Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
I had a fire suppression system installed in my home. Relatively inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends. On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. *From:* Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
What's a fire suppression system? We have fire alarm.but that's no good when we're not at home, other than to get the FD here.. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ebony katt Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had a fire suppression system installed in my home. Relatively inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends. On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
Yes, I have tried, and it goes better than stuffing them into a carrier.it's like dropping a towel over them to catch them to go to the vet..then you tie the pillowcase. BTW - at our house, there's no way I could stuff all of them into pillowcases.I have no idea what I would do. And they would also all hide under sofas and beds.how do you get them out from under there in time? Our cats actually love sleeping in cages. After we've introduced a new cat and open the cage to let it join the others, before we have a chance to remove it, as many cats as possible squeeze into them...once I counted 8 cats and took a picture! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
I'm so glad to hear that so many in this group would go to all lengths for their four-legged friends! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my paranoia. At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can. We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage. And I want more. Need to replace my fire extinguishers too. We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking. I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top and turn the stove on. That was the day the knobs came off. If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen. I don't leave the room with the stove on. No extension cords. If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away. It doesn't matter if it makes sense. I'm OK with being irrational about fire. Already had one house fire and that was enough. --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
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My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something. My mother remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something. She believed that they must have been watching some kind of a short already... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my paranoia. At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can. We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage. And I want more. Need to replace my fire extinguishers too. We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking. I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top and turn the stove on. That was the day the knobs came off. If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen. I don't leave the room with the stove on. No extension cords. If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away. It doesn't matter if it makes sense. I'm OK with being irrational about fire. Already had one house fire and that was enough. --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'!
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OK, now I am paranoid too. Hadn't thought about unplugging eveything , especially when I leave.So it taes a few minutes, better than coming hometo a burned out house and my babies dead. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something. My mother remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something. She believed that they must have been watching some kind of a short already... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my paranoia. At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can. We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage. And I want more. Need to replace my fire extinguishers too. We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking. I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top and turn the stove on. That was the day the knobs came off. If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen. I don't leave the room with the stove on. No extension cords. If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away. It doesn't matter if it makes sense. I'm OK with being irrational about fire. Already had one house fire and that was enough. --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe.
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bout the cats sitting and watching something, it makes sense because animals can sense things bout to happen way better than we can. Lil Bit kept licking at my left cheek and would not leave me alone. Went to dermatologist and I had a Basil Cell Carcinoma. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something. My mother remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something. She believed that they must have been watching some kind of a short already... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my paranoia. At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can. We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage. And I want more. Need to replace my fire extinguishers too. We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking. I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top and turn the stove on. That was the day the knobs came off. If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen. I don't leave the room with the stove on. No extension cords. If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away. It doesn't matter if it makes sense. I'm OK with being irrational about fire. Already had one house fire and that was enough. --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic. These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn up in a nanosecond. To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure separate from the house. More than half of my rescued cats reside in the enclosure which has a large shed attached. I had to move because the City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and killed at the animal shelter. I moved to the next county where there are no cat limit laws but anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house. I also unplug most things that use electricity. This isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all. Sigh. Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle roofing. Horrors! I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those places. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Been there too. I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to my babies. God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines. I know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me. The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for another one? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will
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My Nitnoy sleeps in a carrier that I have in my room for days Harley won't leave the others alone. He goes in for a time out. until he slows down. It is better than yelling at him or spritzing him with water, the whole house would be sopping wet all the time. Maybe you could coax them out from their hiding places with a specil treat. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, I have tried, and it goes better than stuffing them into a carrier.it's like dropping a towel over them to catch them to go to the vet..then you tie the pillowcase. BTW - at our house, there's no way I could stuff all of them into pillowcases.I have no idea what I would do. And they would also all hide under sofas and beds.how do you get them out from under there in time? Our cats actually love sleeping in cages. After we've introduced a new cat and open the cage to let it join the others, before we have a chance to remove it, as many cats as possible squeeze into them...once I counted 8 cats and took a picture! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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YES, WHAT IS A FIRE SUPRESSION SYSTEM? fIRE Alarms are better than nothing, but do'thelp if you are ot home. Also, I live in a rural area and would have to wait for all the guys to get their from their home, work or in from the field when they are farming. Something that would supprss the fire would be great! GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: What's a fire suppression system? We have fire alarm.but that's no good when we're not at home, other than to get the FD here.. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ebony katt Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had a fire suppression system installed in my home. Relatively inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends. On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases? I have 15 cats in the mobile home. I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story. Good idea if you have less than 5 though. Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each cat if there's time. Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have stainless steel furniture. Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency. Now having a full blown panic attack. From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too! *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-) 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept trying. Another great idea is to use pillowcases in any emergency - that's always around! BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur
*There are varying degrees of heart murmurs in cats. They are measures in fractions of 6. For instance, a 2 out of 6, or 2/6, is not as serious a a 4/6. We had a cat who was diagnosed with a murmur, and we did not have the money to get further testing done on him at that time because he was fresh off the street, A stray that just followed me inside one day after I had fed him. lol He looked awful, mainly because he had been living as a stray with a bad flea allergy. What a fantastic cat he proved to be! Well, all was ell for about 6 months, then he started fainting (syncope), and we were told to get the echo done. We did, at a specialist here in San Diego, with the help of some awesome MySpace friends and a chip in, and it was learned then that he had cardiomyopathy with pulmonary edema and aortic stenosis. His lungs were so full of liquid and his heart had the all too common cardiomyopathy cats get. I was told by the specialty hospital vet that it often happens that these disorders, heart murmur and cardiomyopathy, go hand in hand (but not in every case). Zoh's heart murmur was a 4/6, which is significant. They put Zoh on 3 meds which he took for the rest of his life, every day. Furosemide (lasix) for the fluid in the lungs, Atenolol, a blood pressure med, and one more bp mes, I cannot remember the name of, but he got better. I was told cats with cardiomyopathy rarely live long, and Zoh lived 2 more years till he succumbed to a heart attack and died in my arms, in my room. I am hoping this info of my experience with heart murmurs might give you something to talk about to your vet. I would def ask what the meds are, what class, and why he is prescribing them, as well as get a definite diagnosis/prognosis in his professional opinion. It sounds like he did not give you enough info. And, I would say the echocardiogram is very important to get, even if it is a bit pricey and you might have to go a little distance to find a place to get it done. most vets do not have one in their office, although if your cat is breathing hard, ask for a chest xray, for starters. (Not as expensive, either. lol)Good luck. ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* -- Forwarded message -- From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:56:47 + Subject: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] fire decals -- animals inside
*Fire with me being not at home is one of my worst nightmares. I sent away for the free decal from ASPCA about animals inside. Here is the link: http://www.aspca.org/about-us/free-aspca-stuff/free-pet-safety-pack.aspx ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** **Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* -- Forwarded message -- From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:54:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
