noticias/5755039/05/14/Cusco-tuvo-el-crecimiento-economico-mas-alto-del-mundo-en-ultimos-cinco-anos-.html#.Kku8HBaUplZhg7x Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying equals economic growth
Sri Jau, The article does not state that the increase was due to the yogic flyers. Also, it would be interesting to know how the entire country of Peru in terms of economic growth in comparison to the rest of the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yogic Flying equals economic growth
And you like most TM fanatics are not telling the whole story:
Speaking to El Comercio, IPE managing director Miguel Palomino Bonilla said “If
Cusco were an independent country, it would be the number one in economic
growth in the last five years [worldwide].”
Palomino Bonilla added that “Cusco’s growth is due, more than anything, to the
mining and hydrocarbons sectors, construction, and services...”
Mining and hydrocarbons sectors - equals massive environmental destruction and
loss of land for native populations, but the rich are getting richer and we all
know the wealthy were Marshy's favorite marks. Jai Guru ignorant ass attitudes
that glorify any little detail we can make into a triumph for TM.
In other news from around Latin America:
*Venezuelan security forces are accused of illegally detaining and abusing
opposition protesters in a report by Human Rights Watch (HRW).
The report says that in some cases troops used torture, including threats of
rape and execution.
More than 40 people have died since protests began in early February, with more
than 2,000 people arrested.
Protests began with students demanding action to tackle high crime rates,
inflation and basic food shortages.
*The chief of intelligence in the north-eastern Mexican state of Tamaulipas has
been killed.
Col Salvador Haro Munoz was shot dead along with his two bodyguards.
The intelligence chief and his guards were ambushed in their car by armed men
in the state capital, Ciudad Victoria.
*Honduran authorities are investigating the deaths of at least seven children
who may have been murdered after refusing to join criminal gangs.
In the latest case, police found the body of a seven-year-old boy who appeared
to have been tortured.
His 13-year-old brother was found dead a day before.
All the crimes took place over the last month in an area dominated by street
gangs in the industrial city of San Pedro Sula.
Honduras has one of the highest murder rates in the world.
Better tell those yogic flyers to fly a little bit higher - the increased
mining and hydrocarbon wealth of Peru isn't keeping Honduras from being one of
the best places to get murdered.
On Thu, 5/8/14, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Yogic Flying equals economic growth
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 8, 2
In the 5 years that Cuzo has had large groups of
Yogic Flyers it has become the fastest growing economy in
the world.
Cusco
tuvo el crecimiento económico más alto del mundo en
últimos cinco años - eleconomistaamerica.pe
Cusco
tuvo el crecimiento económico más alto del mun...
En
los últimos cinco años, ningún país o región del mundo
ha crecido tanto como Cusco. Del 2008 al 2013, el ombligo
del mundo acumuló una expansión de su...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Super Radiance
A change like this would have to come from a MahaRaja. Srijau@... posts: . ..rethink the policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity Om; this memo, did it come from anybody who could actually affect change in the policy or is this more just “talking” around “the problem”? Just wondering who this came from, -Buck in the Dome srijau@... posts: Now that the introduction of Maharishi brahminism is getting a thoughtful reboot to make the participants more appreciative of Maharishi's knowledge, we have a great opportunity to rethink policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Super Radiance
Of course practically, it would be good if folks should not confuse changing policy guidelines being the equal with a changing in the purity of the teaching. Policy guidelines facilitate a teaching but are not the purity of the teaching themselves. Effortless transcending is the purity. Dealing with some of the TM-Taliban-like TM traditionalists on policy is the sort of matter not unlike dealing with a Joe Stalin. Lists get made. Good people can end up in meditator 'Siberia'. The Prime Minister is clearly the most powerful person inside all of this. Anybody have the courage to talk with him about, “the Problem”? Anybody get through to Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam? A change like this would have to come from a MahaRaja. Srijau@... posts: . ..rethink the policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity Om; this memo, did it come from anybody who could actually affect change in the policy or is this more just “talking” around “the problem”? Just wondering who this came from, -Buck in the Dome srijau@... posts: Now that the introduction of Maharishi brahminism is getting a thoughtful reboot to make the participants more appreciative of Maharishi's knowledge, we have a great opportunity to rethink policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
Rick - I doubt that Harris would think or talk about experiencing God. My take on him is that he is interested in anything that can enhance our well being, and he feels that certain forms of meditation certainly qualify. But he is highly allergic to claims that reach beyond the evidence, and to labels like God that carry so much baggage that he sees as harmful. My guess is that he will seek to describe even the describable in naturalistic terms.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Super Radiance
Effortless transcending isn't a teaching. Effortless transcending can't be taught. It is what hopefully results from maintaining the purity of the teaching -that the student will absorb the strategy for setting up conditions for effortless transcending to occur by the time he or she finishes the 4-day TM course. And different people have different ideas about what is what. Rick, for example, in his interview with John Hagelin, told John that he has meditated without fail for many decades. On the other hand, Rick has said in Fairfield Life that he no longer uses TM mantras when he meditates. Is this an important distinction? Does it make a difference for practice in the Domes? Would John have agreed with Rick's statement had he known that Rick no longer uses TM mantras? Everyone interprets things differently. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Of course practically, it would be good if folks should not confuse changing policy guidelines being the equal with a changing in the purity of the teaching. Policy guidelines facilitate a teaching but are not the purity of the teaching themselves. Effortless transcending is the purity. Dealing with some of the TM-Taliban-like TM traditionalists on policy is the sort of matter not unlike dealing with a Joe Stalin. Lists get made. Good people can end up in meditator 'Siberia'. The Prime Minister is clearly the most powerful person inside all of this. Anybody have the courage to talk with him about, “the Problem”? Anybody get through to Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam? A change like this would have to come from a MahaRaja. Srijau@... posts: . ..rethink the policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity Om; this memo, did it come from anybody who could actually affect change in the policy or is this more just “talking” around “the problem”? Just wondering who this came from, -Buck in the Dome srijau@... posts: Now that the introduction of Maharishi brahminism is getting a thoughtful reboot to make the participants more appreciative of Maharishi's knowledge, we have a great opportunity to rethink policies that reduce super-radiance by banning people from the domes for competing with the movement or visiting other spiritual guru types when they are not wavering their adherence to core values concerning the TM and TM Sidhis purity.
