Re: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and Charlie.

[Sandy]

I'm so sorry - thank you for taking care of your kitty cats until - well until 
Sandy W 

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From: "rosebudcocopuff"  
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:43:11 PM 
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.so handsomehe was the 5th of my babies to 
suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI INJECTIONS. with my 
JoeI've lost Clayton, and Apache and Charlie.. I'm sad, broken hearted 
and angry. I've been in rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been 
broken hearted and watched FELV take them one by onethank you all for your 
love and kindness 



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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

[kat]

Bob,

 

I agree with you - I have no tolerance for anyone that abuses anyone or animal smaller & weaker than themselves.  Even when some people have a warped sense of humor.  One of my (former) co-workers had shown me a cartoon book titled "101 uses for a dead cat" - it was dumb, sophmoric 'humor'.  I asked him if it would be just as 'funny' if it were "101 uses for a dead baby".  He looked slightly horrified & said "NO", and I pointed out that it is Not really Funny, is it...  Some people don't think.

 

I saw a cute plaque a while ago that said -

"Lord, Give me Patience... Because if You give me Strength, I'm gonna need Bail Money to go with it!!"
That about sums it up.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:44 AM
From: "ROBERT CHAPEL" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...


I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming
an animal... 

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[Felvtalk] Animal WELfare

[Jennifer Olson]

I agree Robert, it is a HUGE struggle to maintain a "good heart" towards
all people- even those that practically demand to be hated. Also afraid
that faced with any act of abuse- I too would have to face the law.
There are web petition links where I get added 'relief' by signing to find
& prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrating heinous
acts against innocents.
Am I allowed to pass along the names of these sites (although I'm certain
some in this chat are probably quite familiar already) ?
Jen
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news....

[Jennifer Olson]

So sorry for your loss- Rejoicing he had you to love him !
Jen

On May 27, 2017 10:12 AM, "rosebudcocopuff" 
wrote:

> My sweet, beautiful, Martinjust one yr. Of age lost his fight on
> Thursday, May 25th.   Rest now my baby boy. Always remembered, always
> loved.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news....

[dlgegg]

Sorry for you and Martin.  He is at peace now.  Grieve for a while and it will 
get better.

 rosebudcocopuff  wrote: 
> My sweet, beautiful, Martinjust one yr. Of age lost his fight on 
> Thursday, May 25th.   Rest now my baby boy. Always remembered, always 
> loved.   
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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

[dlgegg]

I agree completely.  I think that these people who do this also do so unto 
their fellow humans.  One thing they lack is the love of God.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 
I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling 
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them 
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a 
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real 
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming 
an animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous 
since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was 
simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that 
I can remember  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running 
a dog fighting ring..    Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to 
require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not 
melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about 
the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not 
contribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the 
sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so  
People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and 
caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar 
opposites can exist in the same  ( purportedly sentient) species boggles 
my mind.   It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you 
are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so 
little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me

>

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Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In...

[Sheri Burbridge]

As much as it hurts to lose them, the joy of having them is certainly worth
it!

On Sat, May 27, 2017, 12:44 AM Ardy Robertson  wrote:

> For me, it's kind of "Better to have loved and lost, than never to have
> loved at all."
> Ardy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:58 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In...
>
> People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady".  I gladly claim
> this title.
>
>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
> > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt
> like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind
> soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me.
> It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to
> others, especially my mom who couldn’t understand in the middle of all my
> sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself.
> >
> > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer.
> The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was
> obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation
> for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and
> asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a
> comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a
> while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was
> skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn’t deteriorating, but she had a
> whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running
> around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a
> piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus
> which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in
> her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and
> started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping
> alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced.
> >
> > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing
> my fingers for your new charge.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In...
> >
> > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that
> Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf
> or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside
> down  It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and
> though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a
> surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some
> meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which
> turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container...
> > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back...
> > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe
> feeding him...   Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again"
> and all I can say is  " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of
> helping"...  Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining
> to folks why she continues to do what she does...
> > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not
> going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a
> measure of literary license in quoting you...  Hope it's close : ) On
> Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle"
> > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He
> was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to
> us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him
> down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap
> cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet..  In the
> last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the
> consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few
> months ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and
> used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy
> alive for an extra nine months...  I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy
> living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping
> there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and
> to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months
> I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real
> surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't 

Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news....

[Sheri Burbridge]

I'm so very sorry to hear that. Thank you for showing him love while he was
here.

On Sat, May 27, 2017, 11:12 AM rosebudcocopuff 
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> My sweet, beautiful, Martinjust one yr. Of age lost his fight on
> Thursday, May 25th.   Rest now my baby boy. Always remembered, always
> loved.
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[rosebudcocopuff]

My sweet, beautiful, Martinjust one yr. Of age lost his fight on Thursday, 
May 25th.   Rest now my baby boy. Always remembered, always loved.   

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling 
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them 
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a 
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real 
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming 
an animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous 
since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was 
simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that 
I can remember  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running 
a dog fighting ring..    Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to 
require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not 
melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about 
the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not 
contribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the 
sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so  
People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and 
caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar 
opposites can exist in the same  ( purportedly sentient) species boggles 
my mind.   It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you 
are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so 
little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me






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